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So I know it obviously works on AT&T network but will it work on Verizon, T-Mobile or sprint?
Tmo only gets edge for me. Wondering if its compatible on other networks. Any workarounds I'm missing?
Have a feeling I'm stuck to att if I want 3g 4g... =[
That's correct. Only T-Mobile uses the GSM network that AT&T uses, but they use them on different bands so the high-speed data is typically only going to work on one network or the other. Sprint uses EVDO and Verizon uses CDMA (if I remember correctly), so phones for each of those networks will ONLY work on that network.
I tested my unlocked Nitro on an H20 wireless sim (which just piggybacks ATT) and it worked fine. The icon was even SAYING. I had 4G. A lot of 3rd party wireless companies are still using att technically, but great as a cheaper data alternative that avoid contracts.
I plan on using this phone off contract with a carrier like that once my Verizon deal expires in February.
Hope that helps.
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That's correct. Only T-Mobile uses the GSM network that AT&T uses, but they use them on different bands so the high-speed data is typically only going to work on one network or the other. Sprint uses EVDO and Verizon uses CDMA (if I remember correctly), so phones for each of those networks will ONLY work on that network.
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Evdo is there 3g. Sprint and Verizon are both cdma
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Evdo is there 3g. Sprint and Verizon are both cdma
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Does anybody notice that Verizon is now using a Sim card, just like AT&T and T-Mobile? That's because their LTE network runs on the Sim Card and not built into the phone, like CDMA...
So technically, yes, you may be able to insert a verizon LTE card into your phone, and it might work, but you most definitely won't get their LTE connection.
You know what, I should try this at work tomorrow. My coworker has a Rezound. we can switch Sims and see if it works on both phones.
Make sure you have the proper LTE APN settings for each carrier or you won't see LTE or squat!
LOL!! I forgot about that. thx Repherb.
Edit: this method works for everyone it seems. SOME HAVE REPORTED SLOWER T-MOBILE DATA SPEEDS AFTER APLLYING THIS UNLOCK. This has only been reported a few times and it seems like flukes. I however, nor the OP in the linked thread are responsible for wjat YOU chose to do to your device. You have been warned.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34661189
Unlock for 7105 from diagnostic screen.
Trying it now but dont have a sim to check with. Well I have my old verizon one but dont know if it will work.
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Unlock for 7105 from diagnostic screen.
Trying it now but dont have a sim to check with. Well I have my old verizon one but dont know if it will work.
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What was the default value of "Perso SHA256 "....I changed mine to off but forgot to check the original value...original value should be in Perso SHA256 Flag info
Seemed to work with verizon sim. No longer get the input sim unlock number, but obviously no signal.
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What was the default value of "Perso SHA256 "....I changed mine to off but forgot to check the original value...original value should be in Perso SHA256 Flag info
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Not sure already changed mine. I assume [1] or on
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Seemed to work with verizon sim. No longer get the input sim unlock number, but obviously no signal.
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Phone wont even get GSM signal ? I thought this phone does support 1900 Mhz which verizon also uses.
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Phone wont even get GSM signal ? I thought this phone does support 1900 Mhz which verizon also uses.
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It got a signal. But could not pick up carrier or anything just had signal and said searching in notification bar.
But verizon is CDMA so it did not supprise me.
I see that the LTE radio bands are in there, no surprise there. But I also see WCDMA radio bands too. Does that mean that our Galaxy Note 2 have WCDMA radio too? Or is this just an firmware that Samsung uses across all Galaxy Note 2 devices?
I need to try this I have a at&t sim card.
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I see that the LTE radio bands are in there, no surprise there. But I also see WCDMA radio bands too. Does that mean that our Galaxy Note 2 have WCDMA radio too? Or is this just an firmware that Samsung uses across all Galaxy Note 2 devices?
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I think we have CDMA also....not that it does much for us as verizon and sprint require the imei to be loaded into their systems.
WCDMA != CDMA by the way. WCDMA is 3G/4G GSM (aka UMTS)
CDMA is a competitor to GSM. It is used by mainly North American and Japanese/Chinese cell phone companies.
