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As the title states today i got my sgs s II. impressed with it so far but i want to start flashing new roms. Came from the sgs 4g i am familiar with cwm, odin and superoneclick but looking at roms here i see that there are ICS roms that have special requirements as to flashing (read the megamix install instructions) and i don't want to brick or otherwise mess this phone up. if anyone can guide in the right direction where to start and the differences in the roms on this forum id really appreciate it.
The ICS ROM's are not completely stable yet, they are based off the Skyrocket ICS leak. But it's the same as your old phone, Odin CWM then flash a rom. No need to root if you're going to flash a custom rom, they are already rooted. The only requirement for ICS is flashing the super wipe zip from the dev section before flashing the rom. Just make sure you follow instructions in the OP word for word, and you will be fine. But READ READ READ 3x before jumping in.
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As the title states today i got my sgs s II. impressed with it so far but i want to start flashing new roms. Came from the sgs 4g i am familiar with cwm, odin and superoneclick but looking at roms here i see that there are ICS roms that have special requirements as to flashing (read the megamix install instructions) and i don't want to brick or otherwise mess this phone up. if anyone can guide in the right direction where to start and the differences in the roms on this forum id really appreciate it.
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It's hard to brick. Use Odin, flash something with root, and use CWM beyond that. Generally, ROM features are listed in the threads where they're posted. You might start out by reading through some threads.
thx for the info i was a little confused about the ics was looking thru and the tuesday rom looks very nice. again thank you for the info and for putting up with a noob.
I agree with what everyone has said.
For what it's worth:
Eugene's Macnut is my daily driver. I try them all, and I am always going back to it. Fantastic battery life, great performance, and everything just works. The custom driver is fantastic--already highly undervolted.
If you don't care about wi-fi calling, his CM7 is fantastic.
If you want ICS, they are all basically the same right now, with a few tweaks / mods / themeing here or there.
Yaldak's vanilla update will be the next ICS that I try (none are quite stable enough for me yet...and no wifi calling) whenever he releases it.
Also--if you haven't already, just CWM via Odin, and you can be done. I never even booted into the stock version when I got the phone.
any working links for the cwm? looking thru posts cant find one that will open.
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any working links for the cwm? looking thru posts cant find one that will open.
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this is a zip i put together. it has:
Odin 1.85
CWM recovery.tar.md5
ADB / USB Drivers for the t989
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/622730/t989.zip
Enjoy!
I recently rooted and started flashing my GS2 as well as my GF's G2x. For the GS2, I've tried Tuesday's BluRay. It's really nice..very fast and smooth, great looking themes for it too, but I found it was a bit too limited, and eventually had to load another launcher and reconfigure some of the sounds. I also really missed the time on the status bar (M&S has since put out a patch that added the clock to one of the themes, unfortunately it wasn't the theme I preferred). I ran with that for a couple days and have since flashed Foxstar. I really like Foxstar's included utilities and tools, but it was a bit laggy coming out of the lockscreen and scrolling through pages. I've read that loading faux's kernel over the included synergy helps a lot. Will probably do that in a bit and run with foxstar for a few days to test out performance and battery life. But I'm getting itchy fingers and might try one of the CM7 ROMs or Juggernaut soon. I'm making Nandroids of each install I've done (as well as the stock), and eventually I'll pick one to run as a daily driver.
I recommend Eugene's next CM7 update the R3. I've been running with it since R1 and it's superb.
With the massive customizations it's hard to go back to GB or the alpha like ICS's out there. Although the latter have great qualities.
does the cm7 have the tv out function via the mhl cable?
Since you're new here. The few times a gs2 was bricked is because of:
1. flash a rom different galaxy s2 rom as in the international, the att, sprint, old vibrant. We can flash the skyrocket roms though.
2. Using odin to flash a stock rom incorrectly. i.e. using a pit file, battery falls out etc
3. the Phone just DIES OUT. Believe it or not, some people's phone just shuts off and won't turn on again.
But other than that, our phone is pretty hard to brick if you're not stupid.
