So I went through basically every ROM in the development thread, and was surprised that there was no odexed roms.
I know this phone isn't the same as the One XL, but over there we had all the stock ones odexed, and all the AOSP ones deodexed. I'm not saying all stock based roms for the S3 should be o'd, but why aren't a few o'd? Hell, not even one?
Just curious as odex provides better battery life and performance, but also makes it harder to mod.
Don't take this is me complaining or *****ing, but just curious as I searched "odex" in this section and the general, and nothing came up.
I've never had ROMs that were purposely odexed on any of my Android devices..
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Really? I didn't either to be honest, thought it was bad and such.
Until I got the One X, I thought deodexed was best. Then I flashed an odexed rom and bam! Super smooth, amazing standby times, and 6 hours+ screen on time.
Well I sure could use better battery life so I'm also interested in finding out why there aren't any o'd ROMs out there for the GS3...
Should we make a request? To the devs in general, not just one.
The performance boost is also very noticeable, usually one or two roms are.
I'm using the stock rom with only root on it since there aren't any odex roms yet. I'll give it time as this phone still in the new development stages. Some real good Roms out there. The only think I would like is the extended toggles.
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I think I may have to go back to stock too, with root of course.
I'm not seeing the better battery life I saw with stock.
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Really? I didn't either to be honest, thought it was bad and such.
Until I got the One X, I thought deodexed was best. Then I flashed an odexed rom and bam! Super smooth, amazing standby times, and 6 hours+ screen on time.
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for what it's worth, my sister and i both have the i747, hers is stock and i'm using a stock deodexed rooted ROM and our battery lives were pretty much the same over the last week when we were travelling (meaning the conditions like signal strength/type, screen time and etc were both the same)
I have never noticed better battery life with odexed roms. i have noticed smoother performance with odexed roms.
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I was going to ask the same question. The majority of other phone forums are creating ROM's that are ODEXED; much better performance.
The Dev's are also stating that they "thought" DEODEXED had been better due to optimizations, but are now finding that ODEXED are actually running much better....
I'm on Stock and rooted and have zero problems. I've tried the custom ROM's in this forum and all create some level of lag; albeit very small, it is present. Also, with the custom ROM's I can never achieve more than 16-18hrs, with Stock, I can achieve a day+.
Yeah, odex is alot smoother. I wish there was an odexed custom ROM, makes a notable difference.
Odex is not really much smoother for sammy devices... through out all my sammy phones (sgs1, sgs2 and now this) ive always heard people qant these roms but they are hardly smoother (if smoother at all) and are a lot harder to mod/theme
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With this being developer forums, I'd say if you want one bad enough, you will probably have to build one. I agree that odex ROMs can be a bit smoother but honestly the difference is negligible when considering the ease of being able to theme and flash specific mods. And as long as apks are properly de-compiled and re-compiled when being modified, then performance should be just as good on de-odexed.
Interesting. I assumed de-odexed was the way to go(since all the roms have it). I get about 36 hours but I'm a light user.
For those who haven't seen this, I was doing some research on this and posted in the General forum, really good info on both options; but, check out what one of the Elite XDA Dev's states regarding deodexed ROM's at the 1:56 mark of the video. Still really confused as to why no Dev's are creating odexed ROM's once they've completed their customizations???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30345379&postcount=1
I think its because they still want to leave the door open for user customizations, which is pretty nice, but I have a thread on how to odex your rom back up. Check my sig guys.
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I think its because they still want to leave the door open for user customizations, which is pretty nice, but I have a thread on how to odex your rom back up. Check my sig guys.
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I saw this, does this re-odex both system/apps and framework?
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howtomen said:
Odex is not really much smoother for sammy devices... through out all my sammy phones (sgs1, sgs2 and now this) ive always heard people qant these roms but they are hardly smoother (if smoother at all) and are a lot harder to mod/theme
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The key point here is theming, once done the ROM needs to be re-odexed for optimal performance as minute as it may be. I personally prefer stock ROM's, I don't care about all the fancy theming, etc. I do use a custom launcher that changes some things, but for the most part, it's a stock base.
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I think its because they still want to leave the door open for user customizations, which is pretty nice, but I have a thread on how to odex your rom back up. Check my sig guys.
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Ok, just tried this on the Triune II ROM based on UCALH1 and it doesn't appear to work, most apps FC'ing.
Yes, odexes all the system apps and framework. Try fixing permissions, that did it for me.
