USB mass storage in recovery with TWRP? - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

Ok, so this is a simple question. I'm hoping for a simple answer, though I have found a couple work-around methods/apps, I have yet to experience a real solution where speed of transfer and ease of use are both intact. Here are my observations: Low SD write/read speed when inserted to phone, regardless of stock/cm9/cm10 clean flashes/ factor wipes sd card formatting and partition alignment. However before you tell me I have a faulty SD card, the card performs above and beyond its class 10 rating in a simple usb to micro sd reader/writer that literally cost me 3 dollars. Secondly- why does the usb device id change from Rom to rom and from recovery to recovery, is it something overlooked by developers, or are is Samsung just messing up their driver files? I'm going to attach a series of images takin from my windows 7 pc that i just reinstalled from my purchased install disk on a brand new hard drive. The images show the device manager's response to first: usb mass storage in recovery mode in TWRP. (the correct version)(duh) and the second set is the device manager's response to the same exact phone with the same exact rom seconds later after rebooting the system from the recovery state it was just in. (the phone was never plugged into this computer/installation before this demonstration)
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B5j3eReUiQUBUmE2WUkyVzduMzA
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B5j3eReUiQUBazUzd1pMa3pQV3M
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B5j3eReUiQUBN2RiNXA0VEw5R2s
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B5j3eReUiQUBZ1N0cEN3ZmZuZm8
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B5j3eReUiQUBcnhOdWJUQ2hrUVk
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B5j3eReUiQUBZ0RCVzVySGRyR2s

Images Again
Going to re-post the images here, cause I don't have them on a host yet.

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microSD card corrupted...

