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Hello everyone, I'm new to the forums but I've been looking into custom ROMs for some time already.
I'd like to tell you that I'm extremely dumb when it comes to things like Kernel, even though I understand a bit of these, I have lots of questions, keeping with that example, if I flash a CM9 Kernel, when I restore an old backup (where I used the Stock phone, for instance), what happens to that Kernel? Is it erased and the Kernel is back to my Stock?
But well, let's get the thread specifically where I want, the custom ROMs.
As previously said, I'm stupidly new to these things, but I decided to gamble on my luck and flash a CM9 Quarx nightly some days ago (can't remember from where I got that one, sorry), but I experienced some problems, like a small lag (yeah, I didn't really like the speed, compared to my stock) and an awful battery problem, where two battery fixes didn't work, and, then, with my heart desolated like a dragon's breath on corn fields, I restored the stock backup I made before doing that.
Ah yeah, I forgot to mention that my Defy+ came with a 2.3.4 version of the OS, just to let you guys know.
So, after that, seeking for more candy to my eyes (Jesus, I loved the settings and stuff from that ROM!), I sailed my boat to the famous WhiteRabbit 1.6, which I must admit, I LOVED it. But as I said, LOV"ED", until I started to face a giant tide... My phone was constantly freezing for long periods (something between 4 and 6 minutes, usually), something of which made my phone quite unusuable and unstable. With tears in my eyes, listening to Beethoven's 1st move of Moonlight Sonata (on the PC...), I decided to restore that old - 2-day old actually - backup to Stock again.
Now I just noticed that I don't like Stock anymore, I can't stand the limitations in comparison to the other two ROMs I used, and I want more! I want some stable ROM, and with "stable" I really mean something stable: a ROM that won't freeze, that has the basic stuff working, a good-looking UI, with fast and smooth scrolling, with a fix for the battery error (if there is the error on the ROM... which I'm quite sure will have), and that gives me more than the Stock would.
I've been looking at that MIUI Pikachu Edition and I really want to try it out, so, should I go on with it? Or do you guys recommend me something else? Another thing that I forgot to say is that I don't really feel like downgrading my Kernel nor putting my phone into a knight's blade way.
Yup, my device is Rooted and has a Boot Manager that I got on some brazillian forums, everything works as I guess they should do.
Sorry for the wall of text and before anything, thanks in advance!
Hey, mate
MIUI Pikachu Edition was the ROM I used absolutely the longest, almost two months without switching to anything else. I must admit that was the time I was constantly satisfied with my phone, but then CM9 became stable and I switched to it and then I simply couldn't go back to any Gingerbread ROM as the new features (mostly the looks ) of ICS were just too good Soon CM10 showed up and I've been with it since the first nightly.
So, yes, I think you should try Pikachu, but for it you need to flash "bl6 Froyo", because it's built for Froyo kernel only. (You cannot flash those flashable kernel zips! They are meant for the standard DEFY only. They are signed as bl5 and if you were to flash one of those, you would end up with a bootloader error, so you would have to flash the 2.3.4 sbf to get your phone back up and running...)
Other than that, CM10 is pretty much the way to go, if you ask me. Yes, it might take some time to load an app or another, but it's the most advanced ROM for the DEFY(+) so far and Jelly Bean really is the best Android version up to date. Quarx's latest nightly is the best version at the moment - the one from two days ago (September 12th). (Paranoid Android and AOKP are both based on Quarx's work, at least our (DEFY) versions)
The third choice for me would be MIUI 4.1, the one based on Jelly Bean. MIUI v4 was a nice step forward when it comes to looks, but it was two steps back when it comes to performance. v4.1 is a much better performer, but work on it has just started, so it'll take a couple of versions to polish it a bit. If you try and like Pikachu I guess you should follow Wajk's WIUI Jelly Bean progress and switch to it when you find it good enough for you
P.S. If it happens that you like Gingerbread more than Jelly Bean for whatever reason and don't like MIUI, FuZZ's CM7 KANG's were always the best for me :good:
I'd say that depends on how you want to handle your phone. If you want to just install a custom ROM once and then stick with it I can recommend CM 7.2, I had that for like half a year and everything worked nicely. It also offers lots of extra features and customization.