T989 is a beast and is very hard to brick if you have a lil bit of root knowledge...everything ive learned has been thru google , trial and error and the bad ass devs here at xda..if u search for it you will find the answers to all your questions
ihateDISCO said:
As the title states today i got my sgs s II. impressed with it so far but i want to start flashing new roms. Came from the sgs 4g i am familiar with cwm, odin and superoneclick but looking at roms here i see that there are ICS roms that have special requirements as to flashing (read the megamix install instructions) and i don't want to brick or otherwise mess this phone up. if anyone can guide in the right direction where to start and the differences in the roms on this forum id really appreciate it.
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Sell it and get a phone with better development. This ones is horrific imho, but you know what they say about opinions. 8)
I just got this phone (Samsung Galaxy S2, Epic 4G Touch) a few months ago. I'm tired of waiting for ICS to come out. I already know that I have a hard brick bug chip (from running the checker app someone here made). I think here are all of my options:
1. Install a leaked ICS ROM. Can I be safe from bricking if I do it right?
2. Install Cyanogenmod ICS. Am I safe here?
3. Wait for ICS or Jelly Bean to be released from Sprint for my phone. How long will that take??
What I want:
1. ICS
2. Better battery life: is this a kernel or ROM thing?
3. Candied Bacon
Awk34 said:
I just got this phone (Samsung Galaxy S2, Epic 4G Touch) a few months ago. I'm tired of waiting for ICS to come out. I already know that I have a hard brick bug chip (from running the checker app someone here made). I think here are all of my options:
1. Install a leaked ICS ROM. Can I be safe from bricking if I do it right?
2. Install Cyanogenmod ICS. Am I safe here?
3. Wait for ICS or Jelly Bean to be released from Sprint for my phone. How long will that take??
What I want:
1. ICS
2. Better battery life: is this a kernel or ROM thing?
3. Candied Bacon
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I would wait, supposedly ICS is rumored to roll out by Samsung on the 20th, so I wouldn't risk it...But, if you insist, I would personally go with Cyanogen Mod Alpha 6, just make sure to flash it correctly (I recommend Flash EL26, then Cyanogen in its CWM recovery) Just make sure you read through the bug list in Cyanogen Mod Alpha 6 first to make sure that everything you need is working. Honestly though, I would just wait for the update by Samsung if you want to play it safe.
Link to Stock EL26 with CWM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605355
Please Note: I am in to way responsible if you or anyone reading this bricks or damages their device in any way. If the reader does not agree to this, please disregard the text above immediately, and do not let it influence you and/or guide you in any way.
ICS is being released over the air starting today
There are multiple discussions here in our General section http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1282
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I would wait, supposedly ICS is rumored to roll out by Samsung on the 20th, so I wouldn't risk it...But, if you insist, I would personally go with Cyanogen Mod Alpha 6, just make sure to flash it correctly (I recommend Flash EL26, then Cyanogen in its CWM recovery) Just make sure you read through the bug list in Cyanogen Mod Alpha 6 first to make sure that everything you need is working. Honestly though, I would just wait for the update by Samsung if you want to play it safe.
Link to Stock EL26 with CWM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605355
Please Note: I am in to way responsible if you or anyone reading this bricks or damages their device in any way. If the reader does not agree to this, please disregard the text above immediately, and do not let it influence you and/or guide you in any way.
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ICS is being released over the air starting today
There are multiple discussions here in our General section http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1282
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Thanks guys. I've been googling articles on the release date for months and finally when I decide to ask here, it's out. :silly: Can't wait to get the update, hope I get it soon. Thanks!
You can wait for the offical ota update. but just because it started today doesn't mean you'll get it today or tomorrow. I know I had to wait a week with my old epic 4g(not touch). you can look thru the different roms to see which one would fit your needs better. If you odin the leaked FF18 version you will be safe. Battery life mostly depends on how you use your phone and what settings you have. when i was running GB i had mine undervolted, sync turned off and screen brightness turned way down. The biggest thing about flashing ICS roms is follow the OP's instuctions. Since we now have the new ICS kernel (from source code) flashing ICS to ICS should be safe. but I can't say for sure i haven't tried it yet.
