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htc are PISSING ME OFF

i really wanted to get this phone and now with all these issues with screen problems, storage space corruption etc. is seriously putting me off, i mean what the heck is this, it's meant to be their flagship device

Fcukin chill out, mine is fine what u complainging about, u havnt even got one so why complain
Sent from my HTC One X

Because I was going to get one today and now I'm not, it's a lovely device yet they can't get it right, you think I want to risk purchasing a handset that has flickers, screen issues, missing storage? Don't you realise that I actually USE my phone for pretty much everything from work, to uni, to my life?? AND I NEED IT TO WORK GOD DAMN IT NONE OF THIS BS

Boo hoo.
Try having one with issues before you complain. There are plenty of people with perfectly working ones, just a big majority on here that got them in the first week or so have early problems. Such as my self.
Most things aside from the screen flicker can be resolved.
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Get one , you will get one like me a faultless one . No worries. Newer batch phone has no errors and btw prefer Taiwan made and serial ht24 or greater batch.
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Mine is perfect no problems here

Lol, I hope he doesn't get one,... then maybe he will piss off from the HOX forum.
Creating bashing posts like this and the clown doesn't even have the device, nor has he even used it.
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Waiting for threads like this to pop up when the S3 is released

I'm inclined to agree with the title, while I dislike the phone for other reasons HTC have annoyed me hugely with the whole "we've listened to the customers and unlocked the bootloader" lie.
The handset itself has been fine, no flex or screen problems and it takes a good picture. I suspect it will scratch the camera lens in regular use though (as did my Desire) but that's not the killer. While some people may find the built in memory and sealed battery to be fine, I don't.
It's being returned after six days of use/learning the foibles of the phone and I'll go back to my old handset for the time being. This isn't aimed at bashing the One X for all those who are about to jump on me for posting an opinion, just pointing out that there are those of us who have tried it and found it wanting. What will I look at next? Dunno and this isn't really the place to speculate. Quite sad about it really as the HOX has already attracted a decent developer base, there's quite an impressive who's who of developers from the Desire ROM sub forums around.

I have had mine for at least a month and have yet to have any problem that you described above. Go get one and see for yourself. Its definitely a great device, probably best I've ever had and thats hard for me to say considering I usually prefer Samsung. HTC did an excellent job with this phone.

Now is a good time to get one. Just got mine from Phones4U free on a 12mo contract at £36 a month
Get a drop box account and earn us both 500mb extra space http://db.tt.oxXI5hNk

mox123 said:
Because I was going to get one today and now I'm not, it's a lovely device yet they can't get it right, you think I want to risk purchasing a handset that has flickers, screen issues, missing storage? Don't you realise that I actually USE my phone for pretty much everything from work, to uni, to my life?? AND I NEED IT TO WORK GOD DAMN IT NONE OF THIS BS
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It's a phone, not a life-saving drug. If you don't want to even try it, just buy something else.

Don't feed the troll. He's just being a ****.
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Yeah I'm being a ****? have you noticed the forums full of posts with htc one x faults? are you blind? ok you might have a good one, but a considerable amount of users are having serious issues,
ok, I guess you have a bigger **** than me since you call me a clown and state I'm being a ****, nice one,
I'm glad someone agrees with me in the fact that there are flawed models out there with no way to guarantee which model I will get,
What the arseholes who have replied to this post negatively are basically saying is I should get the phone then ***** about whatever flaws it has (if it has any),
How about all HTC ONE X models should be flawless rather than me worrying about whether I get a faulty model or not
I've never used one? are you ****ing serious, You think I would have made my mind on purchasing a phone without using it, now whos the clown making assumptions here,
I'm not saying I will get a faulty model but the fact is there are faulty models out there,
who the **** wants a phone with flickering screens, flex display, missing storage, etc.?? not me for a start
if you want to swear, I'm letting you know I can swear too

No problei here despite reading the stories on here before. I experienced the issues that the large HTC windows mobile had, can't remember its name now. Had no problems with desire and desire hd or sensation. Got mine off eBay for 350 including the beats headphones new, bargain in my opinion. A work of art this phone. Light as a feather.
The only thing that's noticeable is the off white screen colour, I cant tell if its a yellow tint or blue tint really. Should be fixed with software upgrades? Fingers crossed!
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mox123 said:
Yeah I'm being a ****? have you noticed the forums full of posts with htc one x faults? are you blind? ok you might have a good one, but a considerable amount of users are having serious issues,
ok, I guess you have a bigger **** than me since you call me a clown and state I'm being a ****, nice one,
I'm glad someone agrees with me in the fact that there are flawed models out there with no way to guarantee which model I will get,
What the arseholes who have replied to this post are basically saying is I should get the phone then ***** about whatever flaws it has (if it has any),
How about all HTC ONE X models should be flawless rather than me worrying about whether I get a faulty model or not
I've never used one? are you ****ing serious, You think I would have made my mind on purchasing a phone without using it, now whos the clown,
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as much as i disagree with the way you are handling the whole issue here specially with your language i also have to agree with you with the whole HTC thing though. if i knew what kinda faults the phone had from the start i would of gone for the Nexus. But as time goes and after 3 replacements i still kinda have a phone with a very thin gap...not noticeable but still you know it is there and a tad creak if you press hard on the left hand side of the phone..but still i will keep this as everything else is functional and the phone is a beast...with a nice case i bought and the pouch i have a great phone....it is down to you what you want to do but i would advice to handle your frustrations in a better manner good luck with what you choose

