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Gap on right between glass & bezel

I’ll post some pics later, but wondering if anyone else has a gap between the glass and bezel on the right side of the phone? The left side seems pretty flush with the glass.
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crapy pic, but here it is...

Take it back
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smellmyfingers said:
I’ll post some pics later, but wondering if anyone else has a gap between the glass and bezel on the right side of the phone? The left side seems pretty flush with the glass.
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Mines like that too. I thought it was normal. I was worried about crud getting in the crack but its been fine and doesn't affect anything on the phone.
I just tried to take a macro shot of it and had no luck. Wonder if I should swap it out. Really don't want to get stuck with one that actually has an issue.

i'm more worried about dust under the glass. having that gap, i'm sure it will

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i'm more worried about dust under the glass. having that gap, i'm sure it will
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Closer inspection shows there is some dust in there but not a lot at all. I have 8 days to decide on swapping it. Don't know how many returns wirefly allows.

Where did you get your phone from? Would they swap it out for that.
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Jjday7 said:
Where did you get your phone from? Would they swap it out for that.
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From the corporate store off contract
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Mine does not have that issue.
To be fair, there is a tiny (I mean really tiny) gap on both sides but nothing that looks out of place. It appears it's by design.
Yours appears to be much worse.
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I pulled my case off just to check and i have a very noticeable gap on the left and bottom sides of my screen. Its not enough of a reason for me to exchange it but its there. I always have the body glove case on so i dont ever see it
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I believe that these small gaps are by design, seriously. Think about the dispersion of shock when the device hits the ground. If it was perfectly flush with the
metal it would be way more likely to crack instantly..with the gap some energy escapes giving the glass a small but crucial release of pressure.
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ingenious247 said:
I believe that these small gaps are by design, seriously. Think about the dispersion of shock when the device hits the ground. If it was perfectly flush with the
metal it would be way more likely to crack instantly..with the gap some energy escapes giving the glass a small but crucial release of pressure.
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i agree with that. but in the OPs pic you can see the metal underneath thats crazy

Mudkip said:
i agree with that. but in the OPs pic you can see the metal underneath thats crazy
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Mine looks like his but I only see the glue they use or whatever they use to seal the screen.

Yeah. The left side has a really small gap but the right is pretty big. Its big enough i can stick my fingernail in it.
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Thinking about doing an exchange but I'm worried about getting this issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300133&highlight=quadrant
Seems to he pretty common. I personally dont have the issue or any issues build wise on my current phone. Its risky because I think I can only exchange one time.

Yeah. That's what I'm worried about. Going in to exchange it tomorrow morning and gonna check the hell out of the phone before I leave the store.
I noticed it more today when I got my TPU case and the right side would get caught up on the gap.
Better pics of the gap. one of the left with the smallest gap and one of the right like grand canyon (ok...may not as big, but close )

smellmyfingers said:
Yeah. That's what I'm worried about. Going in to exchange it tomorrow morning and gonna check the hell out of the phone before I leave the store.
I noticed it more today when I got my TPU case and the right side would get caught up on the gap.
Better pics of the gap. one of the left with the smallest gap and one of the right like grand canyon (ok...may not as big, but close )
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yeah that looks really bad. how how did you walk outta the store with it like that??
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Honestly. I was so excited about the phone i didn't even notice it.
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smellmyfingers said:
Honestly. I was so excited about the phone i didn't even notice it.
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First Android? Lol
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ingenious247 said:
First Android? Lol
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More like first 4.52 Samoled Plus super beast i'm guessing....
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More like first 4.52 Samoled Plus super beast i'm guessing....
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Exactly. Had android since the N1
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Anyone here replaced the Front Outer Glass only?

Asking to those who had a scratch on the screen and didn't wanna pay 200 odd bucks to replace the LCD and Digitizer, have you bought any of those third party front outer glass available on eBay for around 20 bucks? If you have done it, does the S Pen work, or is the glass Gorilla or just standard one?
I have a scratch on mine, very tiny, but it's in the middle of the phone, that's why it's irritating me, but I will no way spend 1/3 of the phone's price to replace the LCD and Digitizer especially when I believe the LCD is not scratched as it is not deep.
Thanks in advance.

