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Sorry for the dumb question, but a full nandroid backup, is done how? With titanium, or rom manager. Like I said sorry for the dumb question but everything I read just confused me. I'm really not that dumb just need some because I confused myself. Thanks!
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I am new to this stuff but I learned pretty quick because I truly love my Evo so I want the best for it! (roms/kernels) but I over think everything so I need a few dumb questions answered from time to time...
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Nandroid backup is done through the recovery menu. Use titanium backup for the apps, sms backup for the texts, and for the contacts, go to contacts, hit menu then export to SD CARD.
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They aren't dumb questions, you're just starting out. But:
1. Titanium backup is to backup your apps and system, in case you do a clean wipe. backup your apps every so often, especially when you changing roms.
2. If on clockwork recovery, you can backup your rom using it.
3. You can manually backup by turning the off the phone, powering back up, but holding vol+down ad you do, and then in the bootloader screen. Once there, select recovery, then go to backup/restore.
Thanks roxx, you cleared up what I said. You always seem to answer my questions or be in the same thread as me.
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Cool thanks! I know how to flash roms through rom manager and kernels in recovery. I thought I was doing a nandroid backup by backing up my stock rom before flashing a new one. So I just boot into recovery (rom manager,or root manager) can't remember if it's root manager? But get into recovery and it will say nandroid backup? Once again thanks for helping me. I want to switch to a non-sense rom but don't wanna mess up my Evo!
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Re read your answer and got my other question answered thanks all
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Got it! Nandroid backup = backup/restore! So if I do a nandroid backup it will backup my phone/rom/etc... As it is now?
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jacoballen22 said:
Thanks roxx, you cleared up what I said. You always seem to answer my questions or be in the same thread as me.
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Anytime man, and you made perfect sense. And I'm always floating around.
Just_Josh said:
Cool thanks! I know how to flash roms through rom manager and kernels in recovery. I thought I was doing a nandroid backup by backing up my stock rom before flashing a new one. So I just boot into recovery (rom manager,or root manager) can't remember if it's root manager? But get into recovery and it will say nandroid backup? Once again thanks for helping me. I want to switch to a non-sense rom but don't wanna mess up my Evo!
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Well you can boot into recovery from rom manager, just select reboot into recovery. And I believe you're referring to the bootloader screen. And it only says "nandroid' if you're on amon_ra recovery, but nandroid/backup are the exact same thing. On clockwork, navigate to backup/restore, then backup..and it'll take about 2-5 minutes. After that, go back to the main menu, and wipe factory/data, cache, and then go under advanced and wipe the dalvik cache. After that, install zip from sdcard > install zip > select your rom. And when you boot up, log in, blah blah, then use titanium backup to restore your apps but NOT system settings, or you can get some force closes.
If that's the case, why do I need to flash back to stock rom before flashing a new one? If I'm backing up my phone with a custom rom? Or do I flash back to stock then do a nandroid? You can stop me anytime...lol..I am normal...i swear I am
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Just_Josh said:
If that's the case, why do I need to flash back to stock rom before flashing a new one? If I'm backing up my phone with a custom rom? Or do I flash back to stock then do a nandroid? You can stop me anytime...lol..I am normal...i swear I am
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Lawlz, you don't have to flash back to the original stock rom before flashing a new one. You just backup your current rom, then flash the new one. You always backup befpre flashing in case something bad happens.
1. Backup/nandroid current rom
2. Wipe factory/data, cache, dalvik cache
3. Flash new rom
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And its good to ask questions.
Wow THANK YOU! That makes my life soo much easier. Thank everyone I think I now what I'm doing now and not just doing it! You guys rock!
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Wow THANK YOU! That makes my life soo much easier. Thank everyone I think I now what I'm doing now and not just doing it! You guys rock!
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Anytime, and glad you've got it clear. Always here to help if ya ever need anything.
