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Nandroid backups

How can I delete past backups that are stored in the Nandroid Restore utility? I have like 6 and I dont wanna waste that space!
Thanks for the feedback!

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Diamond777 said:
How can I delete past backups that are stored in the Nandroid Restore utility? I have like 6 and I dont wanna waste that space!
Thanks for the feedback!
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They are on your SD card in the Nandroid folder, view the details of the folder and delete the oldest one, I tend to copy them over to my PC to stop space clogging up on the phone.
When I try different ROM's I get them set up how I want them and then do a Nandroid backup, saves having to keep starting from fresh, especially if there is only a small update to be done.

Does renaming the folders messing this up.

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123belly said:
Does renaming the folders messing this up.
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It doesnt mess it up as long as you do the following:
Example:
CBDMRS12-20100128-1509 Original Hero ROM
(just add an explanation of the back up on the end of the ID number, when you want to restore just remove the bit you added and stick it on your SD card.
I have done this a few times, I now have backups of most of the ROMS on here but the difference being that they are all set up with account details etc, i just got sick of inputting the same stuff every time I tried a ROM.

123belly said:
Does renaming the folders messing this up.
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I can say I changed the name completely and it would not restore. Luckily I had backed it up on my computer. I changed the name back to the original name and it restored no problem.

ljmeli said:
I can say I changed the name completely and it would not restore. Luckily I had backed it up on my computer. I changed the name back to the original name and it restored no problem.
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When unsure, dont use spaces.

claudefrog said:
They are on your SD card in the Nandroid folder, view the details of the folder and delete the oldest one, I tend to copy them over to my PC to stop space clogging up on the phone.
When I try different ROM's I get them set up how I want them and then do a Nandroid backup, saves having to keep starting from fresh, especially if there is only a small update to be done.
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I have root explorer on my samsung epic, I do not see Nandroid backup folder - where is it?
Thanks

It's depending on what recovery-rom you have been using..
AmonRA usually saves them at /sdcard/nandroid/ while clockworkmod saves them in /sdcard/clockworkmod/nandroid I think..

mljjlm said:
It's depending on what recovery-rom you have been using..
AmonRA usually saves them at /sdcard/nandroid/ while clockworkmod saves them in /sdcard/clockworkmod/nandroid I think..
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Found it - it is under my Clockworkmod directory I was looking for nandroid directory

OH YEAH
This has nothing to do with what you guys are talking about but i found this nifty app that is good for looking around in your nandroid back ups..not just too look around but go inside them as you would in a .zip folder (if you get what i mean)
click here >>>>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.goddchen.android.nandroidbrowser&hl=en

Data Restoration From CWM

I am running current version of Bonsai 3.0.1 Yesterday, my phone dropped and the battery fell out. When I tried to reboot the phone, there were many Force Closes. I tried fixing permissions twice but it was still having FC issues, so I figured I'd restore the data. Well, I hadn't backed up in several days, so I did a Nandroid backup before I went to restore. I kind of figured that restoring the phone from a backup of bad data wouldn't work and it didn't. Restoration from that backup causes a endless reboot. Sooooo, I restored from a backup which was several days old and it worked fine. But, my data is old for one particular app.
So my question is this: Can I extract data for one particular app and restore it from a Nandroid backup?
Or is it possible to restore the apps only from the Nandroid backup?
If I choose "Restore Data" from the Nandroid backup, I go into an endless reboot loop.
Restoring the "System" will bring the phone back to working, but the data is old.
Yeah, Yeah, I have Titanium and could have accomplished this easily with it, but I hadn't been backing up there either.
I know I'm probably screwed, but if anyone has any suggestions about how to get my data back (for one app or all), I'd sure appreciate it.