I decided to replace the 512 MB card in my Cingular 8525 with a 2 GB card. When I put the 512 card in its adaptor, the PC read the directory, showed a FAT format, but would not copy/read/or otherwise manipulate any of the files. I plugged the card back into the 8525 and found that it couldn't even see it. Giving up on any kind of file recovery, I tried to reformat it in the PC, but then IT couldn't detect the card! After I played with it awhile, I finally got it to start the format process, but it always failed just before the "green line got to the end" and, after several attempts, it reported "disk cannot be formatted."
Is there any way I can save this card, or is it a (VERY small) boat anchor?
I've seen yesterday in the Sandisk site and somebody told me that they have some kind of software tool (file recover, unformat, etc.), that's very capable, unfortunately it is not free, there's a trial version (does not allow to save any files). Sofware's name is "Rescue Pro", if you can get yourself a copy you might give it a try.
Another thing about an SD (in my experience), I'm talking about a Verbatim 512MB SD, i borrow it to a friend, when he was giving it back, just cancelled all his things up, stopped the card reader (from XP), extracted the SD and it was dead, fortunately I had kept my proof of purchase and they (Verbatim) exchanged it with a new one (in europe the warranty is at least 2 year long), they asked me to send it to Ireland to check if it could be recovered and within three weeks (just because there was christmas in the middle) I got a new one back.
hope this helps
Try putting it in a Digital Camera with SD Slot (put in SD Adapter first;-))
Then format it via your Digital Camera
Or
Download VaioSoft Recovery Manager and try to format with that one
http://vaiosoft.com/products/recoverymanager.htm
Eelcol
that link is not working please post another link for that software
What PQI support suggests
I´ve had trouble with PQI miniSD cards, so I asked support from PQI on corrupted files, this is their answer in order to check if the card is damaged or not and includes several tips on using memory cards, it´s alittle bit long to read, but maybe it worths, so here it goes:
Some hints of using flash memory cards
1. Do NOT remove the memory card while it is operating, otherwise it may be
damaged.
2. Do NOT turn off the device, while the operation of writing /reading is
not completed.
3. When the battery power of system is low, do not write to the memory card to prevent loss of data.
4. Make sure the device (card reader/phone/camera/pda/camcorder) has finished reading/writing to the card before you take another shot/turn it off or the data will be corrupt/lost and the card will be damaged. You can tell by the device indicator light where it flashes when it is reading and writing to the card. Wait until the indicator light is off and stops flashing before you take another shot/turn the device off or remove the card/drive.
Before you continue, please make sure you have a reader that can read and write to 2GB card properly. DO NOT use in built-in reader on laptop and desktop, or old readers made 2 years or longer ago, because these readers can only use up to 1GB card. I recommend using it in external USB 2.0 reader that is made within 1 year ago.
If you do not have such reader, then connect the device (gps/camera/pda/camcorder) to the computer with USB cable and the card inserted and if works you should see new drive letters show up under My Computer.
Otherwise, if used in devices that do not support the 2GB card, the card will be damaged.
Please try the following troubleshooting guide first and see if it can solve the problem. Try one step at a time. If one works, then you can stop trying. You don't need to try all of them.
The following guide will erase all the data on the drive/card. So make sure you backup your data first before you try the steps below:
1. First, remove the card/drive from your computer.
Download the low level format tool below to your computer.
http://hddguru.com/download/software/HDDGURU-Low-Level-Format-Tool/LLFsetup.2.36.1181.exe
Install the program into your computer.
You should see a new icon called "Hard Disk Low Level Format Tool".
a. Insert the card/drive and run the program.
IMPORTANT!!! MAKE SURE YOU SELECT THE CORRECT DISK OR YOUR COMPUTER MAY NOT START LATER!!!
It should shows as BUS: USB. Select the BUS: USB. Also check the size and make sure.
If you don't see BUS: USB, that means the card is unreadable and need to be replaced. In this case, please STOP here and close the program and DO NOT continue below.
b. Then click Continue->Low Level Format->Format this Device.
c. Wait for a few minutes until it finish successfully with a message of asking you to partition and format it. (if you see formatting error, you can stop the formatting and the card needs to be replaced.)
d. Flash Card:
Put the card back to your device (camera/phone/pda/camcorder) and then use the format utility in the device to format the card.
Please let me know your test results. Thanks.
Reference: Program homepage
http://hddguru.com/content/en/software/2006.04.12-HDD-Low-Level-Format-Tool/
2. Please go to the site below:
http://www.sdcard.org/Downloads.aspx
Please try to download the software sdfv2000.exe (for windows only) and the manual for your reference.
Install the sdfv2000.exe in your computer, then insert the card into the card reader (if you do not have reader, you can try to connect your device to the computer with USB cable) and then run it:
a. Check the drive letter and also the size and make sure it is the correct card.
