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So I'm still pretty new on the E4GT forums, having recently come over from a Nexus one, which was quite a bit easier to mess with as far as ROM's are concerned, and much less easy to brick. About the only thing that could brick an N1 was flashing a radio, and new radio's didn't come out that often, so no big deal.
I'm currently running Calkulins EL29 mod with an FC14 modem on my E4GT, but I'm really wanting to mess with the testing builds of CM9, I really miss CM. All the steps seems to spread out across multiple threads, so I want to make sure I do it correctly so as not to brick.
1. nandroid backup, backup, backup
2. boot to download mode
3. load stock cwm el26 through odin
4. flash cm9 zip
5. mess around with it.
Where I'm a little confused is how to get back to where I was should I decide to wait some more. How do I get back to the EL29 CWM so that I can then restore the nandroid backup? Also, will I need to flash different modems again, or can I stick with the fc14 modem through all of this?
Please understand that I'm not a total n00b at all of this, been flashing all kinds of ROM's on my old Nexus one for two years, just don't have much experience with Sammy devices.
You just want too flash roms and themes?
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I would also like to know the answer to this.. I'm terrified to flash or odin any ics-based roms because I don't want to brick my phone like a lot of others have
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ScubaSteev said:
You just want too flash roms and themes?
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Themes, not really, but ROM's yes. It's just a bit confusing cause I see things like, you need this CWM for this, you need to flash this, or you need to Odin that, you need this specific CWM for this, or you need to get back to stock before you fan flash or Odin this or that.
But what I'm really wanting help with at this moments, is the testing build of CM9, and then how to get back if I don't like it at this time.
Ok....I download roms straight from xda app and then I go to recovery......do a full wipe....wipe data/wipe dalvic/wipe cache/wipe battery stats.........then I install .zip (rom) then reboot.....that's all I do,its pretty simple
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ScubaSteev said:
Ok....I download roms straight from xda app and then I go to recovery......do a full wipe....wipe data/wipe dalvic/wipe cache/wipe battery stats.........then I install .zip (rom) then reboot.....that's all I do,its pretty simple
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The problem is that CM9 is an ICS ROM, you can't just flash willy nilly as there are a lot of reports of people bricking their phones cause they didn't use the right recovery. How to flash CM9 on is not my problem, it's how to get back to EL29 if I don't like the current testing build of CM9.
Ohh yeah....I don't mess with that stuff lol,can't take a chance.......but everyone says don't.
And I love cm7 can't wait for cm9 to be stable
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Check out QBKing77 on YouTube. He has very simple videos about how to get back to stock after flashing ROMs, his guidance taught me everything. But don't let my noob-ness detour you, they are great videos.
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xerxax said:
Check out QBKing77 on YouTube. He has very simple videos about how to get back to stock after flashing ROMs, his guidance taught me everything. But don't let my noob-ness detour you, they are great videos.
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People, please read my OP, I'm already rooted and running a custom gingerbread rom and recovery. I'm wanting to run CM9, but it may not be stable enough for me, so I'm wanting to know what the steps are to get back to my custom gingerbread rom should I decide to go back.
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People, please read my OP, I'm already rooted and running a custom gingerbread rom and recovery. I'm wanting to run CM9, but it may not be stable enough for me, so I'm wanting to know what the steps are to get back to my custom gingerbread rom should I decide to go back.
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The guy you just quoted... just told you where to find that information. :what:
This has been discussed ad nauseum all over the forums, and if you do a bit of research you will find the exact procedure. Since I'm on my phone, kinda a pain to type it all out. But he's right, the point is to get back to stock GB rom before restoring any GB nandroids. (specifically before wiping any partitions, but that's yet another long explanation.) This issue And procedure is the same for ICS leaks, for cm9, for AOKP.
Look for a sticky thread in general titled "how not to brick your phone" or something.
Or, god forbid, actually read one of the ICS/cm9/AOKP/leak threads. I swear, every third page you will see someone ask this and the process described.
And QBKING77s videos have a step by step explanation for this as well. Really the best way.
And yes, you can keep the modem, no matter what rom/kernel you run. Same thing as a "radio".