I know Verizon and Sprint in the US and AU in Japan use CDMA. Most of the world uses GSM.
All though thinking about it while we may have the CDMA radio, assuming it is the same chip as the GSM and LTE radio then they may have just not sokdered the connections. Seen that before with FM radios built into the bluetooth chip on the Atrix 4G
Which of the bands are our 4G?
Love learning.
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Which of the bands are our 4G?
Love learning.
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Our 4G is UMTS band 4 (1700/2100) same as our 3G. We dont have LTE yet so no *true* 4G
Sweet.
Thank you.
No problems. This kinda stuff is my hobby. Maybe some day I can get a job at a cell phone company as a technician or something.
I can confirm this works, but I could not get data. I got signal and a carrier name with both an AT&T sim and a Straight Talk (AT&T) sim. It would not load APNs, and I don't have the APN for regular AT&T so I tried with the Straight Talk, put in their APN and still got no data. Neither sim is active currently. It did allow me to call 611 on both sims.
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I can confirm this works, but I could not get data. I got signal and a carrier name with both an AT&T sim and a Straight Talk (AT&T) sim. It would not load APNs, and I don't have the APN for regular AT&T so I tried with the Straight Talk, put in their APN and still got no data. Neither sim is active currently. It did allow me to call 611 on both sims.
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If neither sim is active then I dont think it will allow data. Not sure though.
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I can confirm this works, but I could not get data. I got signal and a carrier name with both an AT&T sim and a Straight Talk (AT&T) sim. It would not load APNs, and I don't have the APN for regular AT&T so I tried with the Straight Talk, put in their APN and still got no data. Neither sim is active currently. It did allow me to call 611 on both sims.
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Just found my roommates active AT&T sim, tried it, and still no data. I put in the APN found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684711...
Phone calls work just fine...
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Just found my roommates active AT&T sim, tried it, and still no data. I put in the APN found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684711...
Phone calls work just fine...
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Hum...I need to get my hands on a microSIM. I have some experience playing with APNs from my days in Japan.
It didnt work for me
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Thank you for sharing. It works for me. I tried it with my brother att sim. I was able to make and receive phone call with no problem.
Hey guys! I brought my international GT-N7105 Note II LTE model from Asia and bought that unlimited cheap 30 dollar plan. I checked the towers and my area does have those refarmed 1900MHz towers from their twitter. Anyhow, first i just thought it was my house and I have drove from pasadena-los angeles - Irvine - Orange County and have yet to see ANY 3G/H/H+ signals! Always stuck on the E (2G). First I thought it was the SIM problem so I put that SIM to an iPHONE4 and guess what?! There is the T-Mobile 3G right on that upper left hand corner and speeds are decent. Anywhere from 1.5mbps-6mbps. I'm sure it can go higher but looking at that dinky screen is already enough for my eyes! Is there some specific settings I should be doing? Somehow it's NOT locking to the 3G towers from my N7105. I am planning to get Straight Talk's 45 dollar deal at Walmart and choose the ATT since it's got better coverage from what I hear. Thanks for the help in advance and Happy Holidays everybody!!!
I don't think the 7105 has 1900 band, I have 7100 and I get 3G coverage.
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I don't think the 7105 has 1900 band, I have 7100 and I get 3G coverage.
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Thanks for the reply but according to this: http://www.smartone.com/jsp/phone/english/detail_v12.jsp?id=2553
It should have 1900MHz just like the N7100 except there's LTE which won't work. There's absolutely no excuse for it NOT to have 3G! This stinks and is frustrating!
I see that it has 1900 band but under GSM, when looking at 3G bands it has HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100 - N7105 vs N7100 having HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
Dont know if it makes any difference but thats why I steered away from the LTE version.
Try this go into service mode: *#197328640# Debug screen Phone Control Network Control & Band Selection. Check if you can enable or see if you have the 1900 band under WCDMA. Might have to go under Combi Bands and select the desired bands.
Just flowing up if it worked out for u or not?
