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DBA "Just Like Glass®" Screen Protector - ZAGG Killer?

DBA is a lesser-known company specializing in phone cases and screen protectors. One of their newer products, the "Just Like Glass®" screen protector promises to be the best screen protector you'll ever have.
Here's what Scott of DBA has to say about the screen protector:
We also had an independent third party test directly against ZAGG and destroyed them.
Testing with Laser Beams for distortion, regular glass of course had 0, Just Like Glass had 11.50, and Zagg had 666.
ZAGG doesn't even claim to increase the break resistance of the glass while ours has tested for an increase of near 40%.
In a wear test equivalent to putting it in and out of your pocket ZAGG showed wear after 345 times and our showed no wear even after 10,000.
ZAGG is more scratch resistant but at the cost of creating the distortion. And the difference isn't that great.
Just like glass screen protectors are stain proof. You can get makeup on the, dirt, oil, dye, etc... and you can wipe it off. ZAGG you can't. I personally tested ours with a black sharpie (not really the best decision looking back on it) and it did come off with a little elbow grease.
As far as being smoother than glass, if you use glass as the baseline Just Like Glass is 20% smoother while ZAGG was -147%. You can really feel it.
Ours don't have the orange peel effect that ZAGG does.
I wouldn't be doing this at all if I didn't have something that I would use and that was better than everything else.
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It's a wet-application (like ZAGG), but the included application kit makes it easy. This protector covers the viewing area, allowing it to work with cases perfectly.
It looks very promising and costs only $13.50 (by comparison, the ZAGG protector is $14.99).
Here's the site: DBA "Just Like Glass®"

I had a heck of a time getting it out of the plastic and in the process it got dimples from trying to pull it out. I contacted them to see if they will get a replacement sent out what a bad experience because they decided to make the plastic bag it comes in too damn tight with no leeway at all. The other con I noticed is it says to use a hard card but it does not come with one so I used the squeeze I have from Skinomi that I used on the Transformer Prime tablet.
Now I do have to admit it does feel like glass and not the soft rubbery feel I am use to with my mothers Skinomi. I always hate how the Skinomi drags on the tablet but this no drag at all. I will let you know how customer support is like after contacting them for a replacement for this one that got dimpled getting it out of the too tight plastic bag. Next time I will use a knife to cut the bag instead of trying to pull it out.
Oh and one more thing no sensitivity decrease at all that I can tell. I will try to get some pictures of it with my mothers camera to post but just to let you know it just a few mm larger than the screen so only covers the screen so great for cases.
I also tested the permanent marker on a piece of the excess plastic that I pulled it from and the marker after drying wiped right off so definitely appears to hold up to the claim of stain proof.

I guarantee you they will have issues calling it glass. You guys have no idea how dumb people are when it comes to these things.

Now I'm curious.

How was the fit on the screen? Full to the edge coverage? Custom cutouts or just a chunk cut out?

I'm interested in this. Anyone else who bought willing to share?

Ok here is the pictures I promised. BTW I was not able to attach the pictures here got a security token was missing error.. any idea why? I was only able to attach picture by uploading from a picture site like Photobucket. Anyways I think I did a pretty good job of these pictures and you will see the 3 blemishes/dimples I caused pulling the protector out of the plastic but it came out better than I thought it would for only my second wet application install.
The fit is just about 1-2 mm larger than the screen so it only covers the screen and really works well with my case. The case is quite narrow for one with a kickstand and been very happy with the $10 purchase for it.

pmoradi2002 said:
I guarantee you they will have issues calling it glass. You guys have no idea how dumb people are when it comes to these things.
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Everyone in every retail setting will tell you customers are dumb. Letting those customers know on a forum is a bad thing for your business.

From the DBA website, it appears that this is a fairly new company; a start-up by one individual. Do we have any independent evaluation of his claims regarding his screen protector and cases?

So this only covers the screen area and not the full frontal glass?

kuratsu said:
So this only covers the screen area and not the full frontal glass?
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Yes just like the pictures show. You can see the edges on the top down view of the phone. It's the area I was worried about and it is not rubbery or tacky like on my mothers Skinomi.