What is candied bacon? never heard of it
g_ding84 said:
You can wait for the offical ota update. but just because it started today doesn't mean you'll get it today or tomorrow. I know I had to wait a week with my old epic 4g(not touch). you can look thru the different roms to see which one would fit your needs better. If you odin the leaked FF18 version you will be safe. Battery life mostly depends on how you use your phone and what settings you have. when i was running GB i had mine undervolted, sync turned off and screen brightness turned way down. The biggest thing about flashing ICS roms is follow the OP's instuctions. Since we now have the new ICS kernel (from source code) flashing ICS to ICS should be safe. but I can't say for sure i haven't tried it yet.
What is candied bacon? never heard of it
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Candied bacon is bacon cooked with brown sugar on it.
Would me installing an FF18 today be any different than the one to be pushed out later? Does Cyanogenmod have FF18 for my phone? Or is that not how Cyanogenmod works..
So a ROM is specific to a phone, and a kernel is specific to a ROM, but is a kernel specific to a ROM for a phone, or is a kernel specific to any phones's version of a ROM? S*** just got confusing..
If I use Sprint's pushed ROM, will I become unrooted? Do new ROMs come with new accompanying kernels?
Ugh I'm so confused.
Candied bacon is bacon cooked with brown sugar on it.
AWESOME
Would me installing an FF18 today be any different than the one to be pushed out later?
Yes! If you use sfhub's One-Clicks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229 you will have FF18 AND root. If you update the OTA you will lose ROOT.
Does Cyanogenmod have FF18 for my phone? Or is that not how Cyanogenmod works..
Yes there is a CM9 for this phone (right now on Alpha 6). IF you plan on flashing that make absolutely sure you follow the precise instructions or you will surely paper weight your phone! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563658
So a ROM is specific to a phone, and a kernel is specific to a ROM, but is a kernel specific to a ROM for a phone, or is a kernel specific to any phones's version of a ROM? S*** just got confusing..
Yes it can be confusing! So please, please take some time to read through the stickies and posts here! A little time spent reading through all the threads will save you killing your device.
Good luck
leaderbuilder said:
Candied bacon is bacon cooked with brown sugar on it.
AWESOME
Would me installing an FF18 today be any different than the one to be pushed out later?
Yes! If you use sfhub's One-Clicks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229 you will have FF18 AND root. If you update the OTA you will lose ROOT.
Does Cyanogenmod have FF18 for my phone? Or is that not how Cyanogenmod works..
Yes there is a CM9 for this phone (right now on Alpha 6). IF you plan on flashing that make absolutely sure you follow the precise instructions or you will surely paper weight your phone! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563658
So a ROM is specific to a phone, and a kernel is specific to a ROM, but is a kernel specific to a ROM for a phone, or is a kernel specific to any phones's version of a ROM? S*** just got confusing..
Yes it can be confusing! So please, please take some time to read through the stickies and posts here! A little time spent reading through all the threads will save you killing your device.
Good luck
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Thanks for your help! I'll be sure to browse the stickies around here.
So what do you suggest to me? Installing Cyanogenmod 9 A6, or a rooted FF18? Also, will I be able to keep all of my data when installing these?
edit: It looks like both options will reset my data. I was really hoping to avoid that. I'm wondering how to save data from things like certain games...
edit2: Also, I am wondering if I can customize my boot up screen with Cyanogenmod, because SAMSUNG doesn't allow you to do it with their dumb custom boot animation format. I havn't seen anything about being able to do it with C9 on a phone with Samsung's custom boot anim format.
If you use sfhub's one click 'no data' it will preserver your data and give you FF18 plus root.
Since you are just starting out that is what I would recommend. It will give root, keep your data and the latest modem and everything (stock) Touch Wiz
If you want CWM you can use Mobile Odin [ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.mobileodin.pro&hl=en ] to add Agat's latest safe recovery found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767421 One of the best paid apps around if you plan on doing any modding. Watch the tutorial and read how to use it. Pretty simple. Biggest issue I found is that when selecting a kernel or other update you have to scroll down (way down) to click on apply update - easy to miss.
