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[Q] BBM for Androids? Maybe

Hello, Newbie to Android world here - receiving my HTC Desire, hopefully, next week.
Just wanted to share some information regarding an application called "LiveProfile" which will soon be released that incorporates BBM for Androids, if im not mistaken.
Anyone heard of it?

Just looked it up and from what I can see its a replacement for bbm. It will work across iPhone, blackberry and android. Basically MSN messenger for phones.
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I've been using a BlackBerry for practically 2 years now and I have to say perhaps the only application that has the BB stand out among its rivals is the BlackBerry Messenger - now with LiveProfile, I'm very excited for the upcoming release of this app.

What's the advantage of this over WhatsApp or PingChat? Those are both multi-platform already, and with WhatsApp there's no need for a user name as it uses your phone number, so anyone in your contacts with the application is automatically in your friend list.

Yeah, why another one? ... PingChat is OK.
I know, competition is good.
But for this kind of app, I just want ONE ...
It seems impossible.
Wait until someone created multi of multi IM of multi IM ...

PingChat is a good one.

MJwitter: well, quite frankly, i believe there is one prime advantage over iphone's Whatsapp in terms of privacy. With "whatsapp" you do not necessarily have to have the contact on your list, just as long as he has your number he is able to send you msgs - which a lot of people would find annoying (you could probably ignore them, im not sure, but its a terrible feature initially)
gogol + lukehluke: i have never heard of ping chat before. i'll have to google it. However, as i have mentioned earlier i believe this application is intended to merge bbm, whatsapp and so on all under one roof - again I am uncertain of this information; however, hopefully this turns out to be the advantage of LiveProfile.
Nonetheless, thank you for sharing that information.
I just checked it out; however it seems to display an error when i clicked on "Join Now." Is this application not yet released?

there are quite a few BBM replacements available. They will never connect to BBM Contacts but provide the same functionality.
1. PingChat
2. Cnectd
3. LucidMessenger
4. Pmessenger
those are all i know of atm.

I'll try ping chat on HTC, just as soon as I get it by next week.
I heard about Pmessenger, but the reviews weren't very good.

Is WhatsApp ever coning out for android?, ive tried to convert a few people over to ping chat but they all use whatsapp
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I'm confused. Help me. What is the differences between pingchat,whatsapp and IM messenger such ebuddy, fringe, and nimbuzz?

LOL try to be patient, my friend.
Ive been trying to do that for the past 24 hrs too. fortunately, a few ppl installed it.
however,they dont need to "convert" to pingchat, ask them to install it and they could use both ;D

antu_pogroms said:
I'm confused. Help me. What is the differences between pingchat,whatsapp and IM messenger such ebuddy, fringe, and nimbuzz?
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Pingchat and Whatsapp? call themselves 'SMS Replacement' apps. Wherein they act like BBM so you can send a message whether a person is online or offline. These apps can only be used between their respective clients i.e. Pingchat-to-Pingchat, Whatsapp?-to-Whatsapp?
IM clients connect through AIM, MSN, Facebook &c.

Whatsapp Beta works. Google up Whatsapp android beta and youll find a download link on a facebook page. Install it and then you may get authorization error just wait like 1 day and try again and it will work. Been working well cant find any bugs with it yet.

I tried what you said but only info seems to say the beta is only available for people living in san fansisco and whatsapp put the app on your phone from there office?, cant seem to find a download link or apk file, if you have a link can you post it or reply to me with a pm to the link please, thanks.
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Ok i found it
http://beta.whatsapp.com/WhatsApp.apk
It installs fine but doesnt seem to work as you need to register to be a beta tester.
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yea like i said install it it will fail just wait and try again tommorow and it will start working. lots of people have reported success after waiting a while

Cool, i'll update in a day or 2 if its working, did you email them to request to be a beta tester or just try it after a few days and it worked without emailing them?
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Didn't send an email
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Cool, its started working.
Ok, my quick review - pingchat vs whatsapp
Its alot faster than pingchat in terms of messages being delivered, sometimes pingchat lags a very long time and also pingtchat soelmetimes doesnt give notifications unless you open the app, so whatsapp wins on those two.
But pingchat has a MUCH better look and feet to it, and it works on phone numbers & ID's so you can use either, but whatsapp only works over phone numbers, so unless i have the persons phone number i cant message them on whatsapp, but on pingchat you can just use there id and dont need there phone number so pingchat wins on that.
So both have goods & bads, ping chat is free though which is a plus, if you check in the account info in the whatsapp beta, it says it expires in November 2010, so i asume thats when it goes live in the android marketplace, it also has an upgrade option so it will definatly be a paid app when its released and have a limeted free use period
More people use whatsapp so its better "at the moment", but pingchat has a much better feel to it, so hopfully more people start using pingchat.
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WeChat..Voice Chat App Like Voxer But Better