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kingdazy said:
The guy you just quoted... just told you where to find that information. :what:
This has been discussed ad nauseum all over the forums, and if you do a bit of research you will find the exact procedure. Since I'm on my phone, kinda a pain to type it all out. But he's right, the point is to get back to stock GB rom before restoring any GB nandroids. (specifically before wiping any partitions, but that's yet another long explanation.) This issue And procedure is the same for ICS leaks, for cm9, for AOKP.
Look for a sticky thread in general titled "how not to brick your phone" or something.
Or, god forbid, actually read one of the ICS/cm9/AOKP/leak threads. I swear, every third page you will see someone ask this and the process described.
And QBKING77s videos have a step by step explanation for this as well. Really the best way.
And yes, you can keep the modem, no matter what rom/kernel you run. Same thing as a "radio".
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I did some searching, and everything I found says to get back to stock, I didn't see where it said that you have to get back to stock first before you can then restore a nandroid.
This is not how it was done on the Nexus One, so it's new to me.
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I did some searching, and everything I found says to get back to stock, I didn't see where it said that you have to get back to stock first before you can then restore a nandroid.
This is not how it was done on the Nexus One, so it's new to me.
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Ics kennels with cwm have been bricking phones ....some just by wiping data ...they corrupt your data partition making it impossible to write to ..jtag doesn't even work on it...so we have been Odin back to stock GB and go from there
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You may want to read this if you haven't already:
How Not To Brick Your E4GT
Now that it has been stickied the OP went through and updated the first post to cover most of I believe you are trying to find out. Hope this helps!
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Ics kennels with cwm have been bricking phones ....some just by wiping data ...they corrupt your data partition making it impossible to write to ..jtag doesn't even work on it...so we have been Odin back to stock GB and go from there
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That's what I've been seeing, which is why I want to make sure I do it right. I don't even know what jtag is, had to look it up. Some kind of debugging tool from I found.
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You may want to read this if you haven't already:
How Not To Brick Your E4GT
Now that it has been stickied the OP went through and updated the first post to cover most of I believe you are trying to find out. Hope this helps!
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I'll definitely give it good read. Thanks.
I'm someone, like others I've saw, that are coming over here from the EVO 3d after having to go through asurion.
As a good XDA member, I read through the stickies.
I wanted to confirm what I've learned.
ICS for you guys is rather different. I'm seeing many versions of ICS, I'm guessing leaks at different stages (haven't seen many leaks on phones in a while).
I also saw that wipe in custom recoveries is a REALLY bad idea.
In fact it said not to use custom recoveries with ICS stuff.
So why does Calkulin's E4GT rom say you MUST use a custom recovery?
I thought I saw something crazy that said it depends what version you are on for the method you root. But I can't find that again. It seems weird, but please tell me that's wrong and there's only one way to really root.
karate134 said:
I'm someone, like others I've saw, that are coming over here from the EVO 3d after having to go through asurion.
As a good XDA member, I read through the stickies.
I wanted to confirm what I've learned.
ICS for you guys is rather different. I'm seeing many versions of ICS, I'm guessing leaks at different stages (haven't seen many leaks on phones in a while).
I also saw that wipe in custom recoveries is a REALLY bad idea.
In fact it said not to use custom recoveries with ICS stuff.
So why does Calkulin's E4GT rom say you MUST use a custom recovery?
I thought I saw something crazy that said it depends what version you are on for the method you root. But I can't find that again. It seems weird, but please tell me that's wrong and there's only one way to really root.
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You have to use a specific recovery to flash stuff, called the EL26/29 recovery. It's based on 5.0.2.7 (?) of ClockWorkMod recovery. This is generally accepted as the safest way to flash. Flashing from an ICS based recovery has been known to brick devices.
Samsung devices have Odin, much like HTC devices have Fastboot. We're able to put the device in Odin (download) mode and flash just about anything. There's even an app version called Mobile Odin that allows you to Odin flash directly from the phone without having to plug in.
Correct me if wrong but i think there is only an issue with ics recovery when wiping due to the emmc bug (partition corruption). Thats whats causing the bricks. There are plenty workarounds though. I use ics recovery to flash things, i just make sure to never wipe anything using the recovery. I use calk's format all zip and modified format zip whenever i need to wipe.