Again take the time and read through the entire posts. Many times questinon you are going to ask (or will come up with soon enough) will be answered.
Welcome and hope you enjoy the phone.
and if I or anyone else helps you out feel free to click on that 'thanks' button.
leaderbuilder said:
If you use sfhub's one click 'no data' it will preserver your data and give you FF18 plus root.
Since you are just starting out that is what I would recommend. It will give root, keep your data and the latest modem and everything (stock) Touch Wiz
If you want CWM you can use Mobile Odin [ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.mobileodin.pro&hl=en ] to add Agat's latest safe recovery found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767421 One of the best paid apps around if you plan on doing any modding. Watch the tutorial and read how to use it. Pretty simple. Biggest issue I found is that when selecting a kernel or other update you have to scroll down (way down) to click on apply update - easy to miss.
Again take the time and read through the entire posts. Many times questinon you are going to ask (or will come up with soon enough) will be answered.
Welcome and hope you enjoy the phone.
and if I or anyone else helps you out feel free to click on that 'thanks' button.
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Thanks, I'll install sfhub's NODATA. Now I'm wondering whether to give my brother the stock install or to root his... He has the same phone.
You can also download titanium backup or my backup. Both are in the market. I use it to back up all my apps. There are other programs to backup SMS and call logs. Sometimes you can have issues with not wiping the data.
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You really can't go wrong with sfhub's one-clicks. They are essentially OTAs (released to development) that sfhub as added root to and made them unbelievably simple to use. And since the Sprint OTA build is FF18 your good to go. Just don't take the OTA if you are presented with it as you'll lose root.
With root you will be able to use some great tools (Titanium Backup, Mobile Odin, WiFi tether etc.) and be able to remove loads of carrier 'bloatware'.
I'd start that way and read up on using CWM and the different tools and options here.
I flashed ICS, but personally I wish I had stayed on GB for a little while longer. ICS is going out over the air today, and it would be nice to allow the devs a little more time with it. I recommend Calkulins latest GB ROM.
Personally, I recommend MIJJz ICS. There's a couple of versions to meet your needs. I use "Goodness" which has all the bells and whistles. I imagine with the official ICS release coming out that he'll be updating his ICS Roms soon, especially Goodness. If you try it out, let us know what you think.
[ROM][TN] MIJJz ICS {GOODNESS 7/9}{MINI 6/30}{LTD 6/25}{NO-NAME}{SLIM}:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1512419
I've been running sfhub's NODATA ICS ROM for the past day and Agat's Kernel and it's been running pretty well. Thanks all!
I have been considering Mijjs Goodness, thanks for that.
So I would like to get back into rooting, but I have some concerns from the last time I rooted a phone (HTC EVO 4G), that maybe you guys could help quell. :silly:
So the last time I rooted, everything went successfully and I made proper backups but unless I was using stock clockwork recovery mod I had some serious carrier issues, the biggest of which was I had absolute zero stock voicemail functionality only after a day of setting up a Google voice account I managed to get some Voicemail functionality in Cyanogenmod. The whole experience was unbelievably frustrating since the phone would also miss calls and not tell me (missed calls would show up out of the blue an hour or two after my friends had initially called). However I did have all the benefits of rooting. Maybe someone has an answer to what I ****ed up when I did this because other EVO users that were running cyanogen were clueless to what my problem was or what caused it.
Second I heard there's some strange IMEI bug that happens on galaxy s3s when rooting that I don't quite understand. I'm trying to get myself a list of successive steps to safely root my GS3. I noticed there's a lot of root guides but I'm wondering which is considered to be the most up to date and safest. found QB root guide if that's the most optimal.
Third, will rooting still let me wifi tether for free? This was a hugely important feature to me since my internet situation is more sketchy more often than not.
Fourth, I don't understand why CM10 is considered to be such a badass mod, is it performance optimization? Some killer feature that's going over my head? I assume it's a 4.1.2 version for S3 owners (one of the main reasons I'd like to root is so I can take advantage of the new multi-window feature).
Fifth, Can I still install OTA updates? Props to MikeWjF for the concise answer.