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I could see how some people might think this would be a stupid thread to start, but being a rom noob and this being my first android phone i thought this would be helpful for others like me. I personally work from 6am-7pm and need my phone after work and can only really flash and play around with one rom a night if that. I think a lot of these rom's are based of other roms for other phones, like cm7 (correct me if i'm wrong). If people could just talk about previous experiences such as if you used Kingdom Rewind 3d for your Dinc1, CM7 on another phone or just you're general experiences with the roms that have come out so far and what you feel are the least glitchy, has the most features, best batery life etc.
This does not belong in the development section.
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I could see how some people might think this would be a stupid thread to start, but being a rom noob and this being my first android phone i thought this would be helpful for others like me. I personally work from 6am-7pm and need my phone after work and can only really flash and play around with one rom a night if that. I think a lot of these rom's are based of other roms for other phones, like cm7 (correct me if i'm wrong). If people could just talk about previous experiences such as if you used Kingdom Rewind 3d for your Dinc1, CM7 on another phone or just you're general experiences with the roms that have come out so far and what you feel are the least glitchy, has the most features, best batery life etc.
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I ran CM7 on my Dinc. It was a stable fast ROM but it is like a blank canvas. You have to make it what you want it to be. If you like to have lots of options and don't need any of the Sense widgets I think it makes the most sense. It is almost absurdly configurable.
If you like the Sense widgets then I would wait and see if the Skyraider ROM is ported over. It seemed to be the most stable and fast of the modified Sense ROMS.
My .02 and I agree with cheifkeiff.
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I could see how some people might think this would be a stupid thread to start, but being a rom noob and this being my first android phone i thought this would be helpful for others like me. I personally work from 6am-7pm and need my phone after work and can only really flash and play around with one rom a night if that. I think a lot of these rom's are based of other roms for other phones, like cm7 (correct me if i'm wrong). If people could just talk about previous experiences such as if you used Kingdom Rewind 3d for your Dinc1, CM7 on another phone or just you're general experiences with the roms that have come out so far and what you feel are the least glitchy, has the most features, best batery life etc.
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If you need reliability, I would highly recommend one of the debloated stock ROMs. These will have the stability of stock without the bloatware.
If reliability is not exactly a requirement but you like Sense, can't really recommend anything. I, personally, don't like Sense and have not tried any Sense based ROM.
If reliability is not so much an issue, and you can do without Sense, CM7 is actually quite stable and reliable. I say use this if reliability is not an issue because it has only community support should something not work right.
MIUI is a really different experience with customization brought to a whole new level. Its like what I would imagine iOS 5 to be like, plus all the awesome associated with Android. I use setCPU to throttle the CPU when the screen is off, and with medium use throughout the day I get about 14 hours out of the battery.
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Moved to proper forum.
Just saw a thread on rootzwiki about an AOSP ROM that should be coming. Can't wait for that one.
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Miui
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I use MIUI also
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just downloaded miui i'm excited. how about radios or kernals? (i actually don't really know what they are in case anyone can point me towards posts that explain what they actually do?)
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just downloaded miui i'm excited. how about radios or kernals? (i actually don't really know what they are in case anyone can point me towards posts that explain what they actually do?)
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Just keep the standard kernel for miui. I use the 1.8 one but dont go that high
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I just got my s2x and looked at the rom section and they all seem good but cant tell which one is the best.
Looked at beastmode, bomba and juggar. Which one do you guys think is the best?
Only one way to find is try them all out for yourself. Me personally, I use juggernaut and love it. But that's just me haha. It won't hurt try em out.
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I've been trying them all for the past week. I think Bombaridier V.2.0 is the one to keep: very fast and has amazing data speeds. Still trying out the battery life.
I doesn't have Google Talk Video cooked in though.
Ive been using stock (bought the phone last thursday) and its been amazing. Especially after disabling TW and most of the tmobile bs, this phone has been flying.
And my battery life has been phenomenal. unplugged yesterday, at like 6:00am when i got up for work, and went on all day until 11pm at night and still had 15% left.
That sounds like mine! I love the battery life on this thing
Completely stock - not rooted yet - 1d15h battery life every day, and I charge at 10%. Moderate use through the day.
I switch ROMs daily, I still haven't found my daily driver. I have been most happy with Bombaridier because of the speeds. I'm back to Juggernaut now to test out the 1.6 release. Definitely invest in something like Titanium backup if you're going to be switching ROMs a lot, it'll save you a ton of headaches.
Try Hyperdroid with one of the sergions.Batterylife rocks!