b. Click Option:
Format Type: Full Erase ON
Format Size Adjustment: ON
c. Click OK, then click Format. Wait until it finish.
d. You will be prompted to remove the card after it finish. Then go ahead and insert it in your (camera/pda/camcorder etc) and see.
16. T-mobile MDA (cannot format 2GB mini SD card)
Please install the software below to your phone (you can download the free trial):
http://www.pdatopsoft.com/PocketPC/StorageTools---Analyze,-Defragment,-Verify,-Repair-and-Format
Then use the Storage Tools software above to format the card and see.
does this method also apply on mini sd and mmc rs dv cards?????
Actually this was given for miniSD´s
Awais said:
does this method also apply on mini sd and mmc rs dv cards?????
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I assume that this applies to all types of SD cards, I don´t know about the others.
Awais said:
that link is not working please post another link for that software
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http://vaiosoft.com
goto recovery manager
Eelco
luiggi said:
I assume that this applies to all types of SD cards, I don´t know about the others.
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is there any technical differnece between mmc and sd cards???/
cuz we can also use mmc or rs dv cards in htc devices but sd card is not useable for nokia and other mmc supported sets
Thanks for all of the input! I tried formating it with my camera with no success, then took the easy way out: I took it back where I bought it and got it replaced.
I'm filing this information away for next time, though! Thanks again.
Awais said:
is there any technical differnece between mmc and sd cards???/
cuz we can also use mmc or rs dv cards in htc devices but sd card is not useable for nokia and other mmc supported sets
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SD cards where made to improve the lack of speed of MMC cards, also they include the writing protection/lock, it is the small switch you see in one side of the SD.
Also, SD cards are slightly different from MMCs phisically, SDs are thicker than MMCs (that's why you cannot put them in a Nokia phone), the electrical specs should by backwards compatible (aside from phisycal differences).
Recently some updatings/improvements have been done to MMC specs, they claim to be the fastest memory card technology available, there are MMC plus, etc.
I know all these things that I read recently (I just can't remember where).
hope this info can be used, and one last thing is that information on this subject can be found easily on the net, it's juest a matter of look for it, personally I like a lot an electronics web site: www.epanorama.net
thanks for the useful info and that link too
hmm today i got a miniSD topram, 2gb and it worked fine it was fat format i believe so i went to the winxp format utility and formated with fat32 16k everything seemed to work fine then i put it in the pda phone and nothing it did not see it, so then i put it back in the PC to format back to fat and nothing it does not see the card now at all
what happend i have been trying a million apps to some how force a format but none have worked, windows pretty much hangs while trying to read the card and at end says there is no media there, so do other apps
Low level format
losborn said:
I'm filing this information away for next time, though! Thanks again.
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Low level format tool once done good job for me
http://www.killdisk.com/
I would proberbly say its fubarred, but you could try using software like SCAN DISK and carios other things.
Memory card fixes
Guys
We've seen this issue quite a bit lately.. Memory card simply locks up Windows when inserted.. It seems to be related to a flakey FAT table on the card. Formatting does nothing... Disk manager can't deal with it either..
The solution we found that worked was to use Paragon Partition Tools to remove the partition table on the card.. Recreate it.. then reformat..
Unless the card is physically cactus, it works every time..
Good luck!
Andy
www.pressdigital.com.au
Press Digital Support Team
???
any link for a free-ware partitioning tool !!!
wanna know more about erasing and recreating partition table on micro-sd cards
http://hddguru.com/download/software....2.36.1181.exe
Thank you, Luigi.
This work perfectly. My microSD 2GB was formated a 1GB and with this program now is all OK. I have microSD a 2GB again.
memory card recovery
This tool can help you to recover your files from damaged media.
www softorbits com/flash-drive-recovery
This device cannot be accessed because it is smaller than 65535 sectors.
:crying: It says "This device cannot be accessed because it is smaller than 65535 sectors" when I tried to low level format using LLFT.
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losborn said:
Thanks for all of the input! I tried formating it with my camera with no success, then took the easy way out: I took it back where I bought it and got it replaced.
I'm filing this information away for next time, though! Thanks again.
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Good for you. But I'm still getting headache as I can't contact the manufacturer.
I had formatted the micro SD card in ext4 format for using with app2SD. I had it in 2 partitions.
And then after a while, the card stopped functioning (with so little and useless 30MB storage).
I had tried things like recovery, formatting, partition recovery.
Nothing can return it to original state. I just want it to be blank. It's ok I lost all the data.