If they used the proper term, it might be much less confusing. Backups made from the recovery menu are synonymous with making an image of the phone's entire file structure (similar to acronis trueimage for windows). This includes all the system files, applications, settings, and any related customizations.
Titanium backup on the other hand serves the function of baking up an individual application and its' associated data. I don't think there's an equivalent of this on the pc, but you get the idea.
I still don't know where this term 'nandroid' comes from. I've seen it used both as a noun and verb on here, which only complicates matters for those not familiar with the android terminology.
gpz1100 said:
If they used the proper term, it might be much less confusing. Backups made from the recovery menu are synonymous with making an image of the phone's entire file structure (similar to acronis trueimage for windows). This includes all the system files, applications, settings, and any related customizations.
Titanium backup on the other hand serves the function of baking up an individual application and its' associated data. I don't think there's an equivalent of this on the pc, but you get the idea.
I still don't know where this term 'nandroid' comes from. I've seen it used both as a noun and verb on here, which only complicates matters for those not familiar with the android terminology.
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'Nandroid' come from amon_ra, its what its listed from you when backup. Nandroid backup/restore. I personally don't know where it came from, but that's where people get it from.
I repeat what I hear, so nandroid could mean asswipe for all I know lol I never looked it up.
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jacoballen22 said:
I repeat what I hear, so nandroid could mean asswipe for all I know lol I never looked it up.
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I think it was a coined term relating to android, as that is the root of the word.
Nand is the type of flash memory that is used internally on our phones for the android system.
Nand + Android = Nandroid
I'm guessing that's how Amon came up with the name.
ckombo said:
Nand is the type of flash memory that is used internally on our phones for the android system.
Nand + Android = Nandroid
I'm guessing that's how Amon came up with the name.
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Exactly how.
Hi guys if I'm coming from arconium(I made a backup) and I already flashed the CM9 by FXP can I just simply restore my arconium rom if ever I want to go back again? Or it has something to do with the kernel? Thanks!
First you have to flash DooMKernel again and then you can restore your backup.
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Thanks pal! I thought I can just simply restore my backup. Anyway thanks for answering my dumb question. Hoho
A friend created a nandroid and Titanium backup for me, and my phone is rooted. I'm currently on ICS and I want to go back to GB, Do I have to Restore Epic 4G Touch With Pre-Rooted Stock Gingerbread Firmware — EL29? or can I just use nandroid recovery since it's like a full system image right?
So confused. Want to go back to old GB without losing apps or settings. Please help?
You can restore the nandroid from a safe recovery like EL26.
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Are you on stock FF18? What kernel/recovery are you using?
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Are you on stock FF18? What kernel/recovery are you using?
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N00B here, seriously. I was a WEBOS fan and I rooted there but it's difficult for me to understand the terms for Android and the fragmentation doesn't help
Model: SPH-D710
Android: 4.04
Baseband:S710.10.S.FF18
Kernel:3.0.15-SPH-D710.FF18-CL663858 [email protected] #3
Build: IMM76I.FF18
Does that help?
Thanks guys for your patience!
odajennys said:
N00B here, seriously. I was a WEBOS fan and I rooted there but it's difficult for me to understand the terms for Android and the fragmentation doesn't help
Model: SPH-D710
Android: 4.04
Baseband:S710.10.S.FF18
Kernel:3.0.15-SPH-D710.FF18-CL663858 [email protected] #3
Build: IMM76I.FF18
Does that help?
Thanks guys for your patience!
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Yes that helps. If you don't like ICS (FF18) ODIN back to EL29 (Gingerbread). thats the safest way or to keep what you had under your backup; ODIN Direct boot kernel here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662295 its under the GB touchwiz based kernels. Flash that kernel, it will only boot to CWM and then restore your backup. But to let you know, there are better custom ICS ROMs that are very smooth and stable. Just make sure you use the safe kernel/recovery like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767421 Then you can safely wipe and flash any ICS ROMs you choose.
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You can restore the nandroid from a safe recovery like EL26.