http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/23e1505b-9383-4ed4-9195-da23a3442820
[Description]
WeChat is a robust and comprehensive voice chatting app with photo sharing! With WeChat, you can chat with one or more friends, and find people around through LBS. It is available for iOS, Android, Symbian and Windows Phone platforms. WeChat for Windows Phone support devices with Windows Phone 7.5 platform.
[What’s new]
1. “Shake” to add new friends;
2. Put your message in the bottle and throw it into the sea;
3. Added network traffic;
[Feature list]
1. Send hold-to-talk voice messages;
2. Send text messages, and share photos with friends;
3. Enjoy group chat up to 20 people;
4. Finding people nearby according to location data;
5. Support registration via phone number in over 100 countries/regions;
pretty good app just needs more u.s. users i like it better than voxer

Yeah I have it, it's pretty sick just that 90% of all the people there are all Asians and can't speak English properly hahaahaha

Where are the audio clips saved? I looked in both the wechat voice and tencent folder.

I have tried this app for a few days and it seems i my opinion to be better than watsapp and viber. Only thing i have found is some voice messages from a friends iphone are silent. maybe his iphone tho..
It needs some way to notify the user that the message has been sent and recieved (unless i have missed that bit) .
All in all its not to bad and the voice works.

tamiktamik said:
Yeah I have it, it's pretty sick just that 90% of all the people there are all Asians and can't speak English properly hahaahaha
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At least they try!!

Gtalk vs G+ messenger

Hello,
What do think about them? I feel they are almost the same... can I disable talk and keep only messenger? Have any one tried that?
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I wish G+ messenger had the same ICS style UI as GTalk . But on G+ you can text pics and use hangouts. The only thing I don't like about G+ messenger is there is no led notification which GTalk has.
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I don't see why Google doesn't just unify all of its messaging services (Google voice/talk and g+ messenger) into one service. Hopefully that's where it's heading.
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Jameslepable said:
I don't see why Google doesn't just unify all of its messaging services (Google voice/talk and g+ messenger) into one service. Hopefully that's where it's heading.
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I've been talking about this with my friends for the longest time. The fact that GTalk can't send files is a kind of a huge issue for me as other wise its a great service. What I would love to see Google do is take a kind of Apple approach to it.. One messaging app that can text from your phones number or your Google voice number as you so designate, and, if the person your messaging is likewise using an Android 4.0.x and above platform, it would automatically send via data with higher limits to what you could send as opposed to text, and it would link to video calls and hangouts and such like GTalk and Messenger, can send files other than pictures.
Basically, one unified messenger to rule them all. I am not a huge apple fan, but I like the concept of iMessage and I know that if El Goog took the time to make it so, they could unify their services into one glorious messaging platform.
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GTalk anyday.
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lovelymanmk said:
Hello,
What do think about them? I feel they are almost the same... can I disable talk and keep only messenger? Have any one tried that?
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Unfortunately they are very different. Messenger is mobile only and requires the user have the G+ app but it does offer more features. GTalk allows you to message anyone on an Android or through the web on Gmail or G+. They really need to merge these messaging services into one as it is very confusing.

Andro X said:
I wish G+ messenger had the same ICS style UI as GTalk . But on G+ you can text pics and use hangouts. The only thing I don't like about G+ messenger is there is no led notification which GTalk has.
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Install lightflow

Gtalk is the backend for android push service.
Hopefully they do integrate their talk services but don't disable Gtalk...
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Google just bought Meebo so I would assume we will see some improvements in this area later this year or early next year at the latest. They have to know their current implementation is not very good.

I'm confused. The GTalk and GChat programs on a PC have been able to send files for years. And on the phone neither GTalk or G+ Messenger can send files, so I'm not sure where that comparison came from.
To share large files (or 300 photos) just toss them on Google Drive or Dropbox. I haven't checked, but there's also probably an app to take advantage of Wifi-Direct to "beam" it locally.
Also, G+ messenger doesn't have a standalone PC application. That is no good for unifying. I use the PC app at home/work, and phone app elsewhere. Having to keep your browser open to chat is a real nuisance IMHO.