[Q] USB and SD not recognized

Need a way to access internal memory so I can fix my usb or sd card see following for information:
Short Version:
USB wont work and SD card wont work so I cannot use the following method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695243
Long Version:
So right after i had backed up my rom i did a wipe, then the phone stopped recognizing my sd card. I took it to Sprint they couldn't figure it out, so i was stuck in Bootloader. yesterday i did a hard reset and wa-la i can now use my phone ...sorta. It will turn on I can access everything, but it freezes up and shuts off after 40 seconds (i got it to stay for 2mins one time) also it still will not recognize my sd card. I tried other cards still no luck and I know my card works because I can use it in my laptop. So i did a little searching on xda and found a fix, but i cant do the fix unless i plug my phone into the laptop and run a cmd prompt well now here is the other problem my computer sees the phone (listed as My HTC) but my phone wont recognize that it is plugged in. It will charge when it is shut off thats about it. Well back to xda and there is a fix for the usb, but.... I need my phone to recognize my sd card because the files will be on it. In short to fix my sd card i need usb and to fix the usb i need my card I am stuck in a horrible loop, so what I need is a way to access my phones internal memory so I can install the usb files on it so that i can fix usb then my card, then recover my rom.
Thanks to wall who help or at least try
Im not totally sure if this will help, but i know you can mount the sd card as usb storage in Amon_Ra and also in settings under "storage" or so i believe there are settings for mounting and unmounting the Micro Sdcard check those, it should be mounted in the settings for your phone to see it. hope i helped
I just had this exact same problem. Nandroid, wipe, flash, then stuck in bootloader spent two days trying fixes, unroot, root, and,had to turn it in. Luckily best buy has an awesome warranty.
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thanks all... ended up replacing my phone, but if anyone ever finds a way to fix it let me know! Thanks again
I was really hoping that this thread would not dead-end. I've got what sounds like a similar issue...in addition to not being able to reformat my SD card (in Windows or in Android) due to it being detected as write-protected, but it's not write protected.
I'm really anxious to try the aforementioned thread to fix USB and SD, but I can't detect, mount, or format my SD card. Am I screwed?
*EDIT* Fixed the write-protection issue...working on the rest now.
*EDIT* Still can't format card through Android. Is there an ADB or fastboot command to format the SD card?