sndtubes said:
I am running current version of Bonsai 3.0.1 Yesterday, my phone dropped and the battery fell out. When I tried to reboot the phone, there were many Force Closes. I tried fixing permissions twice but it was still having FC issues, so I figured I'd restore the data. Well, I hadn't backed up in several days, so I did a Nandroid backup before I went to restore. I kind of figured that restoring the phone from a backup of bad data wouldn't work and it didn't. Restoration from that backup causes a endless reboot. Sooooo, I restored from a backup which was several days old and it worked fine. But, my data is old for one particular app.
So my question is this: Can I extract data for one particular app and restore it from a Nandroid backup?
Or is it possible to restore the apps only from the Nandroid backup?
If I choose "Restore Data" from the Nandroid backup, I go into an endless reboot loop.
Restoring the "System" will bring the phone back to working, but the data is old.
Yeah, Yeah, I have Titanium and could have accomplished this easily with it, but I hadn't been backing up there either.
I know I'm probably screwed, but if anyone has any suggestions about how to get my data back (for one app or all), I'd sure appreciate it.
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I think there is a way. Someone else had a similiar problem and wanted to get their text message data out. It is in the thread below where 00dwan talks about unyaffs and data files. Seems a bit complicated but if the data is that important you will need to be able to identify the data file for that app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993827
Hope this helps.

kennyglass123 said:
I think there is a way. Someone else had a similiar problem and wanted to get their text message data out. It is in the thread below where 00dwan talks about unyaffs and data files. Seems a bit complicated but if the data is that important you will need to be able to identify the data file for that app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993827
Hope this helps.
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Thank you Thank you Thank you. Works great!
I'm having trouble putting the file where it needs to be (I'll figure it out), but I am able to get the information I need from the data file even if I can't get the file where it goes.
It is kinda weird. I put the file on my SD card and then put it into the phone. I copy the file to the clipboard and then go to the directory I need to place the file in. I select paste and it seems to paste the file, but nothing changes. I think it was because I hadn't mounted the system/data as RW. But the strange thing is that when I copy the file to the clipboard from the SD card, the file DISAPPEARS as if I cut it instead of copied it. Anyway, I'll figure it out.
Thanks again for the tip!

sndtubes said:
Thank you Thank you Thank you. Works great!
I'm having trouble putting the file where it needs to be (I'll figure it out), but I am able to get the information I need from the data file even if I can't get the file where it goes.
It is kinda weird. I put the file on my SD card and then put it into the phone. I copy the file to the clipboard and then go to the directory I need to place the file in. I select paste and it seems to paste the file, but nothing changes. I think it was because I hadn't mounted the system/data as RW. But the strange thing is that when I copy the file to the clipboard from the SD card, the file DISAPPEARS as if I cut it instead of copied it. Anyway, I'll figure it out.
Thanks again for the tip!
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Glad it helped. Definitely sounds like it wasn't mounted r/w. Wierd that it disappears from card on a copy operation. Root Explorer is good for this.

NAND Backup identification?

Well, I have made a few NAND backups here and there whilst using different ROMs for my Evo. I only have one issue: how do I tell which setup was which ROM? Is there a way I can tell, without NAND restoring each individual one, which NAND backup is which ROM? Like maybe previewing it?
Also, I once read that you can take them off of your Evo and put them on a desktop so it doesn't take up space. Well I was wondering can I rename the folders and files to the setup they are or even to anything? Will it mess up if I try to restore to it after changing the name?
Thanks you

DRatJr said:
Well, I have made a few NAND backups here and there whilst using different ROMs for my Evo. I only have one issue: how do I tell which setup was which ROM? Is there a way I can tell, without NAND restoring each individual one, which NAND backup is which ROM? Like maybe previewing it?
Also, I once read that you can take them off of your Evo and put them on a desktop so it doesn't take up space. Well I was wondering can I rename the folders and files to the setup they are or even to anything? Will it mess up if I try to restore to it after changing the name?
Thanks you
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You can remove them to your desktop to free up some space on your SD card and YES you can rename your Nandroid folders not the files.
So for example if your Nandroid folder is setup like this...../Nandroid/HT0CMHL08312/BCDEARS-20110622-0404......THEN you can rename the BCDEARS-20110622-0404 into whatever you want as long as you don't have any spaces and if you do have spaces then replace them with either _ or - to avoid any errors during restore
Oh and this is all assuming you're running amon ra recovery not clockworkmod which the folders will be setup differently which in that case you would just rename the last folder before you see all the files such as recovery.img and things like that.......

Okay thanks. Do you know how I could identify them without restoring to each individual one?