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Bumping this since the op didn't respond. I am having the same trouble and I attempted the fix you provided and found that my N7105 lacks the "combi bands"
I mistakenly purchased this phone for pre-paid here in America (should have gotten the n7100) and it seems that Straight Talk doesn't have AT&T cards anymore and I'm stuck on T-Mobile's EDGE service
I have the verizon model and use it with tmobile
So the last two weeks have been the most frustratying and nerve racking weeks ever as I have tried to get tmobile service to work well with the verizon model i have. And although I am definately still irritated, i have to say that I do get 3G and HSDPA on mine, just not anywhere near my house. This has driven me crazy and until today I assumed it was my phone and the lack of certain bands howev er after purchasing a Tmobile 4G hotspot and activating it on a new 300mb plan just to see how well it works, I have found that it was never my phone that sucked at my hopuse, its Tmobiles service that sucks!. BUT... to get the best consistant coverage with the Tmobile sim in my Verizon model I did have to experiment with the APNs quite a bit, and I also upgraded the modem to the newest one released . For anyone tryinbg to do thius with the verizon model, make sure your APN for T-Mobile US or T-Mobile Data (I personally have started using it as T-Mobile Data) has "None" typed in for the username and for APN if your using LTE device type in "fast.tmobile.com" instead of the epc.tmobile...... or whatever it is. Does anyone know if flashing a modem or radio or even just the rom from the tmobile section would help at all? Or would it just **** up the phone..
Despite not getting 3g (since I lack the appropriate physical antenna apparently) I get way better cover with T-Mobile (through Straight Talk) I have to say compared to Verizon. Maybe my Note 2 is much better than my old Thunderbolt or maybe T-Mobile is just a bit better. Nevertheless every building at my university is made of reinforced concrete so you'd be hard pressed to get any reception in the classrooms. I find in places I had no service I have service, and places I had some service I have great service now.
Back on topic though:
I can get the 1900mhz through GSM but that isn't the same and my phone lacks whatever that Combi Bands thing is. So I don't know if it is a lost cause or not. I just figured I'd bring this back up since the OP never responded and I am in the same boat as they are (were?). Maybe a solution can be found or just "it ain't gonna work."
Just following up I have returned my N7105 in favor of a N7100 and get great H+ and 3G through T-Mobile/Straight Talk.
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Bumping this since the op didn't respond. I am having the same trouble and I attempted the fix you provided and found that my N7105 lacks the "combi bands"
I mistakenly purchased this phone for pre-paid here in America (should have gotten the n7100) and it seems that Straight Talk doesn't have AT&T cards anymore and I'm stuck on T-Mobile's EDGE service
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Fwiw, net10 is basically the same as straight talk. When you buy the $15 simcard pack from bestbuy for net10, it comes with 3 different sim cards in it. One of them is a micro sim that fits in the note2 and runs on at&t's network.
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Fwiw, net10 is basically the same as straight talk. When you buy the $15 simcard pack from bestbuy for net10, it comes with 3 different sim cards in it. One of them is a micro sim that fits in the note2 and runs on at&t's network.
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What max speed will be get in using Net10 on ATT sim? anyone checked?
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What max speed will be get in using Net10 on ATT sim? anyone checked?
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i got 7mbps on net10 with n7105.
hi brothers i have SG note2 GT-I7105T LTE and it work only on 2G Band when i switch to 3G(WCDMA) mode or LTE it show "Emergency Call" but when switch to 2G(GSM) it work fine so what can i do ? and please developers explain me this problem and how to solve i try Z3X Box but it not support this variant
please help me and thanx in advance
I've searched and see a lot of info related to using the Sprint HTC One on Verizon's network. Voice should work over CDMA but I haven't found any info about changing SIM. My question is if I use a Verizon SIM instead of the Sprint one will it work on Verizon's LTE network?
Thanks,
I would be suprised if this worked. Verizon's LTE is on 700mhz spectrum. I doubt a Sprint htc one is tuned for that.