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Correct me if wrong but i think there is only an issue with ics recovery when wiping due to the emmc bug (partition corruption). Thats whats causing the bricks. There are plenty workarounds though. I use ics recovery to flash things, i just make sure to never wipe anything using the recovery. I use calk's format all zip and modified format zip whenever i need to wipe.
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Correct they have come up with ways to use ICS recovery to update and flash certain things. Honestly since the OP is new to Epic Touch I would stick with the very simply odin of el26 recovery and flashing anything you need while in ICS.
agat's threads have great info if you are a stock software guy with ways to flash and upgrade while on ICS. Honestly GB is pretty damn polished and there are some awfully nice roms for it as well and you have no worries at all with how you flash. sfhub has quite a few threads with his odin one click methods which have been a god sent for a lot of us here.
First decide what you want to do then any one of the OP's will direct you in the right direction. Also if you can read up on the How not to brick your phone threads/stickies in general I believe
Would be a better idea to use the cm9 direct boot Odin file. Much easier than pulling the battery 10 times. Read all the release notes on the cm9 wiki and you'll have safe flashing.
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Rooster-just curious, why would you need to pull the battery? I've flashed plenty of roms and haven't had to pull the battery once...
Karate-the easiest easy to just gain root access is to use sfhub's one click rooted el29-just boot into download mode (vol up + power), plug into the computer and click start...easy peasy
And as playya said, the OP's of any of the rom threads all have great info and directions to keep you flashing safely. Good luck and happy flashing!
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You have to use a specific recovery to flash stuff, called the EL26/29 recovery. It's based on 5.0.2.7 (?) of ClockWorkMod recovery. This is generally accepted as the safest way to flash. Flashing from an ICS based recovery has been known to brick devices.
Samsung devices have Odin, much like HTC devices have Fastboot. We're able to put the device in Odin (download) mode and flash just about anything. There's even an app version called Mobile Odin that allows you to Odin flash directly from the phone without having to plug in.
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Can you a link to el2? Recovery
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416477
Check this thread out, make sure to read all the directions and you should be able to find the auto root package where you can add cwm recovery to the kernel
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karate134 said:
I'm someone, like others I've saw, that are coming over here from the EVO 3d after having to go through asurion.
As a good XDA member, I read through the stickies.
I wanted to confirm what I've learned.
ICS for you guys is rather different. I'm seeing many versions of ICS, I'm guessing leaks at different stages (haven't seen many leaks on phones in a while).
I also saw that wipe in custom recoveries is a REALLY bad idea.
In fact it said not to use custom recoveries with ICS stuff.
So why does Calkulin's E4GT rom say you MUST use a custom recovery?
I thought I saw something crazy that said it depends what version you are on for the method you root. But I can't find that again. It seems weird, but please tell me that's wrong and there's only one way to really root.
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Im one of those that went through insurance too and ended up with this today and i gotta say I love it!
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im also coming over from the evo4g and evo3d not because of insurance wanted something different and im loving the phone so far..i will say i was lost at first with odin and el29 its a different way of doin stuff but not hard at all
Welcome, I recently made the switch as well. The screen is incredible after looking at the E3D for so long. Seriously, I stop to look at how pretty it is at least once every day.
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Welcome, I recently made the switch as well. The screen is incredible after looking at the E3D for so long. Seriously, I stop to look at how pretty it is at least once every day.
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Yup! It truly is amazing!
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Hi.. just moved from the Samsung Vibrant S to the Epic 4G touch. I am confused on how to get Clockwork Mod recovery on my phone. Flashing it via the ROM Manager Premium app doesn't seem to work. I reboot into recovery, and no Clockwork Mod.
What is the appropriate and correct way to get Clockwork Mod on the phone? It seems for now, the only way I can play with ROMS is to find an ODIN version of the ROM. I am willing to use that if necessary, but a lot of ROMS are not released in ODIN format. Can someone help? Thanks!
Recovery is packed with kernal. So you have to flash a kernal with the recovery of choice. I think the consensus is to use Odin or MobilOdin for now.
Agat63 has some nice kernals and CM9 folks are making some safe ones.
Make sure you read the stickies on how not to brick your phone. There's some dangerous stuff that can brick you permanently, especially if youre used to flashing stuff on other phones. Theyre not just for noobies. Definitely read the stickies here. And did i mention to read the stickies?
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Please tell me you are on a Gingerbread rom!