If you want the newest Android version I can second the above notion, try CM10 by Quarx. its a great ROM, and even though it is still work in Progress everything you need is working. This might mean that you want to update your ROM every once in a while to get the newest build and features, but this can be done easily through an app from within CM10.
As you have a Defy+ you wont need to flash any Kernel for the above, just pick the correct (Defy+) Version.
use CM10 its stable & works fine on defy+
Because of the controversy and arguments they inevitably generate, "best ROM" threads are prohibited on XDA. Thread closed.
I think I'm getting all this stuff straight, but sometimes it seems like the more I read the more confused I get.
I know I could just try it out and see, but before I spend 2 hours getting dirty looks from my gf because I have my face buried in the phone, I would like to know I'm on the right track.
ROMs found in the "Original Android Developement" forum:
CM9/10 - these are experimental nightly builds, probably have bugs and probably not the best choice for a daily ROM
ROMs that say they are based on CM9/10/AOKP/MIUI/AOSP - these are more stable ROMs with parts cherry-picked from CM9/10/AOKP sources and are more likely to be suitable for daily use
I can use themes that say "a custom ROM like CyanogenMOD needed" (quote taken from the description of "Arctic Green" on the play store, I think this ROM will be refreshing, like a cool breeze on my balls) and they will have a theme chooser in settings
I need to flash GApps (If I want them)
I can still run another launcher, like Go or APEX
EDIT ADDITION: I still use stock radio/modem/firmware/AIO zips
ROMs found in the "Android Developement" forum:
With TW or without, Odexed or Deodexed these are basically modified stock (samsung based?) ROMs with no copyright issues which is why there is no need for a seperate GApps zip
I can (usually) only use themes and mods specifically made for the ROM I'm using (I understand that sometimes there are exceptions, lika a blazer theme might work on FreeGS3 and vice-cersa)
I can't use themes or mods that say "a custom ROM like CyanogenMOD needed"
Do I understand the differences? Any additions/clarifications are definately appreciated.
jmdatcs said:
I think I'm getting all this stuff straight, but sometimes it seems like the more I read the more confused I get.
I know I could just try it out and see, but before I spend 2 hours getting dirty looks from my gf because I have my face buried in the phone, I would like to know I'm on the right track.
ROMs found in the "Original Android Developement" forum:
CM9/10 - these are experimental nightly builds, probably have bugs and probably not the best choice for a daily ROM
ROMs that say they are based on CM9/10/AOKP/MIUI/AOSP - these are more stable ROMs with parts cherry-picked from CM9/10/AOKP sources and are more likely to be suitable for daily use
I can use themes that say "a custom ROM like CyanogenMOD needed" (quote taken from the description of "Arctic Green" on the play store, I think this ROM will be refreshing, like a cool breeze on my balls) and they will have a theme chooser in settings
I need to flash GApps (If I want them)
I can still run another launcher, like Go or APEX
EDIT ADDITION: I still use stock radio/modem/firmware/AIO zips
ROMs found in the "Android Developement" forum:
With TW or without, Odexed or Deodexed these are basically modified stock (samsung based?) ROMs with no copyright issues which is why there is no need for a seperate GApps zip
I can (usually) only use themes and mods specifically made for the ROM I'm using (I understand that sometimes there are exceptions, lika a blazer theme might work on FreeGS3 and vice-cersa)
I can't use themes or mods that say "a custom ROM like CyanogenMOD needed"
Do I understand the differences? Any additions/clarifications are definately appreciated.
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CM9 and 10 are currently in nightly stage, but that's not permanent. There will be a final, stable version of CM10 when all the bugs are squashed. As for whether they'll be good for your daily ROM, it depends on your needs. Most things in CM10 work fine as it is, but some things may be broken. Whether the broken stuff actually affects you depends on what you need your phone to do.
