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Hi i'm new to the forum and am buying My first android tomorrow...
Just wanted suggestions on what precautions or apps i should install to make full use of the device.
Thanks in advance
Wow. No one bothered to answer or even comment? How indifferent people have become. So have you got your Arc and have you got the answer to your questions? Im sure you have by now... good luck anyway.
Well it's hard to answer such question to a person buying THE FIRST Android phone. This man didn't even share it's experience on smartphones. So what to do? Paste Manual here?
the fisrt thing you do after you get your arc is to show it off!!!
Then have fun
hey i am also going to buy a new one
so u can tell me some precautionary steps?
i have a bit of knowledge in android stuff.....so no need to paste whole manual just tell the short steps...i mean what kind of backup b4 modding etc...........
If you've had an x10 before then pretty straightforward, except the buttons... Root it, remove bloatware and take it from there.
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@sinkster :- i donot have x10 before..........
Well sum ppl dont need a smartphone background to learn what to put in your new phones...
By the way i have done way more than i had thought with my phone includiing rooting it to 2.3.3 and have more than 65 apps running with 3 different launchers as well as 8 different Gameloft titles running on the phone...
And i have never payed for any app till date...so thanx for nothing...
and just in case you still wanted to know i was from the nokia smartphone family which includes e71,5800 XM, E90 and N8..
lil_devil said:
Well sum ppl dont need a smartphone background to learn what to put in your new phones...
By the way i have done way more than i had thought with my phone includiing rooting it to 2.3.3 and have more than 65 apps running with 3 different launchers as well as 8 different Gameloft titles running on the phone...
And i have never payed for any app till date...so thanx for nothing...
and just in case you still wanted to know i was from the nokia smartphone family which includes e71,5800 XM, E90 and N8..
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The next thing you should do is select the best launcher for you and remove the others... You can always install them when you need them...
secondly, you should use titanium backup to move your games to sd card...!!!
The beauty of android is the amount of customizations you can make, changing wallpapers or fonts, roms and mods, apps, widgets and so on. My x10 was my first smartphone, never made any changes for a month or two due to a bit of trepidation. After rooting it, and due to pretty amazing back up from the devs here, eventually had it running on 2.3.4, overclocked and undervolted. I've had my arc for a week, don't want to unlock the bootloader yet but it's rooted and now just a question of seeing what devs/modders are going to attempt
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doministry said:
Well it's hard to answer such question to a person buying THE FIRST Android phone. This man didn't even share it's experience on smartphones. So what to do? Paste Manual here?
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Awesome answer.
doministry said:
Well it's hard to answer such question to a person buying THE FIRST Android phone. This man didn't even share it's experience on smartphones. So what to do? Paste Manual here?
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Well its not rocket science that u had to paste the manual up...it maybe tht u went thru da whole manual to get started wid urs
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The next thing you should do is select the best launcher for you and remove the others... You can always install them when you need them...
secondly, you should use titanium backup to move your games to sd card...!!!
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Already done dat n i keep taking regular backups...have been shifting thru roms ever since the 2.3.3 rollout and now tryin the CM7 versions being developed so backups came in handy..as far as the launchers are concerned i keep changing the looks of my phone coz i get bored easily
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Hi I just got my first "Gnex" (GT-i9250) although This is an Oldish phone, I got this as a replacement to one of my Xperia Play's I have (Cracked screen, fried battery from being in Afghan') :crying:
I had my Xperia Play overclocked to 1.9-2.0GHz for gaming and 1.4GHz whilst working (Idle'd at 233MHz)
Anyhow; The phone is going to be used for both work and play.. So is there an essential specific set of things I should do? Swap out Google apps with After-market ones? Root and install CFW?
its a 16Gb Model also!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812959
Welcome to the GNex! I suggest 2 apps if you don't already have them. SwiftKey keyboard (can't stand stock) and Root Explorer which is the best file manager I've used personally. If you do decide to root, steer clear of toolkits. The GNex is easy to root manually. A few lines of ADB commands and you are good to go. The hardest part is getting your drivers installed, which isn't a big deal. Other than that, enjoy! The GNex is an excellent device with some great developers.
