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[Q] When is gingerbread 2.3 going to be ported to the DINC!!!?

It's been forever so if anyone knows when it will be available let me know.

You gotta be ****tin' me.

ik we have some good ones but when are we going to get a really stable one with sound and camera working?

Its been like two days and it's done
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could you link bc all the ones ive seen arent worth it yet

thewagdy said:
could you link bc all the ones ive seen arent worth it yet
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you asked when it would be available. it is available.
theres not one out that's usable on an everyday level, and don't expect one for a couple weeks. gingerbread came out less than a week ago, and the code wasn't released till friday.
as keith.mcintyre26 so delicately put it, you gotta be ****tin' me.

You gotta be ****tin' me.

You gotta be ****tn me

It alreasdy has. Check out the dev section. r2DoesInc, preludedrew, and myself are working on it. The first two have running build ATM

You gotta be ****tn me

Very delicate

builds are in motion as you made this thread, it takes some time yo. you can't just come on here and demand things to be done and making threads that probably 20 other ppl have made today....not bashing but reading and searching helps
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pete_kowalski83 said:
.not bashing but reading and searching helps
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Yeah, but I somehow don't see that concept taking off

Decay78 said:
You gotta be ****tn me
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I agree with everyone who has said this so far.
Evervolv and OMGB are actually pretty good ROMs right now; the *only* thing I'd complain about is that they get really, really hot during NORMAL usage (20 minutes of Internet browsing will jack your internal temperature up past 100 degrees). But, they're very fast and, oddly (given the heat issue), pretty good on battery life. Only real issues are GPS & camera but those will get hammered out probably before New Year's, if not soon after.
And of course, whenever the N1 gets the 2.3 OTA update, everyone will be in the Gingerbread business. So I'd just sit back, relax, and try some of the current GB ROMs, if only to prepare yourself for the awesomeness that will be the polished products of 2010/2011. XD

first I was like
keith.mcintyre26 said:
You gotta be ****tin' me.
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gonzlobo said:
You gotta be ****tin' me.
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csseale said:
You gotta be ****tn me
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You gotta be ****tn me
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ahem.
OP, stop being a tool.
the dev's are hauling arse to get this thing workin' and no it hasn't "been forever".
Geez, this is the ugly side of open source, when a mouthy little [email protected] has to start acting like something is owed to him. Do us all a favor and consider switching to WinMo.
/misplaced angry rant done

thewagdy said:
It's been forever so if anyone knows when it will be available let me know.
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When are people going to stop being stupid and asking stupid questions... this board has been here forever so if anyone knows when they will stop please let me know

Haha.
WinMo
obededom said:
first I was like
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ahem.
OP, stop being a tool.
the dev's are hauling arse to get this thing workin' and no it hasn't "been forever".
Geez, this is the ugly side of open source, when a mouthy little [email protected] has to start acting like something is owed to him. Do us all a favor and consider switching to WinMo.
/misplaced angry rant done
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Jes7er said:
you asked when it would be available. it is available.
theres not one out that's usable on an everyday level, and don't expect one for a couple weeks. gingerbread came out less than a week ago, and the code wasn't released till friday.
as keith.mcintyre26 so delicately put it, you gotta be ****tin' me.
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I've been using r2 daily. V5 now, runs amazing with no issues!
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obededom said:
first I was like
then I was like
then I was like...
ahem.
OP, stop being a tool.
the dev's are hauling arse to get this thing workin' and no it hasn't "been forever".
Geez, this is the ugly side of open source, when a mouthy little [email protected] has to start acting like something is owed to him. Do us all a favor and consider switching to WinMo.
/misplaced angry rant done
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Like
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R2 since day one. I find it the best one
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Why are some of the Inc dev's leaving XDA?

Ok. So i have been away from the form for a couple of weeks (family emergency) and I noticed that some of the dev's are packing up and going to different forums JoelZ9614, ihtfp69. What did I miss?

I'm kinda wondering that too tbh

devs should just ignore the crap and keep doing what they do.