Im pissed off cos ive not really got any problems to report and feel as if ive been left out the party!!
Dam you HTC, why did you make my device fault free?
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Well I admit maybe I shouldn't have freaked out, I've been eagerly awaiting this phone and then whilst checking these forums to ensure no major issues, I find there are a ton of issues, I mean wtf??
I'm not going to risk buying a phone unless I know there's a chance it will be a good working model.
Anyway sorry to have started this thread on a bad note and sorry for swearing, I can man up and admit I was wrong initially

forumhookersdotcom said:
Newer batch phone has no errors and btw prefer Taiwan made and serial ht24 or greater batch
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That is not entirely true. My last one was a ht242 and had this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elLrWWFVNOM

You do realize anytime you have a lot of phone enthusiasts buying the same phone in an area such as a phone forum you are more likely to see more incidents of problems arise?
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So are you guys sticking with the One X then? I'm undecided.

So I have never considered the S3 before, but I have two weeks left to replace my One X (Second One X with dodgy compass) and I am wondering whether to just give up and ask for a S3 instead.
First of all let me say that I LOVE the One X, and the better screen and sleeker looks are more than enough for me to pick it over the S3 with it's otherwise stronger specs - were it not for the faults with the device.
Build quality is iffy, and I have had two HOXes now, both of which have had dodgy gps which just don't work (they show me spinning around on the spot and moving around rapidly on the map when I am standing still). But perhaps getting another replacement would fix that.
But that isn't all. The fact that wi-fi turns off when the phone goes into stand-by is a huuge inconvenience, as I have to keep on interacting with the phone whenever I am down/uploading a large file, so it doesn't stop half way through. I shouldn't have to do this.
Also, the multi-tasking is pretty awful and doesn't seem to have been coded well at all.
Now my question is, do you guys foresee these problems being sorted out in the not-too-distant future, or are you considering switching over to the S3 as well? Also, do you expect the S3 to have similar problems when it comes out?
I just want to reiterate that I love this phone and really don't want to slag it off, but the combined problems are really getting me down, and I don't think an expensive top-end mobile should should be so flawed.
TY for any thoughts and opinions in advance.
EDIT: Ok well. Two of the biggest problems I had with the One X seem to have been solved already.
First of all, the 1.29.0.11 (??) patch has apparently fixed multi-tasking.
Also, some genius has managed to show me a fix for the wi-fi turning off when the phone is in standby.
Crabitpig said:
There's an app on the market (power saver settings by Derek r Randall)that let's you into the hidden HTC power settings from there untick the WiFi auto disconect and also keep never sleep selected from the advanced WiFi menu.hit thanks if this helps
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I tried this out, and my phone's wifi now stays connected even when the screen is turned off!! Woop!!!!
Still leaves the factor of a dodgy GPS, but I am more than happy to get a replacement HOX as the other main problems have been alleviated

Same question for me. I got 2nd one atm and still got probs with it. Like the GPS like you, gap on the side, WiFi turnin off....... I like this thing and I want it workin but now I'm in the role that I could change to another device on Vodafone Germany because its getting the 3rd replacement. I don't know what to do too... Greetz
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I am !

does the wifi go off when the screen is off whether u r downloading or not?

mox123 said:
does the wifi go off when the screen is off whether u r downloading or not?
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I own a sensation but when I'm not dling, the WiFi goes off when screen is off.
Sent w/ HTC Sensation 4G (Z710a) XDA Premium

mox123 said:
does the wifi go off when the screen is off whether u r downloading or not?
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Yes.
But even if it stayed on until the download was finished, that wouldn't be OK in my opinion.

I am for at least 12 months. As much as the lack of s-off is annoying it isn't the deal breaker so long as HTC are releasing pretty regular updates for the bugs found. As far as my devices build quality is concerned I have no problems. Just not worth using htcdev until half way through my contract risking the loss of warranty.
The device itself should entertain me as is for 12 months. Hunting S-OFF is a side attraction until then post that date root via htcdev will see me the latter half of the contract by keeping me interested.

Sticking with One X for now unless something real enticing comes. SGS3 was a disappointment IMO. Maybe the Sony GX or the next Nexus I'll upgrade. Maybe even iPhone 5
SGS3 has multitasking problems also according to a reviewer/user if we're talking about the same problem.
Wi-Fi should be fixed, One S had it fixed I believe.
I personally haven't run into wi-fi problems recently. For a a little while when running a new build of ARHD, I all of a sudden got the wi-fi problems ppl were talking about. Didn't have the problems before that. Switched over to LeeDroid and haven't run into the wi-fi problem since.