Century21J said:
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I'm guessing that's what the other guy did for spectre?
this looks promising. the thing i hate about wet application is the tacky feel to it. but if this promises to be "just like glass", might be worth trying it out.
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Yeah it's not a bad price and definitely not rubbery/tacky at all. BTW if you have any other questions on it let me know I'll answer to the best of my knowledge this was my first actual review so hope I covered all the bases in what was important to know Hope it was useful to you all.

Just Like Glass Screen Protectors
Hey all,
I'm not really new but I tend to post on other forums. I come here for the good stuff on rooting.
I'm the CEO of DBA Cases, Inc.
I did start the company, however I had several investors. After having an Original Droid, a Bionic, and a Galaxy Nexus I had a very good idea of what people liked.
Personally I hated screen protectors and was not going to sell one until we came up with this. I have it on my phone and love it. It protects against breaks as well - my photographer asked me why I went into making cases so I took the phone out of the case and it squirted out of my hand - hit the wall and then our tile floor. No damage at all to the phone but a very small micro scratch on the Just Like Glass Protector. It probably would have shattered. I've found that the most you can do is give it micro scratches - you can't feel them or see them with the screen on. That's what I got from the fall and it doesn't bother me at all.
I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have.
Scott

molitar said:
Nice idea but I can not buy any case without a kickstand I watch alot of videos on mine.
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I completely understand. I wanted to put a kickstand on the Ultra but it would have been too bulky. Also the cost of adding a kickstand is nearly the same amount as making the mold for the case.
I have a different solution I use.
I'm planning on making my own stand but I have them wherever I may need it.
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While I'm taking pictures...
The Ultra and the Thin Grip
Please ignore the mess behind them.

The case does not look that much skinnier than the Amaze I am using which does have a kickstand.

Promising
Looks pretty cool. How does it keep your screen safe? doest it last well?

SSHGuru said:
How can you tell how thin the cases are from my picture
Stands must be made out of polycarbonate or abs in order to hold the case up. That means some bulk. It doesn't have to be a ton but I looked into a ton of stands and didn't decide to do it.
I wanted to - in fact I was going to make a stand of the same material they use in snap watches would would be made of TPU. Press a button and the stand comes out and can bend.
Problem is that it increases the cost of the case by at least $10,000. In fact I was talking to the CEO of another case company last week and he said it took three molds to make his stand. That's a ton of money.
Since I had a budget I decided to do without - some day.
Both of my cases could not be any thinner than they are.
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I was looking at the depth where the camera lens is. Yes it is a thinner but I was just commenting not that much thinner considering that the Amaze is a bit thicker with the kickstand. I really am impressed how thin the Amaze is with a kickstand as most are bulky considerably with a kickstand. The sides look the same almost in width as yours but the back is probably about twice as thick as yours due to the kickstand. It may not be a very strong kickstand but strong enough for regular use as long as don't drop it with it out as it has the really skinny piece of support plastic that holds it open the other part of the kickstand is quite thick. The stand itself is about 2mm thick and the plastic support is only I would say about 1mm thick.
Now the screwdriver portion was not that impressive as there is no way to tell how much force is being used each time. But the screwdriver and rotary was quite impressive as there was no getting around how hard the screen was being hit by that key. The only thing I notice is the oil from my hands tends to smudge the screen more than the glass but for the protection I can live with that but would be nice if they found a way to eliminate some of the smudges with it. Other than that really happy with the screen and registering on the site for the replacement so I can get this one replaced without the 4 dimple spots. BTW a video installing it would be a good idea I used the shower method in bathroom for dust and lint.