bcrules82 said:
I'm confused. The GTalk and GChat programs on a PC have been able to send files for years. And on the phone neither GTalk or G+ Messenger can send files, so I'm not sure where that comparison came from.
To share large files (or 300 photos) just toss them on Google Drive or Dropbox. I haven't checked, but there's also probably an app to take advantage of Wifi-Direct to "beam" it locally.
Also, G+ messenger doesn't have a standalone PC application. That is no good for unifying. I use the PC app at home/work, and phone app elsewhere. Having to keep your browser open to chat is a real nuisance IMHO.
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However the GTalk client on Android does not allow for sending any files whatsoever. And while yes you could use drop box or drive or others as a workaround, what I'm saying is that including that support on the Android Platform app would be amazing. And a huge incentive to use it over regular texting.
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Gene_Bailey said:
However the GTalk client on Android does not allow for sending any files whatsoever. And while yes you could use drop box or drive or others as a workaround, what I'm saying is that including that support on the Android Platform app would be amazing. And a huge incentive to use it over regular texting.
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There is nothing better than a good ticket:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=43010
maybe if it's starred enough google will be pushed to finally make it happen? I would love to see the integration, in the gtalk UI with additional features like sending files/pictures and improved notifications ( http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=43009 )

I've already voted
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.wojtek said:
There is nothing better than a good ticket:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=43010
maybe if it's starred enough google will be pushed to finally make it happen? I would love to see the integration, in the gtalk UI with additional features like sending files/pictures and improved notifications ( http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=43009 )
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I starred this as well. Gonna try and create a but of a stir to gain it some recognition online to with a few articles submitted to different websites.
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Gene_Bailey said:
I starred this as well. Gonna try and create a but of a stir to gain it some recognition online to with a few articles submitted to different websites.
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Thanks. That would be nice to get this some traction. There were actually already some articles pointing out the issue but those faded away without any impact.
Nevertheless - it can't be ruled out that google is already working on this (*fingers crossed*)

I prefer Gtalk being left alone. Also I don't know why but Google keeps adding random people to my g+ messenger contact list. They are not on my circles either.

niks4101 said:
I prefer Gtalk being left alone. Also I don't know why but Google keeps adding random people to my g+ messenger contact list. They are not on my circles either.
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maybe you have added them as following? Had same problem but then I went to chat -> privacy settings and selected "my circles" and in g+ settings I selected only a few close circles as "my circles" and actually the list is waaay shorter (and is basically the same as in gtalk).

Google NEEDS to add facebook integration already!!!!!!!

No its not enough to use an "app" for it as they have limited functionality and running a custom rom just to get facebook integration is even more idiotic.
Its about time google realized google+ is never going to stop facebook domination just give it up already please, facebook is like youtube there is nothing else like it and wont be. Every other major platform including non-nexus android phones as well have native facebook contact integration now.
And dont tell me facebook is being ridiculous with their demands, you know when apple can man up and accept facebook domination as something that cant be ignored then why is google being a ***** about it?

Gambler_3 said:
No its not enough to use an "app" for it as they have limited functionality and running a custom rom just to get facebook integration is even more idiotic.
Its about time google realized google+ is never going to stop facebook domination just give it up already please, facebook is like youtube there is nothing else like it and wont be. Every other major platform including non-nexus android phones as well have native facebook contact integration now.
And dont tell me facebook is being ridiculous with their demands, you know when apple can man up and accept facebook domination as something that cant be ignored then why is google being a ***** about it?
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no, facebook needs to comply with the APIs.

So you want Facebook contacts? Doesn't it already sync with your contacts. What's it missing. And Google shouldn't stop G+. The second businesses tuck there tails because there's a better product is when consumers suffer. Google is trying to make a good network. Use Google plus its actually very good. Facebook is about ads and making money. We are just not getting a native android app
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I personally don't like having my Facebook contact numbers cluttering my phonebook so it isn't a deal breaker by any means. I'd rather they keep the stock Android experience as minimal as possible.
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Zepius said:
no, facebook needs to comply with the APIs.
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They complied with them in gingerbread and Google blocked com.facebook.katana in syncproviders.apk. So either way, Google will not allow it.
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ECBomb said:
I personally don't like having my Facebook contact numbers cluttering my phonebook so it isn't a deal breaker by any means. I'd rather they keep the stock Android experience as minimal as possible.
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Having Facebook contacts sync with already existing contacts is a nice feature imho (G+ does this). I wouldn't want to sync all my FB contacts obviously.

Doesn't the app sync with your contacts already ?
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Gambler_3 said:
No its not enough to use an "app" for it as they have limited functionality and running a custom rom just to get facebook integration is even more idiotic.
Its about time google realized google+ is never going to stop facebook domination just give it up already please, facebook is like youtube there is nothing else like it and wont be. Every other major platform including non-nexus android phones as well have native facebook contact integration now.
And dont tell me facebook is being ridiculous with their demands, you know when apple can man up and accept facebook domination as something that cant be ignored then why is google being a ***** about it?
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facebook has nothing to do with google, youtube does. just because youre a heavy facebook user, thats youre choice. im a heavy g+ user, and dont even have the facebook app installed, nor would never want it installed on my device. deal with it instead of crying about it.