You can set a longer screen off time when downloading, also I'm sorry to say I don't have the same problems :/
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as much as i hate to say this i am undecided as well..now if my carrier comes back to me and they say i can replace my handset then i will go for the s3. now do not get me wrong i love my one x. but at the same time with all the issues going on kinda puts me off. hence how do i know i will not get another dodgy one..if they say they can only repair it then i will hold off sending it as it is still fully functional and were i have the creaking i stuck a case over it and it has stopped for now..so it goes like this
replace it for me then i am going for the s3
if they say no then one x it is and still a great device and i have recommended it to a few of my friends and hoping they get a good batch

pewpewbangbang said:
Sticking with One X for now unless something real enticing comes. SGS3 was a disappointment IMO. Maybe the Sony GX or the next Nexus I'll upgrade. Maybe even iPhone 5
SGS3 has multitasking problems also according to a reviewer/user if we're talking about the same problem.
Wi-Fi should be fixed, One S had it fixed I believe.
I personally haven't run into wi-fi problems recently. For a a little while when running a new build of ARHD, I all of a sudden got the wi-fi problems ppl were talking about. Didn't have the problems before that. Switched over to LeeDroid and haven't run into the wi-fi problem since.
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you aren't serious about the iPhone, aren't you ?

im selling mine when i borrow a camera for pics. i made a mistake leaving Samsung. i might get the nexus though. Google wallet might actually work. i have never seen so many duplicate threads, clueless users, and mods choosing when to enforce rules and when not to.

I'm selling mine as soon as it comes back from HTC, should be a brand new one. I won't open it and will sell it straight away and buy a S3.
f.
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Are you guys really sure the Samsung will not have bugs ?
I will stay with my OneX ... i am sure it will be better and better ... and i dnt want such a ugly phone in my pocket lol

muamers said:
Are you guys really sure the Samsung will not have bugs ?
I will stay with my OneX ... i am sure it will be better and better ... and i dnt want such a ugly phone in my pocket lol
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Yeah it is pretty nasty looking isn't it! I also don't like the idea of having 16gb base memory even if it is expandable. I much prefer the 32gb internal memory of the One X over Micro SD as it is so much quicker - and I dont need to fork out even more money for an SD card.
Hmmmm..... This is really annoying. Why couldnt you just get the phone right HTC!!??

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you aren't serious about the iPhone, aren't you ?
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Depends if its actually good. I have an upgrade with att. Will probably use it either way and if it doesn't look good ill just sell it off.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

The question is no different than asking "which should I buy, a M-B E Class or BMW 5 Series?" Both have strengths and weaknesses and neither is immune from issues.
The same applies to the One X vs. SGS3 comparison.
Here's a list of reasons why not to get a One X over a SGS3.
1) You like SAMOLED displays.
2) You need better battery life than the 1800mAh non-removable battery in the One X can provide.
3) You want removable storage.
4) You don't like the One X design or are partial to the SGS3's.
5) You like TouchWiz better than Sense.
6) HTC's new warranty policy for flashing third-party ROMs either scares you or pisses you off.
7) You fancy some of the s/w features like Direct Talk, S-Voice, and Smart Stay.
8) You use $300 plus headphones or have several thousands of dollars’ worth of home A/V equipment and the Wolfson DAC's important.
Here's a list of things that are going to be the same.
1) Initial build quality issues.
2) Initial s/w problems.
3) Variations from display-to-display.
4) Durability and longevity.
5) Excellent development support.
Voice calls, e-mail, MMS, social, and web browsing make up 70% of what people do with smartphones. In those areas it would be hard to tell the two phones apart. Happy decision making.
P.S. – For those on their 9th exchange, now hate HTC for whatever reason, or have expectations no phone ever produced could meet; there’s no need to re-post what you’ve most likely already posted a dozen times. I, and I’m sure others get it; the One X has some launch issues and because of that your life is forever altered.

sticking with it.. does everything I need and it's the sexiest phone on the market right now. so why would I need to move? Plus I'm on a 2 year contract so doesn't justify me breaking my contract or selling my phone for less than its actual worth.

@BarryH I think that's a little unfair. I wasn't trying to run through faults that have already been covered at great length elsewhere on the forum. Nor was I asking for a basic tally of pros and cons of S3 versus the One X.
My aim was to gauge the community's loyalty towards the One X given the faults and flaws that the device shipped with, and whether many would be making the switch over to the S3.
Also, the majority of the problems with the One X are not examples of people being overly picky or entitled - they are cases of the phone simply not doing what it was designed to do. Now I have no idea if or how long it will take HTC to fix them, but that is why I asked what peoples' thoughts about that where in the original post.
Thanks for responding

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@BarryH I think that's a little unfair.
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I wasn't faulting your original question. Sorry if it came across that way. The One X vs. SGS3 comparison/debate will be ongoing for most of the year. I was just trying to provide a check list for people on the fence. I'd guess most people leaving the One X would be going to the SGS3 anyway. I never did answer your original question. I'm getting a SGS3 and using it for a week or two before deciding which phone to keep. And not because I think there's anything wrong with the One X.

HOX: Fail % so high it's not worth buying?

Ok guys, just got my Sensation XE stolen and in need of a new phone. Can't really find any SXE around and the only viable option from HTC is the HOX. BUT THERE ARE SO MANY REPORTS OF PROBLEMS with this phone. Most users are on their second or third one.
I don't want to buy a phone just to send it in to get repaired....
What's up, problem sorted now or are there still bad phones out there?