molitar said:
I was looking at the depth where the camera lens is. Yes it is a thinner but I was just commenting not that much thinner considering that the Amaze is a bit thicker with the kickstand. I really am impressed how thin the Amaze is with a kickstand as most are bulky considerably with a kickstand. The sides look the same almost in width as yours but the back is probably about twice as thick as yours due to the kickstand. It may not be a very strong kickstand but strong enough for regular use as long as don't drop it with it out as it has the really skinny piece of support plastic that holds it open the other part of the kickstand is quite thick. The stand itself is about 2mm thick and the plastic support is only I would say about 1mm thick.
Now the screwdriver portion was not that impressive as there is no way to tell how much force is being used each time. But the screwdriver and rotary was quite impressive as there was no getting around how hard the screen was being hit by that key. The only thing I notice is the oil from my hands tends to smudge the screen more than the glass but for the protection I can live with that but would be nice if they found a way to eliminate some of the smudges with it. Other than that really happy with the screen and registering on the site for the replacement so I can get this one replaced without the 4 dimple spots. BTW a video installing it would be a good idea I used the shower method in bathroom for dust and lint.
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We are going to do a video soon for installing but the instructions on the site are the newest versions. Doing it in the shower is the safest method but if I suggest it people probably will freak out about how hard it is when it's really pretty easy.
In the video that was a glass puncher. I know it's hard to tell how hard it's being pushed but it's the same force. One is done on the film which stops the force and one on the glass which does not. The key test was pretty intense and then taking the rotary to it was cool. (if people are wondering it's on the Facebook page).
Samsung with the Galaxy Nexus and the S3 have made great glass that doesn't pick up prints. The one irritation about the protector I have is that it does. Not terribly but I'm used to not worrying about it. We are working on a way to get rid of the micro scratches and the fingerprints. The problem is if we add a layer it makes it feel more plastic and ruins the visibility. It has to be a chemistry solution and I didn't take chemistry in college so I just ask them to try...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151389828738942

I wonder how these screen protectors compare to the ZAGG EXTREME

[REVIEW] Incipio Feather for HTC One

I had this case on the HTC 8X in grey and it was easily one of the best cases I've ever had on any phone. The thinness, feel and texture was great.
As a first case for the HTC One I decided to buy this one but in black instead of grey to match with the light aluminum. It's a great case, it feels great, adds grip and the matte color is awesome. The grip and feeling on the back is superb. However, for that matte look, the black case texture/material is a little different than the one I had on the grey for the 8X.
It attracts finger prints and sweat or grease of your fingers. If it wasn't for this, this case would be perfect, at least for me.
If you don't live on a humid place or don't have have problems with finger prints, get this case by all means. Where I live it's almost 80%-95% humid all year so even if I don't have sweaty hands, it's inevitable that they get moist.
To sum up, it's a wonderful case, despite the problem with the smudges on the back. For that detail alone, it won't be for anyone as it would need to be cleaned two or three times a day to avoid the greasy/moist look on the back.
I do plan to get one in grey as the one I had on the 8X had an even better texture and feel and it didn't attract stains or finger prints at all. AT ALL. It was also a much of a darker grey that it showed on the pictures and I liked it even more when I got it.
For scratch protection, minimum bulk and great look and feel, this is a very good case.
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PS: I have a MEIFENG (Bear Motion) in grey and a black Nillkin case on the way. I will post about them when they get here.

WOW that looks amazing. never heard of this brand case i am going to have to pick one up. thanks for your review!!

My problem with the case is the open top and bottom.

djq said:
WOW that looks amazing. never heard of this brand case i am going to have to pick one up. thanks for your review!!
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You are welcome. Incipio is a known brand but not in all countries, they make cases for almost every smartphone.
OGhoul said:
My problem with the case is the open top and bottom.
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I like the open top and bottom because it adds to the lightweight of the case and allows the natural aluminum color to be displayed prominently. The accessibility of the USB port and the power button is great because there is nothing around them.
This kind of case is only for scratch protection but that's the kind I'm always looking for.