Stuff like this makes me want to stay with CM even more. CM is my first love for custom ROMs and my favorite so far due to it's speed and features and open source model. Since they packed up quietly it just would make you speculate.
I like looking at the front page of Inc development to see what's new. We'll still be seeing new ROM on xda, just from fewer devs.

davwman said:
devs should just ignore the crap and keep doing what they do.
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They are doing what they do, just decided to do it elsewhere. A few things have happened on xda that ticked a lot of people off.
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im staying right here. doesnt matter who leaves, who stays. people need to grow the hell up and grow some thicker skin. this childish behavior HAS to stop for the good of the community. we will implode if all our devs leave. its like a joke to them. were not in third grade anymore guys. grow up, seriously......

...What exactly has happened on XDA that we're unaware of? Other than some of the people who use roms being totally immature, they will just follow to the other forums and spam that up. What's the point?

TheWhiteBandito said:
...What exactly has happened on XDA that we're unaware of? Other than some of the people who use roms being totally immature, they will just follow to the other forums and spam that up. What's the point?
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some stupid infighting like a family has.

This is funny I just nutted up on someone today for being a crybaby deuche
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watt9493 said:
some stupid infighting like a family has.
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Figures. All good things must come to an end I suppose :/

TheWhiteBandito said:
Figures. All good things must come to an end I suppose :/
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hop[efully its just a phase. wtf guys. what has become of this....

watt9493 said:
hop[efully its just a phase. wtf guys. what has become of this....
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About as well said as it gets
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donnyp1 said:
About as well said as it gets
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thank you. this was the best phone i ever had. one cause of development and two cause of service. now im regretting it for more then one reason.

watt9493 said:
thank you. this was the best phone i ever had. one cause of development and two cause of service. now im regretting it for more then one reason.
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Dont, the phone is still awesone, and imo the 2-3 best devs still here.
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watt9493 said:
hop[efully its just a phase. wtf guys. what has become of this....
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It will blow over, the forums here haven't had a real blow up in awhile now, so it was just a matter of time really.
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I thought I would stick with this phone way past my contract because of the development but I might have to second guess that if the developers become too hard to locate . Like they say " There is a beginning to every end "

donnyp1 said:
Dont, the phone is still awesone, and imo the 2-3 best devs still here.
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It will blow over, the forums here haven't had a real blow up in awhile now, so it was just a matter of time really.
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if i could get my hardware fixed id be okay, but i digress. and i hope it blows over, cause i need someone to learn from!

I liked the way xda had everything in one big forum.
Now theres going to be all these different forums for the same purpose.
*sigh
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Now its wildstang! [email protected]#$!
Change roms like I change underwear.

the children need to leave and problem would be solved. I cant believe the dinc forum has become this.

HTC Desire HD not getting ICS. Does this bode well for us?

Thoughts? I'm thinking we won't get it because of the 768mb of ram.

nyccharlie said:
Thoughts? I'm thinking we won't get it because of the 768mb of ram.
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Aaaahh Sh*te!

nyccharlie said:
Thoughts? I'm thinking we won't get it because of the 768mb of ram.
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source on that?

Bad source information, from what's been discussed in other threads.
Have a look in the HTC Desire HD section and read the hubbub there.
So far as I can see there is no truth to this rumor. Mods are working overtime killing all the threads about it.
-CM7 on DInc2

I doubt we'll be affected since the Incredible S and the Chinese version of our phone already got ICS.
But this is Verizon, so I guess there is a ever so slight possibility of our phone not getting the update.
If this does happen, then..... Well, I'd rather not discuss it.
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here is the source.It is from Telus

phonetool said:
Bad source information, from what's been discussed in other threads.
Have a look in the HTC Desire HD section and read the hubbub there.
So far as I can see there is no truth to this rumor. Mods are working overtime killing all the threads about it.
-CM7 on DInc2
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Anytime now would be a good time then, chaps (looking at Mr. Highway and juzz86)
Give it a proper Viking Burial!!
nyccharlie said:
here is the source.It is from Telus
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Hold on just a second! oooh... o.o Err.. so now what?