Im using pongsters transparent sergion atm.
Uplugged the phone this morning at 7:00am receiving exchange email via push the whole day.
Listening to music for an hour.
Some calls,whatsapp,facebook etc and now at 00:30 at 58%
Moved arround allot too like cm7,darky rom,villain but this one seems to be stable and battery life is good.
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um that rom aint gunna work for our phones buddy.
Im rockin beastmod and lovin.
So more of the story is I think they are all solid.
Bombardier is the fastest
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I'm using Juggernaut 2.5 with ICS theme. Very nice. Haven't tried the others cuz I've been happy with Juggernaut
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Honestly all the roms we have are all good. It comes down to personal preferences.
I like how BeastMod is themed so that's what I rock.
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Glad I saw this thread. I'm new to messing around with Android, but I'm always eager to read and learn. Right now, I'm using a stock debloated ROM and just playing with themes. The stock ROM had been perfectly suitable for me and I'm not left wanting...but I do get curious about the other ROMs.
I understand that its a matter of personal preference and the only way to know which is "best"for a person is to try them out.
However, could you educate a beginner on what sort of practical differences to look for in each ROM? That is to say, if one of you experienced members were to flash a new ROM, what things do you pay particular attention to?
I've always found that it helps in the learning process to know what you're supposed to be learning, so I'd like to have an organized mind as I explore.
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Glad I saw this thread. I'm new to messing around with Android, but I'm always eager to read and learn. Right now, I'm using a stock debloated ROM and just playing with themes. The stock ROM had been perfectly suitable for me and I'm not left wanting...but I do get curious about the other ROMs.
I understand that its a matter of personal preference and the only way to know which is "best"for a person is to try them out.
However, could you educate a beginner on what sort of practical differences to look for in each ROM? That is to say, if one of you experienced members were to flash a new ROM, what things do you pay particular attention to?
I've always found that it helps in the learning process to know what you're supposed to be learning, so I'd like to have an organized mind as I explore.
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There are lots of things to look for such as..
Battery, smoothness, simplicity, mods, tweaks, themes, and I'm sure I'm missing some more.
For the most part Juggernaut has all the above along with BeastMod.
But again ALL the roms we have are GOOD. All the devs we have are amazing at what they do and my best tip for you is to try them all.
Stay at least 3 days with each one and from there you'll be able to decide which one fits you more.
I hope this helps.
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um that rom aint gunna work for our phones buddy.
Im rockin beastmod and lovin.
So more of the story is I think they are all solid.
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Samsung Galaxy 2 right? Just checked the forum and its for sgs2
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heres how it is, ive only tried beastmod and juggernaut, so far beastmod was good, but once i tried juggernaut i was sold, its snappier, specially with the new bullet kernel, its speedy!
Beast Mod consistently holds me down no bugs reboots a lot nicer on the eyes without being excessive... I'm downloading 2.5 to give it a full shot
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But I agree the best way to really know what you like is try em all and use it as you would normally some people love speed but don't care about battery and some do etc;
Like everyone says, kindof a preference thing....
In my opinion, juggernaut is the best rom atm, it has the most dev support and has the most advanced options right now.
I'm rocking the following and am quite happy:
ROM: juggernaut 2.6
Kernel: bullet 1.8
Theme: ICS theme (without installing system apps, just want blue taskbar and themes and not the somewhat crappy ICS launcher)
Launcher: LauncherPro with Custom made ICS buttons. (see my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19247803#post19247803)
That said, bombaridier is smooth and clean, beastmod is unique and has an enthusiastic following.
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Samsung Galaxy 2 right? Just checked the forum and its for sgs2
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Different processors.
This is my first android phone and i jumped in head first and rooted it the second day i had it and have since tried all versions of every rom so far. personally i think juggs has tons of potential but atm they are ironing out the bugs, good for customizing but dont post about a bug without a log of the error. bomba is stable and fast and lacks bugs, best daily driver at the moment. beast just feels like a kang of jugg. kernels to go with are all good right now. seems like jugg (or beast) works best with their accompanying rom, jugs. and bomba rocks with synergy, gonna try it with bullet today.
Ive been trying out a few roms here and there and when i first got the phone there were only a few now that the SGS2Epic4g is getting more popular i wanted to know users opinion about what they feel the best rom is me personally i prefer odex but i like themes so...there you have it
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Ive been trying out a few roms here and there and when i first got the phone there were only a few now that the SGS2Epic4g is getting more popular i wanted to know users opinion about what they feel the best rom is me personally i prefer odex but i like themes so...there you have it
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Not to sound like a prick or anything, but you have to consider that you are posting in a very opinionated forum, with a very broad question. That being said, I also believe everyone is entitled to said opinion SO....