I've also recently purchased this case in black. I LOVE the look of this case and one of the main features I like is that it still manages to maintain the ultra slim look and feel of the HTC One. This case really does fit well and doesn't detract from the stellar good looks of the phone.
One thing I do look for in these slim cases is that if the top edge of the case is slightly raised above the glass. That's a positive for me as I do not use screen protectors. With the top edge of the case raised just a hair it makes it easier to put my phone face down without worrying about scratching the glass. The Incipio Feather does have this very slight edge thankfully.
The only downside so far is that I've had to return my first case due to cracks. The two top corners of the case started to show stress cracks for some reason. In fairness they could have already been there as the first case I bought was already opened at the store and could have been a previous return. I didn't really check it that closely. It could have also been from me being a little aggressive taking the phone out of the case once to show somebody how slim it was. It fits really well so I may have forced it a little too hard.
The store did replace the case as it was previously opened and I checked the new one pretty carefully so no issues so far with the replacement. I'll post back here if any cracks appear again. Just in case you get one, be careful removing or installing the case and you should be fine. If you want the ultimate in good looks, decent grip and scratch protection then you won't go far wrong with this one. If you're one of those folks that likes the big armoured cases then this one isn't for you and nothing to see here.
This case will give you some basic protection while still maintaining the look and feel of the phone. And admit it, the look and feel of the HTC One is at least half or more of the reason you bought this awesome phone in the first place! Cheers!

ajua said:
You are welcome. Incipio is a known brand but not in all countries, they make cases for almost every smartphone.
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thats why i love this forum i learn something i may have never found out about

joudbren said:
I've also recently purchased this case in black. I LOVE the look of this case and one of the main features I like is that it still manages to maintain the ultra slim look and feel of the HTC One. This case really does fit well and doesn't detract from the stellar good looks of the phone.
One thing I do look for in these slim cases is that if the top edge of the case is slightly raised above the glass. That's a positive for me as I do not use screen protectors. With the top edge of the case raised just a hair it makes it easier to put my phone face down without worrying about scratching the glass. The Incipio Feather does have this very slight edge thankfully.
The only downside so far is that I've had to return my first case due to cracks. The two top corners of the case started to show stress cracks for some reason. In fairness they could have already been there as the first case I bought was already opened at the store and could have been a previous return. I didn't really check it that closely. It could have also been from me being a little aggressive taking the phone out of the case once to show somebody how slim it was. It fits really well so I may have forced it a little too hard.
The store did replace the case as it was previously opened and I checked the new one pretty carefully so no issues so far with the replacement. I'll post back here if any cracks appear again. Just in case you get one, be careful removing or installing the case and you should be fine. If you want the ultimate in good looks, decent grip and scratch protection then you won't go far wrong with this one. If you're one of those folks that likes the big armoured cases then this one isn't for you and nothing to see here.
This case will give you some basic protection while still maintaining the look and feel of the phone. And admit it, the look and feel of the HTC One is at least half or more of the reason you bought this awesome phone in the first place! Cheers!
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I'm very careful with my phones and cases. I hope yours was only a detail you didn't see when you bought it.
How are you doing with the finger smudges on the back of this case? It's better than I initially thought but I still have to clean it often.
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thats why i love this forum i learn something i may have never found out about
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Everyone is learning something on this forum all the time

Just something i've noticed since i bought this case. Both the small strips on the sides have cracked. The case is awesome and i really don't care but be for-warned if you are picky.

Tuppidsay said:
Just something i've noticed since i bought this case. Both the small strips on the sides have cracked. The case is awesome and i really don't care but be for-warned if you are picky.
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You can contact Incipio about this. The case comes with a one year warranty and I'm sure they'd be willing to cover that and replace it.:good:

I've bought a few cases for the One and this is definitely my favorite, all the rest I enjoyed but missed the slim line feel. The incipio is the best of both worlds.
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Just ordered one of these.
I'm seeing a lot of reviews on Amazon with the lighter colored ones hazing up flash pictures. Seems to be a common thing with close cutouts for the LED. Black cases are going to be the best to avoid flash interference.