Sebastian768 said:
Ok guys, just got my Sensation XE stolen and in need of a new phone. Can't really find any SXE around and the only viable option from HTC is the HOX. BUT THERE ARE SO MANY REPORTS OF PROBLEMS with this phone. Most users are on their second or third one.
I don't want to buy a phone just to send it in to get repaired....
What's up, problem sorted now or are there still bad phones out there?
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not if you age a new batch
later SH/HT25 and above

Plus I think with the old HT23 & HT24's it was calculated that about 15% had issues if that... I may be wrong and muffed up the numbers... I think it was 15% at it's highest.

The-Last-Hylian said:
Plus I think with the old HT23 & HT24's it was calculated that about 15% had issues if that... I may be wrong and muffed up the numbers... I think it was 15% at it's highest.
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The media are great at making problems seem a lot bigger than they are too.
You should be okay if you buy one.

Oh yeah, I'm sure that you'll be fine

Got an early HOX batch and ZERO problems!
The only bug that was scaring me(that I didn't get) was the flickering issue but HTC managed to resolved anyway with FW upgrades :good:
I am pretty sure sgs3 got problems too in early stages

Yea the sgs 3 had signal problems. My one x is HT24 and I havent had any issues.

ste1164 said:
Yea the sgs 3 had signal problems. My one x is HT24 and I havent had any issues.
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Same

Have an early HOX as well and havent had any problems from day one. Extremely happy with it so far and getting more and more impressed with every day that passes!!! Wouldnt trade it for the world!!

Bought a HOX at the first week of release. No problems so far, and BTW, it doesnt happen to often that people create topics just to announce that their phone works
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HT23 here, absolutely perfect device. No problems at all.

Got my HOX days after the release, no problems, no nothing, neither on stock nor custom rom. The only thing is that u def. have to flash a custom rom since the stock rom is one hell of a battery eater...

Haven't read a lot in the media, more trolling around here and past experiences with HTC QC.
Incredible S: lost connection with screen, new phone (Warranty)
Sensation XE : Lost WIFI/Wifi error after 1 month, changed something (Warranty)
Sensation XE : Wouldn't turn on one week after I got it back, changed mainboard (Warranty)
I don't want to buy a phone that need to be repaired

animaleyes76 said:
The media are great at making problems seem a lot bigger than they are too.
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So are a minority of unhappy owners on this forum. Mine's a March-build that I've had since April. No issues and it works as well today as it did when I got it. Look at it this way, if you're in to martyrdom and you get a bad specimen, there’s no better forum on XDA to find people to commiserate with.

People should really bear in mind that unhappy people with faulty phones make the most noise, and are the most visible online. You wouldn't really see thousands of people yelling on the internet "OMG MY PHONE IS PERFECTLY FINE!!!! HELP!!!"

Ive had my HOX for over two - three months now and its meant to be in the affected batch but mine is perfect (touch wood, touch wood) unlocked bootloaoder flashed many roms its fine
Go for it

XDA
XDA is prob THE single best way for manufacturers to keep tabs on problems with their devices. If I worked either in HTC QC, R&D or marketing I would read EVERY SINGLE POST HERE. Large scale in-house testing is expensive, but large fail rates even more expensive. The amount of valuable information here is greater than the invaluable.
Developing a new phone demands creativity in the R&D department. A bunch of people sit in a room and throw ideas arround, the more people the more ideas and the more messy it get's. Less people is easier to handle, but it might curbe creativity and they might miss that one crazy guy who has a stupid idea who sets of some genius in the corner....a new company could make a phone just by using XDA as R&D
The thing is, every manufacturers accounting department calculates in a certain DOA/fail rate/warranty repair cost in their budget for each device they make. It's a little bit like "will testing this device more cost us more than the estimated return will?" In a sense (humm humm) phones cost more because they calculate a set cost for failure. Then you have the Marketing department, they look at costs connected to loss of market standings. If they end up loosing too much money on returns and marketing can prove loss av brand value, they spend more money on testing. So, XDA in a way is very important.
It's crowdsourcing phone development.....we get better phones because people complain about the stuff that doesn't work!
If you say XDA is just a bunch of nerds and not real people, they I say real people want tomorrow what the nerds have today. Satisfy the nerd, make money on the non-nerds.

XDA
One more thing, in marketing you have the 1-3 rule. You will tell 3 people when you're not satisfied with service or a product, but only 1 when your happy...

Buying a ONE X

Hi everyone!
I'm a LG O3D user (with great regrets...) and I have the possibility of a (almost) new ONE X, unbranded for €300.
I know that every phone as its issues, and I've read the foruns in search of those issues in the ONE X, but wanted to have a deeper insight on the everyday life with this one.
I really like HTC and having owned a Hero, and knowing the support (at least here in Pt) is good, I'm really thinking of it.
Thank you very much!

I have had no problems with my One X, but from what I have read there are a few things you should check out before buying.
Check the wi-fi signal, GPS signal consistancy.
I think those 2 are the most common problems and the most annoying ones. I read also something about a gap between the screen and case, but not sure about it.
All of those can be checked out easily (10-20 minutes) before buying, so make sure you do that! You would not want to shell out 300 to find out wi-fi does not work, or you GPS is incredibly inacurate.