Also, do not use Rom Manager, ever.
We can help you with this, but tell us what you flashed so far so we know how to proceed. Tnx
Edit: Its ok to be on ics, but please don't do any rom or kernel flashing yet until we're sure its done the safe way.
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thanks guys. Right now, I haven't flashed a new ROM as of yet. Is there one that you would recommend. I'd rather wait till CM is in beta stage, and I have checked out Phantom's rom.
I did try installing a kernel FE22 i believe, and thought it would have recovery in it, but getting into recovery mode, I don't see Clockwork mod. Am i doing it incorrectly? Which kernel would u recommend. Thanks!
Heed tdunham's advice about ROM manager or you'll paperweight your shiny new phone. Here are the kernels http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662295 Read through some of the threads. I would recommend using the EL26 CWM or one of the latest ICS versions (FF11 FF18) from Agat63; they have not failed me or others. Being new to this device I'd recommend using one of sfhub's one-clicks then odin a kernel with recovery (again Agat would be my choice). Be careful to choose a recovery and install method that is expressly laid out by the developer. Using the wrong format, kernel, wipe, install method can also paperweight your phone.
Good luck.
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thanks guys. Right now, I haven't flashed a new ROM as of yet. Is there one that you would recommend. I'd rather wait till CM is in beta stage, and I have checked out Phantom's rom.
I did try installing a kernel FE22 i believe, and thought it would have recovery in it, but getting into recovery mode, I don't see Clockwork mod. Am i doing it incorrectly? Which kernel would u recommend. Thanks!
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I'm not sure what you've done so far but this is the method to install stock rooted and also CWM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24158551&postcount=9980
From there, you can flash anything you want. I would REALLY recommend sticking with a Gingerbread rom for a while. Flashing over to the leaked ICS builds can be pretty hazardous if you're not absolutely certain of how it's done.
I prefer Calkulin's 3.0 GB rom found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332837
It may look stock but believe me it is not. There are a few themed GB roms around to try also.
Wicked sensations is an awesome ICS ROM by Team Venum.
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I have what may appear to be a pretty dumb question. I am running EL29 stock but rooted with Rogue Recovery which states it is CWM 5.0.2.7 I believe. I've been told that Rogue is not currently a safe recovery. I would like to know if there is a way to get my phone to where when I boot into recovery it is CWM and not Rogue ?? Hope this makes sense. I've searched for delete Rogue recovery to no avail. Any help would be appreciated.
thanks in advance.
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I have what may appear to be a pretty dumb question. I am running EL29 stock but rooted with Rogue Recovery which states it is CWM 5.0.2.7 I believe. I've been told that Rogue is not currently a safe recovery. I would like to know if there is a way to get my phone to where when I boot into recovery it is CWM and not Rogue ?? Hope this makes sense. I've searched for delete Rogue recovery to no avail. Any help would be appreciated.
thanks in advance.
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Here is the Kernel Repository maintained by RWilco. Just pay attention to the notes and the descriptions for each group and then read the threads linked for each.
:edit: Side note - Do NOT use Rom Manager to apply kernels/recovery for this phone.
If you need directions and helpful information, and if you haven't already, read this. [TUT] What Is ClockworkMod And How To Use It [Complete Guide] [VeNuM]
I'm so very confused as to what to do right now. I just bought an e4gt phone that I was told was rooted and flashed to cricket already, but when I get home, no custom recovery and I su doesn't respond to auto allow requests from superuser.apk, so I figure it lost root on that ics update. It's saying it's Fl24, and upon following various threads and stickies and videos, I'm absolutely overwhelmed, especially considering e4gtauto-sfx.exe and e4gtauto.zip are missing from their download links in a monster thread here in xda, so any help would be appreciated...
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I'm so very confused as to what to do right now. I just bought an e4gt phone that I was told was rooted and flashed to cricket already, but when I get home, no custom recovery and I su doesn't respond to auto allow requests from superuser.apk, so I figure it lost root on that ics update. It's saying it's Fl24, and upon following various threads and stickies and videos, I'm absolutely overwhelmed, especially considering e4gtauto-sfx.exe and e4gtauto.zip are missing from their download links in a monster thread here in xda, so any help would be appreciated...
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Don't necro post. And go read the stickies in the general section.