Got mine and yes it's definitely one of the most minmalist cases I've ever used. Be careful with this one as it doesn't afford much in the way of drop protection but you already knew that...
The lip over the screen is a bit shorter than I'd like, still need to be wary of setting it down screen down just in case.
However for those that prefer the naked feel but don't want to be paranoid of scratching the back when sitting on a table, you will like this!
Be wary the plastic cutout piece along the top where the volume rockers and usb charging port are quite thin and can break if stressed too hard when putting the case on and especially taking it off, just take you time and be gentle.
The black finish does show finger grease but is easily cleaned. The incipio dual is the same way. At least it doesn't scratch super easy like some of the smooth and glossy backs.
No case is perfect, that's why I have a drawer full of different cases!

I like the minimalist look, but does anyone know of any similar type 'snap on' cases that has a bigger lip over the corners/edges so that the screen is more protected?
My friend has this case in grey, and hers started peeling/chipping on the back after a few months of use. She contacted Incipio and they'll be sending her a new case which is good...

I picked up a case for my HTC One at best buy. It looks 100% identical except for the logo on the back of the case. Very nice case.

icepixie said:
I like the minimalist look, but does anyone know of any similar type 'snap on' cases that has a bigger lip over the corners/edges so that the screen is more protected?
My friend has this case in grey, and hers started peeling/chipping on the back after a few months of use. She contacted Incipio and they'll be sending her a new case which is good...
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There is the Poetic Palette and Nillkin Hard Case/Shell. I can't say about the front lip for the screen as I don't own them but you can search for pictures and see if it is more prominent than the lip on the feather.

Looks nice and very slim!! :laugh:

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After 2 Years with Iphone .....

Hello,
after more than 2 Years with the IPhone 4 I'll become next week the HTC One Black Vodafone Germany.
Please be so kindly and give me some urgent handling recommendations...do I need a display protection, any cases or whatever....?
Many thanks.....

speedmaster.nl said:
Hello,
after more than 2 Years with the IPhone 4 I'll become next week the HTC One Black Vodafone Germany.
Please be so kindly and give me some urgent handling recommendations...do I need a display protection, any cases or whatever....?
Many thanks.....
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It depends on how careful you are with your phone, but I would definitely recommend a case and screen protector to avoid getting scratches, if nothing else.

tyler.durden said:
It depends on how careful you are with your phone, but I would definitely recommend a case and screen protector to avoid getting scratches, if nothing else.
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I'm very careful but I agree with you for a screen protector and a case, any recommendation for the case, I saw the origin HTC bi color case but some people said it makes scratches....!?!

speedmaster.nl said:
I'm very careful but I agree with you for a screen protector and a case, any recommendation for the case, I saw the origin HTC bi color case but some people said it makes scratches....!?!
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That depends on how much protection you want and if you mind covering up the back of the phone (it's nicer than most phones so some people rather not).
http://www.basalent.com/htc-one-2013-m7-hybri-flex-crystal-clear-pctpu-case-white.html
That's the one I have, and I like it a lot. Protects the sides and the back, without covering the aluminum body.

sohungry said:
That depends on how much protection you want and if you mind covering up the back of the phone (it's nicer than most phones so some people rather not).
http://www.basalent.com/htc-one-2013-m7-hybri-flex-crystal-clear-pctpu-case-white.html
That's the one I have, and I like it a lot. Protects the sides and the back, without covering the aluminum body.
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I never have much issue with screen scratches (usually) but I'd still err on the side of caution and do at the very least a screen protector. I'm going to replace my ZAGG (which I'm hoping is just scratched and not a crack on the screen ) with one of those fancy shmancy glass screen protectors with the rounded edges.

felacio said:
I never have much issue with screen scratches (usually) but I'd still err on the side of caution and do at the very least a screen protector. I'm going to replace my ZAGG (which I'm hoping is just scratched and not a crack on the screen ) with one of those fancy shmancy glass screen protectors with the rounded edges.
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Ha ha, I have one of those fancy shmancy glass screen protectors. It feels nice and looks nice, but there are bubbles in the corners

TPU skin is good enough if you have good reflexes.
While it is falling, you'll probably break its fall by hitting it up. Plus you can find absolutely clear TPU skins.
A case is a must, screen protector is not.

