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So I Wonder whats a good app to kill tasks and what should be the regular apps running on the background..
With 4.0.4 stock i was always on 320~350 now on AOKP+ francos im over 450, so what could I kill and would be a normal ram use?
Again what could be a good task killer
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msedek said:
So I Wonder whats a good app to kill tasks and what should be the regular apps running on the background..
With 4.0.4 stock i was always on 320~350 now on AOKP+ francos im over 450, so what could I kill and would be a normal ram use?
Again what could be a good task killer
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the best thing for android is u DONT need to care about ram. android is way smarter than u think. it kills apps when it needs by itself, so u dont need a task killer
You have a Galaxy Nexus... Don't worry about ram usage. The phone will work at the same speed if you have 500mb of ram or 5000
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msedek said:
So I Wonder whats a good app to kill tasks and what should be the regular apps running on the background..
With 4.0.4 stock i was always on 320~350 now on AOKP+ francos im over 450, so what could I kill and would be a normal ram use?
Again what could be a good task killer
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Don't use a task killer. Free RAM is wasted RAM. Stop being OCD about it and just let the device run.
RAM memory! Ha. That's as annoying and funny as PIN number!
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System panel is far and away the best.
neederishelp said:
You have a Galaxy Nexus... Don't worry about ram usage. The phone will work at the same speed if you have 500mb of ram or 5000
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I ask cuz I ve read some threads from people complaning about the phone rebooting after reaching nearly 600mb ram and my phone would reboot by itself like once per week wich its annoying
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msedek said:
I ask cuz I ve read some threads from people complaning about the phone rebooting after reaching nearly 600mb ram and my phone would reboot by itself like once per week wich its annoying
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The reboot problem pretty surely has nothing to do with running out of RAM.
hey guys.
today I installed resurrection remix v3.0.5 on my friends s2. in the aroma installer I selected to install the stock CM10 kernel.
then in about phone, hardware info there was listed 825MB RAM!!!!!
and we also have 1GB ram, and here with us we have only 678MB RAM available...
so both phones have 1GB ram, and yes I know a part is OS reserved, but why needs the GN OS more ram than the S2 OS?
Free ram is wasted ram.
My wife also have s2 and same rom as you say(....remix) but not fast as my GNex on stock firmware.
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I find it's best not to worry about RAM in android devices. Unless you're actually seeing decreased performance.
It just so happens that our chip set had one of the fastest RAM speeds when it released.
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It matters about how much RAM we have total
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The ram missing is used by the GPU. 698 is whats available to cpu
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This doesn't answer your question and will probably add more confusion as to why we're missing so much RAM but I think Android Jelly Bean uses more system RAM.
Fast forward to 1:47. You'll notice that CM9 leaves us with 829MB or memory and CM10 gives us 693MB. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIQO_kRFLwQ&feature=related
no more care about the ram.use the GN fast and comfortable is the best.
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Do your own build with tweaked settings to have "more ram". We could even set it to say you have 900 exobytes of ram if that'll make you feel better? To be honest you shouldn't even be concerned with it. Is it causing problems? No. Android has its ram situation taken care of just let it be and go on with your day.
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hey guys.
today I installed resurrection remix v3.0.5 on my friends s2. in the aroma installer I selected to install the stock CM10 kernel.
then in about phone, hardware info there was listed 825MB RAM!!!!!
and we also have 1GB ram, and here with us we have only 678MB RAM available...
so both phones have 1GB ram, and yes I know a part is OS reserved, but why needs the GN OS more ram than the S2 OS?
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Because your friends s2 screen is only 800x480, so the gpu only needs a small amount of ram dedicated to it. The gnex has 720p display and requires much more ram to be blocked off to run the display and gpu.
Can't believe not a single response in this thread understood the question!
RogerPodacter said:
Can't believe not a single response in this thread understood the question!
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Whatever helps you sleep at night.
It was well understood but it has just been asked 800,000 times on every device and could easily be discovered with a search.
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I had the SGS2 as well and had about 835mb free and was surprised that that the GNEX only had 695mb available. I don't really believe that in order to support 720p, the GNex needed another extra 140mb reserved. Probably reserved for something else.
On the downside, the GNEX does not multitask as good as the SGS2 because it lost the extra available ram.
Every 3rd app in the background seems to get killed whereas on the SGS2 even the 5th app resumes fine from previous state.
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Depending on the version it may have more reserved for lte baseband. Things memory are reserved for are baseband, GPU, camera, multimedia decoder, etc. Probly got 128mb or so for GPU, then the other 200mb go to baseband, multimedia decoder, camera, and whatever else.
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ECOTOX said:
Depending on the version it may have more reserved for lte baseband. Things memory are reserved for are baseband, GPU, camera, multimedia decoder, etc. Probly got 128mb or so for GPU, then the other 200mb go to baseband, multimedia decoder, camera, and whatever else.