Gambler_3 said:
No its not enough to use an "app" for it as they have limited functionality and running a custom rom just to get facebook integration is even more idiotic.
Its about time google realized google+ is never going to stop facebook domination just give it up already please, facebook is like youtube there is nothing else like it and wont be. Every other major platform including non-nexus android phones as well have native facebook contact integration now.
And dont tell me facebook is being ridiculous with their demands, you know when apple can man up and accept facebook domination as something that cant be ignored then why is google being a ***** about it?
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Lol!!!!!!!

If you want FB integration get an HTC phone. The nexus is pure Google....and there is nothing Google about FB.
Plus getting FB pics to sync is worthless since 90% of the people put pics of their cats up as a profile image...lol

It would be different if Google were asking for the moon, upgrading to the modern APIs should be child's play for facebook.
It doesn't affect me however, I don't even have an account on that lackluster ad platform.

You do understand the Facebook sync is ready to go right? They just need to make a native app with the appropriate api's. Am with Google on this one, if you don't make a native app (f*ck html5 apps) they should be able to sync.
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turdbogls said:
If you want FB integration get an HTC phone. The nexus is pure Google....and there is nothing Google about FB.
Plus getting FB pics to sync is worthless since 90% of the people put pics of their cats up as a profile image...lol
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Uhmmmm. That one might be just you lol
simms22 said:
facebook has nothing to do with google, youtube does. just because youre a heavy facebook user, thats youre choice. im a heavy g+ user, and dont even have the facebook app installed, nor would never want it installed on my device. deal with it instead of crying about it.
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Yea except everyone uses fb. I cant name one friend that uses google+. Especially international. And i go to a tech school. Legit too. Not that itt internet school crap lol
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Gambler_3 said:
No its not enough to use an "app" for it as they have limited functionality and running a custom rom just to get facebook integration is even more idiotic.
Its about time google realized google+ is never going to stop facebook domination just give it up already please, facebook is like youtube there is nothing else like it and wont be. Every other major platform including non-nexus android phones as well have native facebook contact integration now.
And dont tell me facebook is being ridiculous with their demands, you know when apple can man up and accept facebook domination as something that cant be ignored then why is google being a ***** about it?
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As much as a phone revolves around being a social device a lot of us don't want social clutter on our phones, not to mention apple probably patented Facebook integration. In yo face in yo face!
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So...why should Google make Facebook's app work?
The APIs have been around since ICS.

Dri94 said:
Uhmmmm. That one might be just you lol
Yea except everyone uses fb. I cant name one friend that uses google+. Especially international. And i go to a tech school. Legit too. Not that itt internet school crap lol
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Yeah well, I go to a crap internet school, and even I knew the APIs that Facebook needs to use have been around since ICS and that the sync problem lies squarely on Facebook's shoulders.
So much for your 'legit' school.

DroidDavi said:
Doesn't the app sync with your contacts already ?
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Only with existing contacts, there is no way to export numbers from profiles. Like anyone who has given their number on their facebook profile, they will be automatically added to your phonebook even if you didnt have their number with native integration but not possible on a nexus phone. Nobody is talking about having ALL the facebook contacts in your phonebook only those with a number.
And I dont get pics of a few people because people can choose to block the app from interacting their profile. Dont know what that really means but thats what the app devs say and it holds true as I dont get pics for a few users.

Gambler_3 said:
No its not enough to use an "app" for it as they have limited functionality and running a custom rom just to get facebook integration is even more idiotic.
Its about time google realized google+ is never going to stop facebook domination just give it up already please, facebook is like youtube there is nothing else like it and wont be. Every other major platform including non-nexus android phones as well have native facebook contact integration now.
And dont tell me facebook is being ridiculous with their demands, you know when apple can man up and accept facebook domination as something that cant be ignored then why is google being a ***** about it?
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Waaaaaaaaah what are you? Like 15? Its a social media tool not your life smfh
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Gambler_3 said:
No its not enough to use an "app" for it as they have limited functionality and running a custom rom just to get facebook integration is even more idiotic.
Its about time google realized google+ is never going to stop facebook domination just give it up already please, facebook is like youtube there is nothing else like it and wont be. Every other major platform including non-nexus android phones as well have native facebook contact integration now.
And dont tell me facebook is being ridiculous with their demands, you know when apple can man up and accept facebook domination as something that cant be ignored then why is google being a ***** about it?
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Eff that. Not everyone uses facebook. Not everyone wants to use it on their phone.
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The galaxy S3 has fb integration its plain foolish to think that google isnt doing it because it obviously doesnt like facebook and is hiding around some stupid excuse.
And it does NOT matter if G+ is better because no one uses it. I didnt say google should retire G+ no but that they should stop thinking that they can bring down facebook and be friends with them.