Thanks for the info!
I'm testing it tomorow or the day after.
Whats your thoughts on the battery life?
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I have had no problems with my One X, but from what I have read there are a few things you should check out before buying.
Check the wi-fi signal, GPS signal consistancy.
I think those 2 are the most common problems and the most annoying ones. I read also something about a gap between the screen and case, but not sure about it.
All of those can be checked out easily (10-20 minutes) before buying, so make sure you do that! You would not want to shell out 300 to find out wi-fi does not work, or you GPS is incredibly inacurate.
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Battery Life
Mouselik said:
Thanks for the info!
I'm testing it tomorow or the day after.
Whats your thoughts on the battery life?
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Battery life is surprisingly good for me. After the first couple days i easily get over 12 hours before reaching 20%. Must say i love that the phone drains almost no battery when listening to music in my experiences.

HyBry said:
I have had no problems with my One X, but from what I have read there are a few things you should check out before buying.
Check the wi-fi signal, GPS signal consistancy.
I think those 2 are the most common problems and the most annoying ones. I read also something about a gap between the screen and case, but not sure about it.
All of those can be checked out easily (10-20 minutes) before buying, so make sure you do that! You would not want to shell out 300 to find out wi-fi does not work, or you GPS is incredibly inacurate.
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The wifi issue normally doesnt substantiate until a couple of weeks in use, and so does the screen flickering issue. So far popular know issues include:
1) Bad battery life (~ 2 hr of screen time)
2) Over heating after 5-10minutes in use
3) GPS issue
4) Screen flex issue
5) Screen flickering (mostly solved)
6) Antenna issue
7) 3G connection
8) Gaps
9) Sense issues
And before you buy this you should pray to your lucky star that you wont get a dud one. I've seen people on this forum going thru so much stress w HTC and this phone.

Battery life there are days I think not bad and on others I ask myself what the hell? Despite having my phone for around 4 or 5 months I still do notice drops of 3-5% in battery life. I can't really make my mind up for this device. I can't tell if htc is going to improve anything on this device anymore or if that's just as good as it gets. It'll be best if you just end up expecting nothing from HTC. That will save you from having expectations that wont be met anyway.
Edit: by the way there is a battery life thread with a trillion posts in it. Just open it and come up with a conclusion yourself. Be warned though, you might see people with around 5 to 6 hours of screen time which seems really questionable to me. I would say the people posting screen times of anywhere between 2 to 4 hours 30 minutes screen time are legit.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

Well, I come from the LG world of not giving a Sh!t about costumers...
How's the HTC support treating those cases?
You think it is a bad buy?
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The wifi issue normally doesnt substantiate until a couple of weeks in use, and so does the screen flickering issue. So far popular know issues include:
1) Bad battery life (~ 2 hr of screen time)
2) Over heating after 5-10minutes in use
3) GPS issue
4) Screen flex issue
5) Screen flickering (mostly solved)
6) Antenna issue
7) 3G connection
8) Gaps
9) Sense issues
And before you buy this you should pray to your lucky star that you wont get a dud one. I've seen people on this forum going thru so much stress w HTC and this phone.
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One X user (Tegra version) since one week. Switched to the CM10 preview this weekend. Very good phone, battery life is on par with the rest. If you check the points mentioned above (also make sure the power and volume buttons are responsive), that sounds like a good deal. ROM community is very active, JB support already almost flawless. Also, the screen is the best I have seen on a phone so far.

Mouselik said:
Well, I come from the LG world of not giving a Sh!t about costumers...
How's the HTC support treating those cases?
You think it is a bad buy?
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Just go get a sgs3. You can expect a crappy design plus a display not as nice as the one x in my opinion. But you also get to have a better performance, little to no lag, much better battery life.probably less hardware faults etc. (You at least know what you can expect and you actually get it)
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Mouselik said:
Well, I come from the LG world of not giving a Sh!t about costumers...
How's the HTC support treating those cases?
You think it is a bad buy?
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Honestly I think HTC has been playing the blame games and time buying strategies to the extent of ignoring customers and treating like crap. But still better than LG as far as I have known. And as someone has said, if you want a better chance of getting a drama free phone better get the SGS3, as much as I hate Samsung. But you're not gonna have that beautiful hardware and AMAZING screen (funny how i say this since I dont own it lol).