I have to go with Calkulins Rom. I have yet to find a more stable Rom, and I check frequently. Couple that with Overstews ICS theme and you have a match made in Android heaven. Hope this helps.
Epic-ly tapped from my Galaxy S II
Maddoggin's rom is great and very stable. There are a few themes out for it, two of which are linked in the OP for the thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21060706
However, if you want an overwhelming support for themes then mijjah has you covered with his rom and the themes he ports and improves upon. It's also stable for me though others report issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20166744
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I'm using the xplod ROM and even though it's still beta and has a few bugs I use it my dd. I've used pretty much everyone ROM and enjoyed them all, but this and the unnamed ROM seem to be the best. I just wish the dev for unnamed would come back. He did the same thing on the infuse 4g.
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@Zoidpilot i agree with you about the opinionated part but thats what i think we need everyone's opinion because im pretty sure the new guys come here and wonder which should they try 1st or which is the best, like i did so let the opinions rain and i hope no devs take any offense
Blazer ROM. No doubt about it.
Have used it since v1.2, and current v3.7 has not disappointed me at all.
Caulks, 80% of roms are based on his.
I am currently on Blazer Rom, HAven't tried any others but love the ics look
Calkulin's rom is the base for so many other roms. Calkulins all the way
Seems like this is a pretty common question in the Q & A. And almost always, Calk's is at the top of the list.
If you prefer Odex and don't mind a very blue theme then you certainly want to try StrongSteve's ROM.
I 'm loving the Blazer ROM (ver. 3.7) so far. Stable snappy, great battery life and a cool ICS theme.
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Caulks, 80% of roms are based on his.
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Calkulin's rom is the base for so many other roms. Calkulins all the way
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Name other roms based off his. The only one I can think of is msturgs sensation themed rom.
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I haven't flashed every single rom out there. I was using stock + rooted only for the first few months.. and definitely nothing wrong with that if that's your thing. Just get rid of the bloatware and you should get decent battery life.
Having said that, I'm on BlazerROM 3.7 and my wife is on Calks 2.8.1 ROM. Just flashed both our phones last weekend. We're both happy with them so far and have no problems with GPS issues, hot reboots, freezes, ect. We seem to get about the same battery life too.. maybe my wife's is a little better since she's under volted a bit.
I would say nandroid and flash away until you find something you like. Its not hard to do and flashing doesn't take too long. You'll probably take longer downloading the ROM's themselves.. lol. But for themes, Blend ROM seems to have a lot of support
Can't really say better/best as I've only run 1 rom since about 3 days after I got this phone... calk's. I've since added steadyhawkin's gunslinger kernel, and overstew's ics theme, and have nothing but good to say about any of it. Fast, stable, great battery life, and I love that he keeps the rom pretty close to stock so you can dress it up the way _you_ want (which is helped by the fact it seems most themes/mods support it) or stay with a pretty stock/tw look if that's your thing.
Again, nothing bad to say about other roms, or even to say that this rom is better -- it's just the 1st I tried, and it's done everything I want so I've never felt the need to even try anything else (as of yet -- looking like that *might* be getting close to changing but that's a WHOLE other story ).
I'm using ICS Passion on my vibrant, nice stock 4.0 feel.
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I'm going to have to go with Blazer 3.7. I found myself on Calkulin's for a while but I got better battery life with Blazer 3.7. I really like Phamtom's theme work with 3.7. Everything looks nice, runs smooth, and I like the toggle set up more than any other ROM or mod. I haven't quit trying different ROMs, mods, and themes, I just always seem to end up on Stock Blazer 3.7 because it's so "perfect" in my opinion.
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Best Battery award I would have to give it to Calkulin's 2.8.1 - The Con is that I was having problems with deep freezes every couple days where I would have to reboot my phone and I would notice a little lag when opening the app drawer for the first few seconds. The freezing was most likely due to the undervolt and Haven't tried the other optional undervolts he has posted yet to remedy the Issue.
Best visuals I would have to give it to StrongSteve's ROM. That blue is straight eye candy!!! The con is that it was giving me worse battery life than I was use to on Calkulin's, but nothing really to complain about honestly. And I like how the keyboards was the swype with the dragon go option by default.