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It was a gsm version.. but i get it now. Jellybean takes more ram. On cm9 it was also 825MB. Now it is 68x MB..
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thegtfusion said:
It was a gsm version.. but i get it now. Jellybean takes more ram. On cm9 it was also 825MB. Now it is 68x MB..
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No they probably just haven't tweaked kernel memory settings yet since its still in early development. Cm10 is just started development and cm9 is in release state and cm10 does not have all changes merged
Edit: Also it may never have same amount as the s2 as Samsung configuration for memory is gonna be diff because of the diff chip. The omap soc may need more memory dedicated to it for one reason or another.
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Ram management ok this phone is alot better then it ever was with my gs2
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here is accounting for some of the "missing ram" your referring to
#define OMAP_TUNA_ION_HEAP_SECURE_INPUT_SIZE (SZ_1M * 90) not sure what this is
#define OMAP_TUNA_ION_HEAP_TILER_SIZE (SZ_128M - SZ_32M) this is GPU and its reserves 128mb
#define OMAP_TUNA_ION_HEAP_NONSECURE_TILER_SIZE SZ_32M
#define OMAP_TUNA_ION_HEAP_LARGE_SURFACES_SIZE SZ_32M
#define PHYS_ADDR_SMC_SIZE (SZ_1M * 3) buffers for I/O?
#define PHYS_ADDR_SMC_MEM (0x80000000 + SZ_1G - PHYS_ADDR_SMC_SIZE)
#define PHYS_ADDR_DUCATI_SIZE (SZ_1M * 105) no idea what ducati is? baseband?
#define PHYS_ADDR_DUCATI_MEM (PHYS_ADDR_SMC_MEM - PHYS_ADDR_DUCATI_SIZE -\
OMAP_TUNA_ION_HEAP_SECURE_INPUT_SIZE)
total reserved = ~300mb
and here is S2
CONFIG_VIDEO_SAMSUNG_MEMSIZE_FIMC0=62464
CONFIG_VIDEO_SAMSUNG_MEMSIZE_FIMC1=15360
CONFIG_VIDEO_SAMSUNG_MEMSIZE_FIMC2=0
CONFIG_VIDEO_SAMSUNG_MEMSIZE_FIMC3=0
CONFIG_VIDEO_SAMSUNG_MEMSIZE_MFC_SECURE=50176
CONFIG_VIDEO_SAMSUNG_MEMSIZE_MFC_NORMAL=4096
CONFIG_VIDEO_EXYNOS_MEMSIZE_FIMC_IS=12080
CONFIG_VIDEO_SAMSUNG_MEMSIZE_FLITE0=10240
CONFIG_VIDEO_SAMSUNG_MEMSIZE_FLITE1=10240
CONFIG_ION_EXYNOS_CONTIGHEAP_SIZE=71680
total reserved = ~200mb
simply put samsung reserves less ram for system in the S2
The S2 uses less GPU memory for sure (almost 1/2 of the GNex's) and overall less is allocated to the system
also i will say it may depend on the kernel your running because My GNex registers 694mb ram with Franco kernel just fyi
if you want less things to be killed off then set your ram settings to be less aggressive so it will keep processes for longer periods of time
It's my understanding that this phone comes with 1gb of ram... Why is it that at any given time only about 350mb of that is free to use, and only 768mb is available total? I realize the OS needs ram to run, but I can't imagine that it needs ~600mb.
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bump.
I want to know as well, the lowest I get it is 326mb with easy task killer,
I assume 768mb available is just what they give us, it's always less than advertised.. but I dont understand how on my last phone there would be 100mb free but itd be running like.. ****
http://m.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Check this out.
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drw00tn3ss said:
It's my understanding that this phone comes with 1gb of ram... Why is it that at any given time only about 350mb of that is free to use, and only 768mb is available total? I realize the OS needs ram to run, but I can't imagine that it needs ~600mb.
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I believe a certain portion of your RAM is reserved for system devices like Radio and isn't seen by the Android OS.
h.nocturna said:
I believe a certain portion of your RAM is reserved for system devices like Radio and isn't seen by the Android OS.
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I noticed this to, but if you ever had an older Gingerbread device, even running CM7 they came with 256-384mb of Ram. By the time the phone was booted and all the front end services and apps were loaded, you had roughly 90mb of free ram to play with. I heard ICS and JB would at least double that, which is in par for the 768 +/- Ram usable. With a custom ROM, and removed bloat, I have close to 500mb free at boot time, so still a lot of front end apps are being loaded and using that Ram.
I think this is why a lot of older devices, even with 512 ram had a hard time getting an ICS update. Processor wasn't really the hardware in question, but moreso the Ram.