Is there any key things I'm missing out on, your advice is much appreciated guys!
Yeah I had weird quirky problems like that on my OG EVO as well on AOSP ROMs. I ended up sticking with Sense based ROMs and pretty much stayed problem free. AS far as this phone goes, i've only flashed Touch Wiz based ROMs so far and haven't ran into any problems.
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Yeah I had weird quirky problems like that on my OG EVO as well on AOSP ROMs. I ended up sticking with Sense based ROMs and pretty much stayed problem free. AS far as this phone goes, i've only flashed Touch Wiz based ROMs so far and haven't ran into any problems.
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Alright stick to my original UI thanks for the advice!
As far as OTA updates go, no, not unless the ROM itself has an OTA updater in it that updates said ROM. When rooted you should never accept a factory OTA update. I don't think it's even possible on AOSP anyway.
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As far as OTA updates go, no, not unless the ROM itself has an OTA updater in it that updates said ROM. When rooted you should never accept a factory OTA update. I don't think it's even possible on AOSP anyway.
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Thanks for the answer. Can you tell me why CM10 is all the rage? It is 4.1.2 right?
Semitoned said:
Thanks for the answer. Can you tell me why CM10 is all the rage? It is 4.1.2 right?
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Couldn't tell you, I haven't tried it yet. I'm still weary of wasting my time falling in love with an AOSP ROM, only to have problems with it on the go.
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Couldn't tell you, I haven't tried it yet. I'm still weary of wasting my time falling in love with an AOSP ROM, only to have problems with it on the go.
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Been trying root with Odin keep getting stuck on Get PIT for mapping, have tried swapping usb ports and reinstalling driver with no avail.
Semitoned said:
Been trying root with Odin keep getting stuck on Get PIT for mapping, have tried swapping usb ports and reinstalling driver with no avail.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743780
Using odin 3.04
I followed this and hadn't an issue with Odin hanging at all. Took maybe 2 min max to get everything done.
I'm a noob to the S3 development. It is configed for me a lot now. I dont want to have to reset my phone and have to do everything all over again. I have stock 4.1.2. All I want is to be able to have wifi tether and keep the stock rom. Will rooting it erase everything, and I will have to start back fresh, because when I had an HTC it did. Last question, when Sprint comes out with more stock roms as in updates, I know I would have to flash instead of doing them OTA which I know you can't do, will it restart/erase the phone when I flash those new stock roms on in the future?
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I'm a noob to the S3 development. It is configed for me a lot now. I dont want to have to reset my phone and have to do everything all over again. I have stock 4.1.2. All I want is to be able to have wifi tether and keep the stock rom. Will rooting it erase everything, and I will have to start back fresh, because when I had an HTC it did. Last question, when Sprint comes out with more stock roms as in updates, I know I would have to flash instead of doing them OTA which I know you can't do, will it restart/erase the phone when I flash those new stock roms on in the future?
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Let's tackle this question one piece at a time:
Rooting: "Getting Root" will not reset anything on your phone. You can go ahead and Root it and when you turn it back on most everything will be exactly the same as you had it before. You'll have a custom recovery (CWM or the recommended TWRP) and root access, but it won't format anything off your phone (apps, settings, etc.)
Wifi Tether: As far as I'm aware, you'll have to flash a custom ROM in order to get wifi tether working. I haven't flashed a TW ROM in a while (been sticking with AOSP 4.2.2 Roms for a bit), but I know that Freeza typically puts together a really nice ROM that is really close to stock. I don't think the one I linked has Wifi tether on it. There's also Kennyglass123, who put together The People's ROM (TPR), which I really liked and includes wifi tether. Also, with TPR, you can easily use Morphology to do all your customization.
The only thing about using custom ROMs is that the best procedure is to do a "full wipe" (factory reset, cache, dalvik) before flashing the ROM. The good news is that there are many programs available to help you get your programs/settings back up and running. I personally use Titanium Backup, but ROM Toolbox Pro also has this capability as well as a lot of other cool customization features. My only warning is that trying to restore system apps (the RED ones in Titanium Backup) can mess things up for your phone if you're switching between TW and AOSP or between versions of Android.