What the hell is up with all the people here? So you dont like facebook? Fine a billion people do and most people who actually have a life no offense.
Android is all about having the "option" to use your phone the way you like it and what suits your way of things. Stop being so utterly defensive over this.

Please help! Frustrated with messaging.

I have searched high and low for a good means of messaging my friends on their Apple devices. They of course want to use nothing but their default Messenger app, and as much as I like Google Voice, it doesn't support pictures or MMS.
I've tried imo.im on both devices with Google Talk, but it's proven to be a bit of a pain, particularly on the ios side.
I'm now looking at all other options, such as Kakaotalk (though I'm in the USA), Facebook Messenger, Skype, and so on. My Nexus 7 is wifi only, and I do not own or use a cellphone (so TabletTalk and Whatsapp won't work).
Considering all of that, can someone please point me in the right direction of a good app or solution?

I just use Google Voice, all my Ipad friends have no problems with it. You do need to get a GV# for best use.

tcat007 said:
I just use Google Voice, all my Ipad friends have no problems with it. You do need to get a GV# for best use.
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So far that's been the best solution, but I can't send or receive photos, which is something a lot of my friends and family do.

elias4444 said:
So far that's been the best solution, but I can't send or receive photos, which is something a lot of my friends and family do.
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Can you get them to use something like Kik? cross-platform, send receive photos, etc.

mrRobinson said:
Can you get them to use something like Kik? cross-platform, send receive photos, etc.
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Possibly. It was like pulling teeth to get them all to try IMO.im, and because that didn't go well I'm guessing any other client I ask them to install had better be downright amazing. I was looking at Kik, Skype, Kakaotalk, or possibly Facebook Messenger (though I was worried something like Facebook Messenger or Google+ Messenger would make conversations publicly accessible, which annoys me). Any specific opinions on which would be better?

I use Tango to chat with my fiancé who has an iPhone. Video chat works seamlessly as well. That's what I would suggest.
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bellerophon90 said:
I use Tango to chat with my fiancé who has an iPhone. Video chat works seamlessly as well. That's what I would suggest.
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Oh wow... Tango looks pretty awesome! I didn't see it because it's under the Social category of the Play store rather than the Communications category like so many of the others.

Ok, this thread is now officially a Tango vs Kik discussion! I think it's between those two. Any opinions?

elias4444 said:
Ok, this thread is now officially a Tango vs Kik discussion! I think it's between those two. Any opinions?
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Lol... Or not. My wife didn't like Tango. Though a few of my friends and family apparently use google+... Any opinions on using Google+ Messenger?

AW: Please help! Frustrated with messaging.
elias4444 said:
Lol... Or not. My wife didn't like Tango. Though a few of my friends and family apparently use google+... Any opinions on using Google+ Messenger?
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I don't trust G+ messenger anymore.. A lot of messages weren't delivered, and sending pictures is a pain in the *** I'm also searching a good messenger for me and my friends.. But there's none for me ATM. I tested every single one, like, 1000 companies got my contacts and numbers now, but nothing was good. The best, was kik, but, it's so.. Clean, too clean for me.. Sending pictures on kik is awesome and fast, also, it's the fastest messenger, even if you kill the process it still boots fast without any loading screen.. But it has like none features.. Just the standard ones.. Also it has a few.. Idk, weird things like when I receive a message from "mike" only, and open it, it goes to the contact list instead of the conversation... A no go for me.. Kik needs to grow with features, even tiny ones like what I've mentioned above.. But if you can live with a clean one, here you go, dolphinetly kik.
Oh.. I wrote a lot lol ^^
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You could also use Textnow, it gives you a texting number that can recieve pictures, it's also bubble formatted messages like modern messengers (similar to iphone's) . As long as you use your number once in 90 days,it's yours forever. They've also added voip calling, but i think you have to pay for minutes on that.

I use hangouts to chat from iOS to nexus to OS X
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You talk to people who use iOS devices...?
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GroupMe as a Cross Platform Chat
Hi I would suggest GroupMe.
https://groupme.com/
They have apps for almost any platform. You can do simultaneous log in with one account.
One group chat allows up to 50 participants.
Cheers