ROMs based on CM10 are usually not any less buggy. In fact, they will include any CM10 bugs plus whatever creeps in via the additional code, so they will most likely be more buggy than CM10.
Yes, you should be able to use the Play Store themes in Theme Chooser. Yes, you need to flash Gapps. Yes, you can use whichever launcher you like. Yes, you use the stock radio (not sure what you mean by all-in-one zips).
The ROMs in the normal development section are based on the stock OEM ROM or they are ports from other phones/ROMs. They usually don't require Gapps, not because of copyright issues, but because they are based on the stock ROM. The themes may be compatible across Touchwiz ROMs based on the same firmware, but check the theme's thread first. CM and other AOSP themes/mods are NOT compatible with Touchwiz ROMs.
I hope this clears up some things.
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I hope this clears up some things.
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It does, thank you.
I will be changing the OP to reflect your response and any additional info posted here later tonight so, hopefully, this will be a useful thread for other noobs.
--- I did search but due to ever changing builds and time required to test roms for bugs I need up to date info ---
Hi, I got my Xperia S few days ago and I was planning to use Galaxy S+ as a main phone until a decent 4.2.2 rom will come out but now S+ goes to someone else in a family and I'll be left with Xperia S only.
I tried few 4.2.2 roms in a free time but now I need to get my phone up and running for daily use (which requires all or most functionality). As I have not enough time to try and test all of them I kindly ask you to recommend most stable and functional rom. If it based on stock or aosp/cm 4.1.2 I don't care but if I could choose from many I would prefer clean/vanilla/non-themed rom. I don't care about 'extreme' 'ultra' 'blazing fast' too if it comes in exchange for wifi router or bugfree camera. Or should I go back to original .200/.211 firmware?
Please advise as I can't afford time for flashing roms until I find a good one.
Thank you for understanding my situation.
try this
i dont quite know what your looking for but i suggest you look at this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1950706
I suggest cyanogen mod rom or Aokp for no bugs, if not that FLASH a stock rom and wait for the next update for the XS that "Tackles all the bugs"
I'd say go for stock based ROM's which have small app, walkman, BE and where everything works... This is my favourite one
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266993
If you really want vanilla android, go for PAC ROM. It combines features from Paranoid Android, CM and AOKP, plus most of it works, but it doesn't have a great battery life...
I do know about this rom list and I would test them all but as I said I have no time for that and I need -fully- working and solid rom without force closes, obvious bugs etc. as soon as possible for everyday work.
Someone recommended eXistenZ rom before and I will try that for next couple of days and if that will be a disappointment I will roll back to stock .200 until further development results.
I tried PAC 4.2.2 and it's really messed up/not ready for daily use. I have a bad feeling about roms that use various sources stitched up together. On previous phones I only liked pure AOSP or CM as they were most solid.
Please add more opinions or tell me that something I'm looking for does not exist yet I had been waiting for fully working roms for a long time before. Let's hope it's a different story with this device
stock will always be the most stable since it has all official drivers
now, if you wanna ask about which custom rom is better, you'll always receive a biased opinion due to user preferences..just go ahead and flash one so you'll get a feel for them
my search for good custom rom comes from experience with Samsung Galaxy S+ where stock roms are garbage, bloated, ugly and bugged even more than stock .200 for Xperia S but after some waiting smart devs came up with 99% perfect 4.0.4 and 4.2.2 based on AOSP and CM - without official support from those projects.
I was hoping that development for Xperia S will be more advanced since it's more mainstream phone rather than 'let's give original Samsung S some experimental hardware upgrades and leave it behind because we have more popular phones to worry about'. I'm sure it's just a matter of time (and just another driver fix from Sony) when our devs will release perfect working rom.
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I do know about this rom list and I would test them all but as I said I have no time for that and I need -fully- working and solid rom without force closes, obvious bugs etc. as soon as possible for everyday work.