Best Rom so far award goes to Phantom Blazer in my book. This Rom ran the smoothest out of the three for me and battery life is very closely compared to Calkulin's 2.8.1 so far and looks very nice. My only request is that his swype keyboard had dragon go.
I'm a fan of UnNamed Rom.
Stable, fast, and long battery life.
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Name other roms based off his. The only one I can think of is msturgs sensation themed rom.
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agreed i have noticed that too even think some used his and just themed it and claimed it to be their's ...has any tried the asop roms
I bought my GSII used, already rooted, with a custom ROM already loaded on it.
I have to ask - since I never used one with a 100% pure stock ROM - is it really THAT MUCH faster with a custom?
I am currently running Juggs 5.0 - but if I went back to 100% stock would I feel that much difference?
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I bought my GSII used, already rooted, with a custom ROM already loaded on it.
I have to ask - since I never used one with a 100% pure stock ROM - is it really THAT MUCH faster with a custom?
I am currently running Juggs 5.0 - but if I went back to 100% stock would I feel that much difference?
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It's not really about speed. But with a custom ROM you definitely have more customizations possible. You can change the look of the interface, the notification toggles, colors etc. I have the i9100, which is another variant of the SGS2 and I've had ICS for a couple of months now, but it's not getting officially released until this month some time. So, it's not really about speed but rather about the freedom to do other things with it. Some people might cite benchmark tests, and scream that I'm wrong, but the hardware is what makes your phone fast...the software's not at all going to choke that out (whether stock or custom). As far as speed goes, you're probably not going to notice the difference.
Also, though you've got root access which enables you to install apps and do things you just can't do otherwise.
All that said, there are certain advantages to stock. It's often times more stable than something custom. There are ups and downs. If you feel the need to experiment, you can always flash back. Just read a lot before you get your feet wet (it is very possible to brick your device if you muck it up) and you'll be fine.
I don't think so. I'm going to get flamed plenty I'm sure but I don't see much improvement over how my phone performed out of the box. I think the battery life may even have been better before I started flashing stuff.
I should have stated in my original post - I am definitely not a n00b to Android or to flashing/rooting. I can understand the customization aspect, but honestly other than flashing, I have never had a real use for Root access.
I can flash something with a new custom interface or colors and always end up coming back to something that has the stock look about it... In this case, I've tried almost every available custom ROM and keep coming back to Juggs .
I ask about speed though because all the ROM cooks seem to try to use that as a selling point... "FAST!" "Butter smooth!" blah blah blah ...
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I should have stated in my original post - I am definitely not a n00b to Android or to flashing/rooting. I can understand the customization aspect, but honestly other than flashing, I have never had a real use for Root access.
I can flash something with a new custom interface or colors and always end up coming back to something that has the stock look about it... In this case, I've tried almost every available custom ROM and keep coming back to Juggs .
I ask about speed though because all the ROM cooks seem to try to use that as a selling point... "FAST!" "Butter smooth!" blah blah blah ...
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After I posted, I looked at your tag, and assumed as much with 700+ posts, you've been around the XDA block.
Really? No need for root?! I'm a flashing junkie (well, okay, that's exaggerated. it comes and goes in spurts) TitaniumBackup is my friend. Also CWM is a gift.
Agreed, stock ICS is love. But I do also like certain tweaks, i.e. the %-battery indicator (and while we're on the subject, I've got a little Android logo with a % indicator for my battery...I wonder why Android devs don't include little things like that).
Yeah, your best bet is to try some out. But IMHO devs talk too much in that regard. I'll probably get flamed if any read this, but devs are kinda like used car salesmen in that regard. They've got a product that they want you to use, so they try to sell it. Can't say I blame 'em, really. But again IMO, most of it's hype.
I didn't think you were new to Android since your account is almost 4 years old so I'd assumed you were familiar with all the "benefits" of rooting. The phone is so nice out of the box I don't think any of the roms are any smoother or better on battery. I think Warfare is probably the best on battery and for me CM7 was easliy the worst. I didn't notice a change in data speed, 2d smoothness, 3d smoothness, battery cover smoothness... Nothing. The device is so nice out of the box and I don't use it for anything other than a phone, text messaging, web browsing, e-mail, Skype, the occasional slicing of fruit or a word or two with friends so I can't comment on all the added functionality all the "super-duper heavy users" of this device probably use on custom roms. The only reason mine is rooted is for an ad host file and the occasional tether.
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After I posted, I looked at your tag, and assumed as much with 700+ posts, you've been around the XDA block.