I think if we had unlock and root and could modify the phone, parts of the phone could work on Verizon. However, I believe you would have an uphill battle in getting Verizon to activate a Sprint device in their network.
rethinking this, I don't think it will work at all. Sprint isn't beholden to the same rules as Verizon for using the 700 block spectrum. They are free to lockout verizon LTE.
Besides, why would you want to use a sprint phone on verizon network? If you don't have sprint signal, it will roam to verizon anyways.
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rethinking this, I don't think it will work at all. Sprint isn't beholden to the same rules as Verizon for using the 700 block spectrum. They are free to lockout verizon LTE.
Besides, why would you want to use a sprint phone on verizon network? If you don't have sprint signal, it will roam to verizon anyways.
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Actually, I'm pretty sure the only LTE band supported by Sprint's One is 1900Mhz so its not possible at all, let alone to lock it out.
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Actually, I'm pretty sure the only LTE band supported by Sprint's One is 1900Mhz so its not possible at all, let alone to lock it out.
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Thanks, Figures! Too bad, the reason I wanted to use Sprint's One is "RED" .... it really is nice looking
Verizon's network runs on an ESN white-list. If the ESN of the device doesn't match up with their database the phone is going to be rejected no matter what you do. The only way around that is to do (highly illegal) ESN cloning.
Hi,
I am thinking about moving my Galaxy S4 and moto RAZR from Verizon wireless to iwireless (a t-mobile affiliate). I understand that I need to unlock my phone but I am unable to find out if I move it to iwireless if I will still have 4G data. The iwireless sales rep said that I will still have voice and 2.5G service but couldn't tell me if I would still have 4G.
I was looking at this table I found on a site explaining how to unlock the phone but I don't know enough about the subject to make an informed decision.
Samsung Galaxy S4
Can someone confirm whether or not my Verizon S4 or RAZR can be unlocked to work with the iwireless/t-mobile 4G network?
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Hi,
I am thinking about moving my Galaxy S4 and moto RAZR from Verizon wireless to iwireless (a t-mobile affiliate). I understand that I need to unlock my phone but I am unable to find out if I move it to iwireless if I will still have 4G data. The iwireless sales rep said that I will still have voice and 2.5G service but couldn't tell me if I would still have 4G.
I was looking at this table I found on a site explaining how to unlock the phone but I don't know enough about the subject to make an informed decision.
Samsung Galaxy S4
Can someone confirm whether or not my Verizon S4 or RAZR can be unlocked to work with the iwireless/t-mobile 4G network?
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It seems as though your grasp of the subject is strong enough to know that it might work as you'd like - and it might not. You need to call back and ask to speak to a CSR that actually knows what bands their service works on so they can give you accurate information. That's kind of their job...
Also -
Verizon LTE operates on Band 13 while T-Mob operates on Band 17, both of which carry completely different spectrums; this means no LTE on either of your unlocked phones.There's a slim possibility that you will get intermittent 3G but the most likely scenario is that you will get talk, text and 2G / 2.5G only.
Band 17? My Verizon branded S4 is getting T-Mobile LTE. I'm fairly sure its on band 4.
T-mobile is band 4 which is 1700/2100 mhz. The Verizon s4 is not capable of 1700mhz. But if you are getting 4G it may be because your area is using 2100 mhz. I am specifically moving to iwireless and I was told they use the 1700 mhz band.
Bsliv, how did you unlock you phone?
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Bsliv, how did you unlock you phone?
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Many Verizon phones are sim unlocked, so it's most likely unlocked as well
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Many Verizon phones are sim unlocked, so it's most likely unlocked as well
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Yes, I think all Verizon LTE capable phones are unlocked.
The I545 (Verizon S4) can receive LTE on band 4. T-Mobile serves LTE on band 4. The coincidence works well.
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Yes, I think all Verizon LTE capable phones are unlocked.
The I545 (Verizon S4) supports LTE on band 4. T-Mobile serves LTE on band 4. The coincidence works well.
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My RAZR MAXX HD definitely wasn't SIM unlocked... For the life of me I couldn't get it to work when I moved to ATT from Verizon... Not even GSM would work.
