What exactly is a kernel? - HTC One X

Well I'm used to flashing roms, mods, boot.img 's through recovery and what not but I always see people talking about different kernels, i've tried searching but can't find any explanations of what they actually do and how you go about installed them on the one x? Are there any disadvantages from installing a different kernel,
Thanks for your help
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Taken from faux's kernel post
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/5534201226_7e7d2d90eb_b.jpg
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647993

ArmedandDangerous said:
Taken from faux's kernel post
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/5534201226_7e7d2d90eb_b.jpg
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647993
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Thanks so do most people tend to change kernels for power management?
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kash20 said:
Thanks so do most people tend to change kernels for power management?
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It depends. Many custom kernels allow for undervolting, but at the expense of slightly sluggish performance coming out of deep sleep as the CPU ramps up to decent speeds again. Personally, stock kernel is pretty decent but currently using Faux's kernel for the GPU boost while gaming.

Just to confirm, I want to install franco's kernel on android revolution 9.0.0, so do i just install the rom as I usually do, then just flash a new boot.img and flash the kernel and that's it?

Just to add.. it goes without saying. Stock kernels are always the most stable and to be honest seem to be just as good performance and battery life as custom ones, if not better!:what:
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Best battery saver ROMs

Can anywone tell me a best rom for save battery ?
Now i have Oxygen 2.3.1 Bravo
I would think the Oxygen you're using would be one of the better one's for battery life. Don't go for Sense rom's as they'll drain your battery real quick.
Well anything oxygen based, or the gingervillan roms
Took me a week to finally get it right, but I've managed to get both speed, stability n a Schweeet batterylife
If I get the time this weekend, ill post how I did it, and all the steps from stock, out of the box, to end product
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I find that the insert coin rom isn't too bad on battery life. Well version 1.1.1 isn't. not sure on the newer versions though
Most AOSP ROMS have great battery life. But much of the battery life is to do with the kernel too, so picking a good kernel is paramount.
I'd agree on the kernel bit, but also, how you have android configured in general around it can have a noticeable effect.
The right rom, kernel, and also userspace setup/configuration all adds up
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Also black background for AMOLED screens is worth adding to the list.
Im curious guys on this battery subject?
I'm currently using aurora V3 but even before that I'm lucky to get a day out of it.
What potential increases am I looking at here?
Many thanks
cha0seng said:
Im curious guys on this battery subject?
I'm currently using aurora V3 but even before that I'm lucky to get a day out of it.
What potential increases am I looking at here?
Many thanks
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There is no way to guess or add a multiplier from your rom ro another to see potential increase unfortunately. It all depends how you use the phone. If the screen is on all the time, you wont see any increase in battery life as ROMs and kernels cannot control the amount of battery a Screen uses. This is a constant.
ROMs and kernels optimise CPU so that les spower is used, therefore things that use CPU will affectively waste less power.
The only way to test / compare is to flash something else and use it the same as you do every day.
rootSU said:
There is no way to guess or add a multiplier from your rom ro another to see potential increase unfortunately. It all depends how you use the phone. If the screen is on all the time, you wont see any increase in battery life as ROMs and kernels cannot control the amount of battery a Screen uses. This is a constant.
ROMs and kernels optimise CPU so that les spower is used, therefore things that use CPU will affectively waste less power.
The only way to test / compare is to flash something else and use it the same as you do every day.
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Thanks for the info; need to do abit of research into this kernel business as I've seen them mentioned alot and nodded in agreement (I have no idea!)
Click the link to guides in my signature. Read the kernel info thread. May help
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I don't mind if anyone throws me a pm in regards to seeking more out of the Desire.
And rootSU, we could always do a combined guide on the Desire and how to get the best out of it, if you like
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Ah I've got my share of guides out there. It's your turn now
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rootSU said:
Most AOSP ROMS have great battery life. But much of the battery life is to do with the kernel too, so picking a good kernel is paramount.
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Totally agree.
Aww ur no fun rootSU
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Lemme see what I can do this weekend
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Should I go from the assumption rootSU that the ppl will have a stock phone, or alrdy root obtained?
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Nutterpc said:
Should I go from the assumption rootSU that the ppl will have a stock phone, or alrdy root obtained?
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You could assume stock, then at the bottom add root only and mention kernels and set CPU, autokiller, autostarts etc etc
Rightyo, need to do shopping but will be back shortly
Might see what i can work out
AOSP roms are the best for battery of course, but if you like SenseUi, I recommend You InsertCoin 1.1.4 and kernel from -SNQ, (his kernels are better for battery from bananacakes)