DRatJr said:
Okay thanks. Do you know how I could identify them without restoring to each individual one?
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The only way I know aside from restoring them and to be honest, this way is kind of long but not longer then restoring the files one by one IS......
download an app from the market called unyaffs2
Make a folder on the SD card "whatever you want to call it"
once you download that app, copy over the system.img to that folder you just created from whatever restore folder you're trying to ID
Run unyaffs2
Hit Browse for input (find the system.img)
Hit Start Unyaffs
Once is finish doing it's thing, navigate to the folder you created and you should find a file called build.prop, go ahead and open it up with a text editor.....if you're using Root Explorer then is one of the options in that app
Once you're inside that app, navigate to the very bottom until you see "ro.modversion" and that should tell you what the ROM is whether is Cyanogenmod 7 or Sprint Lovers or whatever......

Kinda lengthy haha. I wish they would just have an emulator for PC or something to where you could just have it "virtually restore" from the NAND and see what it was.

DRatJr said:
Kinda lengthy haha. I wish they would just have an emulator for PC or something to where you could just have it "virtually restore" from the NAND and see what it was.
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Yeah is long but not as long as rebooting into recovery, wiping caches and factory settings, restoring......getting an ID on the rom and doing it all over again time after time after time...hahahaha

[Q] Safely Remove Backup Assistant?

I'm fairly new to the whole root/S-OFF/custom ROM world.
After flashing cmlusco's Touch of Blue ROM, I realized that it did not include Verizon's Backup Assistant. Makes complete sense to not include it, however, I found myself in a situation where I briefly needed it. No problem - I just flashed the Backup Assistant apk through recovery and was able to successfully use it.
Now I want to get rid of it. What is the recommended method for completely removing Backup Assistant? What is the safest method for removing it?
I appreciate any assistance/advice

Use a program like "Titanium Backup" to uninstall the Verizon app. It's free in the play store. Once downloaded, press:
1) Menu button
2) select Filter
3) then check "All apps" under filter status
4) check "User" under filter type
5) click Apply then find and uninstall the Verizon app.
Titanium Backup is very useful if you want to uninstall System apps or regular apps since it is a root app. Just be careful what you uninstall cuz you can uninstall virtually anything (widgets, apps, apk's) using this app.

Or you can just use a root file explorer to navigate to /system/app and delete or rename the VzWBAClient.apk, VzWBAService.apk, VzwLBSPerm.apk, and VZWInstaller.apk. Then reboot and it will be gone.

cmlusco said:
Or you can just use a root file explorer to navigate to /system/app and delete or rename the VzWBAClient.apk, VzWBAService.apk, VzwLBSPerm.apk, and VZWInstaller.apk. Then reboot and it will be gone.
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It's much faster/easier to just uninstall it with TB

cmlusco said:
Or you can just use a root file explorer to navigate to /system/app and delete or rename the VzWBAClient.apk, VzWBAService.apk, VzwLBSPerm.apk, and VZWInstaller.apk. Then reboot and it will be gone.
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This is what I ended up doing - thanks for the info.
I was originally going to use Titanium to accomplish this, but it gave a warning that important system files could also be deleted. Given that I've backed everything up, I assume that there wouldn't be any real issues even if Titanium did delete something critical.
Which brings up another question: is Titanium doing the same thing as manually deleting the 4 files listed above? I suppose I could test this by reinstalling Backup Assistant, using Titanium to uninstall, and looking to see what is left...

S2theSea said:
This is what I ended up doing - thanks for the info.
I was originally going to use Titanium to accomplish this, but it gave a warning that important system files could also be deleted. Given that I've backed everything up, I assume that there wouldn't be any real issues even if Titanium did delete something critical.
Which brings up another question: is Titanium doing the same thing as manually deleting the 4 files listed above? I suppose I could test this by reinstalling Backup Assistant, using Titanium to uninstall, and looking to see what is left...
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Basicly yes its doing the same thing just automating it for you. If you delete with titanium the files get deleted, if you freeze with titanium the files are either renamed or moved.

cmlusco said:
Basicly yes its doing the same thing just automating it for you. If you delete with titanium the files get deleted, if you freeze with titanium the files are either renamed or moved.
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More good info - thanks again. I appreciate the patience and willingness of the community to help educate newbs like myself.
BTW, excellent work on the Touch of Blue ROM - it's been running nearly perfect for me after ~2 weeks.

S2theSea said:
More good info - thanks again. I appreciate the patience and willingness of the community to help educate newbs like myself.
BTW, excellent work on the Touch of Blue ROM - it's been running nearly perfect for me after ~2 weeks.
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Thank you, glad you like it.