OTA Updates: Once you're rooted, you won't be able to flash OTA updates without going completely back to unrooted stock. The good news is that this process is relatively easy, just some Odin commands. The better news is that with the XDA community, you only have to wait a couple of days before they've come up with updated ROMs that include the OTA updates. Freeza is particularly speedy when it comes to that.
Last Note: I know flashing ROMs and "starting over" with your phone can be a daunting experience, but I've found that custom ROMs are the way to go. Nowadays, they're extremely stable, get amazing battery life, and include customizations that can really make the phone "your own." When I first got into flashing ROMs, I stayed really close to stock, but now I'm really enjoying AOSP ROMs such as Slim Bean, Liquid Smooth, and my current ROM, Carbon.
Hope I've answered your questions!
Thank You very much!!!
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To add on to the above, theres the TreveMod Wifi tether app that you can use on any rom, its specifically modded to work with the Galaxy S3
And yes, like he said, it can be overwhelming, we've all been there...but once you get started, there are some really cool roms out there, you just gotta find what it is you look for and what features you want
But trust me, you picked an awesome device to get started with
Good luck!
Oh and one last thing, do NOT flash roms/mods made for the international versions, or for other carriers. Chances are that you will either bork some functionality or brick your phone
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To add on to the above, theres the TreveMod Wifi tether app that you can use on any rom, its specifically modded to work with the Galaxy S3
And yes, like he said, it can be overwhelming, we've all been there...but once you get started, there are some really cool roms out there, you just gotta find what it is you look for and what features you want
But trust me, you picked an awesome device to get started with
Good luck!
Oh and one last thing, do NOT flash roms/mods made for the international versions, or for other carriers. Chances are that you will either bork some functionality or brick your phone
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Here is the link to TrevE's wifi app over in the Verizon SG3 Section. The late November version has been verified to be working on Sprint Stock (but rooted) MA6 roms. I haven't personally used it (don't have 4G in my area and the 3G is too slow to tether with), but others have and said that it works. It's also the app/mod that all the TW ROMs (with tethering baked in) are based off of.
Hope this helps!
-Topher
I'm stock rooted with something like 110 apps frozen with TB. I had not upgraded to MA6 simply because I didn't feel like going through the brain damage of re-freezing the 110 apps. Freezing that many apps for all intents and purposes gave me a custom ROM based on how I use the phone. Many of the apps were replaced with apps from the Google store that I liked much better than what Samsung and Sprint thought I needed and worked for me. BTW, Touch Wiz is gone, replaced with a third party launcher.
Anyway, I got the upgrade notification this morning and my inference from this thread was that if I let it try to upgrade and fail that I wouldn't get the nag about the upgrade. I had read the instructions regarding Freeza's modified MA6 for rooted phones and had even downloaded the zip file. To make a long story short, CMW 6.0.2.3 asked a couple of questions one of which was did I want to keep root? I answered yes to both and lo and behold I'm now on JB 4.1.2 and MB1. Why was I able to apply the OTA update to a rooted phone? I did not wipe cache or Dalvik cache. Everything seems to be normal and I'm sitting here asking, "What happened?" Everything that I've read says this wasn't supposed to happen.
Additionally, does anybody know what the Sprint Hotspot file name is? I have TrevE's Mod. Does it need the Sprint app to work?
If on stock recovery the OTA will go through. You could have also just installed the modem from the ROM. It also sounds like you might prefer CyanogenMod since you have everything frozen and have a launcher running.
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The thing is, no one really knows why this happens. For some the OTA flashed fine with a custom recovery installed (like for you), but then for many others as well, it failed with a status 7 error. I have no idea myself why this would happen, you would think that there would be something in common among those who failed to apply it or among those who were successful, but it doesnt seem like theres anything in the overlap region, which is really strange. People were able to flash it while on stock rooted with custom recovery, others who were on stock rooted with stock recovery had to ODIN back to pure stock to apply. So like you can see, its just a really strange fluke it seems, and I dont think anyone really knows the answer