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how tough HTC one x

look at this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aweXae_S3x8

OUCH that hurt my head! What a tool (excuse the pun)
Good to know I can use it to hammer a nail in, though I'll still use a hammer at the end of the day.

Wow.......just wow
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dont try this at you HOX

rubber nails being hammered into foam XD
even after this i still wouldn't use my hox without a screen protector :/

Considering I scratched my first one within a few days when it was in my pocket I very much doubt this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v98m74Cqq4E
this is not a bad test too i don't use any cases, no screen protector, been using a phone for more than a month at it still looks like brand new. although haven't dropped it yet. knock knock knock.
i think its a pretty tough phone

that was cruel

What the...

kept mine in a leather case with my driving liscence scratched the **** out of the screen with a plastic card rubbing on it wouldnt advise this lol

Definitly not the right way to use the HOX
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People who are saying they have scratch/cracked their HOX, don't you take any care if your phones. It's a new phone and your already dropping it. To be honest I kinda think some peoples glass strength is different for some reason.
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This kind of demage are not included in the warranty condition.
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Wonder how long before they get their first return from someone trying this!
Given how exposed the screen is (which is a plus design wise) it needs to be tough to last most people's contract terms.

Think this is a response to someone doing the same think to a nokia lumia 900 to show how strong the screen on that was.

He's obviously ordered himself an S3 and taken One X bashing to another level!!!

Haha great video, I taught only the corners of the screen were Gorilla glass.

Laurentius26 said:
Haha great video, I taught only the corners of the screen were Gorilla glass.
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I think you'll find it's Corning gorilla glass not corners gorilla glass.

The video is removed from Youtube if you click the link on first post.
HERE's the new location.

remove hairline scratches

This may seem like a dumb question and i have seen mixed results and various methods. I just bought a used GNex and didn't look at the screen close enough (deal was at night). The scratches are very thin and can only be seen in direct light, you have to look for the scratch most of the scratches expect one. Not noticeable with the screen on, they are very very thin.
Since its very minor it not to bad, but wondering if there is a way to "fill" it in with something. I have heard of Displex, Brasso, toothpaste, Banana and Banana Skin etc all claim to work on touchscreens. But this is an AMOLED screen and is made of glass as we all know.
I know toothpaste can be used on cars, headlights and CD's and actually have used it in the past. But never on a glass touchscreen.
Do you think any method would work?
I'm inclined to try toothpaste, but i heard the screen has a protective coding that will be removed from the screen if toothpaste is used.
The other idea I had which seems dumb is to use Zagg's solution and see many it will fill it in?
PS Yes I know the screen protect will work, but don't want to hide the scratches but rather fix them.

just live with them, end of story

There is no way to "fix" a scratch. It's an actual piece of glass missing. All that could be done would be to wear the entire screen down to that level, which is what the so called repair kits do. For obvious reasons you don't want to wear down the GNex screen.

Yea,there's nothing to do to fix it.you can hide it,but not fix it. You can on non touch screen gadgets,but not on SAMOLED.toothpaste wouldnt work,banana would just make your screen mute,and you for shure cannot brush it out with sandpaper then polish it. Live with it,believe me,99% of us in the Gnex forum have them,i wanted to cry when i noticed it,but its just not worthy. You will forget about it in a few days.

Mine has a tiny one on the lower left hand side of the screen, and it rarely bugs me anymore. You can only see it from certain angles. And trust me, I'm a freak about this stuff.

I have some of these. Because you actually have to look for them to see them I don't mind at all. If I could see them with the screen on then I'd be *****ing.

I'm just mad i didn't check the phone enough when I bought it, trusted the guy when he said it has no scratches. Well I'm not going to be using it. Its for my momma, paid $200 CAD which was alright.
The scratches are noticeable with the screen off in regular light, but not with the screen on.