Really? No need for root?! I'm a flashing junkie (well, okay, that's exaggerated. it comes and goes in spurts) TitaniumBackup is my friend. Also CWM is a gift.
Agreed, stock ICS is love. But I do also like certain tweaks, i.e. the %-battery indicator (and while we're on the subject, I've got a little Android logo with a % indicator for my battery...I wonder why Android devs don't include little things like that).
Yeah, your best bet is to try some out. But IMHO devs talk too much in that regard. I'll probably get flamed if any read this, but devs are kinda like used car salesmen in that regard. They've got a product that they want you to use, so they try to sell it. Can't say I blame 'em, really. But again IMO, most of it's hype.
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When I had a Fascinate... I was a huge fan of overclocking and undervolting. The same when I had a Thunderbolt. It made everything smoother and the Thunderbolt especially needed help in the battery area. This device just works. No need for anything other than what it came with for me. Obviously that didn't stop me from flashing the development section... But hey, I have a problem.
Warfare is very good.but,no advantage so far.
For me,im back on stock.just works better for me (doesnt mean I wont have a flash attack).
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JWhipple said:
I bought my GSII used, already rooted, with a custom ROM already loaded on it.
I have to ask - since I never used one with a 100% pure stock ROM - is it really THAT MUCH faster with a custom?
I am currently running Juggs 5.0 - but if I went back to 100% stock would I feel that much difference?
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the thing with our device is that it came sooo sick straight out of the box that you don't really need to improve it that much. However, custom ROMs/kernels generally make the ROMs smoother, but not many people notice the difference.
I actually notice that because of the kernels implemented with certain ROMs, our phone is able to RUN just as smooth at a lower clockspeed which saves us battery. Other than that, I don't think Custom ROMs are actually "SMOOTHER" or faster than the stock ROM because Samsung really did well on this phone.
sunlaw2 said:
Warfare is very good.but,no advantage so far.
For me,im back on stock.just works better for me (doesnt mean I wont have a flash attack).
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I'm going to look for a ROM that is close to stock as possible but rooted... try it for a week and if I can.live with the speed I'm going back to stock via Odin.
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JWhipple said:
I'm going to look for a ROM that is close to stock as possible but rooted... try it for a week and if I can.live with the speed I'm going back to stock via Odin.
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The main difference is the bloatware which really does make an impact on speed, memory consumption and overall smoothness.
Some rom cook faster, you should choose the rom cook by team have many vote on forum.
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Don't want to root. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DTgvLPOYLg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I was just going to start a similar thread actually. I have watched videos of the different ROM's that we can install on the T989 variant to get an idea of what's available and what I like. Currently SlickMOD ROM looks the smoothest with the best battery life.
Having said that, in the video that I saw, when quadrant was run on SlickMOD, while it was overclocked, the score was approx 2690. When I ran Quadrant on my Stock ROM (rooted Stock ROM without being overclocked either) I got a score of 3199. Also, after 16 hours of use I still usually have more than 50% battery life.
Other than the options for different themes and customizations and ROM control, are custom ROMs going to provide better performance and battery life than what I am already receiving with my Stock? I mean I really want to give the other ROM's a try, but the reason would be for speed and battery life and right now both are pretty good for me on Stock. Thoughts/Suggestions?
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Don't want to root. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DTgvLPOYLg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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What the hell does this have to do with the discussion?
Chochiwpg said:
I was just going to start a similar thread actually. I have watched videos of the different ROM's that we can install on the T989 variant to get an idea of what's available and what I like. Currently SlickMOD ROM looks the smoothest with the best battery life.
Having said that, in the video that I saw, when quadrant was run on SlickMOD, while it was overclocked, the score was approx 2690. When I ran Quadrant on my Stock ROM (rooted Stock ROM without being overclocked either) I got a score of 3199. Also, after 16 hours of use I still usually have more than 50% battery life.
Other than the options for different themes and customizations and ROM control, are custom ROMs going to provide better performance and battery life than what I am already receiving with my Stock? I mean I really want to give the other ROM's a try, but the reason would be for speed and battery life and right now both are pretty good for me on Stock. Thoughts/Suggestions?
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Generally speaking (I don't own this device) stock ROMs will normally get better battery life. Custom ROMs can approach stock, in this regard, but I'd be way beyond surprised if a cook made a ROM that had better battery life than Google's team of Android developers.