I hope this makes a little sense since I'm still half a sleep
Remember that android loves to fill up your ram with your apps for quicker launching. Android actually runs worse when you have free ram. Go into developer options and limit background processes to 0 and see for yourself lol
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Who can have the most anemic RAM reading?
Any ROM counts! Post a screen shot and good luck.
PLACES:
1- wardoc22 = 341MB
2- MRhodes23 = 423MB
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Lol... WTH people. Nothing!
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Only 521mb for me and that's after closing all ram processes. Good job!
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touchwiz only or does aosp count?
ziggy46 said:
touchwiz only or does aosp count?
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Haha, I was thinking the same thing, maybe make the OP a little more clear, and make it more fun with contest by posting the top scores and such...
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Does cm10 based roms count? xD
wardoc22 said:
Does cm10 based roms count? xD
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Lol... Holy smokes "341"! beautiful.
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485 JB rom
Stumbled across this thread and took a look... I was shocked!
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408
Mine running stock t-mo firmware. rooted. bolt-ware removed. 329 MB
abrarabbu said:
Mine running stock t-mo firmware. rooted. bolt-ware removed. 329 MB
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Pffftt...that's nothing to brag about...
My galaxy player had only 342MB available for use.
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abrarabbu said:
Mine running stock t-mo firmware. rooted. bolt-ware removed. 329 MB
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How many processes are you running? I froze all my bloat that I don't use plus system tuner and I only get 403mb.
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Drathstalker v2 faux kernel
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Hey guys any tips for lowering ram mine is almost all used
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Guys I don't think you guys should be worrying about ram usage. Unless your phone is noticeably slow because of low ram usage, you won't gain any benefits from lowering your ram usage.
wardoc22 said:
Guys I don't think you guys should be worrying about ram usage. Unless your phone is noticeably slow because of low ram usage, you won't gain any benefits from lowering your ram usage.
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Really I thought it saved a lot of battery!?
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egren58 said:
Really I thought it saved a lot of battery!?
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Unless the process that is taking up the ram is actively running in the background, then yes.
Otherwise, inactive ram takes up the same amount of power as active ram.
Clearing your memory isn't a very good idea. Unless the program that clears your memory is specific on what type of process it ends, the system would just have to load up that process you just ended which also results in higher CPU usage, and a slower system.
If you are worried about your battery life, check to see what process is actively running in your background and end any that you don't need as these are just taking up your CPU time.
Correct me if I'm wrong haha.
wardoc22 said:
Unless the process that is taking up the ram is actively running in the background, then yes.
Otherwise, inactive ram takes up the same amount of power as active ram.
Clearing your memory isn't a very good idea. Unless the program that clears your memory is specific on what type of process it ends, the system would just have to load up that process you just ended which also results in higher CPU usage, and a slower system.
Correct me if I'm wrong haha.
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You aren't. Watch what you ram does after you clear it out, it builds back up which is causing the CPUs to work, when before (if they were inactive) would just sit their doing no harm. It causes the CPUs to work to bring things back to light instead of just recovering what was covered (so to say) there about 100 threads on this for each phone and even more through out the world of RAM management.
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I'm just curious, does anyone else have unusually high RAM usage? I'm rooted and on SkyDragon, using SkyDragon kernel. My RAM is always between 1.9Gb and 2.3Gb. I have no idea why though because when I look through the running apps, there's not much there, not enough to make it that high anyway.
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H4rryTipp3r said:
I'm just curious, does anyone else have unusually high RAM usage? I'm rooted and on SkyDragon, using SkyDragon kernel. My RAM is always between 1.9Gb and 2.3Gb. I have no idea why though because when I look through the running apps, there's not much there, not enough to make it that high anyway.
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This would probably be a good question in the skydragon thread. I use Android Tuner Pro to monitor and running stock / rooted i am averaging 953mb.
H4rryTipp3r said:
I'm just curious, does anyone else have unusually high RAM usage? I'm rooted and on SkyDragon, using SkyDragon kernel. My RAM is always between 1.9Gb and 2.3Gb. I have no idea why though because when I look through the running apps, there's not much there, not enough to make it that high anyway.
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When they say you have 3gb of ram you don't. Kit Kat uses most of it
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BACARDILIMON said:
When they say you have 3gb of ram you don't. Kit Kat uses most of it
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Oh, I know that. But it still seems unusually high.
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1.5-2.0 used here. 1.9-2.0 is before closing all recent apps, 1.5 after.
High RAM usage is GOOD!!! Unused ram is WASTED ram.
Please post questions in the Q&A thread
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I'm rooted with SkyDragon kernel and upon a reboot, RAM is 1.5GB free, but as the day wears on, it drops to between 400-600MB free, usually around 500MB free and closes other apps as needed to maintain that 500MB free.
It was the same before I rooted or flashed the new kernel, just seems the way that Android is running the RAM on its phones nowadays.