Rally for kernel source? - Verizon Droid Incredible 2

I have been thinking and have an idea, I was just wandering if this has been done already or what you guys think, we should all get together in a petition and state we want new kernel source and point put how important that is to is in this community and also influences our decisions on future purchases from a manufacturer. If we let em know we're serious and they could possibly lose future business over it maybe they will take action because I'm seriously contemplating never buying another HTC because of slowness of updates and lack of source. What do you guys think, would you sign?
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jeremytn86 said:
I have been thinking and have an idea, I was just wandering if this has been done already or what you guys think, we should all get together in a petition and state we want new kernel source and point put how important that is to is in this community and also influences our decisions on future purchases from a manufacturer. If we let em know we're serious and they could possibly lose future business over it maybe they will take action because I'm seriously contemplating never buying another HTC because of slowness of updates and lack of source. What do you guys think, would you sign?
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Sign the one that already exists!
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...t-petition-for-timely-kernel-source-releases/
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-htc-needs-timely-kernel-source-releases

dirkdigles said:
Sign the one that already exists!
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...t-petition-for-timely-kernel-source-releases/
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-htc-needs-timely-kernel-source-releases
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Thanks man, I figured there might be one but you know how stupid search is on the mobile app.
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Will sign on to this for sure.
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Why are some of the Inc dev's leaving XDA?

Ok. So i have been away from the form for a couple of weeks (family emergency) and I noticed that some of the dev's are packing up and going to different forums JoelZ9614, ihtfp69. What did I miss?
I'm kinda wondering that too tbh
devs should just ignore the crap and keep doing what they do.
Stuff like this makes me want to stay with CM even more. CM is my first love for custom ROMs and my favorite so far due to it's speed and features and open source model. Since they packed up quietly it just would make you speculate.
I like looking at the front page of Inc development to see what's new. We'll still be seeing new ROM on xda, just from fewer devs.
davwman said:
devs should just ignore the crap and keep doing what they do.
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They are doing what they do, just decided to do it elsewhere. A few things have happened on xda that ticked a lot of people off.
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im staying right here. doesnt matter who leaves, who stays. people need to grow the hell up and grow some thicker skin. this childish behavior HAS to stop for the good of the community. we will implode if all our devs leave. its like a joke to them. were not in third grade anymore guys. grow up, seriously......
...What exactly has happened on XDA that we're unaware of? Other than some of the people who use roms being totally immature, they will just follow to the other forums and spam that up. What's the point?
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...What exactly has happened on XDA that we're unaware of? Other than some of the people who use roms being totally immature, they will just follow to the other forums and spam that up. What's the point?
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some stupid infighting like a family has.
This is funny I just nutted up on someone today for being a crybaby deuche
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watt9493 said:
some stupid infighting like a family has.
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Figures. All good things must come to an end I suppose :/
TheWhiteBandito said:
Figures. All good things must come to an end I suppose :/
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hop[efully its just a phase. wtf guys. what has become of this....
watt9493 said:
hop[efully its just a phase. wtf guys. what has become of this....
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About as well said as it gets
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donnyp1 said:
About as well said as it gets
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thank you. this was the best phone i ever had. one cause of development and two cause of service. now im regretting it for more then one reason.
watt9493 said:
thank you. this was the best phone i ever had. one cause of development and two cause of service. now im regretting it for more then one reason.
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Dont, the phone is still awesone, and imo the 2-3 best devs still here.
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watt9493 said:
hop[efully its just a phase. wtf guys. what has become of this....
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It will blow over, the forums here haven't had a real blow up in awhile now, so it was just a matter of time really.
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I thought I would stick with this phone way past my contract because of the development but I might have to second guess that if the developers become too hard to locate . Like they say " There is a beginning to every end "
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Dont, the phone is still awesone, and imo the 2-3 best devs still here.
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RMarkwald said:
It will blow over, the forums here haven't had a real blow up in awhile now, so it was just a matter of time really.
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if i could get my hardware fixed id be okay, but i digress. and i hope it blows over, cause i need someone to learn from!
I liked the way xda had everything in one big forum.
Now theres going to be all these different forums for the same purpose.
*sigh
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Now its wildstang! [email protected]#$!
Change roms like I change underwear.
the children need to leave and problem would be solved. I cant believe the dinc forum has become this.

Not much of a development community yet.