litetaker said:
Anytime now would be a good time then, chaps (looking at Mr. Highway and juzz86)
Give it a proper Viking Burial!!
Hold on just a second! oooh... o.o Err.. so now what?
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I've been running ics for months now...and to be honest...condemned souls version...is pretty much flawless..I haven't had a single issue with it and the camera works too
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Only the Telus version is not receiving the ICS update. The International version is unaffected at this stage.
Source

juzz86 said:
Only the Telus version is not receiving the ICS update. The International version is unaffected at this stage.
Source
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All the more reason for us to get worried. Similar to Telus, it is possible that VZW screws us over and says, sorry, NO OTA ICS for you, just because we couldn't make it work with all our god damn, useless and pointless bloatware... Which no one in the world uses.. Toodles. And oh, therefore no kernel source

litetaker said:
All the more reason for us to get worried. Similar to Telus, it is possible that VZW screws us over and says, sorry, NO OTA ICS for you, just because we couldn't make it work with all our god damn, useless and pointless bloatware... Which no one in the world uses.. Toodles. And oh, therefore no kernel source
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True. I wouldn't put it past Verizon to do exactly that at all.

Verizon - dinc 2 wont get update
Good Guy at HTC- woops, I just clicked the release source button
Yeaaaa
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litetaker said:
Anytime now would be a good time then, chaps (looking at Mr. Highway and juzz86)
Give it a proper Viking Burial!!
Hold on just a second! oooh... o.o Err.. so now what?
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Lol, na you guys are fine. I never have issues with yall. *thank God*

HTC did deny the rumors though, read it last night. Either Android police or android Central said it

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HTC did deny the rumors though, read it last night. Either Android police or android Central said it
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Sad news :
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
Read the update, HTC has cancel the update for Desire HD
* After extensive testing, we’ve determined that the current version of HTC Sense with Android provides customers with the best experience on the HTC Desire HD. When we consider new versions of software, we weigh a number of factors, but ultimately the customer experience on the product is the deciding factor. We apologize for any confusion this change may have caused our customers.

Cyanogenmod devs considering dropping support for GS3

LINK: http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-tv-2/samsung-what-did-we-do-to-make-you-hate-us-xda-developer-tv/
I Guess its time to move to SONY Devices.

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LINK: http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-tv-2/samsung-what-did-we-do-to-make-you-hate-us-xda-developer-tv/
I Guess its time to move to SONY Devices.
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Way to completely misunderstand. Those are Exynos devices. We have Qualcomm devices.

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Way to completely misunderstand. Those are Exynos devices. We have Qualcomm devices.
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This.
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So what? Xda community and those who use cyanogenmod are barely 1% of sammy's market share
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lazarat said:
So what? Xda community and those who use cyanogenmod are barely 1% of sammy's market share
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Don't be ignorant now. They are the 99% of XDA AOSP Development.