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You might want to hold off on buying SwiftKey keyboard because they're working on a new version that supports swype as well. I bought the phone and the tablet versions and now I'm buying the new version whenever it is released.
As far as ROMs I recommend you stay on the stock firmware, root it, remove apps you don't really use, then install a recovery like TWRP 2.3.10. This recovery supports storage encryption.
I would stay away from custom ROMs or kernels because I can tell you from personal experience, they just glitch eventually.
I used to own the Motorola Atrix and even though it was a pain to unlock, it's ROMs and kernels never gave me any issues. Maybe it's because I used to flash Faux123 kernels only?
Enjoy your phone dude! The new Nexus 4 was released, but i got a feeling people will be wanting to go back to this device once they realize the grass is not always greener on the other side.
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Pierceye said:
Welcome to the GNex! I suggest 2 apps if you don't already have them. SwiftKey keyboard (can't stand stock) and Root Explorer which is the best file manager I've used personally. If you do decide to root, steer clear of toolkits. The GNex is easy to root manually. A few lines of ADB commands and you are good to go. The hardest part is getting your drivers installed, which isn't a big deal. Other than that, enjoy! The GNex is an excellent device with some great developers.
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Why did you say stay away from Tool Kits?
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Why did you say stay away from Tool Kits?
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Because you don't really have "control" over what they do. It's better to manually do things since you'll know exactly where something went wrong rather than be dependent on software to do something that's incredibly easy.
Soldier-2Point0 said:
You might want to hold off on buying SwiftKey keyboard because they're working on a new version that supports swype as well. I bought the phone and the tablet versions and now I'm buying the new version whenever it is released.
As far as ROMs I recommend you stay on the stock firmware, root it, remove apps you don't really use, then install a recovery like TWRP 2.3.10. This recovery supports storage encryption.
I would stay away from custom ROMs or kernels because I can tell you from personal experience, they just glitch eventually.
I used to own the Motorola Atrix and even though it was a pain to unlock, it's ROMs and kernels never gave me any issues. Maybe it's because I used to flash Faux123 kernels only?
Enjoy your phone dude! The new Nexus 4 was released, but i got a feeling people will be wanting to go back to this device once they realize the grass is not always greener on the other side.
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Why did you say stay away from Tool Kits?
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Root is not required for unwanted apps, just disable them.
Root is an essential for any Android phone IMO.
Then pick up Root Explorer.
The whole point of Nexus devices is AOSP and access to custom ROMs. Otherwise might as well stay with HTC One or GS3.
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The whole point of Nexus devices is AOSP and access to custom ROMs. Otherwise might as well stay with HTC One or GS3.
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I believe the whole point of Nexus devices is getting new update first, and clean ROM looking without HTC, Samsung mambo jumbo launchers. You got custom ROMs for all high end devices
jesusice said:
Root is not required for unwanted apps, just disable them.
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Try disabling Google Plus...
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Try disabling Google Plus...
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What happens? I'm not stock so G+ is not a system app.
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Because you don't really have "control" over what they do. It's better to manually do things since you'll know exactly where something went wrong rather than be dependent on software to do something that's incredibly easy.
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I understand where you're coming from. But from my vantage point, I think there are a lot of people on the XDA Forums who know WAAAAYYY more that I do. I don't know a Kernal from a colonel. I got my Galaxy Nexus (off eBay -SCH-i515) on Thursday 11-1-12. I used the Samsung Galaxy Nexus ToolKit V9.1.0 and used selection #8. It was a one button push to Unlock, root, flash CWM.
On Friday, my Galaxy Nexus was sporting the new Jelly Bean 4.2 camera, and I am one happy camper.
Honestly contrary to what most here said I feel if you are interested in how the device works or are a little inclined towards tech in general then unlock it and take a weekend. Set up your ADB interface and get fastboot working. Otherwise you may do something incorrect and have to create thread after thread getting help to fix it. Get ahold of the fastboot images you need and go to town. You really can't break it, and you will learn tons.
In my opinion CM10 with its new update feature is the best. It is ultra stable even on the nighties and updating is super easy. Get some great root apps to create backups and such.