I would live with it if I were you. It is highly likely that no matter how skilled, you will end up with some imperfection that will be just as bad as the scratch. You will also void your warranty. For a small scratch it isn't worth the money or time when you can't be guaranteed of a perfect result. Also consider that the cheap eBay screens are usually not genuine and probably not even gorilla glass so will scratch up more easily leaving you worse off than you are now.
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I wouldn't suggest changing the glass for a scratch. Alternatively, you could just get a glass screen protector that covers the entire front glass; it will hide the scratch, and its glass!
However, if you do still decide to go along with changing the screen then check the link below on my signature.
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jmpmjmpm said:
I would live with it if I were you. It is highly likely that no matter how skilled, you will end up with some imperfection that will be just as bad as the scratch. You will also void your warranty. For a small scratch it isn't worth the money or time when you can't be guaranteed of a perfect result. Also consider that the cheap eBay screens are usually not genuine and probably not even gorilla glass so will scratch up more easily leaving you worse off than you are now.
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Hmm! I would not do it by myself. Was thinking about a professional.
And I highly doubt the front glass is Gorilla.
bushako said:
I wouldn't suggest changing the glass for a scratch. Alternatively, you could just get a glass screen protector that covers the entire front glass; it will hide the scratch, and its glass!
However, if you do still decide to go along with changing the screen then check the link below on my signature.
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Yeah, thanks. I have heard that some screen protectors do make some tiny scratches invisible, maybe it's right, protectors like Martinfield or something, don't remember the name exactly. You have any advice, brands with a link would be appreciated.
And thanks for the link on your siggy.
PS: Didn't notice that you mentioned Glass protectors! Well won't that make the screen less responsive or something? Will the S Pen work as it does normally? Honestly I don't have any idea or even heard of Glass protectors for Note 2.

jujuburi said:
And I highly doubt the front glass is Gorilla.
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Your joking right? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_devices_with_Gorilla_Glass
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jmpmjmpm said:
Your joking right? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_devices_with_Gorilla_Glass
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No, absolutely not.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_ii_n7100-4854.php
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-GALAXY-Note-II_id7254
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/samsung

jujuburi said:
No, absolutely not.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_ii_n7100-4854.php
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-GALAXY-Note-II_id7254
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/samsung
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I'm sorry your links prove what?
It has been widely debated. The note 2 has gorilla glass 2 as my link PROVES. You think you know so much and ask noob questions about changing a screen! :banghead:
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Mate Wiki isn't "proof" for anything. It's the last reliable source if anything.
I think it probably has GG to be honest, because otherwise I'm not sure how it even passes the moderate scratch tests - if it's plain glass surely it should immediately scratch? And even S3's with Gorilla glass could scratch like crazy if a grain of sand gets in there.

jmpmjmpm said:
I'm sorry your links prove what?
It has been widely debated. The note 2 has gorilla glass 2 as my link PROVES. You think you know so much and ask noob questions about changing a screen! :banghead:
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My links say that Note 2 does NOT have Gorilla Glass. Say, not prove. You might be a Samsung fanboy, but I am not. Why sites like GSMArena, Phonearena, Corning doesn't mention that it has GG? They don't have any personal problem with Note 2, so?
And what's that 'so much knowing thing', are you a kid or what?

jujuburi said:
My links say that Note 2 does NOT have Gorilla Glass. Say, not prove. You might be a Samsung fanboy, but I am not. Why sites like GSMArena, Phonearena, Corning doesn't mention that it has GG? They don't have any personal problem with Note 2, so?
And what's that 'so much knowing thing', are you a kid or what?
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Samsung and corning already said early on they wouldn't confirm as they were under some sort of NDA agreement
Only a fool would believe a flagship device like the note 2 doesn't use "gorilla glass" or some other aluminosilicate equivalent.
Samsung fanboy? LOL I will pit my line up of devices over yours anyday
Enjoy your scratched up non aluminosilicate screen
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Okay, so what about those sites? They have some agreements too?
And yes, I am fool, but I believe what I see, unlike you, who depends on flagship device and those craps.