If you want to use a screen protector, the wet apply ones fill in the scratch and make it harder to see.
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How did you guys scratch the screen? I don't have scratches at all...well after reading this thread I want to say I probably do and will find a few if I look closely enough...
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msavic6 said:
If you want to use a screen protector, the wet apply ones fill in the scratch and make it harder to see.
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Yeah thinking of getting a Zagg, hate the rubbery feel though. Any recommendations?

jebise101 said:
Yeah thinking of getting a Zagg, hate the rubbery feel though. Any recommendations?
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I've heard that GhostArmour is less rubbery and there's another brand called *exoskin*(not 100% sure of the name) I think which also makes a wet apply screen protector that's better then zagg.
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I recently purchased xoskin and it works quite well. Can't see the scratch on my screen at all. Watch their YouTube video.
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BrianKLV said:
I recently purchased xoskin and it works quite well. Can't see the scratch on my screen at all. Watch their YouTube video.
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Yeah generally the Wet screen protectors will "fill" in micro scratches. If im not mistaken xoskin gives a lifetime warranty as well right?

Oil/fingerprints on your screen (about 8 months into use)

Hi!
Particularly to people who've owned their GS3 for a number of months: has your screen become a oil/fingerprint magnet? It didn't used to be one in the beginning, but now I get it all the time (I got it in July 2012).
Sometimes, I get that odd rainbow effect when the oil just kind of "sits" on the screen. Disgusting, I know, but my hands aren't that oily...it just seems to pick up a lot more of it than it used to!
I just wipe it on my pants (lol): what do you guys do, if yours has this issue?

I think that's a property inherent to every touchscreen. Good thing about this one, though, is that it's very easy to clean.
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the oleophobic coating has probably worn off

ikjadoon said:
Hi!
Particularly to people who've owned their GS3 for a number of months: has your screen become a oil/fingerprint magnet? It didn't used to be one in the beginning, but now I get it all the time (I got it in July 2012).
Sometimes, I get that odd rainbow effect when the oil just kind of "sits" on the screen. Disgusting, I know, but my hands aren't that oily...it just seems to pick up a lot more of it than it used to!
I just wipe it on my pants (lol): what do you guys do, if yours has this issue?
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I have a zagg HD invisible skin. Super easy to clean. Don't even know its there.
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Its developed micro scratches that are holding in the oils more.
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@CZ Eddie
If I tilt just right in the light, I do have some faint tiny scratches on the screen, but the "finger smears" are all over the screen (i.e. not localized to the scratches). But, I can see them playing a small part...
@dLo GSR
The oleophobic coating! That actually makes a ton of sense, as it just attracts oil like crazy. I Google'd it and it's a known problem with Apple iPhones and iPads (even the iPhone 5's manual says the coating will wear off!). Samsung's manual is worthless in this regard, but I don't think they've got anything better than Apple.
@KorGuy
Yeah, I think I have two options: screen protector (which will also protect against scratches) or re-apply the oleophobic coating (as stated through this iFixIt guide). Hmm...I need to sleep on this (the screen protector looks a lot simpler, haha).
~Ibrahim~

ikjadoon said:
Hi!
Particularly to people who've owned their GS3 for a number of months: has your screen become a oil/fingerprint magnet? It didn't used to be one in the beginning, but now I get it all the time (I got it in July 2012).
Sometimes, I get that odd rainbow effect when the oil just kind of "sits" on the screen. Disgusting, I know, but my hands aren't that oily...it just seems to pick up a lot more of it than it used to!
I just wipe it on my pants (lol): what do you guys do, if yours has this issueOTE]
Yea man mines the same way. When I first got it, it was very resistant to fingerprints now one text message and it's nasty! Have you used any cleaners? I asked my gf to clean my screen and she used windex and I think that may have assisted in taking it off Now I'm using Spigen Ultra Nano Clear and it's great! Anyway, keep me updated if you reapply oleophobic coating. Would like to know how it works!
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Wilcox12 said:
ikjadoon said:
Hi!
Particularly to people who've owned their GS3 for a number of months: has your screen become a oil/fingerprint magnet? It didn't used to be one in the beginning, but now I get it all the time (I got it in July 2012).
Sometimes, I get that odd rainbow effect when the oil just kind of "sits" on the screen. Disgusting, I know, but my hands aren't that oily...it just seems to pick up a lot more of it than it used to!
I just wipe it on my pants (lol): what do you guys do, if yours has this issueOTE]
Yea man mines the same way. When I first got it, it was very resistant to fingerprints now one text message and it's nasty! Have you used any cleaners? I asked my gf to clean my screen and she used windex and I think that may have assisted in taking it off Now I'm using Spigen Ultra Nano Clear and it's great! Anyway, keep me updated if you reapply oleophobic coating. Would like to know how it works!
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Oh, HOLY SNIPPETS. I totally forgot; about a month ago, I used a lens cleaner on the screen! I just checked it....90% alcohol. That probably made this a little premature. Shucks. Whale, that's not the worst thing to happen, haha.
Totally! It might be a few weeks until I get everything, but I'll deliver with either the screen protector I chose or how the reapplying of the coating went.
Cool beans. Thank you, mates!
~Ibrahim~
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dLo GSR said:
the oleophobic coating has probably worn off
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This is exactly what has happened. For this reason, I don't clean my screen unless absolutely necessary.