Problem with SlickMOD is that the dev's T989 broke and he isn't getting another one - so - development has HALTED.
sean is here. said:
Generally speaking (I don't own this device) stock ROMs will normally get better battery life. Custom ROMs can approach stock, in this regard, but I'd be way beyond surprised if a cook made a ROM that had better battery life than Google's team of Android developers.
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Makes sense, just for fun I ran Quadrant again on my Stock Rooted ROM and got a 3358. Maybe I should reconsider switching to a different ROM for now. Stock is very stable with no real issues/concerns. thanks for the response.
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Makes sense, just for fun I ran Quadrant again on my Stock Rooted ROM and got a 3358. Maybe I should reconsider switching to a different ROM for now. Stock is very stable with no real issues/concerns. thanks for the response.
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Which stock-rooted ROM are you running? Mr. X's ?
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Which stock-rooted ROM are you running? Mr. X's ?
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It's the Stock ROM that came with my phone. I rooted the phone but haven't flashed any custom kernel's or custom ROMs on my phone. I also use Zeam Launcher as opposed to the TW Launcher by default. I have turned off animations, limited my homescreens to 3. I don't use too many widgets and I use an all black background. Also running Juice Defender to help with battery but I don't think that affects performance/speed.
Model Number = SGH-T898D
Android Version = 2.3.5
Baseband Version = T989DTLKJ3
Kernel Version = 2.6.35.11
Build Number = GINGERBREAD.TLKJ3
I don't know if that helps or answers your question. Hope that helps.
I'm willing to bet that the performance gains that are being seen on the Stock ROMs is due to the fact that they are ODEXed. By DeODEXing the ROMs can be customized to the cook's heart's content, but there is a mild performance hit taken.
Thoughts?
I have been using FreeGS3 ROM from Clark44 for the last few weeks and I love it. I started at .0.6 and been updating ever since. Clark44 is constantly working on this ROM so you know it will always be up to date and he is always open resolving any issues with the ROM. The first ROM I flashed was Blazer ROM from PhantomHacker and that was also a great ROM. Ive only tried v1.5. I was wondering your guys opinion on the two ROMs and how they differ if they do. battery life. speed and such.
I have both roms waiting for me when i get home from work. I will definitely give them both a test drive and will report back. I just got this phone so I'm definitely loving touchwiz so I'm glad both those roms have touchwiz with some tweaks.
Are you kidding me?
Freegs3 ...
No slight to any other dev, ...but right now, Freegs3 is class of the field.
FreeGS3 is clearly the best ROM out right now. No other Dev is doing what Clark44 is doing. Updates regularly. Installing stuff on ROM no one else has. FreeGS3 is in it's own class.
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Are you kidding me?
Freegs3 ...
No slight to any other dev, ...but right now, Freegs3 is class of the field.
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FreeGS3 is clearly the best ROM out right now. No other Dev is doing what Clark44 is doing. Updates regularly. Installing stuff on ROM no one else has. FreeGS3 is in it's own class.
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ditto
Blazer ROM, Best battery life of any ROM and very smooth and stable.
Both are excellent roms! I personally nandroid restore back and forth between the two. It's like Christmas in August
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Team sonic is the way to go...I feel the guy from blazer rom,,would make better use of his time working with clark44...after all there both tring to get preformance and battery life...2 heads are better than one
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tried every rom...lets just say.."seeggaaaa"
FreeGS3 Ftw imo
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I've always been a fan of Phantom and Blazer Rom since the Epic Touch days.....although I admit he just hits my personal sweet spot with the features he includes....I like Clark's rom too....I kind of don't like the Aroma feature though. It's cool, but for an extra 200MB when I have to download my roms at work?
Anyway, I'd give Blazer's 1.7 a chance. I like Clark's a lot too but to me Blazer seems a little more polished.
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Team sonic is the way to go...I feel the guy from blazer rom,,would make better use of his time working with clark44...after all there both tring to get preformance and battery life...2 heads are better than one
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blazer 1.7 is superfast. No lag, battery last almost 2 days
this message brought to you by my GalaxyS3 running Phantom's Blazer
Just flashed FreeGS3 v.0.0.9 its so sweet....
I started with Blazer 1.5. So far its been great up until the latest 1.7 update. It broke a lot of things even AFTER being released with a 100% chance of bootloop. No idea how that got past him and the testers. Ill try FGS3 and see how it goes.
On a different note, it pains me to see so many people asking tiring, old or silly questions about their phone (it sounds like half these people this is their first phone). How much faster and cleaner would threads be without every day someone asking a question that can be easily asked in Q&A or using Search/Google or reading the OP. I hope our GS3 userbase matures a little bit faster.