[Q] Bootable Micro SD card

I have a Samsung Epic 4g running the latest Cyanogenmod 7 nightly. What I'm trying to do is this: From Clockworkmod, mount USB storage, and from that, connect the phone to a computer and use the SD card as a bootable USB device.
I'm using SARDU to make a multiboot image for Linux, Gparted, etc. but to no avail. The phone is for some reason, listed as a FDD instead of a bootable USB. When booting from the phone anyways, it merely displays a copyright screen of Syslinux instead of loading the SARDU menu.
I've managed to format the SD card in such a way that it is listed as a USB device in my computer's BIOS, but then the SD card isn't recognized by android and is considered "damaged".
I know this has been asked a few times before, but nothing is quite like what I'm trying to do, and none of them have an exact method on how to do this.
Any and all help would be appreciated.
112 views and no suggestions?

[Q] External SD Card Won't Mount in Custom Rom (Beanstalk)

I'm having the worst time finding a solution to this, and it's backwards from everyone else's problems that I'm finding.
For the first time, I decided to Root/Flash my phone to a custom ROM via CWM and Beanstalk. Everything went smooth. But now while in the Android OS I am completely unable to mount my 64GB External SD which was fully functional in Stock.
To clarify (and what's backwards from everyone else's problems apparently) is that in CWM I CAN see/mount the External drive and browse files on it. It's only once Android boots that the External SD fails to mount. I've Reset/Reloaded the ROM, as well as CWM, and the result is always the same. I've even tried a different version of CWM (Philz Touch: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38298833). Works great, but the Recovery loader isn't the problem...it's always within Android itself that it vanishes.
I've also, via CWM, wiped every cache there was. The two things I have not done are formatting the Internal and External SD's.
The only solutions I have found in the forums/online are people who have reformatted their external SD's to Fat32 instead of extFAT, and I'm willing to give it a shot, but thought I'd check here first.
I scoured through all 110+ pages of the Beanstalk ROM forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38298833) and no one apparently is having this problem, so I'm not about to blame the dev.
Any thoughts/help is greatly appreciated!
fat32 is the way to go; all problems solved..
wase4711 said:
fat32 is the way to go; all problems solved..
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This^^^^^^^^^^......
Format the card ....to FAT32....
And wase deserves a thanks...g
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:highfive:
Does the FAT32 let you keep files bigger than 4gb? I have a 64gb, and use most of it for HD movies for my kids. (Brave, Nemo, etc.)
nope it doesnt...but most of us just use a program that takes those files and converts them to a smaller size type...handbrake is what I use, and it takes a 8 gig mkv file and knocks it down to under a gig...much smarter idea...and, on a 5 inch screen, you cant tell any difference in quality..
fix
I could swear I saw an EXFAT fix for Beanstalk a few days ago, somewhere on here....run a search. I will check my history.
some kernels allow for exfat use, but, not all of them do, so why bother with it; just go fat 32, make those movies smaller, and this problem is no longer a problem, no matter what rom/kernel you decide to use..
wase4711 said:
some kernels allow for exfat use, but, not all of them do, so why bother with it; just go fat 32, make those movies smaller, and this problem is no longer a problem, no matter what rom/kernel you decide to use..
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I guess I'm annoyed that if have to move everything to my computer... Then back to the SD to format it. Its the only thing keeping me from dual booting.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 4
well, you should back up the contents of your sd card to your computer anyways, so this is a good time to do that..
Thanks for the feedback - greatly appreciated.
I formatted my SD card to FAT32, but did it in recovery mode on the phone, turning on "Mount USB" mode - and did it through the phone via my PC and a USB cable.
After I did this, now CWM/Touch can no longer mount the card, and Beanstalk ROM still can't see it. However, I'm getting a different message now - something about the SD card "being empty". If I try to formatted it via Beanstalk while booted into android, nothing happens.
After some reading, people have advised using an SD Reader - and formatting the SD card via the Reader connected to a PC. I don't have a reader yet (I'll grab one shortly) but thought I'd ask first - whether the SD card is formatted FAT32 while in the phone, or done via an SD Reader, does it matter? Is there a real difference in how the SD card is formatted between these two scenario's?
I saw this on Phiz Touch CWM recovery loader: "All external sdcard issues: first format in PC with primary partition, tons of people are formatting as logical and come cry". So what I'm assuming is that somehow the SD Reader via the PC creates a "Primary" partition whereas if it's formatted via the phone and a USB cable, maybe it formats it as a Logical?
Thanks again for the help - once I get this all sorted out I'll be sure to post back with my solution for anyone else struggling.
format it in your computer for fat 32, then throw it in the phone.
when you bought it, it should have had a larger sd "holder" that you can use to format it on your computer, assuming you have one, or a sd card reader is built into your computer.
Sometimes I have had issues formatting my cards in my phone; I have used my camera, and my computer successfully, but the phone formatting can be iffy, so do it on a pc, and you wont have any issues. Format it as fat32, and use the default allocation size, if that comes up in the formatting dialog on your pc
You're the man - I feel like I at least owe you a coke for your timely responses.
Oddly enough, I think I cleaned house a while back and chucked every single adapter card I had - trust me...I just went through every box/bin/desk I owned trying to find one. So yeah, learned myself a lesson right there.
I do have a camera - maybe I'll give that a shot in the meantime and see if that does any better.
I wanted to post a follow-up with my status.
I grabbed a USB card reader (the kind you can put Micro SD's or standard SD's into, then plug them into the PC like a USB stick), used one of the recommended FAT32 formatting programs, and viola! Everything is fixed and the SD is working as designed.
Big thanks to wase4711 for the insight and help! I'm totally excited about trying other ROM's, now that I have that issue ironed out.
Kudos!
glad to see it worked for u..