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I downloaded this: SPH-D710.EL29_CL852097_ROOTED-oc-sfx
but will it delete my apps, settings, msgs, etc?
It seems like it will factory restore and wipe everything>
Is there a way to just use the backup and reset it to then? If so can you please dumb down instructions and what it will do? I really really appreciate any help. I'm sure that once I go through it, it will make more sense but at this time, I'm overwhelmed by all the different setups and instructions from different places.
All I want is to restore a backup I have with GB. What is the easiest way to do that without losing info?
odajennys said:
I downloaded this: SPH-D710.EL29_CL852097_ROOTED-oc-sfx
but will it delete my apps, settings, msgs, etc?
It seems like it will factory restore and wipe everything>
Is there a way to just use the backup and reset it to then? If so can you please dumb down instructions and what it will do? I really really appreciate any help. I'm sure that once I go through it, it will make more sense but at this time, I'm overwhelmed by all the different setups and instructions from different places.
All I want is to restore a backup I have with GB. What is the easiest way to do that without losing info?
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Ok get titanium back or a backup app. Then back up all your apps, just apps not system settings. then with titanium back up you can make a flashable zip. odin back to EL29 + CWM. let it boot up. Then power off, reboot into recovery. Flash Titanium backup Zip. Reboot. the titanium backup app will be on your phone. then restore apps only, not apps with data as ICS is very different. All done
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Ok get titanium back or a backup app. Then back up all your apps, just apps not system settings. then with titanium back up you can make a flashable zip. odin back to EL29 + CWM. let it boot up. Then power off, reboot into recovery. Flash Titanium backup Zip. Reboot. the titanium backup app will be on your phone. then restore apps only, not apps with data as ICS is very different. All done
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Ok will try, thanks! What's this nandroid thing all about then?
Nandroids are used to restore backups. They are backups. If you backed up a GB rom. You can restore all your settings as long as you are on a GB rom.
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Yes that helps. If you don't like ICS (FF18) ODIN back to EL29 (Gingerbread). thats the safest way or to keep what you had under your backup; ODIN Direct boot kernel here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662295 its under the GB touchwiz based kernels. Flash that kernel, it will only boot to CWM and then restore your backup. But to let you know, there are better custom ICS ROMs that are very smooth and stable. Just make sure you use the safe kernel/recovery like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767421 Then you can safely wipe and flash any ICS ROMs you choose.
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I would love to LOVE ICS but the only thing I want my SGII to do without apps or widgets that I have to turn on and off to use:
Control orientation: I sometimes read in bed and it irks me that I have to use an app called Autorotate Switch to stop it from switching views, it does work but sometimes cuts off the top of a chapter. I can also hear it "fighting" with the system to prevent it from rotating based on the angle I'm holding it.
Control Brightness: The lowest setting isn't dim enough and I have to use a screen filter. Now with ICS it autoadjusts the lighting even when the toggle is off the setting to adjust brightness automatically! I hate this new feature.
Social Hub: I actually like this since it integrates msg and email and fb together. The new ICS lets me easily delete without confirmation, something that's good, but it broke update syncing contacts and the emails are huge and it's a big mess with scrolling and spacing.
Camera: All I want is to assign a shutter button to a camera
Phone: I want to call out in speaker automatically. I had set this up in WebOs and it was awesome especially for driving.
I seriously would consider trying out other ROMs if they can help me do this...
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Nandroids are used to restore backups. They are backups. If you backed up a GB rom. You can restore all your settings as long as you are on a GB rom.
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How would I do this? My friend made an nandroid in GB BEFORE I upgraded to ICS. Please and thank you in advance!
That is the GB direct boot kernel that I linked it the previous reply. Flash that kernel/recovery in ODIN or mobile ODIN. Then restore back up in backup/restore option in CWM recovery.
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That is the GB direct boot kernel that I linked it the previous reply. Flash that kernel/recovery in ODIN or mobile ODIN. Then restore back up in backup/restore option in CWM recovery.
