Hey all,
I really hate to make a new thread but since my post count is lower than 10 I wasn't able to reply to a relevant thread in the dev forum.
I have the latest Nokia care suite installed and am running the last official update from AT&T. I have flashed a few phones with care suite, so i have some experience, but I have a question. When I run either multi software update or product support tool, they pick my phone up correctly as a black at&t lumia 900 and tell me thr software is out of date. They both show the version with numbers matching those recently uploaded on navifirm. I assume care suite is looking at the same repositories these navifirm on nokias servers. If i am thinking about this correctly, I should only have to hit refurbish to install the software in the same manner as downloading the firmware manually through navifirm then flashing it with care suite.
Am I correct in my thinking? Would the results be the same? If not, what would be the potential differences or problems I would encounter?
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Hi guys
I'm wondering if I can install the generic European ROM here: http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=250&cat=2&dl_id=629
I didn't think I could, but it does say "This is a generic software update. Any additional software or settings provided by your mobile operator or company will be lost. If you require this customization, please contact your supplier first before upgrading." which implies that it might work.
I've seen methods with hotfixes which enable installation of the upgrade even if the ROM version is incorrect. Does anything like that work with this?
One issue is that my ROM version is 1.14.161.5 which doesn't seem to match any of the 1.19 ROMs that everyone else seems to have.
If I have to wait for an operator specific version, then where will I download that from once it's available? I've not seen anywhere on vodafone.co.uk that lists phone updates to be downloaded.
Thanks in advance
I tried but htc would not let me pass serial number page saying it wont suite my phone
INstall HSPL from the ROMs section and you should be ok
Hello all,
So after updating my Lumia 710 from Rogers, in the "About" screen of the Diagnostic Tool I see that I am on FW revision 1600.3007.7740.11465. This is a few versions behind what seems to be the latest version out there for unlocked variants of the phone...
So I found this page:
http://www.wpcentral.com/hack-t-mobile-lumia-710-flash-windows-phone-os-8107-new-firmware
Which claims that they have flashed the latest Indian firmware (8107.12070) for the RM-803 variant of the phone onto the T-Mobile (RM-809) version. However I am somewhat reluctant to try flashing an RM-803 image onto an RM-809, especially due to the fact that they support different 3G bands. What do you guys think?
Alternatively, I can see in Navifirm+ that the latest available image for the RM-809 is the Australian 8107.12050, so that might be a safer choice?
This will be the first time I try to manually update a Windows Phone... So what do you guys think? I really want to update it since there are some GMail syncing issues on the build that I'm running now.
I updated my lumia 710 from rogers (RM-809) with the RM-803 indian rom 12070 with no problems! Nothing is missing and it's now unbranded If you follow this guide it's really simple!
Thanks, Simon!
After reading your post, I gave it a shot and everything seems to be working fine I wonder if we should be seeing any battery life improvements like the Lumia 800 users?
Just something I should mention, though: I unlocked my phone so that I could use it on Wind Mobile, but after going through the flashing process, the phone became locked again so I had to re-enter my unlock code.
I didn't know that it was even possible for a phone to become locked again, after already having been unlocked...
I am thinking about getting a Lumia 710, and I am really surprised that you guys were able to flash a firmware from another RM-### without bricking the phone.
I currently own the X7 (RM659) from the Rogers and I was told not to flash the Belle firmware from the X& (RM707) since the phone will get bricked.
Nonetheless, thanks a lot for the info.
Which software do you use to flash? Phoenix or WP7 requires other tools? Never mind I found the post detailing how to debrand it.
The weird thing is... I tried to downgrade from the Indian (RM-803) 1070 build to the Australian (RM-809) 1050 build, and I wasn't able to...
It seems there is a small battery bug (Diagnostic tool doesn't display battery info) so that's why I tried to install the Australian one instead.
Whenever the next update comes along, I hope I'll be able to switch back to an RM-809 build... It seems like the safe way to go.
xsever said:
I currently own the X7 (RM659) from the Rogers and I was told not to flash the Belle firmware from the X& (RM707) since the phone will get bricked.
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Normally you shouldn't... But the only reason I did it is because other people had successfully done it.
Also keep in mind that Symbian phones seem to be a little pickier - you can brick them just by trying to downgrade to the previous OS.
Edit: Well that's weird... My Battery Status randomly started working!
Edit #2: I just remembered I did a battery pull, so that may have had something to do with why it is fixed now...
I never knew it was possible to downgrade the OS for Nokia phones whether it is Symbian or WP.
Would an unlocked T-Mobile Lumia 710 work fine on the Rogers network? Do the GSM bands match?
It would indeed. The RM-809 model supports HSPA 850/1700/1900/2100. So it will work on any of the North American operators. (excluding the cdma operators like Verizon and Sprint, of course)
Actually, I bought my Lumia 710 from Rogers, unlocked it, and I am using it on Wind Mobile now (same hspa band as t-mobile).
Edit: I hope you're right about the downgrading thing, since that would mean that the reason I wasn't able to flash back to RM-809 was because of the fact that it's a downgrade, as opposed to something being messed up on the phone! I guess I'll find out when the next update comes along.
I am 100% sure you cannot downgrade Nokia firmwares without bricking the phone. I read about one method somewhere, but it was very complicated.
If I were you, I wouldn't be worried, now that you have the RM-803 firmware, next time there is an RM-803 update, you should be able to update via Zune/Nokia Suite without having to go through the method you used at the beginning of the post.
Now your phone is an RM-803 so Zune will recognize it as so and update it normally hence the beauty of debranding where you don't have to wait for operators.
Hello guys i'm new to the site.
I want it to ask if i could flash my lumia 710 (t-mobile US) with the RM-809 VAR T-MOBILE BLACK version that appears in navifirm.
my nokia is DLOAD. Would that be a problem?
kortvolker said:
Hello guys i'm new to the site.
I want it to ask if i could flash my lumia 710 (t-mobile US) with the RM-809 VAR T-MOBILE BLACK version that appears in navifirm.
my nokia is DLOAD. Would that be a problem?
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I was wondering that too.
Also, there's two T_Mobile 8773 fw's listed for each color phone. One appears to have been released 06/04/12. The other 05/29 . What's the differences?
Hi, im L900 indonesian (no carrier sim lock) newbie user..
why i cant find any phone update for my phone?
is it because i have up-to-date version (i dont think so)?
Info:
OS ver : 7.10.8773.98
Firmware rev : 2175.2101.8779.12201
Radio software ver : 2.1.75.20
Bootloader ver: 7.17.2.0
Arc's Soul said:
Hi, im L900 indonesian (no carrier sim lock) newbie user..
why i cant find any phone update for my phone?
is it because i have up-to-date version (i dont think so)?
Info:
OS ver : 7.10.8773.98
Firmware rev : 2175.2101.8779.12201
Radio software ver : 2.1.75.20
Bootloader ver: 7.17.2.0
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Looks like your OS, FW and Radio are all 1 version behind. Bootloader didn't change.
Current:
OS: 7.10.8779.8
FW: 2175.2301.8779.12223
Radio: 2.1.75.22
I have seen word of a slightly newer firmware, but that's not verified.
Have you plugged your phone into a PC running Zune software?
Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express Pro
jimski said:
Looks like your OS, FW and Radio are all 1 version behind. Bootloader didn't change.
Current:
OS: 7.10.8779.8
FW: 2175.2301.8779.12223
Radio: 2.1.75.22
I have seen word of a slightly newer firmware, but that's not verified.
Have you plugged your phone into a PC running Zune software?
Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express Pro
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i always conenct it to zune everyday to check for update and turn on phone update setting , but it always up-to-date.
where i can get newest update? is it because the region problem?
Arc's Soul said:
Hi, im L900 indonesian (no carrier sim lock) newbie user..
why i cant find any phone update for my phone?
is it because i have up-to-date version (i dont think so)?
Info:
OS ver : 7.10.8773.98
Firmware rev : 2175.2101.8779.12201
Radio software ver : 2.1.75.20
Bootloader ver: 7.17.2.0
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i sent my Lumia 900 for repair, as it was having some hang issues as i droped it. nokia changed my screen and microphone and also updated OS to 7.10.8779.8
so, can i just send my lumia to nokia and ask them to update OS for me? or i can update it my self? i try to installing nokia care suite and it said my software is not upgradeable.. and for the new software is 2175.1601.8773.12141
you can see it at here <s10.postimage.org/bmdg8coop/downgrade.jpg>
Arc's Soul said:
so, can i just send my lumia to nokia and ask them to update OS for me? or i can update it my self? i try to installing nokia care suite and it said my software is not upgradeable.. and for the new software is 2175.1601.8773.12141
you can see it at here <s14.postimage.org/xrsd8zt9d/downgrade.jpg>
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According to the image you posted, you have a newer version installed on your phone than the Nokia Suite is showing. It appears you are ahead.
PS: When posting a photo like that, you should probably try to black out the IMEI number. I don't know if it's still being done, but in the past, people would use your IMEI number to clone another device. Would not hurt to black out the MAC also.
I just noticed that your OS and Firmware are out of sync. They should both be 8773 or 8779. How did that happen? Your 8779 Firmware may be indicating that the 8779 OS is already there. Hence, your phone may think it's up to date.
Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express Pro
SuperSport said:
According to the image you posted, you have a newer version installed on your phone than the Nokia Suite is showing. It appears you are ahead.
PS: When posting a photo like that, you should probably try to black out the IMEI number. I don't know if it's still being done, but in the past, people would use your IMEI number to clone another device. Would not hurt to black out the MAC also.
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oh, thanks i never know about that
jimski said:
I just noticed that your OS and Firmware are out of sync. They should both be 8773 or 8779. How did that happen? Your 8779 Firmware may be indicating that the 8779 OS is already there. Hence, your phone may think it's up to date.
Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express Pro
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for the first time,the seller tell me its better to create new email account according to use registered account, i created new one.. but after that i reset the phone from about setting.. and i use the account that i already created... and i get phone update from zune without update info..
how i fix this? how if i update/downgrade it from nokia suite and then update it from zune?
anyone can help me through this??
My Lumia shows
OS version 7.10.8779.8
Firmware revision number 2175.2503.8779.12301
Radio software version 2.1.75.25
Bootloader version 7.17.2.0
Sent from my Lumia 900 using Tapatalk 2
I just got an update changing firmware to *.12301 as well...
zune shows me i already have the lastest update.. and nokia pc suite shows me previous version..
Hi All,
Just a quick question. Haven't been able to get force the update to my Lumia 900 yet. (Australian, unlocked).
Could someone let me know if when doing an official upgrade whether you also get a firmware update.
If not I might just CAB update instead.
Thanks in advance.
Adam
adamsmith said:
Hi All,
Just a quick question. Haven't been able to get force the update to my Lumia 900 yet. (Australian, unlocked).
Could someone let me know if when doing an official upgrade whether you also get a firmware update.
If not I might just CAB update instead.
Thanks in advance.
Adam
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I'm not sure what you mean by "official upgrade," but I got my Lumia 900 upgraded to 7.8 and immediately there was a firmware upgrade from Nokia.
I did the disconnect method to download 7.8, and didn't see any firmware upgrade. What is the new firmware # and how do I get it if I don't have it?
I have Lumia 900 RM-823 and today (without disconnecting method) I updated my phone to WP 7.8.
After Microsoft's updates (8779 > 8783 > 8858), there was a Nokia update, which changed my firmware version to 2175.2905.8853.12440, so YES, there IS a firmware update. However it's lower than firmware that you get with NCS + NaviFirm method, which is 2175.2905.8858.12480.
In [CAB] Official WP7 Updates List up to WP 7.8 + ALL LANGUAGES complete + OEM updates it is called OEM update and I've just captured an URL to this file:
Code:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/dflt/2012/12/oemupdate.cab.pks_dcd00799a4a516c3b8c88e439ce04aa1887ff436.cab
Cheers!
BXN said:
I have Lumia 900 RM-823 and today (without disconnecting method) I updated my phone to WP 7.8.
After Microsoft's updates (8779 > 8783 > 8858), there was a Nokia update, which changed my firmware version to 2175.2905.8853.12440, so YES, there IS a firmware update. However it's lower than firmware that you get with NCS + NaviFirm method, which is 2175.2905.8858.12480.
In [CAB] Official WP7 Updates List up to WP 7.8 + ALL LANGUAGES complete + OEM updates it is called OEM update and I've just captured an URL to this file:
Code:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/dflt/2012/12/oemupdate.cab.pks_dcd00799a4a516c3b8c88e439ce04aa1887ff436.cab
Cheers!
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Hi BXN,
Fantastic, thanks for the info. That's exactly what I was looking to find out.
Thanks
Adam
adamsmith said:
Hi BXN,
Fantastic, thanks for the info. That's exactly what I was looking to find out.
Thanks
Adam
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Glad I could help. But remember, this particular CAB is for RM-823 only.
I don't know which variant is in Australia, but you can check it by looking at the bottom of your Lumia near the speaker:
static.arstechnica.net/2012/04/03/lumia_900_bottom-4f7b43b-intro.jpg
Cheers once again!
Lumia 900 RM808 Rogers version did NOT get any nokia updates, just the 3 OS updates...
BXN said:
Glad I could help. But remember, this particular CAB is for RM-823 only.
I don't know which variant is in Australia, but you can check it by looking at the bottom of your Lumia near the speaker:
static.arstechnica.net/2012/04/03/lumia_900_bottom-4f7b43b-intro.jpg
Cheers once again!
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No worries, mines the RM-823. I have another rom on it from Navifirm at the moment, but I want to put the correct one back on just in case.
We seem to be a bit behind here on getting the update pushed out and I don't want to sit and wait on 7.5. The start screen and double wide tiles make a massive difference!
Thanks again,
Adam
adamsmith said:
Hi All,
Just a quick question. Haven't been able to get force the update to my Lumia 900 yet. (Australian, unlocked).
Could someone let me know if when doing an official upgrade whether you also get a firmware update.
If not I might just CAB update instead.
Thanks in advance.
Adam
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I used the disconnect method and updated my 900, two OS updates were done and one nokia firmware was done, so yes there is a firmware update...
my HD7 only had 2 OS updates no firmware updates...
I called Nokia to verify after the update and they told me that my OS and firmware is latest and greatest....
I follow the most simple way..
1. connect 900 to PC
2. turn off the wifi on PC or disconnect the network cable on PC.
3. turn on wifi on phone
4. run update on zune
5. 5 sec later turn on airplane mode on your phone.
6. you will have a msg stating you have an new update, turn on the wifi or connect network cable on your PC and update you phone.
it takes few tries to get it right...
the 7.8 OS tiles arrangement is great as it leaves very little space on the right side of the home screen.
Hello ! Any way to get my Lumia 550 straight to FCU starting from 10586.494? I mean skipping the two steps in the middle (AU and CU). There could be a way using Over the Cable Updater or is there the firmware itself somewhere in the web which I can flash?
Jeff Weight said:
Hello ! Any way to get my Lumia 550 straight to FCU starting from 10586.494? I mean skipping the two steps in the middle (AU and CU). There could be a way using Over the Cable Updater or is there the firmware itself somewhere in the web which I can flash?
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Windows 10 Mobile has no planned feature updates past FCU. The latest build should be 15254. Last I checked, the Lumia 550 continues to be supported thru the end of this year. In April, all users running build 15063 were bumped to 15063.1029. My Lumia 830 received that update (despite being shut out of the feature2 branch). You should check for that update first. It would be best to avoid that update on a metered connection.
Microsoft Support Document
Important Information Regarding Windows 10 Mobile Support - Windows Central
furboom1240 said:
Windows 10 Mobile has no planned feature updates past FCU. The latest build should be 15254. Last I checked, the Lumia 550 continues to be supported thru the end of this year. In April, all users running build 15063 were bumped to 15063.1029. My Lumia 830 received that update (despite being shut out of the feature2 branch). You should check for that update first. It would be best to avoid that update on a metered connection.
Microsoft Support Document
Important Information Regarding Windows 10 Mobile Support - Windows Central
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Yes I know that. I was looking for a way to avoid to get through the annoying process of update from the old November Update (because I had to recover my Lumia with WDRT) and jump straight to FCU. So flashing some FCU firmware or other ways...
Jeff Weight said:
Yes I know that. I was looking for a way to avoid to get through the annoying process of update from the old November Update (because I had to recover my Lumia with WDRT) and jump straight to FCU. So flashing some FCU firmware or other ways...
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There is no way unless you would have someone to dump a custom ROM supporting your device from the 550 somewhere at like version 15063.297 at least or another later supported version if possible. You could always attempt to dump one your self in the event you have to completely Reset with WDRT on that device in the future. But that is up to you...You would need to read up on the Window Phone internals tool and create a custom rom that way.
edit: Actually I just looked and seems certain variants of the 550 have FW revisions all the way up to OS 10.0.10586.494. If you want further than that a custom rom is the only option.