This is a co-worker who's selling its ONE X, so no S3 option for me...
I'm having a lot of trouble in knowing what to focus on, because from what I see (read), there are issues (as with every single phone), and I think the important part is the support by HTC being good.
On that point (HTC support), what do you think? Any experience with them?
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Just go get a sgs3. You can expect a crappy design plus a display not as nice as the one x in my opinion. But you also get to have a better performance, little to no lag, much better battery life.probably less hardware faults etc. (You at least know what you can expect and you actually get it)
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Mouselik said:
This is a co-worker who's selling its ONE X, so no S3 option for me...
I'm having a lot of trouble in knowing what to focus on, because from what I see (read), there are issues (as with every single phone), and I think the important part is the support by HTC being good.
On that point (HTC support), what do you think? Any experience with them?
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Long term htc users: "HTC supporrt is great, they might lack a little at first, but sooner or later(probably they mean later) they will just nail the update properly and it will all function nicely."
first time HTC user(myself): i've yet to see any of the support and i honestly feel like i'm not in good hands but i'm still open for them to prove it. The only reason i haven't completely given up on htc is because of the people who have been with htc for a much longer time. They seem to have a much different opinion of HTC and their updates and what not.
Oh yeah, not to forget, rooting/flashing can void your warranty *HIGH FIVE*
in my opinion to have your HOX function properly, you're gonna want to root.
edit: since it's a co-worker you're probably going to be getting it cheaper, right? Which will probably make the OneX more worthy of its price.
First thing you're going to want to do is check if his bootloader says "unlocked" or "relocked" or "locked" - this would make it possible for you to lower the price and get it even cheaper

Well on the update point, I think LG just trumps every single brand on the market... They simple don't give us any... LOL
Regarding the list of possible issues, do you think it can be easily observed? or its more of a wear-by-time kind of thing?
shadehh said:
Long term htc users: "HTC supporrt is great, they might lack a little at first, but sooner or later(probably they mean later) they will just nail the update properly and it will all function nicely."
first time HTC user(myself): i've yet to see any of the support and i honestly feel like i'm not in good hands but i'm still open for them to prove it. The only reason i haven't completely given up on htc is because of the people who have been using htc for a much longer time , they seem to have a much different opinion of HTC and their updates and what not.
Oh yeah, not to forget, rooting/flashing can void your warranty *HIGH FIVE*
in my opinion to have your HOX function properly, you're gonna want to root.
edit: since it's a co-worker you're probably going to be getting it cheaper, right? Which will probably make the OneX more worthy of its price.
First thing you're going to want to do is check if his bootloader says "unlocked" or "relocked" or "locked" - this would make it possible for you to lower the price and get it even cheaper
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Mouselik said:
Well on the update point, I think LG just trumps every single brand on the market... They simple don't give us any... LOL
Regarding the list of possible issues, do you think it can be easily observed? or its more of a wear-by-time kind of thing?
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Honestly! When i got this phone i was the happiest person on earth until i noticed a few problems here and there and this just ruined the overall user experience. There's something about this phone that tells me i want to keep it. Design is gorgeous, sometimes i just turn the phone around just to admire the awesome look of how it's built. When the problems start to pile up, however, you get really unsatisfied.
With later batches i heard the phone is supposed to be pretty good and problem-free. I believe the main issues that you won't see immediately is the WLAN issue and maybe a bit of a screen gap. Haven't really been hearing much of the flicker issues anymore.
How to notice the WiFi issue i'd suggest a google search or for you to look around @ xda forums. I don't really feel like explaining it. Actually, youtube should help you in this case --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKCJ4Ab2tIo

Well, being a smartphone user for some time, I can relate with that feeling...
I'm going to buy it, sell my O3D, and may the gods of smartphone be with me!
Thank you so much for your help.
P.S. It will cost me €300, being that here in Pt, a new unlocked one costs €700...
shadehh said:
Honestly! When i got this phone i was the happiest person on earth until i noticed a few problems here and there and this just ruined the overall user experience. There's something about this phone that tells me i want to keep it. Design is gorgeous, sometimes i just turn the phone around just to admire the awesome look of how it's built. When the problems start to pile up, however, you get really unsatisfied.
With later batches i heard the phone is supposed to be pretty good and problem-free. I believe the main issues that you won't see immediately is the WLAN issue and maybe a bit of a screen gap. Haven't really been hearing much of the flicker issues anymore.
How to notice the WiFi issue i'd suggest a google search or for you to look around @ xda forums. I don't really feel like explaining it. Actually, youtube should help you in this case --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKCJ4Ab2tIo
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Mouselik said:
Well, being a smartphone user for some time, I can relate with that feeling...
I'm going to buy it, sell my O3D, and may the gods of smartphone be with me!
Thank you so much for your help.
P.S. It will cost me €300, being that here in Pt, a new unlocked one costs €700...
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In this case, the phone is well worth it's price. Had you stated that in the beginning i think no one here would have even wanted to start a discussion

Hehe. It was my jedi mind trick to allure you guys to the discussion!
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In this case, the phone is well worth it's price. Had you stated that in the beginning i think no one here would have even wanted to start a discussion
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I wouldn't worry too much about it, anything that goes wrong will be covered by the warranty anway.

Mouselik said:
Hi everyone!
I'm a LG O3D user (with great regrets...) and I have the possibility of a (almost) new ONE X, unbranded for €300.
I know that every phone as its issues, and I've read the foruns in search of those issues in the ONE X, but wanted to have a deeper insight on the everyday life with this one.
I really like HTC and having owned a Hero, and knowing the support (at least here in Pt) is good, I'm really thinking of it.
Thank you very much!
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Buying a new one will have less chances of defects, as new models are more bugfree
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Well,
The seller (co-worker and friend) reports none of the liste issues. No wi-fi problem, no screen problem, and general usage with no hick-ups.
Is used it for about a month. And, furtunatly for me, he's more of an iPhone guy hehe
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Buying a new one will have less chances of defects, as new models are more bugfree
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My 10th replacement phone.