Pro-Con? Cyanogen?
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... On a different note, it pains me to see so many people asking tiring, old or silly questions about their phone (it sounds like half these people this is their first phone). How much faster and cleaner would threads be without every day someone asking a question that can be easily asked in Q&A or using Search/Google or reading the OP. I hope our GS3 userbase matures a little bit faster.
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As forum regular, you'll always encounter that from those of us who don't come here often. The fact is, stuff is hard to find from scratch because people don't always title their posts for clarity, major issues are discussed via thread-creep, and the search engine just doesn't deliver.
I looked today for a concise, simple pro-con comparing some of these ROMs to each other and to stock, and I didn't find one. I imagine the topic's been discussed in bits and pieces within multiple within threads here, but I couldn't find it in 10 minutes via search. Unless you're a regular reader, stuff is just hard to find quickly.
On the general topic, what's the consensus about Cyanogen 9? I ran C-7 on my GX2 and really liked the extensive customizations and features. I've seen lots of vague posts about the pros of C-9 on GS3, but no one's done even a basic con piece that I can find. It DOES look like the C-9 ROM has a very basic camera app with significantly fewer features than the stock ROM. What else do you lose with Cyanogen?
It looks to this non-expert like the ROMs you're debating here are relatively minor tweaks of stock ROM, while C-9 is an entirely different animal. I'm not such a hobbyist that I'm likely to flash a ROM for cooler animations, quicker transitions, or better menu transparencies. I see anecdotal claims that battery life is improved. How much better is it? Anyone tested it? What real functionality do you gain with these ROMs vs stock? What do you lose? I watched a video or two, and I remain unmoved.
Steve
smartin737 said:
As forum regular, you'll always encounter that from those of us who don't come here often. The fact is, stuff is hard to find from scratch because people don't always title their posts for clarity, major issues are discussed via thread-creep, and the search engine just doesn't deliver.
I looked today for a concise, simple pro-con comparing some of these ROMs to each other and to stock, and I didn't find one. I imagine the topic's been discussed in bits and pieces within multiple within threads here, but I couldn't find it in 10 minutes via search. Unless you're a regular reader, stuff is just hard to find quickly.
On the general topic, what's the consensus about Cyanogen 9? I ran C-7 on my GX2 and really liked the extensive customizations and features. I've seen lots of vague posts about the pros of C-9 on GS3, but no one's done even a basic con piece that I can find. It DOES look like the C-9 ROM has a very basic camera app with significantly fewer features than the stock ROM. What else do you lose with Cyanogen?
It looks to this non-expert like the ROMs you're debating here are relatively minor tweaks of stock ROM, while C-9 is an entirely different animal. I'm not such a hobbyist that I'm likely to flash a ROM for cooler animations, quicker transitions, or better menu transparencies. I see anecdotal claims that battery life is improved. How much better is it? Anyone tested it? What real functionality do you gain with these ROMs vs stock? What do you lose? I watched a video or two, and I remain unmoved.
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It looks like you've been lurking here for a while. I can't really answer your CM9 question because I haven't tried it because, well, CM10 is actually very stable. I can't give you exact battery stats, but it can go for longer than twelve hours with a few hours screen time for me. You lose a lot of Touchwiz motion features compared to stock, but you get smoother animations and Google Now and just plain stock Android. You do lose a lot of extra camera features but the camera is fully functional.
I've been reading up on both, trying to figure out which one to flash on my phone. Am I right in thinking that FreeGS3 is more feature-filled with mods (like the custom notification toggles and Google Now), while Blazer is closer to stock?
Has anyone written (or YouTubed) a good comparison of the two?
Running blazers 1.7 rom. Seems kind of fast. What's the whole thing about "jelly bean" The anjmstions? I is that suppose to be like project butters improved frame rate? Sorry for my noobness.
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deff would like to know the answer to this. i am currently using phantom blazer and its amazing but it does seem closer to stock. would freegs3 be able to do more alterations?
ive been personally trying to figure out how to change the amimations through roomtoolboxpro but still no luck with phamtom blazer.
jkvalentine88 said:
deff would like to know the answer to this. i am currently using phantom blazer and its amazing but it does seem closer to stock. would freegs3 be able to do more alterations?
ive been personally trying to figure out how to change the amimations through roomtoolboxpro but still no luck with phamtom blazer.
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Personally I prefer clarks. Why not just take it for a test drive, try it out for a few days and see what kind of mileage you get