Someone recommended eXistenZ rom before and I will try that for next couple of days and if that will be a disappointment I will roll back to stock .200 until further development results.
I tried PAC 4.2.2 and it's really messed up/not ready for daily use. I have a bad feeling about roms that use various sources stitched up together. On previous phones I only liked pure AOSP or CM as they were most solid.
Please add more opinions or tell me that something I'm looking for does not exist yet I had been waiting for fully working roms for a long time before. Let's hope it's a different story with this device
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You could try pac 19.3 a 4.1.2 rom
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Hi all,
Personally I'm running CM on an Xperia device, so I'm already golden.. but my flatmate has a Galaxy W and is about to trade it in for a *gasp* iPhone, because her W is too slow and outdated.
I've told her that she could probably get more life out of it with a custom ROM, but I've never had a Samsung device so am not sure what the best ROM to go for would be - particularly on this older model.
Can anyone recommend what I could try installing for her? She's not an advanced user in any respect, and will just want something as fast and as stable as possible. I instinctively though of CM for her W too, but didn't know if that was necessarily the best option or what the most stable version would be.
So - what do you suggest?
Cheers! schnide
cm9 is the most stable cm rom for galaxy w
download it here
Yea, CM9 is the most stable ROM around here next to Gingerbread. The guides to flash recovery is also available for you to check out and to flash it can be done right on the device itself :thumbup:
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i'm still using gb, i too want to upgrade a new phone since there r many cheap power models nowadays.
i've tried many custom roms, tweaks n enhancement apps, too many bugs, annoyances n will take up too much resources.
always rolled back to gb afterwards due to bugs, annoyances n lag lustre.
i did compiled a few tricks from xda to make gb run fast n smooth together with holo launcher update it comparable to new.
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2737888
even iphone6 have bugs, will wait a bit longer for apple to straighten up thus still hold on to gw.
CM11 is a good option. It's obviously not as finished as CM9, but it's stable enough to be a daily driver, and KitKat's lower system requirements helps, too.
I am "new" here, so for start warm Hello to everyone In fact I registered here 4 years ago but I used to be only reader until now.
I have a LG G3 d855, and after using CM on Desire Z many years ago and after Nexus 4 I knew from the begining that I want only AOSP based ROM. So I rooted phone, installed TWRP then Lolli-based Xenon HD and now - Euphoria. The latter one seems to be very slightly slower than former one, but more stable. But one thing came to my mind and I am not sure. What is your experience with various AOSP based ROMs? Is it worth to try another one than these two mentioned here? Perhaps I should go with pure CM 12.1, which above ROMs are based on? Just which of AOSP ROMs is the most stable and fast for you? Are there any really pure AOSP 5.1.1. ROMs in "stable" version for G3? I couldn't find one... Any suggestions are welcome.
Xenon HD is AOSP based and i use it ATM. It's stable for me and i use experimental build. I also tried Slim Minux build, wich is also AOSP based but it was kinda slower for me. Euphoria OS is CM based i think. And you do have a pure AOSP rom in android dev section, just look a little harder next time. And, as always, Google is your friend.
F-AOSP suits my taste. Absolutely smooth and battery friendly (stock aosp kernel). But there aren't many features like CM for this is based on pure AOSP. Note that this rom is very stable and proximity works very well.
CM based are cool and packed with features, but I found our AOSP versions tend to be a little smoother, eve if you have to exchange some features for performance. F-AOSP is leading in performance for me, but since I take a lot of pictures... well... you can guess. :|
DeHuMaNiZeD said:
Xenon HD is AOSP based and i use it ATM. It's stable for me and i use experimental build.
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I had a small problem with double screen tap wakeup with Xenon, so I gave Euphoria a shot I thought Xenon was somewhat CM based too?
I also tried Slim Minux build, wich is also AOSP based but it was kinda slower for me. Euphoria OS is CM based i think. And you do have a pure AOSP rom in android dev section, just look a little harder next time. And, as always, Google is your friend.