jmpmjmpm said:
Samsung and corning already said early on they wouldn't confirm as they were under some sort of NDA agreement
Only a fool would believe a flagship device like the note 2 doesn't use "gorilla glass" or some other aluminosilicate equivalent.
Samsung fanboy? LOL I will pit my line up of devices over yours anyday
Enjoy your scratched up non aluminosilicate screen
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One the attack eh? Was your knowledge challenged?
Are you the type of person who always has to be correct? If you wanted to be 100% correct in your post I suggest you read up in writing etiquette or even behavioural science . Was a little harsh and very defensive.
This thread is going south.
Needless to mention, in the absence of any type of confirmation from Corning, you are more than likely right with your assumptions.
Hope you have a great day.
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jmpmjmpm said:
I'm sorry your links prove what?
It has been widely debated. The note 2 has gorilla glass 2 as my link PROVES. You think you know so much and ask noob questions about changing a screen! :banghead:
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Sigh.....xda is getting worse & worse. You're attitude sucks. Whether he is wrong or right, you need to show a little more respect....being correct, doesn't entitle you to be rude. I haven't looked at your profile, but your behaviour shows a level of immaturity that isn't helpful here.
Edit....which is a shame, because your first post was a good one.
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jujuburi said:
Hmm! I would not do it by myself. Was thinking about a professional.
And I highly doubt the front glass is Gorilla.
Yeah, thanks. I have heard that some screen protectors do make some tiny scratches invisible, maybe it's right, protectors like Martinfield or something, don't remember the name exactly. You have any advice, brands with a link would be appreciated.
And thanks for the link on your siggy.
PS: Didn't notice that you mentioned Glass protectors! Well won't that make the screen less responsive or something? Will the S Pen work as it does normally? Honestly I don't have any idea or even heard of Glass protectors for Note 2.
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Sooooo anyways, going back to the main topic here..For the screen protector just check here

bushako said:
Sooooo anyways, going back to the main topic here..For the screen protector just check here
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Yeah, thanks for dragging me back to ON topic.
Thanks for the link too, wish the shipping over here was not same as the product!

PSA: Possible recall of S4's

Reposted from the AT&T S4 forum:
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I just found out at work while on a Samsung technician training the galaxy as 4's are possibly going to be recalled. The frame of the phone is to weak and flex's easy resulting in the screen cracking down the middle. Samsung is determining how many they've sold and what the cost would be. Depending on the cost they'd either issue a recall or replace the phone when it breaks for that reason.
Just letting the community know.
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What ever happened to quality assurance testing?! Wouldn't expect this from a company as big as Samsung. Unacceptable.
If this is true, the only solution should be a recall which allows for a brand new phone. What does it mean to fix it when it happens? Send the phone into them and wait a week for them to refurbish the phone? Their mistake, they should take the short end of the stick.
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Sounds like a load of TROLL crap from whoever originally posted it.

yea don't the robot butt jeans sit on these phones?

Someone on the att thread made a good point. It wont be recalled because its not safety related, just build quality related. So most likely whats gonna happen is that they will send you a new phone (or refubished more likely) to replace your damaged one.
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I dont believe this at all.
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it won't be recall , i think

I thought the pre-order numbers for this phone was massive, way more than S3. No way they would recall a gazillion phones.

bikrame said:
I dont believe this at all.
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This.

sauce pleez.

wavrunrx said:
sauce pleez.
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lol

rfail1988 said:
Reposted from the AT&T S4 forum:
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I don't believe this either but i'm curious to find out if it's true. my screen developed a hairline crack across the middle within a week. never dropped it, never sat on it, never squeezed it, nothing. and Tmobile has been giving me hell because they say it's accidental damage and there's nothing they can do. if i want it fixed i'll have to pay.

Ooh fun thread. Wait, let me get my shovel...
How strong would a plastic frame be anyhow? I like plastic phones because they're lite. But they're not bomb proof. Nevertheless, I trust Samsung would know by now how to make a plastic phone.
Btw, did anyone see the MKBHD vid when he flexes the S4 next to the microphone? I don't think the screen cracked.

that's my concern as well. They made the phone both thinner AND lighter, but i think they overdid it. There's no need for the phone to be this thin. Not when you sacrifice durability to achieve it. when the phone is this thin, and the chassis is made of soft plastic, the screen becomes the most rigid part of the device. and screen with class that's about as thick as a sheet of paper. and to answer your question, no, samsung DOES NOT know how to make a plastic phone. For that, see any modern Lumia phone by NOKIA...