Which kernel for charlemeon

Hello.
Which kernel would you recommend for charlemeon Rom? Sweep2unlock would be interesting but the most important thing is performance.
Thanks.
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for me theres only one, franco's r-9! its the best for me, battery life, performance, etc... LOL... try it, let the phone cycle for at least 2 days with the r-9, and everything will be perfect
Does it work smoothly with chatlemeon Rom? Suppress it have sweep 2 unlock?
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RazerRazer04 said:
Does it work smoothly with chatlemeon Rom? Suppress it have sweep 2 unlock?
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it doesn't have s2u, i believe it will only be available for brick kernel, because its his original work, you can also try it if you really like to have s2u, if you don't like the overall performance. you can just flash a new kernel, just don't forget to do back-up
I think we might not see sweep2wake on a different kernel other than bricked.
I'll say you definitely need to try faux kernel..give it a shot and you won't be disappointed.
try em' all, and you'll know what's the best kernel for you....

Changing Kernel on Aokp 7/28

I was just wondering if I should stick with the stock kernel that comes with task and ktoonez ROM or switch to ktoonez's kernel for even more butter/battery life?
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I'm not entirely sure if using ktoonez kernel will give you better battery life but you can overclock his kernel which could make things a bit smoother. You can also undervolt his kernel too which is a nice feature.
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thebz1 said:
I'm not entirely sure if using ktoonez kernel will give you better battery life but you can overclock his kernel which could make things a bit smoother. You can also undervolt his kernel too which is a nice feature.
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You should really advise someone that doesn't know to try both and see which one better suites the device in particular. All devices are not created equally and they all react differently to different kernels. While you may get better battery life with that kernel I do not. And so on and so on down the line.
Thanks guys. I have it flashed and I am giving it time to settle and see how it does...
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task650 said:
You should really advise someone that doesn't know to try both and see which one better suites the device in particular. All devices are not created equally and they all react differently to different kernels. While you may get better battery life with that kernel I do not. And so on and so on down the line.
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+1 I also get better battery on stock aokp kernel. And on KT kernel I can't get voltage control to stick all of the time and my phone bugs out from min being at 192.
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htc One X CM10 Kernel

what kernel is everyone else using with the one x cm10 nightlies. the stock kernel seems to drain the battery.
any comparisons and how important is the kernel?
This should've been posted on q&a section...
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ozozdil said:
what kernel is everyone else using with the one x cm10 nightlies. the stock kernel seems to drain the battery.
any comparisons and how important is the kernel?
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For me I have a very good battery life.
I am on hboot 1.31 and modded mdeejay boot.img, repacked using nibble with latest cm10 kernel.
I then went into performance to underclock the cpu freq to 1000mhz
(It reduced the device heat and more battery for me) it didn't hinder the performance at all. Still smooth.
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Not allowed to post in there yet, if your not able to answer the question, just move on.
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What is the best kernel so far?

I was wondering. I have viper x 3.3.7 with the latest kernel they provided. I had the ncx kernel before on 3.3.6. What I mean is which is the best kernel to choose that offers oc, uv, better battery life or performance or both?
I want to hear suggestions not a war.
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Every device is different. One kernel might run fine on one device but not another so I think it is a pointless question tbh. But I prefer xm
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antreasrx8 said:
I was wondering. I have viper x 3.3.7 with the latest kernel they provided. I had the ncx kernel before on 3.3.6. What I mean is which is the best kernel to choose that offers oc, uv, better battery life or performance or both?
I want to hear suggestions not a war.
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Try all the top three currently available
In no particular order:
1. XM Kernel
2. NCX Kernel
3. kozzmik kernel
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You have to try the various kernel.
Because every device have a different version of tegra 3.
In fact, every device support a different uv and oc
For sense the stock kernel is the best and the most stable
for AOSP I think ncx is the best
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NCX is for sure amazing for balance between performance and battery but Kozmikkick is just as good if not a bit more powerful with less battery life.
This is the problem with this question - it has a different answer depending mostly on the USE of the device - which is why everyone has a different view on which kernel is better or worse.
I've tested a few on AOSP (NCX, XM, Trip's and... er... sorry - I can't remember the last one right now!) and PERSONALLY I go with NCX, because it's the default for my rom (so one would think it's heavily tested) and it has very good battery life and the performance EASILY covers anything I throw at it.
XM does sound like it's more geared towards performance than the NCX, but as I said I didn't notice it - everything ran just as smooth, either kernel for me.
All of them
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There is no "best" Kernel. I suggest you read through the posts in the dev section and try a few. Its best to make up your own mind based on your needs. Everybody has a favourite, so discussions can get over heated. Thats why the moderation team generally closes "best" threads.​

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