you have two options, buy this http://www.amazon.com/Anti-fingerprint-Oleophobic-SmartPhone-necessary-yourself/dp/B008HVBU9O
or just apply RainX, it will make it more easy to clean.

eortizr said:
you have two options, buy this http://www.amazon.com/Anti-fingerprint-Oleophobic-SmartPhone-necessary-yourself/dp/B008HVBU9O
or just apply RainX, it will make it more easy to clean.
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I used to have Ghost Armor, but after it got all yellow and orange peely, I threw in the trash. Now I use a super cheap screen protector that came with my really nice case, but its a fingerprint magnet.
Can I just apply RainX to it and it will be better? I have RainX in my garage.

eortizr said:
you have two options, buy this http://www.amazon.com/Anti-fingerprint-Oleophobic-SmartPhone-necessary-yourself/dp/B008HVBU9O
or just apply RainX, it will make it more easy to clean.
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Right...I didn't know about RainX working here (wouldn't it stop hydrophillic things, like water, but not hydrophobic things, like oil?), but it also only lasts 3-4 months on a car (http://www.rainx.com/tips-information/faqs/), so maybe 1 year on a phone? How do you know it's safe to use on the phone?
Yes, the Fusso I listed above; it again only lasts for 3-6 months. Here's a review posted last week of someone using it on their iPad: generally positive, but a commenter also mentions some car waxes as cheaper alternatives.

dLo GSR said:
the oleophobic coating has probably worn off
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I didn't think the GS3 had an oleophobic coating.

Is there any way to prevent this? or should I just keep cleaning it?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003WQMYN0/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/180-5840696-1177505?tag=vglnk-c1061-20
Cleaner that adds a finger proof coating
Hesitant to try a product intended for Apple products...

Heisenberg420 said:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003WQMYN0/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/180-5840696-1177505?tag=vglnk-c1061-20
Cleaner that adds a finger proof coating
Hesitant to try a product intended for Apple products...
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Since iPhone also uses gorilla glass I wouldn't think it would be a problem. But I'm still waiting on someone to try these products first!
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Is there any way to prevent this? or should I just keep cleaning it?
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From what I've read the best way to clean your screen is to use distilled water and a microfiber cloth. Supposedly the toxins in tap water can be harmful to your screen. You can get a gallon of distilled water at the grocery store for like 70cents, which is what I've been doing since I bought my screen protector and so far oleophobic coating is still intact!
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Unless you're living somewhere where the tap water is not treated, there shouldn't be any toxins in your tap water. If there are, you've got much bigger problems than oily smartphone screens... There will be some minerals in there and maybe fluoride. I doubt there's anything in tap water that would damage your screen, not that there's anything wrong with using distilled water. In either case, a damp microfibre cloth or a drop of water on your screen wiped with a microfibre cloth should be very effective at cleaning the screen and probably much safer than alcohol or solvent based cleaners (although the literature I've read on Gorilla glass suggests it's resistant to alcohol, acetone and a number of other chemicals, but maybe over time they do wear down the coating).
In any case, I'm really responding to this thread because I recently discovered this product:
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/HOW-TO-COAT-Anti-Fingerprint-Oleophobic-Coating-by-yourself/9682/
Purchase at: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008HVBU9O?tag=ifixitam-20
Here's one with a few reviews: http://www.amazon.com/API-Fingerpri...&ie=UTF8&qid=1361976179&sr=1-1&keywords=fusso
I personally wouldn't put a lot of faith in anything from Monster (maybe they're better now but to me they will always be the company selling ludicrously overpriced HDMI cables and suing anyone with "monster" anywhere in their name regardless of context). But this product looks interesting. It seems to be similar to the original coating used on Gorilla and similar glasses.
I'm wondering if it adds scratch resistance and reduces visibility of existing scratches. If so, I think I'd prefer adding a coat of this every 3 months than using a screen protector. I have a semi-broken HTC phone with the original Gorilla Glass which happens to have a small but visible scratch on it. I think I'm going to order one of these and use the HTC screen to test it on. If it works well I'll try in on my S3 which has a much bigger scratch. I suspect it will be very difficult to photograph but I'll post results when I get it.