Ok, have bumped phone... TWRP, and working great, but have question

So I restored my phone from a TWRP backup, very nice, very fast.
However, I discovered I have to (re)setup my Cal account options, and other apps accounts/options as well.
Is the restore supposed to be an 'exact' copy of my phone?
Thanks.

1. Questions go in Q&A forum not General.
2. Whenever I have restored using TWRP it has been an exact copy of what I backed up.

samorgs said:
1. Questions go in Q&A forum not General.
2. Whenever I have restored using TWRP it has been an exact copy of what I backed up.
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Hum. My backups include boot, system and data. No cache or EFS. They are all restored.
Am I missing a setup thing or ?

samorgs said:
1. Questions go in Q&A forum not General.
2. Whenever I have restored using TWRP it has been an exact copy of what I backed up.
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Hum. My backups include boot, system and data. No cache or EFS. They are all restored.
Am I missing a setup thing or ?
I am unable to move this thread to QA

JeffDC said:
Hum. My backups include boot, system and data. No cache or EFS. They are all restored.
Am I missing a setup thing or ?
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In order to have an "exact" copy you would have to restore the "cache" too, but since you didn't back up your cache your only choice would be is to redo your settings.

Please post questions in the Q&A section
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Amb669 said:
In order to have an "exact" copy you would have to restore the "cache" too, but since you didn't back up your cache your only choice would be is to redo your settings.
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Excellent, thank you.

JeffDC said:
Excellent, thank you.
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Okay well your cache has nothing to do with settings saved on your phone. Your cache can be deleted at any time while running any ROM and it wont change settings in your phone, unless for some odd reason your phone has not written the data to storage yet before a reboot. Your cache is used to temporarily store files that your phone will need in the future to help open apps quicker without having to look up the required files each time for the operation. Instead, the phone can look to the cache to quickly load commonly used files back into the RAM.

acparker18 said:
Okay well your cache has nothing to do with settings saved on your phone. Your cache can be deleted at any time while running any ROM and it wont change settings in your phone, unless for some odd reason your phone has not written the data to storage yet before a reboot. Your cache is used to temporarily store files that your phone will need in the future to help open apps quicker without having to look up the required files each time for the operation. Instead, the phone can look to the cache to quickly load commonly used files back into the RAM.
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Thanks. Any thoughts on why my restore did not have my 'accounts' setup, like my default google account for 'Cal(anded)", and others? I had to spend a bit of time re-setting up a number of 'accounts and preferences.

JeffDC said:
Thanks. Any thoughts on why my restore did not have my 'accounts' setup, like my default google account for 'Cal(anded)", and others? I had to spend a bit of time re-setting up a number of 'accounts and preferences.
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I noticed you said that you also didn't backup the EFS partition. That shouldn't have anything to do with your accounts but I always backup and restore the EFS partition each time and I have never lost any account info. It could have to do with the fact that your EFS partition contains carrier and device-specific info like your device ID number that could have caused your backup to not recognize the device once you restored it. This probably lead to your phone erasing your account info out of security in case someone else had gotten a hold of your backup and restored it to their phone. This way, the person who hijacked your backup couldn't access sensitive information like account login credentials. I'm not sure if this is the case, but it seems to be the only explanation I have. Next time you do a backup, include the EFS partition and see if that fixes it on the next restore. Either way, I hope it doesn't erase it on you again man. I know it can be frustrating to have to manually fix little details like that every time. Best of luck!

acparker18 said:
I noticed you said that you also didn't backup the EFS partition. That shouldn't have anything to do with your accounts but I always backup and restore the EFS partition each time and I have never lost any account info. It could have to do with the fact that your EFS partition contains carrier and device-specific info like your device ID number that could have caused your backup to not recognize the device once you restored it. This probably lead to your phone erasing your account info out of security in case someone else had gotten a hold of your backup and restored it to their phone. This way, the person who hijacked your backup couldn't access sensitive information like account login credentials. I'm not sure if this is the case, but it seems to be the only explanation I have. Next time you do a backup, include the EFS partition and see if that fixes it on the next restore. Either way, I hope it doesn't erase it on you again man. I know it can be frustrating to have to manually fix little details like that every time. Best of luck!
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Thanks for the detailed response. Good info to understands.
Following the loss of the accounts, and everyone's help, I am backing up everything in the list, EFS as well.