I am new to Samsung, I came from an HTC phone. Over on the EVO3d there was tons of roms and themes second bootloader was unlocked. Was just wondering how it is on this side. I miss flashing things lol.
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It seems like that, but in reality the phone was out for a month almost before it was unlocked. The devs had plenty of time to play with the contents of the phone.
This phone has been out like a week.
Woaah buddy, gotta be careful with what you say here.
Anyways, I came from the HTC evo 4g community which has been around a lot longer than this one. But still, it took a month or two to get things going.
I mean the 3D just got root like a month ago. I think progress here is going swimmingly. Just give a few more weeks.
We probably wont have the sheer quantity u are used to, but i assure you we will have plenty of high quality roms and themes.
I wasn't being negative. Was just wondering what developers are on this phone and what kind Samsung has. What I mean by not much of community is not many roms yet. If anyone thought I meant disrespect I'm sorry.
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jprovan1 said:
I wasn't being negative. Was just wondering what developers are on this phone and what kind Samsung has. What I mean by not much of community is not many roms yet. If anyone thought I meant disrespect I'm sorry.
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Well cyanogen now works for Samsung so what does that tell you about who Samsung has? ;-) I think Samsung is trying to turn its rep around.
I also came from the evo 3d and am very happy with the switch. Sure the evo 3d has a lot of roms but a lot of them are the same ****.. and there aren't too many "real" devs on the evo 3d.. a majority of them are just cooks who ran the stock rom through a kitchen just adding tweaks. Hell empire who clams to be a dev didn't write a single line of code. Just mashed up other peoples work
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Cyanogen now works for Samsung?
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Cyanogen now works for Samsung?
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Yup.. where have you been? Lol it was all over the tech sites when they saw he changed his employer to samsung on his Facebook page
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graffixnyc said:
Well cyanogen now works for Samsung so what does that tell you about who Samsung has? ;-)
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It SHOULD be stressed that only the founder Steve Kondik was hired, NOT Cyanogen as a whole. The team continues on, business as usual. Just to clarify
Rome wasn't built in a day. It's only been a week. I would rather have the devs take their time and release something solid and better than a themed stock ROM but that takes time... especially if it's thoroughly tested. It seems like a new trend to release ROMs with a few hours of testing so little things pop up like an apk missing or a function force closes. I will try ptfdmedic's ROM when it releases because I know his work from using it on my Epic. I am sure the devs are in the lab building masterpieces as we speak.
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It SHOULD be stressed that only the founder Steve Kondik was hired, NOT Cyanogen as a whole. The team continues on, business as usual. Just to clarify
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And what's Steve's handle? Lol I always refer to the group as cyanogen mod and refer to him as just cyanogen.
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I do have to say this phone is amazing. I am so happy I made the switch from the E3D. Can't wait to see what this community can do.
Also isn't the cyanogen rom for the European galaxy S2?
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And what's Steve's handle? Lol I always refer to the group as cyanogen mod and refer to him as just cyanogen.
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True, true...just clarifying for those not familiar. Next thing ya know, people start sending their donations to Samsung instead of Cyanagen...lmao! Ugh...please no, we've "donated" enough already!
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True, true...just clarifying for those not familiar. Next thing ya know, people start sending their donations to Samsung instead of Cyanagen...lmao! Ugh...please no, we've "donated" enough already!
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Hahaha
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I want to see this ported already got the ok from the developer.
themikmik.com/showthread.php?7841-Theme-09-20-11-Blue-Glass-(V2.5.4)-for-Mik-2.5x
It'll take a bit but I'm certain we'll see increased activity soon.
First, based on comments, a good many probably just got their phones if they ordered from 3rd party vendors. Especially Let's Talk.
Secondly, the transition may take some getting used to. Going from OG Evo to 3D was primarily the same software. In fact, many probably worked with it with their OG Evo before they got the 3D. So now they have to "get to know" Touch Wiz, Odin, etc.
.....
Is there any info for someone new to oden
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jprovan1 said:
Is there any info for someone new to oden
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Don't mess with your partitions unless you are told to, lol.
Srsly.
daneurysm said:
Don't mess with your partitions unless you are told to, lol.
Srsly.
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Also dont use the pit unless told and dont check anything that your not told to... Or youll have a fancy paper weight
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Basically FOLLOW DIRECTIONS PERFECTLY, and everything will be fine.