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Don't be ignorant now. They are the 99% of XDA AOSP Development.
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Haha funny kid. Of sammy's market share i said. Yes iknow all xda goes crazy about cyanogenmod and i also think they used to be great but in my opinion this is just a tactic of theirs to get more donations. That is their new motto.
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Haha funny kid. Of sammy's market share i said. Yes iknow all xda goes crazy about cyanogenmod and i also think they used to be great but in my opinion this is just a tactic of theirs to get more donations. That is their new motto.
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Or maybe you could try and do some reading before you post? No amount of donations will improve this situation. Exynos and the Mali GPU have documentation that rivals that of an IKEA instruction booklet.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
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Or maybe you could try and do some reading before you post? No amount of donations will improve this situation. Exynos and the Mali GPU have documentation that rivals that of an IKEA instruction booklet.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
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Oh hi there you back from the cave lol? Whatever idc. At the current level that touchwiz is i find cyanogenmod a holdback cuz it misses many features. Couple of years ago when manufacturers' os sucked then yes cyanogenmod was #1 but things have changed now. Probably cave people are 2 years behind and cannot realize it.
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Oh hi there you back from the cave lol? Whatever idc. At the current level that touchwiz is i find cyanogenmod a holdback cuz it misses many features. Couple of years ago when manufacturers' os sucked then yes cyanogenmod was #1 but things have changed now. Probably cave people are 2 years behind and cannot realize it.
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Sometimes I wish I could just understand why you think you are so funny.
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Who cares, we have s4 chips
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BaconStep said:
This.
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+1
Worry about something, else
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joshnichols189 said:
Sometimes I wish I could just understand why you think you are so funny.
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Your problem is your farfetched, outlandish assumption that laz is overly full of himself.
However you saying that he think he is so funny" says a bit about your own insecurity/ but more so immaturity.
Especially in his last post there was nothing funny about it, there were facts and opinions..
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Hey guys, nothing against ANY of you, but this is that point where everyone should just stop posting lest it get out of hand and we get more locked threads and banned/suspended members.
No one ever leaves these things happy, so just leave it now, please.
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It may not affect us now but I'm sure in the future all of samsung's devices will contain their exynos chips.

I'm curious if it would affect the next nexus, seeing that is supposed to be a developer phone I don't think it would but I'm guessing Samsung is making the next one

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Oh hi there you back from the cave lol? Whatever idc. At the current level that touchwiz is i find cyanogenmod a holdback cuz it misses many features. Couple of years ago when manufacturers' os sucked then yes cyanogenmod was #1 but things have changed now. Probably cave people are 2 years behind and cannot realize it.
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Your problem is your farfetched, outlandish assumption that laz is overly full of himself.
However you saying that he think he is so funny" says a bit about your own insecurity/ but more so immaturity.
Especially in his last post there was nothing funny about it, there were facts and opinions..
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Yes the above post is overflowing with factual statements. You probably think Codeworkx is soliciting donations and this is all a ploy right? There is no helping these devices save Samsung stepping up. No amount of money wikl magically document Exynos and the Mali GPU.
And my bad, I forgot that calling someone a caveman isn't an immature attempt to be funny.. but then again it's hard for me to argue with all of the facts about soliciting donations!
I'll take Doc's advice and let you two have your little conspiracy theory.
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Yes the above post is overflowing with factual statements. You probably think Codeworkx is soliciting donations and this is all a ploy right? There is no helping these devices save Samsung stepping up. No amount of money wikl magically document Exynos and the Mali GPU.
And my bad, I forgot that calling someone a caveman isn't an immature attempt to be funny.. but then again it's hard for me to argue with all of the facts about soliciting donations!
I'll take Doc's advice and let you two have your little conspiracy theory.
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Dude you should learn to accept different opinions otherwise life gets boring. There is no need u to become cyankgenmod's lawyer because they do not need one. The facts regard my first post and you like it or not that is the truth. Sammy sold 20 million units of this device. Go to the international forum of the s3 and lets say you find 2000 users on that forum. Now do the math, how many percent of the overall share are these users? And that is what i am telling you even if theh stop supporting the galaxy still sammy does not get hurt at all. I said cyanogenmod was great two years ago when the android os was not so developed but now they lack ots of features. And i can give you many examples of what features they lack. Camera?svoice?smart stay? Etc etc. What are your arguments other than attacking me and not the points i make? I do not use most of those features sammy included this time but still that can make somebody think well maybe this cyanogenmod is getting lil bit behind. That is not an attack to cyanogenmod cuz i currently am using codename rom and it is great but for most part of those 20million gs3 owners cyanogenmod is not seen as u see it=god.
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Man. I really hope cyanogen or his team don't come and read this thread.. They've put in a hell of a lot of work for this device, they deserve nothing but thanks, we can't forget all of the great work that has stemmed from their work either... Smh
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I can agree with the statements regarding "missing features" when comparing CM to TW. There are some things that TW has that are very nice, and become features you start to depend on as part of a great user experience.
However, CM10 has allowed me to run Jelly Bean as a reliable DD and use Google Now which completely changes the game for me. Yes, TW will update soon but the point is Cm did it already. That's just a small piece of the picture - CM has provided us with support for our phones for YEARS, and are a HUGE driving force in the Android community.
I think it would be wise for CM to start looking at adding more unique features to their builds, things TW doesn't have. But can they compete with Samsung on the highest level? Maybe.. maybe not. Samsung has really stepped it up with TW, and I applaud them for that. However I am a big fan of Android and this whole Tizen move that Samsung is doing really irritates me. Samsung is just like any other conglomerate, they want to hold all the cards when everything is said and done. Which means they have to eliminate Android to build their OWN ecosystem, and don't think they aren't. Samsung has their own movies to sell. They don't want you buying them from the Play Store.
I'm not too fond of Samsung's long term goals. They do make some of the best phones in the world, no doubt about that.. but I am an Android fan, a Google fan, first.
Which is why I see myself back on a Nexus at some point in the future.. probably whatever the best Nexus is after I get sick of the Note 2 (hey, I DID say they make some great phones..)
But losing CM support would definitely suck.. however I can't say I blame them