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Don't necro post. And go read the stickies in the general section.
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Okay, now I would just like to say, as long as you necro post in a thread relevant to your isssue/question you shouldn't be responded to in that manner^^^
If it's already there and they post a new one they get flamed like hell for it, at least they took the initiative to actually search obviously!
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Okay, now I would just like to say, as long as you necro post in a thread relevant to your isssue/question you shouldn't be responded to in that manner^^^
If it's already there and they post a new one they get flamed like hell for it, at least they took the initiative to actually search obviously!
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That's the problem, his questions don't pertain directly to CWM. He just says that there is not one on his phone. Basically, he is asking about how to get root back on a device that sounds like it actually wasnt rooted, and that is a completely different subject. And even if he was directly asking about CWM, the answer is in the post right above his. So he my have searched, but he isn't reading.
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All sorted out now, and you're right, it was all there for me to find. The issues with this phone regarding bricked devices and various unsafe recoveries and kernels WAS overwhelming, but after a couple days of lurking the stickies and all the other related threads I believe I've got at least a working awareness of the situation. For anyone else who comes after me, agats tREC CWM based recovery combined with the fl24 kernel as compiled by garwynn is a good place to begin, and qbking77's video tutorials will go a long way to getting you up to speed. Thanks (for nothing ) folks, this e4gt will live to see another day!
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All sorted out now, and you're right, it was all there for me to find. The issues with this phone regarding bricked devices and various unsafe recoveries and kernels WAS overwhelming, but after a couple days of lurking the stickies and all the other related threads I believe I've got at least a working awareness of the situation. For anyone else who comes after me, agats tREC CWM based recovery combined with the fl24 kernel as compiled by garwynn is a good place to begin, and qbking77's video tutorials will go a long way to getting you up to speed. Thanks (for nothing ) folks, this e4gt will live to see another day!
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Easiest way is to Odin full restore (rooted) the desired ROM. As of now I'd say GB27
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191954
[LINK][ROM][ODIN][TAR]SPH-D710 GB27 (GB27 Modem/Kernel/ROM - Root/Stock)
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Well, while that is the newer repack, i wouldn't day it's the EASIEST method, because the vast majority (dare i say all?) of AOSP based ROMs specifically instruct you to "not use with a JellyBean modem." Following your method, they'd have to Odin flash to gain root, mobile Odin their CWM recovery, then follow ir up with flashing back to an ICS modern, re updating their carrier data & PRL (as well as nv items n all that) then get on to the ROM flashing business. If they start with FL24, they're able to side-step the whole modem compatibility consideration and jump right into flashing their custom OS of choice. Unless, of course, they decide to go with something that's TouchWiz based. But having been new to this device not that long ago, i can say with confidence that the AOSP based ROMs that reside in the "Android original development" thread are much more appealing to someone who's just gained root and is settling down to tweak their device to the fullest extent that modern development safely allows. So, yes, that is the most updated method, but easiest? Gotta say that was covered in my post...
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Well, while that is the newer repack, i wouldn't day it's the EASIEST method, because the vast majority (dare i say all?) of AOSP based ROMs specifically instruct you to "not use with a JellyBean modem." Following your method, they'd have to Odin flash to gain root, mobile Odin their CWM recovery, then follow ir up with flashing back to an ICS modern, re updating their carrier data & PRL (as well as nv items n all that) then get on to the ROM flashing business. If they start with FL24, they're able to side-step the whole modem compatibility consideration and jump right into flashing their custom OS of choice. Unless, of course, they decide to go with something that's TouchWiz based. But having been new to this device not that long ago, i can say with confidence that the AOSP based ROMs that reside in the "Android original development" thread are much more appealing to someone who's just gained root and is settling down to tweak their device to the fullest extent that modern development safely allows. So, yes, that is the most updated method, but easiest? Gotta say that was covered in my post...
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You have no idea what is the easiest method... Your method had a ton of steps and nothing to do with what was even asked or brought up by the other user.
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You have no idea what is the easiest method... Your method had a ton of steps and nothing to do with what was even asked or brought up by the other user.