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Finally figured things out. Back to good old GB. Thanks!
Your welcome. Sorry at work couldn't reply right away. Glad to see its all good.
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Have a newb question fellas. I have an android backup of my system that I keep pretty current. Backup was made with CWM. If after installing what appears to be a very reliable ROM, will the recovery provided with the BluKuban allow me to restore to my original rooted Gingerbread ROM ??
I've often heard the expression that "you get on the train or get run over by it" ..... I really want to stay up to date with all the ICS progress but I am sooo paranoid about not being able to get back to where I started if I have any problems. Any advice or encouragement to just go for it appreciated. Thanks to all of you for all you do. If it weren't for you folks I wouldn't be rooted right now enjoying the hell out of my Epic4GT.
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Nope have to be in the same recovery and since the rom is different it can't be done.
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You could however flash the recovery you used to make the backups and then wipe and restore the nandroid.
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Nope have to be in the same recovery and since the rom is different it can't be done.
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This is completely false. Yes you can restore a Nandroid. It will contain the kernel used to make the Nandroids., and the Kuban kernel is a safe recovery.
Ravaged Pheonix said:
This is completely false. Yes you can restore a Nandroid. It will contain the kernel used to make the Nandroids., and the Kuban kernel is a safe recovery.
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Thank you for stopping the misinformation train
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Ravaged Pheonix said:
This is completely false. Yes you can restore a Nandroid. It will contain the kernel used to make the Nandroids., and the Kuban kernel is a safe recovery.
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Thank you for the response. I now have one foot on the platform and one foot on the train. Ravaged Phoenix I appreciate the response.
If you need any assistance or are still unsure of anything, feel free to pm me. I will help in any way I can.
True, you can restore a backup from the recovery, why would the version you are restoring make any difference?
I am new to rooting, mods etc. I have managed to get the Cyanogen 10 onto my Sprint Galaxy S3 and put the voicemail app. I find that the phone loses it's data connection intermittently and also sometimes the phone wont turn on and I have to hit the power button for a reboot.
I have searched these forums and the cyanogen ones and there is loose mention of this in posts dated back to August but nothing more recent.
1.) Is this a known bug and/or has it been fixed?
2) Is there a ROM that doesnt suffer from these bugs?
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Wrong area to post my friend!
I have SENSATIONS and its WICKED!!
These are questions to be asked in the cm threads
Where is the correct place to post?
bigdaddyo811 said:
Where is the correct place to post?
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Where you downloaded the rom bro
bigdaddyo811 said:
Where is the correct place to post?
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Shadefactor said:
Where you downloaded the rom bro
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While the response given to you is usually correct, you do not meet the requirements to post in a development section. So I have moved your question to the correct section. (Q&A section)
If you have a question about a particular rom that you downloaded, then you will post the question in that particular rom's thread. If it is just a general question, then you post the question in here. (Q&A section).
Development section is strictly reserved for development related items. No question threads should be started in there.
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I am new to rooting, mods etc. I have managed to get the Cyanogen 10 onto my Sprint Galaxy S3 and put the voicemail app. I find that the phone loses it's data connection intermittently and also sometimes the phone wont turn on and I have to hit the power button for a reboot.
I have searched these forums and the cyanogen ones and there is loose mention of this in posts dated back to August but nothing more recent.
1.) Is this a known bug and/or has it been fixed?
2) Is there a ROM that doesnt suffer from these bugs?
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What voicemail app are you using? I'm just curious, I don't think it's related to your issues. I am using Google Voice, but I'd like to know what else is available.
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I'm very new to all this and really needed help...
1 - I am rooted and looking to run cyanogenmod and a kernel that supports over and under clocking...I have gaaps zip and the stable cyanogenmod zip on my phone. I did a nandroid backup, a titanium backup and backed up by contacts to Google.
2 - Should I do another nandroid backup when I do a factory reset (before flashing rom) that way I have a backup of the phone completely stock?