Why no development for Ion

There is only one thread in the android development section for the ion. Whats stopping people from hacking this phone (other than the bootloader)
What's stopping you?
Encrator said:
There is only one thread in the android development section for the ion. Whats stopping people from hacking this phone (other than the bootloader)
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This has been answered before. What's stopping people from hacking this phone is that this phone is relatively new. It had just came out on the market for almost a month and the developers may have not been able to purchase the phone yet.
Bach415 said:
This has been answered before. What's stopping people from hacking this phone is that this phone is relatively new. It had just came out on the market for almost a month and the developers may have not been able to purchase the phone yet.
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Just to add to this, the bootloader is almost everything and Sony fixed Gingerbread so that it cannot be exploited using the old fashion means, which means either we develop new means or wait for ICS that we have a new way to exploit.
It may also be that many devs are working on the new more powerful phones, any Sony is really a small underground community. I promise when I get an ion I'll start developing.
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idiotzach15 said:
It may also be that many devs are working on the new more powerful phones, any Sony is really a small underground community. I promise when I get an ion I'll start developing.
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That would be terrific!
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Another reason is that everyone is waiting for ICS, why bother to develop for GB when ICS is coming in like 1-2 month.
You'll start seeing custom roms as soon as we get CyanogenMod support from Fxp
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idiotzach15 said:
You'll start seeing custom roms as soon as we get CyanogenMod support from Fxp
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How to install recovery ion ?
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If you want a phone that has loyal devs get a nexus, or an HTC phone. Not Sony.....
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No mystery guys, att just has it locked down pretty good. Waiting on the ICS update then should be good. There's plenty going on though if anyone cares to read a bit throughout this forum. Otherwise please be patient. eb
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earbrain said:
No mystery guys, att just has it locked down pretty good. Waiting on the ICS update then should be good. There's plenty going on though if anyone cares to read a bit throughout this forum. Otherwise please be patient. eb
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True True, Patience is a virtue
Thanks guys
Now we got ICS, so We will start Getting devs right?
NoobTW said:
Now we got ICS, so We will start Getting devs right?
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I called the dev allocation line, they said definitely maybe we may or may not get some dev support.
I hate being the troll here but why, why ask this same question that others have and further bloat this forum, when no one knows when a Rom is coming.
jeriku said:
I called the dev allocation line, they said definitely maybe we may or may not get some dev support.
I hate being the troll here but why, why ask this same question that others have and further bloat this forum, when no one knows when a Rom is coming.
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Well, just hope there will be some dev supports. That will be fine.
NoobTW said:
Well, just hope there will be some dev supports. That will be fine.
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We do have "some" dev support or we wouldn't have CWM, root and several mods.
Thank you all who have gotten us this far.

Can you sell a rom?

Can you sell an android fully customized operating system?
NightCalyster said:
Can you sell an android fully customized operating system?
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Not sure being that it's android based so it's like selling the Os so I guess no but u can sell themes for certain roms
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A rom yea just not here
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No. You can't sell open source software. You can, I suppose, charge people for your time working on it, or ask for donations. Or charge people to use your bandwidth, or the media storage to transfer the files. Maybe even some rigged shipping and handling.
But you can't put a price on the software itself. You don't own it no matter how much you tweak it.
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That was a seriously douche question. Come on man what do you think this community is about? An open source driven environment with the intent of users helping each other to better the Android platform.
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If some one customize. Rom to every detail u give then and sell it to u then its legal. U can some as paying someone to repair a computer or jailbreaking a ophone
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NightCalyster said:
Can you sell an android fully customized operating system?
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No you cannot sell Open Source but it appears you can ask for money in turn for an early release of a ROM you make before you give it to the public here on XDA Which is a bunch of Hokum
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That was a seriously douche question. Come on man what do you think this community is about? An open source driven environment with the intent of users helping each other to better the Android platform.
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Dude chill he didn't say he wanted to sell here and he didn't say he wanted to sell at all he could just be curious no need to bash him... That's honestly a good question, I would ask it myself but I already know the answer... This doesn't mean he is gonna be like "Ics Builds $. 99 per update" lol take it easy!
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don728871 said:
If some one customize. Rom to every detail u give then and sell it to u then its legal. U can some as paying someone to repair a computer or jailbreaking a ophone
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Lol, not really.
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Guys lets be honest here, he did not say he was going to sell one and he did not say he was not so we truly don't know his intentions but what we do know is that question is a little off to the left. Now with that being said and all the responses I see here what happen to the OP. He asked a question gets everyone all bent out of shape and never shows up again.
Either someone wants to sell him a rom or he wants to sell one - cant see any other reason for asking that particular question... jus my thoughts
VoiD_Dweller said:
No you cannot sell Open Source but it appears you can ask for money in turn for an early release of a ROM you make before you give it to the public here on XDA Which is a bunch of Hokum
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Yea seriously.
As far as selling roms goes, you can. BUT it's seriously frowned upon. Though it helps if you built the ROM from the ground up. When I had my Epic 4g, team Bonsai left the xda forums and stopped uploading their work for whoever wanted it. They instead made their own website/forum and sold it there. A lot of people didn't like this move but it made sense to me. Building a ROM from the ground up along with your own kernel is not easy at all. That takes a lot of work. They chose to lose all the xda baggage (noobs, douchebag mods, ect) and charge for their work. But this also meant that their supporters would always have timely updates and the best support. And they had a lot of supporters. The bonsai ROMs were badass.
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[Help] [WIP] Sense on S3