[Q] Problems using Galaxy Tab S as USB device

I have purchased a week ago a Galaxy Tab S 8.4 (T705M) and I am using a 64 Gb MicroSD in it.
I upgraded to 5.02 (OTA) since June/26.
I have problems with external MicroSD when the tablet is connected via USB to my PC (Windows 7, Home, 64 bits).
Whe trying to copy files from the PC to the tablet external MicroSD, the operation is very, very slow and some files (existing previously in the external MicroSD) disappear. Very annoying.
I had same problem with another Tab S I purchased by January and I returned it to the vendor. In that case, the tablet was on Kit Kat (as it is sold).
Yesterday, after the Tablet erases several directories from the SD, I turned off the tablet and extracted the SD. I tried to fix the SD directly connected to the PC but the SD appears as "read only".
After trying for a while I gave up and I formatted the SD (extFAT) and copy the info from a backup I did before putting the SD in the teeth (fangs?) of the tablet (yeah, I guessed the tablet would be as a wild beast when managing SD's). The "re"formatted microSD behaved as a charm, all info copied without any problem (but it took almost 3 hours copying 50 Gb at about 7 Mb/second).
On the other hand, I used this same SD card in my old Note 8 (Jellybean) for more than a year without problems.
Now, I guess the only way I have is extracting the SD card and edit its content only connecting it directly to a PC.
What can I do to calm down the beast and edit external MicroSD connecting the tablet via USB without losing information and with a reasonable speed ?
Any suggestion ?
Root your device and apply the sd card fix. Also 7mb/s seems about normal for a cheap micro sd card.
I have not had any problems with files disappearing, have you confirmed your 64gb microsd is not a fake.
I have a Samsung 64gb microsd, and i got around 9MB/s copying a movie from my notebook to my T800 10.5"
John.
Thanks for the comments.
My card is Verbatim Class 10 and it worked perfectly in my old Note 8. It works really as stated for a class 10 SD (10 MB/s at peaks as stated in https://www.sdcard.org/developers/overview/speed_class/) but, as with any device, speed depends on several factors (file sizes, buffer in the source PC, etc) and the average obtained is really about 7 MB/s or so.
I guess the problem is related with something in Lollipop (but Tinderbox says has no problems) or, more probable, driver in the PC.
Tinderbox, are you using Kies to transfer ? are you transferring from a PC or a Mac ? which class is your SD ? have you enabled "USB debugging" ?
I purchased an 8 GB SD in order to make some tests. This SD is Class 4 and formatted FAT32 but anyway I will test it to learn about this riddle....
In the mean time, any suggestions are welcome and I repeat, thanks for the answers.
UPDATE:
Sandisk SD (8 GB, FAT32) worked perfectly, no erases, good speed (Class 4, speed tablet connected via USB about 4 MB/s).
Next test planned: reformat Verbatim 64 GB using FAT32.
I am on kitkat 4.4.2 and i dont use kies, I just drag and drop my files from my notebook to the tablet, I did not need to enable usb debugging, my 64gb is full of video, I copy them virtually every day and have had not problems.
I think i read about another 8.4" owner having problems with his microsd card i will have a look for it.
I have only ever bought Samsung memory cards for years and i have never had a problem.
Have you tried re-installing the device driver, you can do it from the kies menu.
John.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
I am on kitkat 4.4.2 and i dont use kies, I just drag and drop my files from my notebook to the tablet, I did not need to enable usb debugging, my 64gb is full of video, I copy them virtually every day and have had not problems.
I think i read about another 8.4" owner having problems with his microsd card i will have a look for it.
I have only ever bought Samsung memory cards for years and i have never had a problem.
Have you tried re-installing the device driver, you can do it from the kies menu.
John.
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Thanks for your complete answer(s).
I have made several (a lot) of tests without any success. In all cases SD can not be written from a PC (when connected via USB) and erasing files using android app sometimes cause corruption.
The card is completely readable (a little laggy to begin to work after it was unmounted and reinserted). The card works without errors when connected directly to the PC.
These are the some tests I have made (reformatting and restoring the files between one test and the next, a real nightmare ):
1. Uninstalling Kies
2. Reinstalling Kies (and refreshing driver)
3. Uninstalling Kies and Samsung driver. Uninstalling USB driver and erasing it completely and let windows select the driver
4. Formatting the card in FAT32 via some software
5. Trying to format the card via command in windows (from the console). It takes about one hour and abort near the end with an error messages explaining that windows can not format FAT32 for this capacity
6. Even trying to partition the SD via DISKPART. I can create one primary partition (32000 MB) but DISKPART shows all disk allocated and do not allow to create another partition (either primary or extended)
Last symptom: I erased one file from the root directory of the SD using "My files" (the app preinstalled in the firmware by Samsung). The file disappear but My files shows a ghost file named with special characters.
When the SD is consulted via Root Explorer (an android file manager) or even connected directly to the PC, the ghost file did not show.
@tinderbox: could you remember who (or where do you read about) the other " 8.4" owner having problems with his microsd card " ?
Some body could suggest solution ?
Thanks for any help or guide.
Hi.
You did format the micosd card using the tablet, you cannot format on an computer and then use it in your tablet, the tablet uses it own file system, so you have to format the microsd using the tablet.
John.
Format the card to exFat in windows. It only takes a few seconds to format my Samsung Evo 64gb.
If it doesn't work then your card likely has issues.
Finally success
Thanks for your suggestions.
I tried almost everything:
1. Formatting FAT32
2. Reformatting in the tablet
3. Reformatting in the PC
4. Even formatting using a software from Verbatim website
The problem persists: SD Card is not editable (delete files, write files, edit files) when inserted in the tablet. SD works perfectly in the PC.
Finally I purchased another SD 64 Gb Toshiba Class 10. The SD package says it can work at 40 Mb/sec. The card write at 10 Mb/sec but it reads faster.
This Toshiba card works perfectly. I can erase or move files using android file manager (My Files app), I can write from the PC using tablet connected via USB to the PC. I can create files directly in the tablet (I used Jota+ to create a text file).
Verbatim card and Toshiba card specs seem identical, except by the speed claimed in the Toshiba package. There is some difference I am missing but definitively these cards are not equal (something in the card data bus ?)
I repeat, thanks to everybody who tried to help.
I only ever buy Samsung memory cards for years, and i test every one for errors and i have never found any, And if an Samsung memory card does not work in an Samsung tablet, well it is not going to happen, but people go for the cheap alternative.
John.

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