What I do is whenever I get a brand new phone, I always start with a good protective case and a screen protector. After a few months, I gradually get thinner cases and usually end up with those 0.3-0.5mm thin cases that makes the phone feel nice and less bulky. If you plan to rock the phone naked, I'd recommend a phone pouch.
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Thank you very much for the quick response I'm still searching for a good frame or case, is it true that the origin HTC bi color case leaves scratches on the phone I won't believe it .....?! I also hope that the black version is scratch resistant some people said not......I just talked with a Vodafone assistant to change the black against the silver but he said to me that himself have the black one and I looks quite better and after two month usage without any case he have no scratches. I'll take the black one, it comes next week and I will give you a first impression.
Can't await

sauprankul said:
A case is a must...
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WHY?

ro_explorer said:
WHY?
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Its not REALLY a must IMO. The phone actually holds up very well. Yesterday i purposefully put the phone in the same pocket with a bunch of coins and it scratched the aluminum but the scratches wiped right off. If you drop things than that would be a different story at aluminum can easily dent :good:

That was my point also ... it looks a little exaggerated to say that a case is a must.
I intend to use the phone "naked" indoors. Any case will practically ruin the nice feeling of the phone itself. Of course, if you drop it then there are chances to ruin the nice finish.
I'm also using the phone outdoors, fr sports. For that purpose I ordered a trident kraken ams ... I hope it will do the job.
P.S.: I saw that a OEM housing is "only" 50 bucks, free shipping ... I guess I'll buy one just in case .

I would say that if you carry your phone in your pocket a case is a must. I generally like to go case-less (especially with a phone this pretty), but after having my One slip out of my pocket on a couple of occasions, I ended up getting a case (Poetic Atmosphere; the rubberized edges keep it from slipping out). If you intend on getting a pouch of some sort, I think case-free is fine.
Also, I don't have a screen protector and have no scratches, though I tend to be pretty gentle with my phones.

ro_explorer said:
That was my point also ... it looks a little exaggerated to say that a case is a must.
I intend to use the phone "naked" indoors. Any case will practically ruin the nice feeling of the phone itself. Of course, if you drop it then there are chances to ruin the nice finish.
I'm also using the phone outdoors, fr sports. For that purpose I ordered a trident kraken ams ... I hope it will do the job.
P.S.: I saw that a OEM housing is "only" 50 bucks, free shipping ... I guess I'll buy one just in case .
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On Etradesupply, the OEM housing is only like 30 bucks.
I say a TPU case is a must because:
1) You WILL drop it at some point, it's anodized AL, not grippy plastic.
2) The case provides a lip, so if you put your phone face down, the screen won't touch the surface & scratch from w/e dirt is there.
3) The case will also keep the camera lens (or the anodized back) from touching any surfaces.
4) I wear a ring, and if I don't put a case on, the ring scratches ONTO the phone. That's not good.
If you're REALLY careful, then none of these matter. but it's hard to be perfect.
Besides, when I'm in bed, I can just quickly remove the case for a little bit. It feels nice.

This phone is just too good looking to cover up, IMO. I've been going naked since day one I don't have a single scratch on it. The aluminum housing is solid and whatever glass HTC used really resists scratching. My One X screen got covered in microscratches pretty quickly, but I haven't seen anything on this phone.
Just treat it with care and you can forget the case. CNET tried to destroy their test phone and couldn't do it.

I have a double dip case bought at once with the phone. Well .. the feeling simply does not compare with the case on. It just loos cheap and plastic'ish ... is worse than galaxy S4 actually. So, with all the risks involved I will go "naked" while in normal use and I will use the kraken ams for outdoors. That's all ...