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I was a bit cheeky. Apologies. That's what i get for drunk posting... His post was written with the best of intentions. That was no way of me to show my gratitude. However, graydiggy, I'm guessing you weren't hugged enough as a child.... As for what you said about his post, you're half right, the GB27 method would be a fine choice for some purposes. And to clear up the mess i was in when i first posed my question to this thread, that'd have given me root and gotten me back to a happy place. But i didn't expound on my end purpose... I wanted to be able to flash Cyanogenmod, AOKP, etc, etc... And perhaps without the bundled recovery that'd still be a fine route to go, except for the JB modem issue i mentioned, but that's just an extra step. But, on a side note, Garwynn just uncovered some real troubles with the GB27 kernel and custom recovery repack he put out, in case anyone wants to look over it you can find the thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40218765. But, for flashing aosp ROMs, sidestepping the jb modem issue does save a step, so for that purpose, I'd still go with the fl24 one click. In my opinion and for my purposes. So again, sorry for my cheeky-ass post.
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I don't know how many times I was hugged... Who cares? Some people do like me and some don't, because I am brutally honest 95% of the time. When a user offers advice that is lacking or more work than what needs to be done, I tend to let them know how dumb it is and I have no problem doing it. I am not always trying to be a d**k about it, but it comes out that way sometimes...
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Boohoo, I gave bad advice and got called on it, I'm going to pout now :stompsfeet: :sly:
☆SoA: Son's of Android™☆
I like to break stuff!
If i use sfhubs ff18 to update my phone. Can i use cwm 5.0.2.7 to flash Universal Rom ??
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eddie102301 said:
If i use sfhubs ff18 to update my phone. Can i use cwm 5.0.2.7 to flash Universal Rom ??
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Please, please do some reading (and then do much much more), before you make yourself and expensive paperweight.
You question shounds like you are going to try and use ROM Manager. If you do use ROM Manager you're very likely to kill your device.
Education, patience and prudence will go far toward insuring you discover what you are looking for.
If you use sfhub's FF18 one-click stock+root then you can use his 'Autoroot' package to add CWM_Agat (a safe recovery/CWM).
Read the stickies, read the how-tos and read the Original Posts for the different ROMs AND the following/follup posts to those and you will surely find the information you are looking for. Sfhub's One-clicks and Autoroot have superb instructions and will get you started.
Good luck.
I know how to do some of the stuff. I just wanted to make sure i can use the right recovery before i flash. Thanks for all the help. I appreciate it.
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Glad to hear. Just be sure to follow the ROM builder's instructions for flashing. Often times they will only want you to use a kernel that they particularly recommend.
Just note though, Agat's (and Chris 41G) have gone a long way towards creating a 'safe from eMMC bricking' kenel/recovery(s).
Have fun.
So what is this?
I have always wondered would it be safe and easier to flash custom roms using Odin if we had odin packages for custom roms. So I started to poke around and research. Rwilco12 has been a great help. I was working on this before new year and was getting somewhere. I had created quite a few full Odin tars for couple ROMs but none of the packages had successfully flashed the whole ROM. These tar packages are similar to the stock .tar files that sextape posts but they are rooted and are not stock Sprint builds.
As some of you may know, I got sick and caught flu on new year so had to stop working on this and hasn't worked on this since 27th Dec plus now new college semester has started so I am somewhat short on time.
So the reason I am posting this here is that I want to know from you whether you would be interested in using Odin to flash custom roms? OR Would you rather continue to flash custom ROMs using CWM?
If more people are interested in this and would seriously use these to flash custom ROMs then I will continue to work on it. I want honest responses. I wouldn't mind a bit if you think Odin custom ROM flashing is not the way you would go. Also you can use the poll for your response.
I will appreciate any useful responses.
Im actually working on something similar for my Note 2 rom. Gonna have the choices of a zip, tar or aroma install. Going the extra tar route to include files for people rolling back from higher firmware with errors so they dont have to flash modems and the fix separately and can just odin 1click back. It would actually probably work well for any rom it makes it much easier for a noob to flash without fear of using an unsafe kernel on et4g and without having to learn everything all at once before they can try something out. Odin has been fairly safe for me minus one incident with a leak when I flashed an incomplete tar and bricked nyself but other than that never had a single hiccup using odin with complete files. It would make it easy for people to flash without recovery as well since they could mobile odin the new rom instead :thumbup:
I give this idea :thumbup::thumbup:
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It has its ups of convenience but is not practical for developers. From my understanding, it is much easier to break into a zip file to update stuff for the new builds fix bugs and find bugs to fix, as well as it being easier to build a zip to flash. Also, as the end user of a ROM, I like to go in and add or remove things before I flash my ROM. I can't do that easily if at all if it is Odin based.