RootExplorer (cm10 now includes a file manager but it can't handle zips yet)
TitaniumBackup - use the new XML backups to never lose Text messages or call logs and XMLs are compatible with each ROM which is nice.. No issues.
Rooting your phone comes with dangers but can be the most rewarding experience. I personally cannot use my phone without root anymore, mainly for the little things. CM10 has a beautiful quick message element that is exactly what Android has been missing. I use a theme called Popstyle and it is what Android should look like. Dark grey and a non-overpowering red are the colors and it looks upscale and far better then stock Android IMO.
The best thing I can say is have fun. You will break things sometimes and get frustrated but it is a fantastic experience. I've been rooting and modding phones since the D1 in late 2009 and have had stock Android running a small fraction of the time.
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I understand where you're coming from. But from my vantage point, I think there are a lot of people on the XDA Forums who know WAAAAYYY more that I do. I don't know a Kernal from a colonel. I got my Galaxy Nexus (off eBay -SCH-i515) on Thursday 11-1-12. I used the Samsung Galaxy Nexus ToolKit V9.1.0 and used selection #8. It was a one button push to Unlock, root, flash CWM.
On Friday, my Galaxy Nexus was sporting the new Jelly Bean 4.2 camera, and I am one happy camper.
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Unlocking a Nexus manually is easy and enjoyable. Mine was unlocked with TWRP and SU within 15mins of coming home, no toolkits needed. It's like hiring someone to change an outlet - why? It's really simple to do yourself and impresses the wife.
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I would stay away from custom ROMs or kernels because I can tell you from personal experience, they just glitch eventually.
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I would agree with you on the ROM part but not with the kernel part. Franco and trinity kernel are the most stable kernel out there. If op will go about overclocking/underclocking which i think he will, custom kernel is the way to go
Op, read the stickies on general and q&a. search, learn. And always have usb debugging on.
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Thanks guys (And any girls?) I've had Android devices in the past; This is just another in a long line of devices, from Chinatech android resistive devices to top-of-the range "Brand" devices I've had them all. I even had the G1!
Being as this was my first GNex I didn't want to be going round and round in circles like the Galaxy ACE & Galaxy Mini I have!
I had epic difficulty with my Xperia play (No usable recovery as such!).
I've used ADB, got most if not all drivers for Sony, Samsung and HTC Drivers installed on my work laptop ^_^
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Thanks guys (And any girls?) I've had Android devices in the past; This is just another in a long line of devices, from Chinatech android resistive devices to top-of-the range "Brand" devices I've had them all. I even had the G1!
Being as this was my first GNex I didn't want to be going round and round in circles like the Galaxy ACE & Galaxy Mini I have!
I had epic difficulty with my Xperia play (No usable recovery as such!).
I've used ADB, got most if not all drivers for Sony, Samsung and HTC Drivers installed on my work laptop ^_^
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An android phone with a resistive screen, damn
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Why did you say stay away from Tool Kits?
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I suggest avoiding toolkits for 3 reasons. First off, you aren't learning any about the device. If you are going to be rooting and modding your phone you Are eventually going to have a problem that needs fixing. Which leads to reason 2. Most of the users here that have enough knowledge and experience to help when something goes wrong don't generally like having to sort through the mess a toolkit can cause. It's difficult to tell where in the process a toolkit screwed up, so it's that much harder to figure out how to help. It's possible to spend hours bug hunting the problem a toolkit caused. And the last reason is that the GNex is easy to root. I have next to no computer expertise, but with some reading and a little patience I got my phone rooted using the manual method. I learned a lot, not only about the rooting process but Android in general. I admit that I spent a good month reading here at XDA before I was willing to take the plunge. Look at it this way. Would you let a machine that you know nothing about, built by a stranger in their basement, make modifications to the transmission in your car? Would you try to make those same changes yourself without at least reading up on it? This is what people are doing with a toolkit. They then come back to XDA in a panic because their several hundred dollar device doesn't work, they don't know any of the terminology or common courtesies of the forum, and it seems like they expect that help should be forthcoming. Nobody likes to have demands made of them, especially by someone who wasn't willing to take basic precautions. The instant gratification of a toolkit looks good on paper, but if a person isn't willing to do some reading and learning then a rooted device is probably not a good idea for them. I'm proof that you don't have to be a computer genius to do it, but I was damn sure willing to read and LEARN HOW!