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Thanks, I saw it in ROMs section, but it is in "testing" stage for now, perhaps I should start testing it too
filbertmang said:
F-AOSP suits my taste. Absolutely smooth and battery friendly (stock aosp kernel). But there aren't many features like CM for this is based on pure AOSP. Note that this rom is very stable and proximity works very well.
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F-AOSP is in "testing" stage as I could see, but it is great to hear from you that it is very stable Thanks, I'll give it a try. Usually I don't need to many gimmicks in OS, Android i its pure form is very mature and usable now.
MidnightDevil said:
CM based are cool and packed with features, but I found our AOSP versions tend to be a little smoother, eve if you have to exchange some features for performance. F-AOSP is leading in performance for me, but since I take a lot of pictures... well... you can guess. :|
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Whenever I plan to take good photos, I take my "serious" camera with me, so using somewhat limited Google Camera app is not a problem for me. And another voice for F-AOSP, thanks!
Definetly, F-AOSP deserves a handful of votes. It's vanilla AOSP, very stable and the animations don't lag like CM Roms do.
Yup I'm using the F-AOSP by kjjjnob. Stable and would definitely recommend to other users.
Any one knows when updating the custom rom, do you have to wipe everything again or just clear cache ?
What is the proper procedure to update ?
I do not want to reinstall all my apps again
_DeeK_ said:
Yup I'm using the F-AOSP by kjjjnob. Stable and would definitely recommend to other users.
Any one knows when updating the custom rom, do you have to wipe everything again or just clear cache ?
What is the proper procedure to update ?
I do not want to reinstall all my apps again
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If you REALLY do not want your apps to dissapear, try flashing a custom rom and wipe cache and dalvik cache only. If you are coming from Stock and want to migrate ti AOSP, pretty sure you need to wipe data and not just the cache. Keep in mind that clearing the cache only will cause problems like FC or overheating. I suggest you use Titanium Backup.
Hit the thanks button if I helped you.
filbertmang said:
If you REALLY do not want your apps to dissapear, try flashing a custom rom and wipe cache and dalvik cache only. If you are coming from Stock and want to migrate ti AOSP, pretty sure you need to wipe data and not just the cache. Keep in mind that clearing the cache only will cause problems like FC or overheating. I suggest you use Titanium Backup.
Hit the thanks button if I helped you.
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Thanks for the advice!
I've tried to update the custom rom and only wiping cache and dalvik cache but android errors are popping up.
Perhaps I'll try backing up my apps first before wiping everything else.
Thankfully I made a backup at recovery of my rom first.
MidnightDevil said:
Definetly, F-AOSP deserves a handful of votes. It's vanilla AOSP, very stable and the animations don't lag like CM Roms do.
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_DeeK_ said:
Yup I'm using the F-AOSP by kjjjnob. Stable and would definitely recommend to other users.
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After a first day with F-AOSP I can only confirm your experience! Very fast, reliable and stable. I just used Open Gapps instead of suggested packet. The only small glitch I've noticed were web and calendar applications not conforming to material design, but I guess it is common thing for AOSP and I easily have fixed it with appropriate apps from google play.
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sylwiuszp said:
After a first day with F-AOSP I can only confirm your experience! Very fast, reliable and stable. I just used Open Gapps instead of suggested packet. The only small glitch I've noticed were web and calendar applications not conforming to material design, but I guess it is common thing for AOSP and I easily have fixed it with appropriate apps from google play.
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I'm guessing F-AOSP brings AOSP apps, so flashing a stock google package (from opengapp) would replace the aosp components with google ones
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I'm guessing F-AOSP brings AOSP apps, so flashing a stock google package (from opengapp) would replace the aosp components with google ones
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Yes, it seems so. Both browser and calendar are part of AOSP ROM, but I've installed mini version of GAPPS, so only calendar gets replaced when you install newer version from Google Play. Chrome from Google Play was installed besides AOSP browser. This is somewhat a plus for CM based ROMs, where at least browser has more modern, material UI.