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I can agree with the statements regarding "missing features" when comparing CM to TW. There are some things that TW has that are very nice, and become features you start to depend on as part of a great user experience.
However, CM10 has allowed me to run Jelly Bean as a reliable DD and use Google Now which completely changes the game for me. Yes, TW will update soon but the point is Cm did it already. That's just a small piece of the picture - CM has provided us with support for our phones for YEARS, and are a HUGE driving force in the Android community.
I think it would be wise for CM to start looking at adding more unique features to their builds, things TW doesn't have. But can they compete with Samsung on the highest level? Maybe.. maybe not. Samsung has really stepped it up with TW, and I applaud them for that. However I am a big fan of Android and this whole Tizen move that Samsung is doing really irritates me. Samsung is just like any other conglomerate, they want to hold all the cards when everything is said and done. Which means they have to eliminate Android to build their OWN ecosystem, and don't think they aren't. Samsung has their own movies to sell. They don't want you buying them from the Play Store.
I'm not too fond of Samsung's long term goals. They do make some of the best phones in the world, no doubt about that.. but I am an Android fan, a Google fan, first.
Which is why I see myself back on a Nexus at some point in the future.. probably whatever the best Nexus is after I get sick of the Note 2 (hey, I DID say they make some great phones..)
But losing CM support would definitely suck.. however I can't say I blame them
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Very nicely put. I definitely agree

Are there devs getting closer to root/unlock?

I don't want to sound impatient or anything because I'm not I love my htc one as is but am just curious if any devs are getting closer to a unlock or root without the s-off tool. I've seen that there is a large bounty right now so I feel there should be devs at least trying to figure out something but it seems like I'm not seeing much info. anywhere and am only seeing people using s-off cards and stuff and I can't send my phone off. Any ideas?

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I don't want to sound impatient or anything because I'm not I love my htc one as is but am just curious if any devs are getting closer to a unlock or root without the s-off tool. I've seen that there is a large bounty right now so I feel there should be devs at least trying to figure out something but it seems like I'm not seeing much info. anywhere and am only seeing people using s-off cards and stuff and I can't send my phone off. Any ideas?
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It has barely been a month. It's going to take awhile. If you aren't happy running stock on a phone don't buy it brotha.

cstrife999 said:
It has barely been a month. It's going to take awhile. If you aren't happy running stock on a phone don't buy it brotha.
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Like I said I'm just curious, it's great stock!

There are multiple posts scattered here and there that hint/speculate that an exploit has been found and the devs are waiting on 4.3.
If you don't want to wait then send your phone off for S-Off, but please don't rush the devs. The exploit will come when it comes.
Can we lock this yet?

Just hold on tight, it will be here soon!
There is an exploit floating around, but it needs work.

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Just hold on tight, it will be here soon!
There is an exploit floating around, but it needs work.
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You know this how?
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123421342 said:
You know this how?
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I am not allowed to say, but trust me; and exploit is being worked on.