3 - After flashing I can reinstall my apps with the free version of titanium backup correct? And will the backup be wiped if it's on internal storage during factory reset?
4 - And do I do a nandroid restore after flashing rom or is that just in case something goes wrong or I don't like the rom?
5 - If I want to over and under clock I still need as kernel right? Basically I just want better battery life...does cyanogenmod generally improve battery life?
Sorry for all the questions I've been doing alot of reading and just not started watching YouTube videos...just wanna be cautious
...thank you
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beyeond said:
I'm very new to all this and really needed help...
1 - I am rooted and looking to run cyanogenmod and a kernel that supports over and under clocking...I have gaaps zip and the stable cyanogenmod zip on my phone. I did a nandroid backup, a titanium backup and backed up by contacts to Google.
2 - Should I do another nandroid backup when I do a factory reset (before flashing rom) that way I have a backup of the phone completely stock?
3 - After flashing I can reinstall my apps with the free version of titanium backup correct? And will the backup be wiped if it's on internal storage during factory reset?
4 - And do I do a nandroid restore after flashing rom or is that just in case something goes wrong or I don't like the rom?
5 - If I want to over and under clock I still need as kernel right? Basically I just want better battery life...does cyanogenmod generally improve battery life?
Sorry for all the questions I've been doing alot of reading and just not started watching YouTube videos...just wanna be cautious
...thank you
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I always do a nandroid right before a ROM flash. Then delete any older nandroids I have. You just want to be able to restore your device to it's state immediately before the flash if anything goes wrong.
Your backups will not be wiped. You will be able to restore them, but I seriously suggest purchasing the full version of TB.
Restoring the nandroid will give you exactly what you made the nandroid of. Its a back up if you do want to go back, or if something goes wrong. Only restore it when you want to return to it. I.e. if you don't like CM or if it's not working right.
You need the kernel to oc. The stock CM kernel doesn't do it. Make sure the kernel that you are flashing is meant for the ROM. Otherwise you're in for trouble.
Good questions for a beginner. Good luck.
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Thanks so much for the help. If I have a problem with cm10 I can just restore the nandroid, I don't have to un flash it or anything? Just boot to recovery and restore and that's it?
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Thanks so much for the help. If I have a problem with cm10 I can just restore the nandroid, I don't have to un flash it out anything? Just not to recovery and restore and that's it?
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That's right. You can just restore it through recovery.
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mjben said:
That's right. You can just restore it through recovery.
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Thanks. One more question. I downloaded the stable version. Its that what I want? If they have a stable one then why do the nightlies.keep getting made? Are they just basically daily beta versions? If I get the latest nightly would I have to do this whole flashing and restoring my apps every time I want the new nightly? Thanks for helping me guys.
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I usually stick with the stable release. Not that I know of anything specifically wrong with any nightly; I also haven't read any of the change logs to see what the differences are. I would assume, like you seem to, that the team would be working on improvements.
When I have flashed nightlies, I didn't wipe data and restore apps. Just flashes the nightly, gapps, then clean caches.
BTW, a lot of people do say that restoring apps and their data with TB to a new ROM causes problems. I believe this could be true, but I do it anyway. If any app does give me trouble after a restore I deal with it individually.
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I usually stick with the stable release. Not that I know of anything specifically wrong with any nightly; I also haven't read any of the change logs to see what the differences are. I would assume, like you seem to, that the team would be working on improvements.
When I have flashed nightlies, I didn't wipe data and restore apps. Just flashes the nightly, gapps, then clean caches.
BTW, a lot of people do say that restoring apps and their data with TB to a new ROM causes problems. I believe this could be true, but I do it anyway. If any app does give me trouble after a restore I deal with it individually.
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Can anyone else confirm issues with using titanium backup on a newly flashed rom? That would seem like a pain for those that mod their phone almost daily..
Sprint Galaxy S3 - JB/Stock ROM rooted