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I've been talking about this for months, since we had the eMMC super brick issue. No one listened...
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graydiggy said:
It has its ups of convenience but is not practical for developers. From my understanding, it is much easier to break into a zip file to update stuff for the new builds fix bugs and find bugs to fix, as well as it being easier to build a zip to flash. Also, as the end user of a ROM, I like to go in and add or remove things before I flash my ROM. I can't do that easily if at all if it is Odin based.
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I hear you but its only couple linux commands to unpack the system folder and then you can make any changes.
Mattix724 said:
I've been talking about this for months, since we had the eMMC super brick issue. No one listened...
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I heard you, I just had no clue how to pack a tar for odin yet lmao. I know how to create one in linux in place of a rar or zip file but didnt have the first clue what I needed to pack for odin to pick it up and flash. Now I have a nifty little tool that builds the oneclicks for me
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I heard you, I just had no clue how to pack a tar for odin yet lmao. I know how to create one in linux in place of a rar or zip file but didnt have the first clue what I needed to pack for odin to pick it up and flash. Now I have a nifty little tool that builds the oneclicks for me
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Is this the tool you use that came from the N2 forum?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/package-odin-roms-with-gzip-compression-hidden-menu-gets-an-update/
And Blues - I was attempting this for the deodexed and couldn't get it to clean flash properly. I'd be interested in seeing if odexed/deodexed can be used in this manner since there were people asking for it.
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Is this the tool you use that came from the N2 forum?
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-gzip-compression-hidden-menu-gets-an-update/
And Blues - I was attempting this for the deodexed and couldn't get it to clean flash properly. I'd be interested in seeing if odexed/deodexed can be used in this manner since there were people asking for it.
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Might be im not at my pc to check the package name atm. But if its the one garwynn told me about then yeah that be it
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BluesRulez said:
I hear you but its only couple linux commands to unpack the system folder and then you can make any changes.
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But how many of the average users have either a dedicated Linux box or even a VM to do that? On top of that, How many of the average users that don't have either want to set all that up then learn those commands to unpack the tar, edit what they extracted, re-pack it, then re-sign the tar? Yeah there are programs that will pretty much do that for you, but like I said, it is more convenient to keep the official and unchanging builds for Odin and and keep the custom ROMs that are changing every week in the zip format.
Why try to fix something that isn't broken and is much easier to do?
Am I saying "no you can't do it."? Not at all. If you want to spend the time to do all that, go for it. But I can bet you money that half of the developers that are pushing weekly and nightly builds will not want to do all the extra stuff. Look at the bigger picture, most people want pure convenience. There are also big risks with flashing ROMs via Odin.
Bricks being the biggest one.
This topic has been brought up quite a few times in many device forums including this one, and what I have said has been said by many others.
It's just not logical.
That's why im giving 3 install options. Zip tar and aroma. You choose how you wanna install each have their own pros and cons. The biggest pro for odin is I can pack fixes that cant be flashed in a typical zip and can AIO everything so its a single flash and not a zip stack to get it working
I like to break stuff!
If a developer wants to offer tar files for their ROMs then they can do it. It is their decision, not the end user.
Just because you want to dissect someone else's work, does not mean that they are going to cater to your every desire.
Yes, there are risks in flashing via Odin such as flashing the wrong pit, boot.bin, data... but if the developer has tested the tar like all developers should always be testing their own work before releasing to the general public. The only other issue would be bad downloads, which it is entirely up to the user to always check the MD5 before flashing.
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Ok I want to clarify something. I am not saying rom devs have to do this.
I will be creating them for the various roms.
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BluesRulez said:
Ok I want to clarify something. I am not saying rom devs have to do this.
I will be creating them for the various roms.
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And you have my approval for my FK23 and any future ROMs that I may or may not make.