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I tried out a family member's S4 and I saw the potential that Android had over apple so I got a ZL for my upgrade.
I am a bit new (I've used iphone 4 for the past 3 years). I was wondering if someone can provide me with some sort of guide that I can read about android, and what I should be doing after getting a new phone to ensure it runs smoothly.
my opinion on the phone so far.
the screen is a little bad compared to the S4 screen. The black on the S4 vs the black on this phone are much different but apart from that, they are both teh same. I like the phone so far, I only need to be able to find the apps that I was able to find on ios now.
Well if you come here then do what most of us do after got an android phone...
ROOT it...flash a custom roms, you can get many in here if you search...then you are done...apps in ios sometimes the same in android...
There are some assential app after rooting just be sure to google it or ask here if to know more...
But rooting need a little base knowledge to do and hope if there is a step by step tutorial, be sure to follow them exactly...but rooting or rather unlocking boot loader will cancel warranty..so it's up to you...
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I tried out a family member's S4 and I saw the potential that Android had over apple so I got a ZL for my upgrade.
I am a bit new (I've used iphone 4 for the past 3 years). I was wondering if someone can provide me with some sort of guide that I can read about android, and what I should be doing after getting a new phone to ensure it runs smoothly.
my opinion on the phone so far.
the screen is a little bad compared to the S4 screen. The black on the S4 vs the black on this phone are much different but apart from that, they are both teh same. I like the phone so far, I only need to be able to find the apps that I was able to find on ios now.
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For the time being, I'd advise against the above poster's suggestions. Don't look into rooting or custom ROMs or anything like that if you're new to Android. Android is a great operating system, highly customisable and more fun in my opinion than iOS. I wouldn't expect you to need to worry about making it run smoothly, for your needs, as the ZL is a powerful phone.
Just search through all the settings menus and enjoy the freedom of choice that iOS never gave you. In the standard Android that comes with the ZL (known as the 'stock' operating system around here) you can't break anything, so have fun with it! Download some apps on the Play store, and build up your knowledge from there.
When you're more familiar with your needs, and Android in general, then maybe you can look into advanced options. But for now, they're really not needed. Welcome to Android!
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For the time being, I'd advise against the above poster's suggestions. Don't look into rooting or custom ROMs or anything like that if you're new to Android. Android is a great operating system, highly customisable and more fun in my opinion than iOS. I wouldn't expect you to need to worry about making it run smoothly, for your needs, as the ZL is a powerful phone.
Just search through all the settings menus and enjoy the freedom of choice that iOS never gave you. In the standard Android that comes with the ZL (known as the 'stock' operating system around here) you can't break anything, so have fun with it! Download some apps on the Play store, and build up your knowledge from there.
When you're more familiar with your needs, and Android in general, then maybe you can look into advanced options. But for now, they're really not needed. Welcome to Android!
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you are right, I agree with you.
It's such a pain currently, trying to unlcok my old iphone and transfer contacts/texts to my ZL.. I honestly hate all this bs but its hard to find a free procedure to get all that done
gjtalin said:
you are right, I agree with you.
It's such a pain currently, trying to unlcok my old iphone and transfer contacts/texts to my ZL.. I honestly hate all this bs but its hard to find a free procedure to get all that done
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Heres a good guide to migrate contacts from an Iphone to Android. Im sure similar exists for moving over texts.
If you don't already have a gmail account - you're gonna want one to access the Android Play Store.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-transfer-your-contacts-between-iphone-and-android/
gjtalin said:
you are right, I agree with you.
It's such a pain currently, trying to unlcok my old iphone and transfer contacts/texts to my ZL.. I honestly hate all this bs but its hard to find a free procedure to get all that done
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You can download Sony's PC companion software. It has free transfer tools for iPhone users.
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You can download Sony's PC companion software. It has free transfer tools for iPhone users.
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that program doesn't work for me.
I honestly thing sony just made up the program and made them crash each time.
gjtalin said:
I tried out a family member's S4 and I saw the potential that Android had over apple so I got a ZL for my upgrade.
I am a bit new (I've used iphone 4 for the past 3 years). I was wondering if someone can provide me with some sort of guide that I can read about android, and what I should be doing after getting a new phone to ensure it runs smoothly.
my opinion on the phone so far.
the screen is a little bad compared to the S4 screen. The black on the S4 vs the black on this phone are much different but apart from that, they are both teh same. I like the phone so far, I only need to be able to find the apps that I was able to find on ios now.
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Welcome to Android buddy! I came from iOS as well in December, and theres no way i'm ever going back. You should also have no issue finding your apps from iOS, as the google play store is just as good in my opinion. It has all the apps i ever used, plus more.
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that program doesn't work for me.
I honestly thing sony just made up the program and made them crash each time.
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Bullmud
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sincere advise give it back mate, it's not that good compared to S4, HTC One, LG optimus G Pro btw I hate S4. If it's a cost thing may i suggest go for LG Optimus G Pro, you get more for your money. That's what I've got and I Ditching my zl
I would love to send my phone off and get it now but that's just not possible. I'm actually enjoying a bone stock device right now. If no exploit comes I think this is the first phone I could run stock and pretty much enjoy it.
I will wait, I am in no big hurry enjoying stock also.
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I actually did do the S-Off, and I'm running a 4.3 ROM and I'm not entirely convinced I'm going to stay this way. I think I may return to the BoneStock ROM. Sense is nice. If Verizon would let you remove their bloat it would be even better. I can understand pre-loading stuff but prohibiting us from removing apps we'll never in a million years use? That's crap.
I agree. I'm still locked down but its definitely the first device I love stock already. S3 was ok, but the One puts everything else to shame pretty much.
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First thing I did was get away from Sense 5. I never gave Blinkfeed a chance, I'll admit it, but I hate it on principle. I have flipboard and only have to look at it when I feel like it. I use Nova and it does everything that I need it to do and more. I have seen every iteration of Sense and liked it until Blinkfeed. I do have a question though; those of you that stayed with it, does Blinkfeed cause a noticeable drain on resources such as battery or data? Besides just being in my face, that was my major concern.
I agree that this is the first phone that I have owned that I am enjoying bone stock and locked. However, I get complaints from anyone I call on Bluetooth (with my car) that they are having a hard time hearing me. I had a S4 with this car and had no issue. Very hopeful that 4.3 and its Bluetooth updates will fix this problem as it is the only thing that is driving me nuts as I can't use the Bluetooth in my car at all right now.
Wish I could unlock and flash 4.3 to see if it fixes the problem
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I agree that this is the first phone that I have owned that I am enjoying bone stock and locked. However, I get complaints from anyone I call on Bluetooth (with my car) that they are having a hard time hearing me. I had a S4 with this car and had no issue. Very hopeful that 4.3 and its Bluetooth updates will fix this problem as it is the only thing that is driving me nuts as I can't use the Bluetooth in my car at all right now.
Wish I could unlock and flash 4.3 to see if it fixes the problem
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I've got an f-150 with the SYNC system, it has been buggy since I bought it but so far no problems with this device, bluetooth media streaming and all.
I'm stock and I have no problem with it this way. Would I like to get rid of the bloat, run ad blocking, etc? Sure. Blinkfeed is like Feedly for grammar school or something. So I'm using Nova, which I like a lot.
So yes, I'm hoping someone comes up with (and shares) a root exploit. If 4.3 should arrive OTA, that will be a tough decision as to accept or not. Chances are I'll wait a bit to see what develops. Meanwhile, I'm loving this device.
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First thing I did was get away from Sense 5. I never gave Blinkfeed a chance, I'll admit it, but I hate it on principle. I have flipboard and only have to look at it when I feel like it. I use Nova and it does everything that I need it to do and more. I have seen every iteration of Sense and liked it until Blinkfeed. I do have a question though; those of you that stayed with it, does Blinkfeed cause a noticeable drain on resources such as battery or data? Besides just being in my face, that was my major concern.
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I enjoy BlinkFeed. I just switched it so it's not my home page. I have awesome battery life on this phone.
I don't think blinkfeed drains any battery whatsoever. I pretty much don't use it, but I really like the sense launcher so I deal with it.
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I am still up in the air about getting the s-off or not (at this current time - will probably do it eventually). I love the phone as is thus far...quick, decent battery, and I like how slim Sense has become - compared to froyo and gingerbread...
I am not entirely sold on the blinkfeed yet...it's cool...but I'm thinking it's because it is a novel item.
I'm still locked, I'm also fine with the stock ROM. I would like better backup options, and remove the Verizon bloat. I'd really like root access to block ads. I've also been a fan of Sense, but I don't care much for Blink feed. Right now I'm using the Nova launcher, and it works well for me. In either case, I'm keeping the phone, unlocked or not, but hopefully an exploit will be released for those of us who opt to not ship off our phone.
With blinkfeed removed I love sense 5.
I have it removed by default in my ROM.
you can easily add it back but once you do you can't remove it until re-flash.
it doesn't eat any battery while not in use from my experience..
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I actually did do the S-Off, and I'm running a 4.3 ROM and I'm not entirely convinced I'm going to stay this way. I think I may return to the BoneStock ROM. Sense is nice. If Verizon would let you remove their bloat it would be even better. I can understand pre-loading stuff but prohibiting us from removing apps we'll never in a million years use? That's crap.
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Since you are rooted and unlocked.
Make a nandroid of the stock system, then remove all the bloat you want.
When it's time to take an OTA restore the nandroid and do it all over again.
I have a few days... Wish there was an equal device to switch to but this thing is an animal... The bloat is bs, and I really miss running mokee on my phone, and could build it for this one if we could get it unlocked... Really good factory sw but I've been on 4.3 with my atrix 2 since days after it came out, I just want some source code and an unlocked device... I think I'll wait, but I'm not locked down yet... This is my first HTC device, but code is easy, for anyone else that wants to tackle the lock down with me....
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and screw the bounty, I wanna do it for free, just like android is meant to be....
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daavvis said:
I have a few days... Wish there was an equal device to switch to but this thing is an animal... The bloat is bs, and I really miss running mokee on my phone, and could build it for this one if we could get it unlocked... Really good factory sw but I've been on 4.3 with my atrix 2 since days after it came out, I just want some source code and an unlocked device... I think I'll wait, but I'm not locked down yet... This is my first HTC device, but code is easy, for anyone else that wants to tackle the lock down with me....
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and screw the bounty, I wanna do it for free, just like android is meant to be....
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That my friend is a true Android statement!! Although I believe whoever does figure something out would deserve it for the work that goes into it. After all this is a free hobby for most people besides buying new phones.
forgive my ignorance, but isn't their a way to free bloat on stock?
I think remember this being talked about on the s4 forums.
andybones said:
forgive my ignorance, but isn't their a way to free bloat on stock?
I think remember this being talked about on the s4 forums.
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You can go into manage apps and disable some things. That's what I did anyway. Not sure of another way though.
andybones said:
forgive my ignorance, but isn't their a way to free bloat on stock?
I think remember this being talked about on the s4 forums.
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I think gray made a zip files in the original android Dev section.
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cstrife999 said:
I think gray made a zip files in the original android Dev section.
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the OP above you was what I was thinking of.
Chainfire posted a long writeup of what the future holds for root on Android phones including Lollipop. It's an interesting read.
"As stated above, it seems for now that modifications to the kernel package are required to have root, we cannot attain it with only modifications to the system partition.
Combine that with a locked bootloader (and optionally dm-verity) and a device becomes nigh unrootable - exactly as intended by the security guys.
Exploit-based roots are already harder to do thanks to SELinux, and now because of the kernel requirements for persistent root, these exploits will need to be run at every boot. Exploits that make the system unstable (as many do) are thus out as well.
It is now thus more important than ever to buy unlocked devices if you want root."
Edit: Tikerz beat me to it. His post is here. Mods delete if you want.
No real surprise to me. It was only a matter of time before it got locked down to the point of no easy exploit. I'm surprised it took this long, actually.
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man locking bootloaders is one thing.. but root??!?
its not even a poormans route anymore to get a carrier phone over a factory one, you need to choose between functionality or reception..
i wonder if Xposed is responsible for crazy bootloader security moving over to root.
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The lack of root in the foreseeable future really ruined my excitement for this phone I have gotten so used to all the nice features of root (in addition to custom ROMs) like Ti Backup, AdAway, customization, etc. that I do not want to fork out the money for a phone that doesn't feel truly mine.
That said, I'm confident the devs will find a solution. Just like every iPhone has been jailbroken there will be root for the Note 4!
There is a root for the note 4.....just not ours ...as intended...if we want root we bought the wrong device...I got it the day before it came out in the mail and was excited I wasn't aware that it was going to be so neglected...I was at least hoping for a safestrap like the note 3 I had that I don't anymore because it shattered and they gave me this as a replacement...now I can't get root...way too sleezy...they got me!
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I certainly don't see it as 'sleezy', as the devices were always known to be locked. It isnt like AT&T were endorsing root or safe strap in the first place... Or secretly locked it at the last minute without telling anyone.
But opinions on morality aside, it is disappointing that root may take a while. Though I'm still optimistic that it will happen eventually.
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JasonJoel said:
I certainly don't see it as 'sleezy', as the devices were always known to be locked. It isnt like AT&T were endorsing root or safe strap in the first place... Or secretly locked it at the last minute without telling anyone.
But opinions on morality aside, it is disappointing that root may take a while. Though I'm still optimistic that it will happen eventually.
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Do you have a feel for how long it might take? How many phones have there been historically that never made it? Cheers!
funnycreature said:
Do you have a feel for how long it might take? How many phones have there been historically that never made it? Cheers!
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Depends if you have a smart enough person with enough time / incentive.
Thus....the bounty thread we all made to hopefully catch a genius eye or 2
funnycreature said:
Do you have a feel for how long it might take? How many phones have there been historically that never made it? Cheers!
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AT&T Note 3 still does not have an unlocked boot loader. I wouldn't hold out for one on this phone. Also everyone with locked boot loaders will loose root permanently when lollipop rolls out.
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pr0cl1v1ty said:
Depends if you have a smart enough person with enough time / incentive.
Thus....the bounty thread we all made to hopefully catch a genius eye or 2
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I agree with you but "enough time" could be a whole year
mircury said:
It is now thus more important than ever to buy unlocked devices if you want root."
Edit: Tikerz beat me to it. His post is here. Mods delete if you want.
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Yeah, if you can afford it, for the rest of us though, it sounds like we'll be out of luck.
Maybe we need to start looking at hardware hacks, like when chipping a console?
Maybe an insecure boot.img can root this phone.
Focus on the boot loader. If it gets unlocked we will be fine with root.
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ShrekOpher said:
AT&T Note 3 still does not have an unlocked boot loader. I wouldn't hold out for one on this phone. Also everyone with locked boot loaders will loose root permanently when lollipop rolls out.
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Which is why I will be buying the T-Mobile Note 4 and unlocking. They already have root and TWRP.
At the very least, I just want AdAway to be functional.
I may sell my att one when my bb pre-order arrives and buy a T-Mobile version...
mshinall said:
Maybe we need to start looking at hardware hacks, like when chipping a console?
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That would be the way to go if the bootloader will not be unlocked. It.will be like Playstation 3 .
nice having posts like this just right up front.... I come to xda for the modding and mainly rooting of my phones.... att releases a totally locked down note 4 and already people are speaking out about its probably not going to get an unlock like the s5... I give up all hope of seeing a subsidized note 4 and start waiting on a nexus 6 to see if the bootloader is still unlockable.
So within 3 posts and less than 15 minutes I learned abandon the att n4... quick and easy... ty xda :highfive:
fbauto1 said:
I agree with you but "enough time" could be a whole year
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Im coming from the S5 I have faith in the Devs here in the beginning with the S5 seemed like all hope was lost and then out of nowhere root was available. I'm going to enjoy the device and give whoever has the means enough time to do their thing it will happen eventually