Ok,
I just to share my pain with you guys. I keep reading you guys on the HOX update thread. I reckon by the time I get a phone without fault, it'll come with Jellybean straight out of the box.
I'm with Carphone Warehouse.
They are brilliant at arranging a swap. But, not so good at sending me a working phone it seems. I'll spare you the details about the issues, but they have all been genuine.
Spoke to a manager today, who said to send the phone to their office, and they will have a look at it. And they will inspect my replacement before they send it out.
However, I'm on the second month of my new contract now, and it's basically 2 months without the phone I ordered. I don't see the point in kicking off over the phone, as most of the time, they don't really have the authority to do much. Plus, it's no good for the blood pressure if you end up arguing with a jerk.
Far better to take your time and write a letter to head office, spelling out all the issues, the timeline and what you want as a resolution. And then sleep on it. Edit it, and sleep on it again before sending it.
If you were me, what would you ask them for? (apart from a working phone, but hopefully that is in the bag if they truly are going to inspect it)
I don't mind stupid comments as long as you give a sensible one as well. I could do with some light relief.

If you were me, what would you ask them for?
a galaxy s3 and be done with it, flawless first time
oh and it being a better phone will be a bonus to
it took me 3 one x's to get a decent one, gave that to the missus and got a gs3, its a much better phone

Your 2 months line rental back at a minimum
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If you just want a phone ask if you can swap for a gs3(I had this option and didn't go for it because I don't find the gs3 better than the one x). If you still want a one x, let then let you pick it up in-store, maybe let you into the store room and puck the box personally. Even say if you can get the one x+ for free when it comes out
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oliseo said:
Ok,
I just to share my pain with you guys. I keep reading you guys on the HOX update thread. I reckon by the time I get a phone without fault, it'll come with Jellybean straight out of the box.
I'm with Carphone Warehouse.
They are brilliant at arranging a swap. But, not so good at sending me a working phone it seems. I'll spare you the details about the issues, but they have all been genuine.
Spoke to a manager today, who said to send the phone to their office, and they will have a look at it. And they will inspect my replacement before they send it out.
However, I'm on the second month of my new contract now, and it's basically 2 months without the phone I ordered. I don't see the point in kicking off over the phone, as most of the time, they don't really have the authority to do much. Plus, it's no good for the blood pressure if you end up arguing with a jerk.
Far better to take your time and write a letter to head office, spelling out all the issues, the timeline and what you want as a resolution. And then sleep on it. Edit it, and sleep on it again before sending it.
If you were me, what would you ask them for? (apart from a working phone, but hopefully that is in the bag if they truly are going to inspect it)
I don't mind stupid comments as long as you give a sensible one as well. I could do with some light relief.
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I would wonder why I wouldn't ask for a different phone after the third or fourth time.
Edit: Just pulled up reviews for CPW. They kinda suck if you look at their reviews. Perhaps it's not the phone, but who you've gotten 10 phones from.

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I would wonder why I wouldn't ask for a different phone after the third or fourth time.
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Yes, they did offer me the SG3.
I don't like the screen. Nor the dialler. Or the design.
As for why I different ask for a different phone.
Kind of like those situations where you're waiting for a bus. And you've been waiting that long, you could have walked, but didn't, because you knew the next one would be here in a minute.
I've spoken to them, and if they don't send me out a working phone, without flaws, then I will be getting an SG3.
(but then, whose to say I won't have the same issues with the SG3!! I might just be one of those really unlucky SOB's...)
I mean, given probability, you would have thought that by the 8th one, I would have got a working one.
What I don't want to do, is end up over on the SG3 forum, with the same title, except it saying
My 10th replacement SG3.
And 4 months into my contract.
Yes, you're right. Definitely the 2 months line rental.

You have my sympathy, it took me 4 replacements on the 3 network to get a usable phone and I thought I had it bad, you're doing well not to lose it, sounds like Carphone Warehoue are being decent at least with swapping them out each time rather than a repair.
Then again, with 3 i'm still on 1.28 with bugs galore so it's still not 100%. I would definitely be asking for the 2 months back as you haven't had the benefit of the service you're paying for. I really would have thought HTC would have these problems sorted by now, I'm very surprised.
I would probably at this point even ask for a refund, hold out a month or two and maybe either try again or opt for another phone if something else you fancied came along.
If they are going to check out the new replacement first, maybe give them this chance and then consider your options. Good luck!

@Op,
10 new replacements in 2 months does make me think your story is crap, that's how I see it.

Laurentius26 said:
@Op,
10 new replacements in 2 months does make me think your story is crap, that's how I see it.
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I'd have gone through two. Maybe three. But ten? Unless there was a bad run and CPW got all of them the odds of getting that many defective devices in a row are astronomical. Early in the launch when the One X was at its worst the "perfect vs. non-perfect poll" showed 70% declared perfect by their owners. Out of ten that's seven that were fault free. OP, you seem to have bad karma with the One X. I'd suggest not tempting the gods any longer and finding a substitute.