Alright thanks for the info.!

adrenalinemotion said:
There are multiple posts scattered here and there that hint/speculate that an exploit has been found and the devs are waiting on 4.3.
If you don't want to wait then send your phone off for S-Off, but please don't rush the devs. The exploit will come when it comes.
Can we lock this yet?
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The OP is not rushing the devs, he's just curious if they are getting close.

dspcap said:
The OP is not rushing the devs, he's just curious if they are getting close.
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Yea but in all reality there are multiple threads about this... A simple search would provide the answers.
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Why would DEVs who are in a race to get a bounty TELL anyone how far they are?

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Why would DEVs who are in a race to get a bounty TELL anyone how far they are?
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Exactly why bounties are a horrible idea IMHO. Donating for people's efforts is one thing, but bounties are almost always counterproductive unless someone already has an exploit that they don't want to burn.

Its so funny after leaving iOS for my Gnex almost 2 years ago, I never thought I would be reading about "burning exploits" and "waiting for updates to release tools".
Oh well, the good thing about Android is, even "locked down" android is still amazing! The sexy hardware and looks of the phone take the sting out of waiting also haha
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AllenConder said:
Its so funny after leaving iOS for my Gnex almost 2 years ago, I never thought I would be reading about "burning exploits" and "waiting for updates to release tools".
Oh well, the good thing about Android is, even "locked down" android is still amazing! The sexy hardware and looks of the phone take the sting out of waiting also haha
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Why? Not "burning" exploits is a damn good idea. What happens when, lets say, the exploit was released now and then HTC took an extra week to patch it? Like getting insurance or warranty replacements? Too bad we wasted the exploit. Look what happened with the DNA and 2.04. It is literally the best idea to wait until the OTA comes out. This way, the majority of users get s-off and HTC will have a harder time patching it.

AllenConder said:
Its so funny after leaving iOS for my Gnex almost 2 years ago, I never thought I would be reading about "burning exploits" and "waiting for updates to release tools".
Oh well, the good thing about Android is, even "locked down" android is still amazing! The sexy hardware and looks of the phone take the sting out of waiting also haha
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My previous phone was the iPhone 4S and I never thought I would have to worry about exploits and etc ever again lol

123421342 said:
Why? Not "burning" exploits is a damn good idea. What happens when, lets say, the exploit was released now and then HTC took an extra week to patch it? Like getting insurance or warranty replacements? Too bad we wasted the exploit. Look what happened with the DNA and 2.04. It is literally the best idea to wait until the OTA comes out. This way, the majority of users get s-off and HTC will have a harder time patching it.
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i remember picking the dna up in april and it immediatly took the update for 2.04 then it took the 2.06 one. only a couple months went by and they came out with moonshine on linux then a window's version came out. i returned my phone back to stock to get 4g back and then i used the window's way. it is great to wait for the ota like you said so many more android's can get unlocked or s-off!!! :good:

123421342 said:
Why? Not "burning" exploits is a damn good idea. What happens when, lets say, the exploit was released now and then HTC took an extra week to patch it? Like getting insurance or warranty replacements? Too bad we wasted the exploit. Look what happened with the DNA and 2.04. It is literally the best idea to wait until the OTA comes out. This way, the majority of users get s-off and HTC will have a harder time patching it.
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I think you misunderstood me. I was just making the comparison from iOS to carrier locked Android.
I completely understand why and how this is all done, but thanks for explaining to those that don't
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megaorange1 said:
My previous phone was the iPhone 4S and I never thought I would have to worry about exploits and etc ever again lol
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Welcome to VZW asshattery, it's amazing how the AT&T and TMo owners don't have to deal with this nonsense
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kayone73 said:
Welcome to VZW asshattery, it's amazing how the AT&T and TMo owners don't have to deal with this nonsense
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Att locks most boot loaders anyway
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123421342 said:
Att locks most boot loaders anyway
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Of course, but at least there is a ready unlock solution, hopefully the devs will figure out the VZW obstacle soon
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