I just need to get some clarification from you guys. Are your VZW phones bought in the US and being in the US on t-mobile's or iwireless's 4g network. Because after I made the first post I went to the phone unlocking place in my local mall and talked to there techs, they said that the VZW S4 will not get 4g. I have also been doing extensive searches online and keep finding half saying it will work and half saying it won't. I have a feeling that the ones that work are working outside of the US as I found posts saying as such.
I read some where that the razr you had to flash the radio FW to get GSM to work properly.
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I got my vzw S4 off craigslist but 99% sure it was purchased in the USA. I'm on T-Mobile's $50/mo plan.
Verizon's LTE phones are sim unlocked due to an agreement with the FCC when vzw purchased some bandwidth.
I think there was an update around 03/2014 that enabled band 4 on the I545. Then had to make some apn changes and tell the modem to use gsm/lte on band 4.
The one quirk I have is it will say "no service" after a reboot and until I make or receive a voice call. Then I get the "T-Mobile" instead of "no service" and things work as they should.
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I got my vzw S4 off craigslist but 99% sure it was purchased in the USA. I'm on T-Mobile's $50/mo plan.
Verizon's LTE phones are sim unlocked due to an agreement with the FCC when vzw purchased some bandwidth.
I think there was an update around 03/2014 that enabled band 4 on the I545. Then had to make some apn changes and tell the modem to use gsm/lte on band 4.
The one quirk I have is it will say "no service" after a reboot and until I make or receive a voice call. Then I get the "T-Mobile" instead of "no service" and things work as they should.
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I'll have to go to iwireless and have one of the tech put a SIM card in my s4 and razr to give it a try.
The only options I have for the network mode on my s4 is
Global, LTE/CDMA, and GSM/UMTS. Can you post you settings?
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I was just at iwireless today and tested my phone with their network and was unable to get it to work. iwireless is a t-mobile affiliate but they do not use 4G LTE in my area. Their system runs on a 3.8G 1700MHz which the VZW S4 does not have. I am told that they will be starting to switch all the 2G radios in the area to 4G LTE later this year, which should work with my VZW S4. So I am just going to have to wait till the end of the year and go back and test it again.
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My RAZR MAXX HD definitely wasn't SIM unlocked... For the life of me I couldn't get it to work when I moved to ATT from Verizon... Not even GSM would work.
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That phone was before VZW bought the band 4 spectrum and cut the deal with the FCC. All VZW LTE phones are SIM unlocked. Any AWS capable VZW phone is SIM unlocked and can use LTE on band 4. The S4 got it with an update last year.
I am probably going to do the $30 plan soon and plan to use my VZW S4. I am not going to port my number right away in case the service in my area sucks (doubtful, live in DFW in dense surburbia).
I went out off town this weekend and went to a t-mobile store and was able to get 4g service after adding the correct APN. But it is too bad that iwireless that is in my area does not use that band yet, they are staring to upgrade to that band later this year. Until then my s4 will only get edge service.
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I was able to get H+ on my s4 from Verizon to tmobile by changing the network mode to global and the App to fast.T-mobile.com
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With the announcement of the T Mobile $100 2 line unlimited everything, I'm also interested in bringing my Verizon S4 MDK boot loader phone to T Mobile, but want to do my research first-- is it as simple as signing up for T Mobile and getting one of their SIMs and then-- would I be able to flash any of the ROMs in the S4 T Mobile Dev forum or is the T Mobile S4 a completely different device? Any caveats? Would I have to LokiDoki after the flash? Would I need to flash a T Mobile specific radio too (currently on i545vrufnk1)? Or is that all just overcomplicating things? Would i be able to just adjust the APNs on my current ROM after inserting a T Mobile SIM?
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Quick reply to my post and for anyone else interested-- there's a post here that talks about using a 4.4.2 T-Mobile ROM by Fenny on the a Verizon S4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57453019 I've tried it and LTE works great, MMS works properly, phone calls work as well. I'm on the Verizon i545vruamdk bootloader and Verizon i545vrufnk1 radio. The ROM is a T-Mobile m919uvufnb4 by Fenny.
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