I also say total crap,
Carphone warehouse wouldn't even replace it 10 times, they would have offered a different phone or scrapped the contract long before now.
I've had one HOX, (release day 5th april)
The one I'm using now is the same phone, it's faultless.
Oh, and I got it from Carphone Warehouse.
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Laurentius26 said:
@Op,
10 new replacements in 2 months does make me think your story is crap, that's how I see it.
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So true :good:
Op hasn't mentioned what the "fault or flaw" is that he has experienced. Utter Bull crap if you ask me.
I feel so sorry for htc...because of these people that send their phones back for a creaking screen or flashing lcd's bla bla bla. It is breaking htc to the point of needing a bail-out from the Taiwanese Banks!
I've owned my One X since May and experienced all of the bugs that have been discussed in these forums but I never gave up on her, she's been wonderful to me. Luckily I don't have any hardware defects and accept that she is what she is a hot & sexy and occasionally sometimes difficult to be with. But I love my One X to the end.
Sorry for the rant but really come on 10 returns?? Why didn't you switch service providers after the 3rd return? And next time tell us what flaw's you were experiencing other wise we'll just think you're talking utter crap...end

Well I have just received my fifth replacement (First four because of GPS issues), and this one I found, to my dismay, has a faulty touch screen. I.e. the top third of the screen doesn't register any touch, and I can't drag notification bar down, or search for apps in Play Store etc etc.
This one was FROM HTC.... ugh

Wow 10 replacements does sound bad indeed. Maybe you are just to picky, or they keep sending you the same phone
i got mine since it came out. The only problem with it is the creacking on the left side. It does seem annoying sometimes but not enough to start bugging htc or complain about sh*t quality. I love my phone as it is. Theres nothing perfect in this world

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Wow 10 replacements does sound bad indeed. Maybe you are just to picky, or they keep sending you the same phone
i got mine since it came out. The only problem with it is the creacking on the left side. It does seem annoying sometimes but not enough to start bugging htc or complain about sh*t quality. I love my phone as it is. Theres nothing perfect in this world
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Yea mine also seems to have that issue and the light leak at the bottom on a black screen, but it's not enough for me to send it back. I only had one issue with the phone after I got it and that was a faulty SIM card, but my Service provider, MTN Just swapped it the next day. I love my phone and am running JB ROM now. it makes all the difference. 10 swaps seems like a picky user or you must have been a terrible person in your previous life.

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So true :good:
Op hasn't mentioned what the "fault or flaw" is that he has experienced. Utter Bull crap if you ask me.
I feel so sorry for htc...because of these people that send their phones back for a creaking screen or flashing lcd's bla bla bla. It is breaking htc to the point of needing a bail-out from the Taiwanese Banks!
I've owned my One X since May and experienced all of the bugs that have been discussed in these forums but I never gave up on her, she's been wonderful to me. Luckily I don't have any hardware defects and accept that she is what she is a hot & sexy and occasionally sometimes difficult to be with. But I love my One X to the end.
Sorry for the rant but really come on 10 returns?? Why didn't you switch service providers after the 3rd return? And next time tell us what flaw's you were experiencing other wise we'll just think you're talking utter crap...end
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Well just so you know HTC/retailers/carriers dont just keep the returned phones. They resell them to other customers in different manners depending on how honest the party is. HTC is having financial problems because people just dont buy their phones to begin with. I just started working at a phone store and the people there push the SGS3 like crazy and customers just ask about IP4S )
And just because you like the ideal design/ concept/ the brand doesnt make the messy production acceptable. Idk about other major Android phone releases, but I've seen so many people who had to swap A COUPLE OF times just to get a decent one. That was a bit shocking. And I've seen people who claimed to have a perfect handset in the beginning now have issues with the wifi-antenna. SO just a reminder for those of you HTC police, before chastising the disgruntled customers, think about karma. Your perfect phones may be the next one in the line to be sent back to customer service and I'll be eagerly waiting for the story about your experience with HTC repair, especially those you that live in the UK.
PS: Just to say preemptively that Im not a Samsung/ Apple/ Sony fan boy. HTC is still my most favourite Android manufacturer but that doesnt mean I need to suck up to their horrendous quality control.

i call bull **** 10 phones u are either the unluckiest person alive or your trolling

Please, I wanna c a picture of ur face. Please.
Enviado desde mi HTC One X

@ averygagaanroid I totally agree with you.
My personal experience with htc thus far has been exceptional and the three gorgeous phone's I've owned from them in the last 5-6 years have been a Hero, Desire and One X and yes a have found bugs but I was patient enough and now I still have these perfect working phone's now.
I only hope that htc pull's through these hard times and comes out stronger because I will be buying my next phone from htc in the next 18 months.
What network are you working for?

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@ averygagaanroid I totally agree with you.
My personal experience with htc thus far has been exceptional and the three gorgeous phone's I've owned from them in the last 5-6 years have been a Hero, Desire and One X and yes a have found bugs but I was patient enough and now I still have these perfect working phone's now.
I only hope that htc pull's through these hard times and comes out stronger because I will be buying my next phone from htc in the next 18 months.
What network are you working for?
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Optus and Virgin in Australia.

i work at CPW, please P/M me a customer number or transaction number for any of the 10 exchanges so that i can confirm/refute your claims for all these fine people