compro01 said:
I didn't think the GS3 had an oleophobic coating.
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it does.

eortizr said:
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I like that Rain-X option...
I'll probably even try some Aquapel on my good ol' GS1 next time I treat my windshield! :good:

Wouldn't it be simpler to put on a screen protector? I've had a screen protector on mine since day 1 (not even costly, I think I got like 3 for less than $10), and its still going strong... hard to say its even there

Is gorilla glass 5 a faulty product? Scratched phones!

I pretty much already started talking about it in a different thread but I figured I should start a new thread. The issue is a lot of the phones that I've seen are already scratched up in the back and some even on the front. Frankly I'm quite surprised that after one to two weeks these phones are not holding up. I suppose I can always get tempered glass on the front, it's some kind of clear shield on the back but wouldn't you expect with the way Gorilla Glass performed in the past that gorilla glass 5 would have been better? Scratching my head on this one, but thought maybe if we get enough complaints or pictures of it, maybe Samsung or Cornering will address it?
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I pretty much already started talking about it in a different thread but I figured I should start a new thread. The issue is a lot of the phones that I've seen are already scratched up in the back and some even on the front. Frankly I'm quite surprised that after one to two weeks these phones are not holding up. I suppose I can always get tempered glass on the front, it's some kind of clear shield on the back but wouldn't you expect with the way Gorilla Glass performed in the past that gorilla glass 5 would have been better? Scratching my head on this one, but thought maybe if we get enough complaints or pictures of it, maybe Samsung or Cornering will address it?
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All I've seen are the full-size pics of that particular phone in the crop you made. It literally looks like someone stepped on its face and dragged it along its back on a concrete or tile floor. One scratched phone does not a crisis or epidemic make. Unless Corning wants to go out of business the scratches in that pic couldn't have been from casual use.

Someone in another thread said they placed their phone in their pocket and got a scratch on the front after one day. I just didn't want to hijack someone else's thread so I started this one. Many people have seen the same thing at various locations
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And here is a different phone. I know same color but it's a different one which isn't that great of a pic but you can see it on the bottom too

Ugh, with this thread. The phone isn't even fully out yet. You have begun a conspiracy based on two pics of early releases that you didn't scratch yourself. Who are you, the DNC?
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jackdforme said:
Ugh, with this thread. The phone isn't even fully out yet. You have begun a conspiracy based on two pics of early releases that you didn't scratch yourself. Who are you, the DNC?
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Lol
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I have drove by three different stores with display units and I can confirm that all three units had more scratches already than the other prior gorilla glass phones. I really hope it's not an issue, but they looked bad enough for me to hold off on the preorder till I see some real life accounts.
Two of the phones had similar scratches as the op picture, the last had deep gashes on the screen. I snuck a pic of the last one.
Yup, those are scuffs on the middle of the screen, not smudges. Is it a coincidence all three are banged up? I sure hope so.

Until they decide to make screens out of sapphire or diamond then it'll always get scratched regardless, gorilla glass scratches just as easily as any tempered glass and things like dust or sand particles will always be able to scratch glass.
Don't expect the glass to be better just because the number went up by 1, what's actually made better is shatter resistance.