Lets hope that doesn't happen

irishdsmyth said:
Lets hope that doesn't happen
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I wonder how u can even think that can happen.
Recalling 10 millions phone is possible at all.
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Waiting
bikrame said:
I wonder how u can even think that can happen.
Recalling 10 millions phone is possible at all.
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I think that I will wait it to buy one.
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GG2012 said:
I thought the pre-order numbers for this phone was massive, way more than S3. No way they would recall a gazillion phones.
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I agree with you. It will be terrible for samsung.

Generally, electronics only get recalled for major safety issues. There is the possibility of a warranty extension, but unless S4s start bursting into flames or giving people cancer there will never be a recall.

Optimus G Pro is drop proof

Someone asked about fragility of G Pro
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Im also a bit more concerened about phone durability. I take care of my things but I want a little more cushion for when accidents happen. Is the OG Pro just as fragile as the s4? Has anyone managed to accidentally crack theirs?
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Looking on it in near sight I've already noticed one thing. The glass doesn't cover full size of the phone but instead has .2mm spare space to the edges of phone. Also the glass in not surrounded by banking board. Also the glass has beveled edge, about 70° sharp.
So I presume that the glass would not crack even if the phone would be dropped from 6 feet height. Unless of course it would be dropped flat fall on screen
Another indirect proof of that is here. Watch Note 2 has cracked glass when G Pro doesn't have severe damages

If you think this device is drop proof you are delusional. I haven't watched the linked video nor do I need to. The front is glass and could crack from a 6" fall. Many things factor in here including luck.
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americasteam said:
If you think this device is drop proof you are delusional. I haven't watched the linked video nor do I need to. The front is glass and could crack from a 6" fall. Many things factor in here including luck.
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Well, someone eventually will test it, people drop their phones here and there.
And also I'll attach here link to this topic Optimus G = UNBREAKABLE

Well no phones drop proof obviously but ive had 2 friends that had lg phones and ive had one myself and I can tell u theyre probably the some of the best built on the market. My connect was dropped, thrown, stepped on, kicked and all manner of torment and worked like the day I bought it till the day I traded it in on this. Ive seen lg phones survive multiple (so many I lost count) drops that would have sent a samsung or htc device to the scrap heap...
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i have 4 days with mine 3 day screen cracked wating for replacment the only thing is i havent found a teardown video
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dami00976 said:
i have 4 days with mine 3 day screen cracked wating for replacment the only thing is i havent found a teardown video
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Exactly. My wife has a One X. She has dropped, thrown it onto a hard floor with force, and let's our 3 old play with it like it's his. It has a ton of scratches, but hasn't broken. Some were saying when it released that it was super fragile. I guess since hers has been abused it must be the toughest phone ever made. Right? No, she's been extremely lucky.
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americasteam said:
Exactly. My wife has a One X. She has dropped, thrown it onto a hard floor with force, and let's our 3 old play with it like it's his. It has a ton of scratches, but hasn't broken. Some were saying when it released that it was super fragile. I guess since hers has been abused it must be the toughest phone ever made. Right? No, she's been extremely lucky.
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I don't Think that it was luck. I also had the one X and dropped it a few times and the screen never cracked or shattered.
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americasteam said:
thrown it onto a hard floor with force
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:silly:

americasteam said:
thrown it onto a hard floor with force
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Lol reminds me of my indestructible Sammy Infuse. Threw it a many times and all I ever got was a small glass chip on the corner then one day I threw it on gravel rocks and let's just say that's the end of that
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jesi.james said:
Lol reminds me of my indestructible Sammy Infuse. Threw it a many times and all I ever got was a small glass chip on the corner then one day I threw it on gravel rocks and let's just say that's the end of that
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Why?
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Why?
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I thought I threw it to the grass but it fell a bit short. Otherwise, my infuse was practically indestructible, surving every fall(maybe 8-10 times)
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I dropped my GPro out of my lap when I was getting out of my truck and it hit the asphalt pretty hard on a corner and barely nicked it. The phone pretty much looks flawless. Seems durable to me as long as u don't drop it face first. Lol
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i most be realy unluky mine just fell and broke my camera crystal camera sill works
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i most be realy unluky mine just fell and broke my camera crystal camera sill works
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You mean the camera lens? That sucks man. Hopefully there will be extra parts available soon and you could fix that up yourself. I know I would. I'm ocd enough that it would bug the crap outta me
In the meantime, if anybody asks, just say the phone developed character
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Do not go without a case, this phone is not durable at all! This is what happens from slding out of my pocket while in a chair and falling <18" to a patio.

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Do not go without a case, this phone is not durable at all! This is what happens from slding out of my pocket while in a chair and falling <18" to a patio.
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I'm assuming by patio you mean stone/brick/concrete/pavers, right? If that's the case, most phones wouldn't be too fond of an 18" drop.

Yeah, but I've had other phones hit asphalt from 4-5 feet high on the corner and survive with only nick in the bezel. My post is just a warning that this phone is definitely not "drop proof". I've only had the OGP for four days and already have to shell out $ for an insurance claim. Sad thin is my case I ordered is supposed to show up today.

so_fassa said:
Do not go without a case, this phone is not durable at all! This is what happens from slding out of my pocket while in a chair and falling <18" to a patio.
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I think that thing dropped patially flat on display, now vertically on the corner. bad luck, yes
Anybody seen drop tests on youtube? When will they be available

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Do not go without a case, this phone is not durable at all! This is what happens from slding out of my pocket while in a chair and falling <18" to a patio.
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Wow that really bad luck i ve droped mine probably a half a dozen times onto tile from the side of my bed,2, 2 1/2 ft and not so much as a scratch.
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My cousin drop his coming out of his car and the screen cracked so no it not drop proof but close to it

[Q] Curved Glass

Ordered my OG Pro, should have it tomorrow, currently using a Note II.
I've seen on several sites that the phone has a curved glass screen...is this a fact? How come none of the reviews on Youtube have anyone mentioning that?
Anyone with an OG pro that can verify?
Thanks!

gmoooney said:
Ordered my OG Pro, should have it tomorrow, currently using a Note II.
I've seen on several sites that the phone has a curved glass screen...is this a fact? How come none of the reviews on Youtube have anyone mentioning that?
Anyone with an OG pro that can verify?
Thanks!
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Glass is not curved. Not sure where that rumor came from.
The edges of the glass are beveled though.
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ReggieSmith said:
Glass is not curved. Not sure where that rumor came from.
The edges of the glass are beveled though.
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Thanks, I'm not sure either but if you google it, you can find several links from reputable sites. I cant wait to get my phone...just the fact that it has a smaller bezel and 1080p is enough to make me drop my Note 2. I never...use the s pen...and I mean never.

gmoooney said:
Thanks, I'm not sure either but if you google it, you can find several links from reputable sites. I cant wait to get my phone...just the fact that it has a smaller bezel and 1080p is enough to make me drop my Note 2. I never...use the s pen...and I mean never.
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i"ve changed from Note 1 for the exact same reason.....you gonna like this phone for sure....but if you"re kind of "flasholic guy" you gonna be bored!! expect to have less support from dev...but personally i just dont care!!! this phone have everything except the bootloader unlocked, but should come soon however....
nice purchase.....

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i"ve changed from Note 1 for the exact same reason.....you gonna like this phone for sure....but if you"re kind of "flasholic guy" you gonna be bored!! expect to have less support from dev...but personally i just dont care!!! this phone have everything except the bootloader unlocked, but should come soon however....
nice purchase.....
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We currently have root as well as CWM working.. a few good devs are trying to crack the bootloader and I suspect it will be soon. But even without it, this phone is an absolute beast...
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We currently have root as well as CWM working.. a few good devs are trying to crack the bootloader and I suspect it will be soon. But even without it, this phone is an absolute beast...
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though we can"t flash a rom yet with cmw because of the bootloader....your absolutely right.....this phone its a beast....:good: