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Hi all,
I realise it might be silly to ask this in a HTC Desire section, but is it worth getting the Desire?
My niece is buying my HTC Hero from me and I loved owning that, so I was thinking of an 18 month Desire contract. What would you guys suggest?
Thanks in advance,
--Ray
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battery life sucks
disconnect charger & lose 10%
gps poor
sat nav uses your data allownce
camera is poor... n95 walks all over it
720 vid freezes
cant see screen in day light
bluetooth dont stay on, discoverable for 120sec's
speaker very poor
Good Points
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good for browsing internet
some good apps
nice size screen
root phone for custom roms
The desire with slcd can be seen in direct light
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IMHO totally worth it.
Yes, there are some flaws. But still, it's the greatest toy I have ever owned
Nothing like smooth internet browsing on the couch. Or checking Wikipedia in a bar. Or messaging my facebook friends on the bus. Great
Ahh, nice. Thanks
People who have had HTC Heros before: how does it compare in terms of experience (not just a list of specs)?
It's an good upgrade from the hero. It feels more solid and optical trackpad is big improvement.
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battery life sucks
disconnect charger & lose 10%
The little battery trick posted several places(1) worked pretty well for me and many other people (although not everyone). My Desire has been unplugged (and unused) for 16 hours and is only down to 89%. On a normal day (mp3's to and from work, browsing every chance I get, emails, texts, a few calls) I'm still in the green at bedtime.
(1) Too new to post a link. It's a full night's charge after full depletion, unplug, recharge one hour, unplug, turn on, turn off, charge one more hour.
lee815 said:
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battery life sucks - You can extend it, using various methods.
disconnect charger & lose 10% - If you have done your research - you'll know this is crap you're talking here. I dont have this issue on my Desire.
gps poor - Uh, no it's not? Where are you? Under a rock?
sat nav uses your data allownce - Ah, no it doesn't - get Copilot and all maps remain on the SD card.
camera is poor... n95 walks all over it - Smoking something are we? lol
720 vid freezes - No it doesn't - it has low frame rates - but this is a cell phone after all, so deal with it.
cant see screen in day light - New Desires come with SLCD which work 100% in sunlight. My current Desire even works well in sunlight.
bluetooth dont stay on, discoverable for 120sec's - Why do you need it on longer than that? Normal bluetooth on the phone stays on for as long as you want.
speaker very poor - Again, you smoking something?
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good for browsing internet
some good apps
nice size screen
root phone for custom roms
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Seriously - if you're going to review or give an opinion on a product - at least have your facts up to date, lol.
lee815 said:
Bad Points
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battery life sucks
disconnect charger & lose 10%
gps poor
sat nav uses your data allownce
camera is poor... n95 walks all over it
720 vid freezes
cant see screen in day light
bluetooth dont stay on, discoverable for 120sec's
speaker very poor
Good Points
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good for browsing internet
some good apps
nice size screen
root phone for custom roms
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battery life does not suck! 3 days with heavy use if you know how to use android..
"disconnect charger & lose 10%" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903 very easy..
"poor gps" also have to disagree with that! I have a tom tom xl europe, use the phone more then my sat nav, very smooth, very accurate!
The camera is much better than the n95! My sister had the n95, at the time I had my nokia 5800, and that 3.2mp camera was much better! the hTc camers is much better, nice effects, auto focus.
720p video mode does freeze (sometimes) but then again thats what task killers are for
The speakers are bad, but if you listen long enough you won't see the differance, now that I'm back with my nokia, can't stop listening to music!
bluetooth is a bit of a dissapointment when sending bigger files, however I do think that there should be an app that should stop that.
well, thats my icing on the cake, if I think of anything else I'll let you know
hope this help! good luck!
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Seriously - if you're going to review or give an opinion on a product - at least have your facts up to date, lol.
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I agree! The review by lee815 has been very poor. There is a thread on the forum on how to fix these littles annoyances. But most of what he mentions are utter bs tbh
I'm probably being a bit thick here, but what is "SLCD"? I've just got my desire and I'm having problems seeing the screen in daylight, so anything that rectifies that would be great.
Thanks!
lovemydesire said:
I'm probably being a bit thick here, but what is "SLCD"? I've just got my desire and I'm having problems seeing the screen in daylight, so anything that rectifies that would be great.
Thanks!
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Since you cant see a thing in daylight then you have an AMOLED Desire like most of us.. there is no solution to that to speak of.. i have bought a screen protector which stated it would make my screen readable on direct sunlight but thats bullocks at least..
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Coming from a Hero, the Desire is a very welcome upgrade. Personally feel like it is the perfect size too.
The screen is hard to see when in direct sunlight but I haven't had an issue with it in the car for navigation so far and I use it at least once a week in the car.
It is that much more responsive and web browsing is awesome.
It doesn't feel as cramped as the Hero did to me after a while and it feels like a quality product though sadly I leave mine in a gel case to protect it. Everyone says the speaker is crap but I've been pretty happy with mine if I'm playing music through it but then I'm not an audiophile or anything like that. Easily the best phone I've had
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Thanks everyone
That's set my mind at ease a bit, I think I'm definitely going to go through with this and get a Desire now!
One last question.
Is it still risky to root it? I remember reading a while ago how easy it was to permanantly brick your Desire in some cases.
rayjt9 said:
Thanks everyone
That's set my mind at ease a bit, I think I'm definitely going to go through with this and get a Desire now!
One last question.
Is it still risky to root it? I remember reading a while ago how easy it was to permanantly brick your Desire in some cases.
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While im no "root guru" since i havent rooted any Android phones so far (was a WM 6.5 addict before hand) if you are on stock 2.1 rom and with the Amoled screen the rooting is as simple as pressing one button (with UnRevoked method..)
If you are on the 2.2 rom though.. ive read that you need to downgrade first to 2.1 before rooting etc..
I personaly dont have the need to root mine simply because, unlike M$, I trust HTC and her software and everything seems perfect to me on stock ROMs.. and im not really in the mood of flashing every day like i did on my xperia before..
Wether you decide to root it or not, the Desire is a truly wonderful phone in all of its aspects i hope you'll enjoy it as much as i (and probably most of the people who have boughted it) have..
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im entitled to my opinion & theres no need to get personal. My opinion relfects a large number of threads complaining about the same issues i have raised. if you dont agree fine but like i said, no need to get personal.
Not to worry. It's always good to get varying perspectives. I found your post quite helpful, since I had no idea of any problems I might run into. It's good to have the negatives up with the positives so a rational conclusion can be reached.
Thanks again.
lee815 said:
im entitled to my opinion & theres no need to get personal. My opinion relfects a large number of threads complaining about the same issues i have raised. if you dont agree fine but like i said, no need to get personal.
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@lee815
Chill out man and take it on the chin.
This is forum life..!
lee815 said:
im entitled to my opinion & theres no need to get personal. My opinion relfects a large number of threads complaining about the same issues i have raised. if you dont agree fine but like i said, no need to get personal.
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If you are reffering to my previous response i seriously didnt have anything against you.. i just stated my own opinion on rooting and the phone in general.
P.s. just wrote that to avoid any missunderstandind since your reply is after mine and you havent quoted anyone so i assumed you are reffering to my previous post..
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i guess lee is a new owner.
lee seriously research what you initially don't like
i guarantee you some issues are real and some are because you don't yet know how to work the phone and others are very fixable quite easily with the good help from clever ppl on here.
the gps from my experience without any tweaks is amazingly good for locking onto sats quickly
the screen brightness is easily overcome with the power widget
i was disappointed for the first 2 weeks until i started to find apps and tricks here. now its just amazing.
I have been wanting to buy the HOX since its day of release however I keep putting it off and am slowly losing confidence in the phone.
Initially, I decided to wait to see if the battery would handle the phone. Despite mixed reviews I've concluded that battery life isnt really an issue and would give me similar performance to my Desire which has been an amazing phone for the past 2 years.
Then came the big showstopper, the flickering screen. After weeks of agonising whether to wait or not, it now appears that this looks as if it will be fixed via a FOTA upgrade which is great. Just when I was getting my confidence back in the phone, people started reporting issues with the screen coming away from the main case, plus others have reported issues with the g-sensor.
I've had a play with the phone on a couple of occasions and I love it but is it really worth buying right now and going through the heartache of having to send it back and going through the lottery of getting several handsets before one works.
I'm not about to jump on the SGS3 bandwagon. If the phone is not worth buying at the moment, I'm sticking with my Desire as I'm prepared to wait a bit longer if all these problems will be addressed eventually. HTC are not filling me with much confidence at the moment though.
Any advice would be gratefully received.
craggybuk said:
I have been wanting to buy the HOX since its day of release however I keep putting it off and am slowly losing confidence in the phone.
Initially, I decided to wait to see if the battery would handle the phone. Despite mixed reviews I've concluded that battery life isnt really an issue and would give me similar performance to my Desire which has been an amazing phone for the past 2 years.
Then came the big showstopper, the flickering screen. After weeks of agonising whether to wait or not, it now appears that this looks as if it will be fixed via a FOTA upgrade which is great. Just when I was getting my confidence back in the phone, people started reporting issues with the screen coming away from the main case, plus others have reported issues with the g-sensor.
I've had a play with the phone on a couple of occasions and I love it but is it really worth buying right now and going through the heartache of having to send it back and going through the lottery of getting several handsets before one works.
I'm not about to jump on the SGS3 bandwagon. If the phone is not worth buying at the moment, I'm sticking with my Desire as I'm prepared to wait a bit longer if all these problems will be addressed eventually. HTC are not filling me with much confidence at the moment though.
Any advice would be gratefully received.
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i got mine 2 days after release, first had a dead pixel and no other problems, i took that back and got this one and has been 100% fine no issues i'm so confident it is perfect i unlocked and void warranty lol
i would go for it you will have 30 days to take it back anyway so no like oyu will be out of pocket if you do get a defect just take it back.
Personally I have had mine for 2 weeks I guess I been lucky the first one I had was very very hot after 15 minutes that was HT23 handset. I swapped it with a HT243W which looking at the forums seemed to be better build quality a lot more robust. Still warms up when playing games but not too the point of scalding.
I used Custom roms on mine and with ARHD I was getting good battery life I am considered a light user 5 hours listening pod casts, 2hrs surfing and a few phone calls. I have a long commute to work.
Overall I really really love this phone. I have no regrets in my decision on getting the one X.
I must be 1 of the lucky 1s, first handset and no faults ht23 batch. I'm glad I went for this instead of the S3. Does everything I need it to do smoothly and the battery lasts me just over a day with over 3 hours screen on time
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Where did you all get your handsets from. I'm looking at getting mine from mobiles.co.uk as they seem the cheapest for the handset on the length of contract I'm looking at.
I'm currently using GiffGaff as my provider but I cant afford to buy the phone outright so I'll be moving back to Orange when I eventually buy it. Thats why its important for me to only buy when I'm satisfied as I'll be going from £10 a month at GG to £26 a month with Orange.
Got mine from Clove.co.UK on release day. Not had a single issue.
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I got mine from o2
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your more likely to find people talking about problems on forums than people saying their device is perfect, simply because there is no reason to say "my device is perfect" but people report problems to let others know.
There are more perfect one xs than there are broken ones.
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craggybuk said:
Any advice would be gratefully received.
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The graphics issues (it's not just flickering) will be resolved via updates. If you're in no rush, there's no harm in waiting until the "all clear" is sounded.
The setting of the screen is a QC issue. The polls would indicate that either a lot of people are easily pleased, blind, or that the majority of phones are decent. If you're buying in-store compare a couple.
The biggest item (it doesn't qualify as an "issue") people aren't pleased with is that HTC uses two vendors for the display. One has a warm cast, the other cool. Most people seem to prefer the cool. If you can see the phone you're buying that shouldn't be an issue.
The only non-addressable issue is battery life and it's real. I get about 15-20% less usage than on my i9100 doing exactly the same things. It's passable but no more.
Other than that I've had the phone over two weeks and not had a single issue. There are no QC issues, the displays brilliant, and Wi-Fi/BT/3G all work better than on my i9100. Coming from TW I also really like Sense. It really is a terrific value; especially for less than a 16GB SGS3.
ive been the most vocal about QC issues
but i love the HOX despite all this and think its worth some effort, really amazing in every word, futuristic phone
having said that, i truly think no one with flawed HOX should keep it, exchange until you get yourself a flawless One X to enjoy and as BarryH_GEG said its best to pick it by hand it store
as for the displays, the colder one is more pleasant to the eye/brighter but the warmer one is more accurate and have better contrast/clean grid, users reported recalibrated colors for the warm screen after the 1.29
corruption glitches seems mostly gone with 1.29 too, this leaves the grey flicker occurring after over heating which im also hoping will be sorted with updates, since its never being permanent and Transformer prime suffered from something similar which eventually got sorted by updates
make sure to hand pick your unit and if you can't be bothered wait a while, im pretty sure HTC is working on the production issues
i don't think the SGS3 comes close
No issues here neither.
Battery lasts well enough, even with heavy use (phone calls, texts), lots of games, browsing, apps will kill the battery.
No screen issues.
Steve
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Sorry if I sound like I'm flaming you, however I have to right?
The title of this thread is just utterly ridiculous. Of course this phone is fit for purpose, primarily because it can make texts & calls. It's amazing how many people are complaining about this phone and saying it isn't right. If you buy a phone within the first two months, maybe even three of it being launched, these are problems you have to expect to get.
The build quality issues are inexcusable. As far as I'm concerned the first batch should be as good as the very last batch made, however I know this isn't always the case due to different factories ect.
As for the software, I think almost every single smartphone on the planets initial software is flawed in one way or another. I suppose technically you could argue the One X is running 'Beta' firmware. It's Kernel is took from Gingerbread rather than ICS. In my opinion HTC rushed the release.
Until a phones initial release, there is never any mass software testing and so there are always going to be bugs. When I got my Desire HD on launch day, despite being an OTA the second I got home the phone still had a severe battery drain and performance issues that weren't sorted out for months! It was around February when those issues got sorted, and that update got pulled because it introduced new bugs.
The One X is a beautiful piece of craftsmanship. You can tell that it's design has really been took into consideration, and despite being on my 4th device (I'm very happy with this one) I don't regret getting my One X and completely recommend it to you, it will not disappoint.
So the answer to your question, the One X is certainly fit for purpose. Feel free to flame me people, it's just my opinion.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
craggybuk said:
I have been wanting to buy the HOX since its day of release however I keep putting it off and am slowly losing confidence in the phone.
Initially, I decided to wait to see if the battery would handle the phone. Despite mixed reviews I've concluded that battery life isnt really an issue and would give me similar performance to my Desire which has been an amazing phone for the past 2 years.
Then came the big showstopper, the flickering screen. After weeks of agonising whether to wait or not, it now appears that this looks as if it will be fixed via a FOTA upgrade which is great. Just when I was getting my confidence back in the phone, people started reporting issues with the screen coming away from the main case, plus others have reported issues with the g-sensor.
I've had a play with the phone on a couple of occasions and I love it but is it really worth buying right now and going through the heartache of having to send it back and going through the lottery of getting several handsets before one works.
I'm not about to jump on the SGS3 bandwagon. If the phone is not worth buying at the moment, I'm sticking with my Desire as I'm prepared to wait a bit longer if all these problems will be addressed eventually. HTC are not filling me with much confidence at the moment though.
Any advice would be gratefully received.
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As an owner, I think the battery issue is the biggest for me. Also, I'm not happy about not supporting OTG.
If you can find a phone that fits your needs with better battery life, go for it
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jaaystott said:
So the answer to your question, the One X is certainly fit for purpose. Feel free to flame me people, it's just my opinion.
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What's your purpose?
I would prefer a phone I can feel comfortable taking out of the city for a few days, and with some way to access external storage - be it OTG or usb...
In hindsight, the One X is like a gaming phone or something.
I dont think that any phone is 100% perfect for everyone that buys it. Its all about compromises. This is probably why quite a few people carry two handsets with them.
Any new device released will have its teething issues…. even many cars launched have recalls in the first few months.
As I said, I have no issues with mine at all. Screen has no faults, its not lifting from the body, I am always able to have the phone on charge (even though I am a field based engineer) but lasts well enough when off charge.
The only time i see the battery drain quickly is when browsing the net, tethering or playing games. Texting, emailing, facebook dont seem to kill the battery that much as its generally just for a few moments rather than 10 or 20 minutes with the screen on.
We buy a phone cos its thin, huge screen, good looking and has a quad core processor….. surely its not rocket science to know that the battery isnt going to last as well as a Nokia 6310i?
Steve
Supaiku said:
What's your purpose?
I would prefer a phone I can feel comfortable taking out of the city for a few days, and with some way to access external storage - be it OTG or usb...
In hindsight, the One X is like a gaming phone or something.
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The OP was basically asking is this phone fit for purpose, so I assume he means as a phone, as a phone its more than fit for purpose
jaaystott said:
The OP was basically asking is this phone fit for purpose, so I assume he means as a phone, as a phone its more than fit for purpose
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You know those 30 dollar nokias make great phones... and they will last days on a single charge! Plus they're smaller...
Hi guys, thanks for all the replies. It seems that the majority of you are happy with the One X.
Just to clear up a what I mean by fit for purpose. I want a handset which isnt going to fall apart or malfunction beyond repair within 6 months. Some of the threads here are disturbing to say the least concerning the manufacturing issues with a select batch of handsets.
jaaystott, I don't think the title of the thread is ridiculous. I was asking a question based on what I have read here. If I had come out and said that the HOX WAS unift for purpose then you would have a point. Remember, I dont have the phone yet so I was asking a question that anyone would reasonable ask prior to spending a substantial amount of cash.
I am tempted to see what next week brings and then just bite the bullet and buy one.
craggybuk said:
Hi guys, thanks for all the replies. It seems that the majority of you are happy with the One X.
Just to clear up a what I mean by fit for purpose. I want a handset which isnt going to fall apart or malfunction beyond repair within 6 months. Some of the threads here are disturbing to say the least concerning the manufacturing issues with a select batch of handsets.
jaaystott, I don't think the title of the thread is ridiculous. I was asking a question based on what I have read here. If I had come out and said that the HOX WAS unift for purpose then you would have a point. Remember, I dont have the phone yet so I was asking a question that anyone would reasonable ask prior to spending a substantial amount of cash.
I am tempted to see what next week brings and then just bite the bullet and buy one.
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Well if that's all you're looking for, then just make sure your phone doesn't have any build quality issues before you do something to void the warranty (like unlock it w/ HTCdev) and you're set. My One X has no build quality issues, and if you check out the "One X War Stories" thread to see about how well the One X fairs when subjected to "cruel and unusual punishment" ;p
For instance:
hamade said:
I've received the first case after around a week, but during that time I've dropped the phone at least 4 times, always on a solid floor and from around 1 meter height, and I can honestly say I am really impressed with the quality of the packing, there is not even one visible scratch on the phone or the screen.
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I have been a windows phone user for the last year or so but was so tempted by the one x and android 4 that I took the plunge and got one a couple of weeks ago. The first couple if days were great but since then I have suffered random reboots, the disappearing SD memory problem, battery overheating and now the battery will only get me through a couple of hours. The phone will also sometimes decide it needs to reload the home screen and displays "loading" for a minute or two. It lags, it will not send music meta data to my cars head unit, Bluetooth audio in the car is tinny and syncing my music collection with it is a pain. I have gone back to my Titan as my daily use phone and now use the one x as a camera (which is pretty good actually). I am running stock and have uninstalled all third party apps.
adesonic said:
I have been a windows phone user for the last year or so but was so tempted by the one x and android 4 that I took the plunge and got one a couple of weeks ago. The first couple if days were great but since then I have suffered random reboots, the disappearing SD memory problem, battery overheating and now the battery will only get me through a couple of hours. The phone will also sometimes decide it needs to reload the home screen and displays "loading" for a minute or two. It lags, it will not send music meta data to my cars head unit, Bluetooth audio in the car is tinny and syncing my music collection with it is a pain. I have gone back to my Titan as my daily use phone and now use the one x as a camera (which is pretty good actually). I am running stock and have uninstalled all third party apps.
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You tell the best stories...
adesonic said:
I have been a windows phone user for the last year or so but was so tempted by the one x and android 4 that I took the plunge and got one a couple of weeks ago. The first couple if days were great but since then I have suffered random reboots, the disappearing SD memory problem, battery overheating and now the battery will only get me through a couple of hours. The phone will also sometimes decide it needs to reload the home screen and displays "loading" for a minute or two. It lags, it will not send music meta data to my cars head unit, Bluetooth audio in the car is tinny and syncing my music collection with it is a pain. I have gone back to my Titan as my daily use phone and now use the one x as a camera (which is pretty good actually). I am running stock and have uninstalled all third party apps.
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well you don't deserve one
Typical fandroid responses
Typical wp fanboy
Ya ..u deserve those crappy single core windows phone..the ultimate superiority n luxury isn't everybody's piece of cake..
U dont choose a One X man..One X CHOOSES YOU..n yours rejected u for good..Go buy a Lumia
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Wow you guys just wow...You lot moan about the s3 fanboys coming here and moaning how good the S3 is better than the One X but when someone is genuinely not liking the phone after actually using it you still have a moan and call the OP fanboy. Give the guy a break. Let us show we are better than those on the dark side
To the OP. We get it you do not like the phone. Was it necessarily for you to open a thread my friend and post all the bad points? that is why we have the build quality effects thread and few more that you can report what problems you have. Sorry to hear that you do not like the phone but maybe either give it in for a replacement or just upgrade to a different phone.
adesonic said:
I have been a windows phone user for the last year or so but was so tempted by the one x and android 4 that I took the plunge and got one a couple of weeks ago. The first couple if days were great but since then I have suffered random reboots, the disappearing SD memory problem, battery overheating and now the battery will only get me through a couple of hours. The phone will also sometimes decide it needs to reload the home screen and displays "loading" for a minute or two. It lags, it will not send music meta data to my cars head unit, Bluetooth audio in the car is tinny and syncing my music collection with it is a pain. I have gone back to my Titan as my daily use phone and now use the one x as a camera (which is pretty good actually). I am running stock and have uninstalled all third party apps.
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Most suppliers have a cooling-off period, if your unhappy with the device - simply return it.
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Someone actually bought a windows phone?
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NoobTerminator said:
Wow you guys just wow...You lot moan about the s3 fanboys coming here and moaning how good the S3 is better than the One X but when someone is genuinely not liking the phone after actually using it you still have a moan and call the OP fanboy. Give the guy a break. Let us show we are better than those on the dark side
To the OP. We get it you do not like the phone. Was it necessarily for you to open a thread my friend and post all the bad points? that is why we have the build quality effects thread and few more that you can report what problems you have. Sorry to hear that you do not like the phone but maybe either give it in for a replacement or just upgrade to a different phone.
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Ok guys, instead of replying pls use the report button if you feel offended in any way by a certain post, there is no need for you guys to reply. Thanks for your efforts in trying to keep our forms clean, but using the report button helps a lot more.
Thank you noob terminator, I posted because I am so frustrated, I expected so much more from this phone, I have always been a big HTC fan and thought the one x would be a good android alternative to my titan, but the phone is not ready for market IMHO. Perhaps a few updates down the line it will be ok but for now, I just can't rely on it.
Techimplant said:
Ya ..u deserve those crappy single core windows phone..the ultimate superiority n luxury isn't everybody's piece of cake..
U dont choose a One X man..One X CHOOSES YOU..n yours rejected u for good..Go buy a Lumia
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Lol CHOOSE U.... really! Lol. I use both wp and android. I'm guessing you have a faulty device or one x running 1.19 software. I don't have those problems. No reboots at all. No sense reloads. That I think it's caused by the calendar widget. And wp os no need dual core or quad core to run fast.
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adesonic said:
Thank you noob terminator, I posted because I am so frustrated, I expected so much more from this phone, I have always been a big HTC fan and thought the one x would be a good android alternative to my titan, but the phone is not ready for market IMHO. Perhaps a few updates down the line it will be ok but for now, I just can't rely on it.
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If after a format (no apps installed), your still getting random reboots & only a couple of hours battery - you really need to be getting this device replaced.
I've had the tegra 3 version for over a month, never had 1 single random reboot, & my battery is very good.
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D.O.C said:
Ok guys, instead of replying pls use the report button if you feel offended in any way by a certain post, there is no need for you guys to reply. Thanks for your efforts in trying to keep our forms clean, but using the report button helps a lot more.
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Do not worry DOC i try my best to help out around here Nice to see you around here by the way.
adesonic said:
Thank you noob terminator, I posted because I am so frustrated, I expected so much more from this phone, I have always been a big HTC fan and thought the one x would be a good android alternative to my titan, but the phone is not ready for market IMHO. Perhaps a few updates down the line it will be ok but for now, I just can't rely on it.
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No problem my friend. The phone is ready but like every new flagship that gets released it does take a few updates to get the phone to it's true power. Same was with the S2. It needed a few good updates and a few months to properly realize its power...I think you need to return it and get a replacement
@chrisjicks
same here bro..had my phone now for a few weeks even though i am on my third replacement and could not be happier...And also glad that the development has picked up big style now..nice to see the old VR crew here from the s2 forum
I don't suppose you got a replacement One X and tried a different device?
What with all the faulty ones around that could have been the simple case with yours maybe? Because if so a working one might have provided a different perspective on the phone.
If someone is having random reboots after a format with no apps installed, its clear to me that its a faulty device, - if this isn't the case, he has an app installed that is causing it.
If I can go over a month without a single reboot (by itself) - it can't be a software bug.
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@chrisjcks
same here bro..had my phone now for a few weeks even though i am on my third replacement and could not be happier...And also glad that the development has picked up big style now..nice to see the old VR crew here from the s2 forum
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Yeah, nice to see the VR team here, but sadly don't think I will be unlocking / rooting etc.
I get a 2yr warranty with my device & don't want to lose it.
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I will get a replacement unit and see if it is any better
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If someone is having random reboots after a format with no apps installed, its clear to me that its a faulty device, - if this isn't the case, he has an app installed that is causing it.
If I can go over a month without a single reboot (by itself) - it can't be a software bug.
Yeah, nice to see the VR team here, but sadly don't think I will be unlocking / rooting etc.
I get a 2yr warranty with my device & don't want to lose it.
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I could not help myself so i went ahead and unlocked it. If anything happens then i will worry about warranty..For now everything is running smoothly. And even if you leave it stock like you have phone is more than good enough. but unlocking it and unleashing the power is a different matter. anyways nice to see you around and the s3 nothing major to want me to jump ship..Maybe the next nexus but for now i am more than happy
Dude my one x is the best no problems what's with yours
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I have been a windows phone user for the last year or so but was so tempted by the one x and android 4 that I took the plunge and got one a couple of weeks ago. The first couple if days were great but since then I have suffered random reboots, the disappearing SD memory problem, battery overheating and now the battery will only get me through a couple of hours. The phone will also sometimes decide it needs to reload the home screen and displays "loading" for a minute or two. It lags, it will not send music meta data to my cars head unit, Bluetooth audio in the car is tinny and syncing my music collection with it is a pain. I have gone back to my Titan as my daily use phone and now use the one x as a camera (which is pretty good actually). I am running stock and have uninstalled all third party apps.
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Couple of things:
If the battery lasts two hours the phone is broken, or you are doing it wrong.
Updating the phone will solve the re-loading issue mostly.
So I have never considered the S3 before, but I have two weeks left to replace my One X (Second One X with dodgy compass) and I am wondering whether to just give up and ask for a S3 instead.
First of all let me say that I LOVE the One X, and the better screen and sleeker looks are more than enough for me to pick it over the S3 with it's otherwise stronger specs - were it not for the faults with the device.
Build quality is iffy, and I have had two HOXes now, both of which have had dodgy gps which just don't work (they show me spinning around on the spot and moving around rapidly on the map when I am standing still). But perhaps getting another replacement would fix that.
But that isn't all. The fact that wi-fi turns off when the phone goes into stand-by is a huuge inconvenience, as I have to keep on interacting with the phone whenever I am down/uploading a large file, so it doesn't stop half way through. I shouldn't have to do this.
Also, the multi-tasking is pretty awful and doesn't seem to have been coded well at all.
Now my question is, do you guys foresee these problems being sorted out in the not-too-distant future, or are you considering switching over to the S3 as well? Also, do you expect the S3 to have similar problems when it comes out?
I just want to reiterate that I love this phone and really don't want to slag it off, but the combined problems are really getting me down, and I don't think an expensive top-end mobile should should be so flawed.
TY for any thoughts and opinions in advance.
EDIT: Ok well. Two of the biggest problems I had with the One X seem to have been solved already.
First of all, the 1.29.0.11 (??) patch has apparently fixed multi-tasking.
Also, some genius has managed to show me a fix for the wi-fi turning off when the phone is in standby.
Crabitpig said:
There's an app on the market (power saver settings by Derek r Randall)that let's you into the hidden HTC power settings from there untick the WiFi auto disconect and also keep never sleep selected from the advanced WiFi menu.hit thanks if this helps
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I tried this out, and my phone's wifi now stays connected even when the screen is turned off!! Woop!!!!
Still leaves the factor of a dodgy GPS, but I am more than happy to get a replacement HOX as the other main problems have been alleviated
Same question for me. I got 2nd one atm and still got probs with it. Like the GPS like you, gap on the side, WiFi turnin off....... I like this thing and I want it workin but now I'm in the role that I could change to another device on Vodafone Germany because its getting the 3rd replacement. I don't know what to do too... Greetz
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I am !
does the wifi go off when the screen is off whether u r downloading or not?
mox123 said:
does the wifi go off when the screen is off whether u r downloading or not?
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I own a sensation but when I'm not dling, the WiFi goes off when screen is off.
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does the wifi go off when the screen is off whether u r downloading or not?
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Yes.
But even if it stayed on until the download was finished, that wouldn't be OK in my opinion.
I am for at least 12 months. As much as the lack of s-off is annoying it isn't the deal breaker so long as HTC are releasing pretty regular updates for the bugs found. As far as my devices build quality is concerned I have no problems. Just not worth using htcdev until half way through my contract risking the loss of warranty.
The device itself should entertain me as is for 12 months. Hunting S-OFF is a side attraction until then post that date root via htcdev will see me the latter half of the contract by keeping me interested.
Sticking with One X for now unless something real enticing comes. SGS3 was a disappointment IMO. Maybe the Sony GX or the next Nexus I'll upgrade. Maybe even iPhone 5
SGS3 has multitasking problems also according to a reviewer/user if we're talking about the same problem.
Wi-Fi should be fixed, One S had it fixed I believe.
I personally haven't run into wi-fi problems recently. For a a little while when running a new build of ARHD, I all of a sudden got the wi-fi problems ppl were talking about. Didn't have the problems before that. Switched over to LeeDroid and haven't run into the wi-fi problem since.
You can set a longer screen off time when downloading, also I'm sorry to say I don't have the same problems :/
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as much as i hate to say this i am undecided as well..now if my carrier comes back to me and they say i can replace my handset then i will go for the s3. now do not get me wrong i love my one x. but at the same time with all the issues going on kinda puts me off. hence how do i know i will not get another dodgy one..if they say they can only repair it then i will hold off sending it as it is still fully functional and were i have the creaking i stuck a case over it and it has stopped for now..so it goes like this
replace it for me then i am going for the s3
if they say no then one x it is and still a great device and i have recommended it to a few of my friends and hoping they get a good batch
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Sticking with One X for now unless something real enticing comes. SGS3 was a disappointment IMO. Maybe the Sony GX or the next Nexus I'll upgrade. Maybe even iPhone 5
SGS3 has multitasking problems also according to a reviewer/user if we're talking about the same problem.
Wi-Fi should be fixed, One S had it fixed I believe.
I personally haven't run into wi-fi problems recently. For a a little while when running a new build of ARHD, I all of a sudden got the wi-fi problems ppl were talking about. Didn't have the problems before that. Switched over to LeeDroid and haven't run into the wi-fi problem since.
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you aren't serious about the iPhone, aren't you ?
im selling mine when i borrow a camera for pics. i made a mistake leaving Samsung. i might get the nexus though. Google wallet might actually work. i have never seen so many duplicate threads, clueless users, and mods choosing when to enforce rules and when not to.
I'm selling mine as soon as it comes back from HTC, should be a brand new one. I won't open it and will sell it straight away and buy a S3.
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Are you guys really sure the Samsung will not have bugs ?
I will stay with my OneX ... i am sure it will be better and better ... and i dnt want such a ugly phone in my pocket lol
muamers said:
Are you guys really sure the Samsung will not have bugs ?
I will stay with my OneX ... i am sure it will be better and better ... and i dnt want such a ugly phone in my pocket lol
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Yeah it is pretty nasty looking isn't it! I also don't like the idea of having 16gb base memory even if it is expandable. I much prefer the 32gb internal memory of the One X over Micro SD as it is so much quicker - and I dont need to fork out even more money for an SD card.
Hmmmm..... This is really annoying. Why couldnt you just get the phone right HTC!!??
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you aren't serious about the iPhone, aren't you ?
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Depends if its actually good. I have an upgrade with att. Will probably use it either way and if it doesn't look good ill just sell it off.
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The question is no different than asking "which should I buy, a M-B E Class or BMW 5 Series?" Both have strengths and weaknesses and neither is immune from issues.
The same applies to the One X vs. SGS3 comparison.
Here's a list of reasons why not to get a One X over a SGS3.
1) You like SAMOLED displays.
2) You need better battery life than the 1800mAh non-removable battery in the One X can provide.
3) You want removable storage.
4) You don't like the One X design or are partial to the SGS3's.
5) You like TouchWiz better than Sense.
6) HTC's new warranty policy for flashing third-party ROMs either scares you or pisses you off.
7) You fancy some of the s/w features like Direct Talk, S-Voice, and Smart Stay.
8) You use $300 plus headphones or have several thousands of dollars’ worth of home A/V equipment and the Wolfson DAC's important.
Here's a list of things that are going to be the same.
1) Initial build quality issues.
2) Initial s/w problems.
3) Variations from display-to-display.
4) Durability and longevity.
5) Excellent development support.
Voice calls, e-mail, MMS, social, and web browsing make up 70% of what people do with smartphones. In those areas it would be hard to tell the two phones apart. Happy decision making.
P.S. – For those on their 9th exchange, now hate HTC for whatever reason, or have expectations no phone ever produced could meet; there’s no need to re-post what you’ve most likely already posted a dozen times. I, and I’m sure others get it; the One X has some launch issues and because of that your life is forever altered.
sticking with it.. does everything I need and it's the sexiest phone on the market right now. so why would I need to move? Plus I'm on a 2 year contract so doesn't justify me breaking my contract or selling my phone for less than its actual worth.
@BarryH I think that's a little unfair. I wasn't trying to run through faults that have already been covered at great length elsewhere on the forum. Nor was I asking for a basic tally of pros and cons of S3 versus the One X.
My aim was to gauge the community's loyalty towards the One X given the faults and flaws that the device shipped with, and whether many would be making the switch over to the S3.
Also, the majority of the problems with the One X are not examples of people being overly picky or entitled - they are cases of the phone simply not doing what it was designed to do. Now I have no idea if or how long it will take HTC to fix them, but that is why I asked what peoples' thoughts about that where in the original post.
Thanks for responding
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@BarryH I think that's a little unfair.
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I wasn't faulting your original question. Sorry if it came across that way. The One X vs. SGS3 comparison/debate will be ongoing for most of the year. I was just trying to provide a check list for people on the fence. I'd guess most people leaving the One X would be going to the SGS3 anyway. I never did answer your original question. I'm getting a SGS3 and using it for a week or two before deciding which phone to keep. And not because I think there's anything wrong with the One X.
Hi everyone!
I'm a LG O3D user (with great regrets...) and I have the possibility of a (almost) new ONE X, unbranded for €300.
I know that every phone as its issues, and I've read the foruns in search of those issues in the ONE X, but wanted to have a deeper insight on the everyday life with this one.
I really like HTC and having owned a Hero, and knowing the support (at least here in Pt) is good, I'm really thinking of it.
Thank you very much!
I have had no problems with my One X, but from what I have read there are a few things you should check out before buying.
Check the wi-fi signal, GPS signal consistancy.
I think those 2 are the most common problems and the most annoying ones. I read also something about a gap between the screen and case, but not sure about it.
All of those can be checked out easily (10-20 minutes) before buying, so make sure you do that! You would not want to shell out 300 to find out wi-fi does not work, or you GPS is incredibly inacurate.
Thanks for the info!
I'm testing it tomorow or the day after.
Whats your thoughts on the battery life?
HyBry said:
I have had no problems with my One X, but from what I have read there are a few things you should check out before buying.
Check the wi-fi signal, GPS signal consistancy.
I think those 2 are the most common problems and the most annoying ones. I read also something about a gap between the screen and case, but not sure about it.
All of those can be checked out easily (10-20 minutes) before buying, so make sure you do that! You would not want to shell out 300 to find out wi-fi does not work, or you GPS is incredibly inacurate.
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Mouselik said:
Thanks for the info!
I'm testing it tomorow or the day after.
Whats your thoughts on the battery life?
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Battery life is surprisingly good for me. After the first couple days i easily get over 12 hours before reaching 20%. Must say i love that the phone drains almost no battery when listening to music in my experiences.
HyBry said:
I have had no problems with my One X, but from what I have read there are a few things you should check out before buying.
Check the wi-fi signal, GPS signal consistancy.
I think those 2 are the most common problems and the most annoying ones. I read also something about a gap between the screen and case, but not sure about it.
All of those can be checked out easily (10-20 minutes) before buying, so make sure you do that! You would not want to shell out 300 to find out wi-fi does not work, or you GPS is incredibly inacurate.
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The wifi issue normally doesnt substantiate until a couple of weeks in use, and so does the screen flickering issue. So far popular know issues include:
1) Bad battery life (~ 2 hr of screen time)
2) Over heating after 5-10minutes in use
3) GPS issue
4) Screen flex issue
5) Screen flickering (mostly solved)
6) Antenna issue
7) 3G connection
8) Gaps
9) Sense issues
And before you buy this you should pray to your lucky star that you wont get a dud one. I've seen people on this forum going thru so much stress w HTC and this phone.
Battery life there are days I think not bad and on others I ask myself what the hell? Despite having my phone for around 4 or 5 months I still do notice drops of 3-5% in battery life. I can't really make my mind up for this device. I can't tell if htc is going to improve anything on this device anymore or if that's just as good as it gets. It'll be best if you just end up expecting nothing from HTC. That will save you from having expectations that wont be met anyway.
Edit: by the way there is a battery life thread with a trillion posts in it. Just open it and come up with a conclusion yourself. Be warned though, you might see people with around 5 to 6 hours of screen time which seems really questionable to me. I would say the people posting screen times of anywhere between 2 to 4 hours 30 minutes screen time are legit.
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Well, I come from the LG world of not giving a Sh!t about costumers...
How's the HTC support treating those cases?
You think it is a bad buy?
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The wifi issue normally doesnt substantiate until a couple of weeks in use, and so does the screen flickering issue. So far popular know issues include:
1) Bad battery life (~ 2 hr of screen time)
2) Over heating after 5-10minutes in use
3) GPS issue
4) Screen flex issue
5) Screen flickering (mostly solved)
6) Antenna issue
7) 3G connection
8) Gaps
9) Sense issues
And before you buy this you should pray to your lucky star that you wont get a dud one. I've seen people on this forum going thru so much stress w HTC and this phone.
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One X user (Tegra version) since one week. Switched to the CM10 preview this weekend. Very good phone, battery life is on par with the rest. If you check the points mentioned above (also make sure the power and volume buttons are responsive), that sounds like a good deal. ROM community is very active, JB support already almost flawless. Also, the screen is the best I have seen on a phone so far.
Mouselik said:
Well, I come from the LG world of not giving a Sh!t about costumers...
How's the HTC support treating those cases?
You think it is a bad buy?
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Just go get a sgs3. You can expect a crappy design plus a display not as nice as the one x in my opinion. But you also get to have a better performance, little to no lag, much better battery life.probably less hardware faults etc. (You at least know what you can expect and you actually get it)
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Well, I come from the LG world of not giving a Sh!t about costumers...
How's the HTC support treating those cases?
You think it is a bad buy?
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Honestly I think HTC has been playing the blame games and time buying strategies to the extent of ignoring customers and treating like crap. But still better than LG as far as I have known. And as someone has said, if you want a better chance of getting a drama free phone better get the SGS3, as much as I hate Samsung. But you're not gonna have that beautiful hardware and AMAZING screen (funny how i say this since I dont own it lol).
This is a co-worker who's selling its ONE X, so no S3 option for me...
I'm having a lot of trouble in knowing what to focus on, because from what I see (read), there are issues (as with every single phone), and I think the important part is the support by HTC being good.
On that point (HTC support), what do you think? Any experience with them?
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Just go get a sgs3. You can expect a crappy design plus a display not as nice as the one x in my opinion. But you also get to have a better performance, little to no lag, much better battery life.probably less hardware faults etc. (You at least know what you can expect and you actually get it)
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Mouselik said:
This is a co-worker who's selling its ONE X, so no S3 option for me...
I'm having a lot of trouble in knowing what to focus on, because from what I see (read), there are issues (as with every single phone), and I think the important part is the support by HTC being good.
On that point (HTC support), what do you think? Any experience with them?
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Long term htc users: "HTC supporrt is great, they might lack a little at first, but sooner or later(probably they mean later) they will just nail the update properly and it will all function nicely."
first time HTC user(myself): i've yet to see any of the support and i honestly feel like i'm not in good hands but i'm still open for them to prove it. The only reason i haven't completely given up on htc is because of the people who have been with htc for a much longer time. They seem to have a much different opinion of HTC and their updates and what not.
Oh yeah, not to forget, rooting/flashing can void your warranty *HIGH FIVE*
in my opinion to have your HOX function properly, you're gonna want to root.
edit: since it's a co-worker you're probably going to be getting it cheaper, right? Which will probably make the OneX more worthy of its price.
First thing you're going to want to do is check if his bootloader says "unlocked" or "relocked" or "locked" - this would make it possible for you to lower the price and get it even cheaper
Well on the update point, I think LG just trumps every single brand on the market... They simple don't give us any... LOL
Regarding the list of possible issues, do you think it can be easily observed? or its more of a wear-by-time kind of thing?
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Long term htc users: "HTC supporrt is great, they might lack a little at first, but sooner or later(probably they mean later) they will just nail the update properly and it will all function nicely."
first time HTC user(myself): i've yet to see any of the support and i honestly feel like i'm not in good hands but i'm still open for them to prove it. The only reason i haven't completely given up on htc is because of the people who have been using htc for a much longer time , they seem to have a much different opinion of HTC and their updates and what not.
Oh yeah, not to forget, rooting/flashing can void your warranty *HIGH FIVE*
in my opinion to have your HOX function properly, you're gonna want to root.
edit: since it's a co-worker you're probably going to be getting it cheaper, right? Which will probably make the OneX more worthy of its price.
First thing you're going to want to do is check if his bootloader says "unlocked" or "relocked" or "locked" - this would make it possible for you to lower the price and get it even cheaper
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Mouselik said:
Well on the update point, I think LG just trumps every single brand on the market... They simple don't give us any... LOL
Regarding the list of possible issues, do you think it can be easily observed? or its more of a wear-by-time kind of thing?
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Honestly! When i got this phone i was the happiest person on earth until i noticed a few problems here and there and this just ruined the overall user experience. There's something about this phone that tells me i want to keep it. Design is gorgeous, sometimes i just turn the phone around just to admire the awesome look of how it's built. When the problems start to pile up, however, you get really unsatisfied.
With later batches i heard the phone is supposed to be pretty good and problem-free. I believe the main issues that you won't see immediately is the WLAN issue and maybe a bit of a screen gap. Haven't really been hearing much of the flicker issues anymore.
How to notice the WiFi issue i'd suggest a google search or for you to look around @ xda forums. I don't really feel like explaining it. Actually, youtube should help you in this case --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKCJ4Ab2tIo
Well, being a smartphone user for some time, I can relate with that feeling...
I'm going to buy it, sell my O3D, and may the gods of smartphone be with me!
Thank you so much for your help.
P.S. It will cost me €300, being that here in Pt, a new unlocked one costs €700...
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Honestly! When i got this phone i was the happiest person on earth until i noticed a few problems here and there and this just ruined the overall user experience. There's something about this phone that tells me i want to keep it. Design is gorgeous, sometimes i just turn the phone around just to admire the awesome look of how it's built. When the problems start to pile up, however, you get really unsatisfied.
With later batches i heard the phone is supposed to be pretty good and problem-free. I believe the main issues that you won't see immediately is the WLAN issue and maybe a bit of a screen gap. Haven't really been hearing much of the flicker issues anymore.
How to notice the WiFi issue i'd suggest a google search or for you to look around @ xda forums. I don't really feel like explaining it. Actually, youtube should help you in this case --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKCJ4Ab2tIo
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Mouselik said:
Well, being a smartphone user for some time, I can relate with that feeling...
I'm going to buy it, sell my O3D, and may the gods of smartphone be with me!
Thank you so much for your help.
P.S. It will cost me €300, being that here in Pt, a new unlocked one costs €700...
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In this case, the phone is well worth it's price. Had you stated that in the beginning i think no one here would have even wanted to start a discussion
Hehe. It was my jedi mind trick to allure you guys to the discussion!
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In this case, the phone is well worth it's price. Had you stated that in the beginning i think no one here would have even wanted to start a discussion
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I wouldn't worry too much about it, anything that goes wrong will be covered by the warranty anway.
Mouselik said:
Hi everyone!
I'm a LG O3D user (with great regrets...) and I have the possibility of a (almost) new ONE X, unbranded for €300.
I know that every phone as its issues, and I've read the foruns in search of those issues in the ONE X, but wanted to have a deeper insight on the everyday life with this one.
I really like HTC and having owned a Hero, and knowing the support (at least here in Pt) is good, I'm really thinking of it.
Thank you very much!
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Buying a new one will have less chances of defects, as new models are more bugfree
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Well,
The seller (co-worker and friend) reports none of the liste issues. No wi-fi problem, no screen problem, and general usage with no hick-ups.
Is used it for about a month. And, furtunatly for me, he's more of an iPhone guy hehe
theDroidfanatic said:
Buying a new one will have less chances of defects, as new models are more bugfree
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