You all need to understand that Gorilla glass 4 & 5 are same "scratch" resistant. The difference between the two is the Gorilla 5 is less "breakable". Don't get scratch and breakable mixed-up.

I've been a long time samsung smart phone user and I have noticed one thing in common with the 'scratch resistance' on my phones, It seems that the oleophobic coating on the samsung devices gets scratched easily while the only 2 Huawei devices ive owned ( Nexus 6P and P9 Plus ) never had a hairline scratch until this day.

Good Lord - the phone's not even out yet. This is like the RAM thread, one YouTube video showing multitasking being funky has everyone's underwear in a bunch. If GG5 scratches easily we'll know about 30 days after the phone's in people's hands. Same thing for multitasking performance. If the potential for those being problems freaks you out wait a month before buying the phone. All this self-created hysteria and conclusion drawing based on such limited evidence isn't going to alter reality.

I don't get why they haven't included self healing properties to glass screens yet.

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I don't get why they haven't included self healing properties to glass screens yet.
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It's typically because the self healing nature of the material is plastic not glass and the substrate winds up skewing the optical clarity of the lens.
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Isnt the thing thats scratched in that photo the plastic cover over the screen and not the screen itself ?

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Isnt the thing thats scratched in that photo the plastic cover over the screen and not the screen itself ?
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Lol sure does look like it. There is varying blue colors on the first pic around the edge before the gold rim. Looks ro be the case...nice eye. Didnt notice it until just now.

Wondering if people are "testing" it intentionally on the demo models?
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Isnt the thing thats scratched in that photo the plastic cover over the screen and not the screen itself ?
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FYI the first image is my pic and not the OP. It's from a tmobile store by my work. I handled it myself and it did not have any protector on it. Here are the originals.
I pointed it out to the rep and he even tried scratching it off lol. Of course it didn't come off. He said they haven't been handing the demo well and has been tossed on the table etc.

Is it possible that Samsung sent these out with substandard glass cause they sent then as display models? Or do they not bother doing something like that? Maybe that's why they scratch easy?
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Is it possible that Samsung sent these out with substandard glass cause they sent then as display models? Or do they not bother doing something like that? Maybe that's why they scratch easy?
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I highly doubt that.
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MACHEK said:
Is it possible that Samsung sent these out with substandard glass cause they sent then as display models? Or do they not bother doing something like that? Maybe that's why they scratch easy?
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No. I think it's more that folks expect miracles. It's glass after all (and it's only a phone, not a military application)

OP3 screen protection

Hi OP3 owners! Need your advice, I put my eye on OP but made a little research and see that there is problems with screen protectors for it because of rounded edge. What is your opinion?
Now I hesitate and thinking about mi5
Thank you!

well there is a screen protector already on the phone preinstalled. but its not glass if thats what you want

Yeah, but as I have read it is not the best, and the screen is the weakest phone part and need to be protected... So i just dont knmow what to do. I wonder how good is Gorilla 4, can it protect screen from general factors for 2 years?

I got myself a imitation orzly kinda screenprotector.
It works perfect edge to edge. It has a bit of rainbow when the screen is not on.

Darkje said:
It works perfect edge to edge. It has a bit of rainbow when the screen is not on.
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You call that perfect?

You call that perfect?
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Listen all screens that have a small curve have this issues with a sp. That my tgsp sometimes gives me a little bit of rainbow. Yeah I can live with that. It is way better then replacing screens after a drop. 90℅ of the time rainbow ain't there.
Anyways. You want a perfect settled screenprotector. 2 options. Get a flat screen. Or get a foil based screenprotector. Noting along the side will be 100% perfect. But hey just my 2 cents.

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I wonder how good is Gorilla 4, can it protect screen from general factors for 2 years?
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If you take care of your device it's more than good enough.
My previous phone had Gorilla Glass 2 - after 3 years the screen still looks the same as on day one. The phone was kept in the same pocket as keys and never had any screen protectors or cases. Dropped twice: once from car seat level onto its side (onto asphalt), once from pocket level flat on its back (onto concrete tiles).
I'd dare saying that Gorilla Glass is pretty damn durable ? It will survive anything short of direct hit. But then again, even screen protectors won't do much against that.
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No problem here