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My thoughts are that it is great for a noob. That is they only want to flash a rom and run with. If you are a dev or like me trying to get the hang of theming and more the zip is the way to go. It its possible to brick your phone ether way. But its is much easer for the noob to do a one click than installing a cwm zip. That they tend to mess up and post after post about all the problems. LoL
But for a dev I can see the problem. I say yes sofpr the noobs. We were all anoob at one point in time. Thanks op I was thinking of this too.
monkeytools said:
My thoughts are that it is great for a noob. That is they only want to flash a rom and run with. If you are a dev or like me trying to get the hang of theming and more the zip is the way to go. It its possible to brick your phone ether way. But its is much easer for the noob to do a one click than installing a cwm zip. That they tend to mess up and post after post about all the problems. LoL
But for a dev I can see the problem. I say yes sofpr the noobs. We were all anoob at one point in time. Thanks op I was thinking of this too.
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Well, in the words of garyd (search if you don't know to whom I refer to), it seems that 75%, or more, of people aren't here to dev.
I'll be honest; when I first came here a short time ago, I wanted to root so I could add all the tweaks and themes because a fellow co-worker showed me what could be done. Then the inner geek came out and now I am like a dog on a squirrel going tree to tree trying to soak up all I can. Just gotta focus..
My point = this is a place for "stuff". I'm not taking away from the roots of XDA nor it's intentions because I now understand what a dev told me (Venum, cough, cough, good guy, cough) - This is a place to learn.
I hope Blues follows through with this because he can help me figure out where I may have failed or vice versa.
Who cares about the "numbers" that want it..
Ask a teacher - "If you can reach one.. " What they'd say..
My 2 cents... I have always kept a blu kuban nandroid that is a fully functional backup that's ready to go if I crap up the phone and don't have time to rebuild before say going to work. Even if it's out dated, it's ready to go. To turn said backup into a one click would be that much cooler if the recovery is blown too. Could a script be made to turn a nandroid folder into a one click?
As for the roms being released for odin, it sounds cool but I would miss adding stuff like swype and other system apps myself.
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Hey Blues, if you need any help building tar files for the vast number of ROMs out there, I am waiting for more work to be available before I can go back to work... damn construction.
I have at least this week maybe some of next week available to help.
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Mattix724 said:
Hey Blues, if you need any help building tar files for the vast number of ROMs out there, I am waiting for more work to be available before I can go back to work... damn construction.
I have at least this week maybe some of next week available to help.
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Thanks. So far I have used couple ICS roms. Took the system folder and packaged that into factoryfs.img and then a blank data.img and zimage with all remaining files which are standard in stock .tar such as boot.bin, param.lfs etc to create a full rom .tar. It flashes all the parts but when the time comes for it to boot, it goes to samsung flash screen. Tries 2 times to boot and then boots into custom recovery (agat for the zimage I used).
Rwilco has suggested couple things but haven't had a chance to try those so may be I will get on it!
Hey Moho. How much have you done yet?
BluesRulez said:
So what is this?
I have always wondered would it be safe and easier to flash custom roms using Odin if we had odin packages for custom roms. So I started to poke around and research. Rwilco12 has been a great help. I was working on this before new year and was getting somewhere. I had created quite a few full Odin tars for couple ROMs but none of the packages had successfully flashed the whole ROM. These tar packages are similar to the stock .tar files that sextape posts but they are rooted and are not stock Sprint builds.
As some of you may know, I got sick and caught flu on new year so had to stop working on this and hasn't worked on this since 27th Dec plus now new college semester has started so I am somewhat short on time.
So the reason I am posting this here is that I want to know from you whether you would be interested in using Odin to flash custom roms? OR Would you rather continue to flash custom ROMs using CWM?
If more people are interested in this and would seriously use these to flash custom ROMs then I will continue to work on it. I want honest responses. I wouldn't mind a bit if you think Odin custom ROM flashing is not the way you would go. Also you can use the poll for your response.
I will appreciate any useful responses.
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Yessssssss do it!!! It will be less bricks out there cuz ppl don't know wat safe recovery to use! Like certain peeps like to flash using blu Kuban kernel! Then wonder why the ROM don't boot!!! Do it BluesRulez
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BluesRulez said:
Hey Moho. How much have you done yet?
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Slightly different way of making the fs.img and only doing a Rom flash.
Was working with deoxdexed flashing on top of a stock base.
Boots but ui crashes. Like a blank ui..
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