First of all this is a project im looking for any help to get our devices to boot sense please refrain for telling me it is not possible that i sould have gotten an htc phone if i wanted sense. I wanna live in the xda way and develop for our phones which have better internal specs then the htc phones for our carrier. Also i would like to see our phones run diffident flavors of android. Please don't tell me its not possible i have a ics rom port in alpha already i've gotten to the boot animation and it locks up i have both the logcat and rom to prove it. Im looking for help within my forum to get it running.
Logcat http://d-h.st/iZr
Tactic13 said:
First of all this is a project im looking for any help to get our devices to boot sense please refrain for telling me it is not possible that i sould have gotten an htc phone if i wanted sense. I wanna live in the xda way and develop for our phones which have better internal specs then the htc phones for our carrier. Also i would like to see our phones run diffident flavors of android. Please don't tell me its not possible i have a ics rom port in alpha already i've gotten to the boot animation and it locks up i have both the logcat and rom to prove it. Im looking for help within my forum to get it running.
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So, what exactly do you need?
Any help im a complete noob on how to develop im learning as i go along see if someone can kinda help me kinda understand the logcat im honestly surprised ive gotten to this point.
Have you look the sense4all projet? There is already a rom working for the internationnal GS3 (SO DON'T FLASH THIS ROM). Maybe you can try to port that one.
Also our phone have the same processor than the canadian HTC One X, maybe you can go in that direction.
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Have you look the sense4all projet? There is already a rom working for the internationnal GS3 (SO DON'T FLASH THIS ROM). Maybe you can try to port that one.
Also our phone have the same processor than the canadian HTC One X, maybe you can go in that direction.
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Actually that is what i was waiting for. Then i got impatient so i thought to try my luck im actually using the att one x as a base same proccesor
If youre a "complete noob" as you stated, might not be the best idea to start with a project like this...just saying
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Lol if your a noob your not going to be able to port anything. Even with help
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EclipzeRemix said:
Lol if your a noob your not going to be able to port anything. Even with help
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Cmon man. Everyone's gotta start somewhere. Let him try . Whoever decides to flash it should be smart enough to think before flashing. Nothing gets done by being pessimistic.
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EclipzeRemix said:
Lol if your a noob your not going to be able to port anything. Even with help
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This.
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This.
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At least hes trying to do something relevant not like you bashing some new devs...
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And we wonder why new devs don't get far.. Seriously people, I remember when this forum was a place to get help, not flamed =/ Dang I feel old, and im only 21, lol
Truth might hurt, people. Honesty is the best way harsh or not. He should start some where else with stuff that's easier.
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This should help http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1249973/decompiling-dex-into-java-sourcecode
http://code.google.com/p/dex2jar/
mt3g said:
Truth might hurt, people. Honesty is the best way harsh or not. He should start some where else with stuff that's easier.
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If he feels up for it it might be a good idea we cheer him up ? Who knows what can happen ?
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Lol if your a noob your not going to be able to port anything. Even with help
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I'm sure Thomas Edison got some good laughs when talking about the light bulb too. You don't know him or know what he's capable of; nor will you ever find out with this attitude. I envy his will to learn, and to take on a big challenge like this. I don't envy, I even despise attitudes like this that try to put people down who are attempting to do great things. To OP: even if you do fail at this, with the attitude you have, you will do great things.
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Towle said:
I'm sure Thomas Edison got some good laughs when talking about the light bulb too. You don't know him or know what he's capable of; nor will you ever find out with this attitude. I envy his will to learn, and to take on a big challenge like this. I don't envy, I even despise attitudes like this that try to put people down who are attempting to do great things. To OP: even if you do fail at this, with the attitude you have, you will do great things.
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I agree. Even though I'm having some troubles with my own personal ROMs builds I haven't given up. I don't care what people say.
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Lol if your a noob your not going to be able to port anything. Even with help
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...prideful much?
One has gotta start somewhere, I started with ports.
To OP, try porting AOSP/AOKP ROMs from a similar device (like the other SGS3 variants). Those are way easier to port and will give you a chance to learn the basics.
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Op, talk to this guy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35161290
He's on the international version, but he has a WIP and its coming along, albeit slowly..
Also, here's a good guide to help get u started...episode 27 specifically...good luck bro!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25663972
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In the same way guys... There's a learning curve. It could have been approached differently. But speaking from the position as he stated that he is completely new to this... If I was a sherpa and someone who had spent their life on a couch says they're interested in rock climbing, I'm not going to say, 'awesome, next week when your equipment arrives go to mount Everest and have fun!' There are ways to train and become better at things. Would suggestions have been better than simply stating that it'd not go well... Yes. And coming here to help where there are experienced devs is good hopefully their guidance will be enough to get him on the right track with this project and if not maybe he can start out smaller and build to this project.
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I mean lets be realistic has sense ever been ported completly stable to a non htc device before? Dont go swimming in deep waters if you dont know how to, start off shallow then work your way up.
Being real about the situation might seem harsh but it is what it is......but if he does have some sort of coding skills than by all means do whatever
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