I only like corner protection. I don't care about the back.
I used to have a screen protector on this but I don't like it, it doesn't make the display look as nice. I have since taken it off and have not gotten any scratches, not even micro ones. I think this display is more tough than previous GG2 screens. I had the ONE X+ and it scratched easily.
Get one of these: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365102

After 8 hours....
....I'm going crazy with the phone, the App Store is horrible I found nothing what I need, i looking for the 8player and found many sites but not in the App Store, can't connect my iPhone via Bluetooth to import my contacts, also with the ipad...
The phone looks and feels awesome that's for sure but android is horrible, don't know what I should do.....please be so kind and give me recommendations, I won't give it back for the iPhone 5.......so I don't know what I should do!?!?!

speedmaster.nl said:
....I'm going crazy with the phone, the App Store is horrible I found nothing what I need, i looking for the 8player and found many sites but not in the App Store, can't connect my iPhone via Bluetooth to import my contacts, also with the ipad...
The phone looks and feels awesome that's for sure but android is horrible, don't know what I should do.....please be so kind and give me recommendations, I won't give it back for the iPhone 5.......so I don't know what I should do!?!?!
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I respectfully disagree, as will most in this forum that Android is horrible.
Maybe you can post what apps you are looking for and other users can tell you if there are equivalent apps.

mfpreach said:
I respectfully disagree, as will most in this forum that Android is horrible.
Maybe you can post what apps you are looking for and other users can tell you if there are equivalent apps.
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Hello Senior Member,
Thanks so much for your quick response, ok I'm impatient, I found the first app for my marantz av and the buffalo server which works its the bubbleUPnP and it works with the iPhone equivalent not still searching the for the 8player.

Recommendations for a Slim, Soft-Touch TPU Case?

I'm a new Axon 7 owner and am currently searching for a case to use on this phone. The stock transparent case that comes with the phone is great but due to the fact it's a glossy plastic, it attracts a lot of grease from my fingers and feels dirty after a while. I also dislike it because the sweat from my hands will form into condensation on the back of the case. I also have a problem where the jack on my headphones (Audio Technica ATH-M50) is too large to fit in the hole provided.
I decided to purchase the Spigen 'Rugged Armor' case from Amazon after reading a lot of positive comments about it, but I have been left disappointed and debating whether to return it due to the sheer size and thickness that makes handling the phone (Which is already large enough!) incredibly difficult with small hands. The case does not add much friction despite the material used having a rubber-like appearance, and I actually feel more likely to drop the phone as a result of trying to fumble with the added size. As well as this, the cut-out for the headphone jack is still too small even though it's larger than the wider than the one seen on the stock case. I also find it a lot more difficult to access the fingerprint scanner due to the thickness of the case surrounding it. Another problem is that the case is quite difficult to put onto the phone and a lot harder to remove, to the point where it feels like i'm actually going to damage the phone by attempting to do this!
For my previous phone, a Lenovo ZUK Z2, I had a fantastic Nillkin 'Frosted Shield' shell case that was made from a soft-touch rubber-like plastic. It was very slim at about 2mm in thickness at most, and although it didn't offer much in the way of drop-protection, it did have a nice textured back and that increased the grip tremendously. So, despite the case not being able to protect the phone quite as much from being dropped, it didn't matter because the chances of dropping the phone in the first place were a lot less likely. I wondered whether there was something similar for the Axon 7, but instead in a TPU-style with the sealed corners, and the same thickness as the stock case that's included with the phone? Any recommendations would be most appreciated.

This one is the best one, hands down: https://www.amazon.de/ARTILVST-umgebene-Struktur-Oberfl%C3%A4che-Protector/dp/B01MTLLSPA/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1505381744&sr=8-2-fkmr2&keywords=axon+7+slim+case+sand
It is ultra slim and has a very nice feel.

Sui77 said:
This one is the best one, hands down: https://www.amazon.de/ARTILVST-umgebene-Struktur-Oberfl%C3%A4che-Protector/dp/B01MTLLSPA/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1505381744&sr=8-2-fkmr2&keywords=axon+7+slim+case+sand
It is ultra slim and has a very nice feel.
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That looks nice, it's kinda like the old Sandstone Black finish on the OnePlus One. There was one similar to this on Amazon UK but I don't think it had the same texture to it. My only compliant with that one is that it isn't a TPU case which completely covers the corners, but on the other hand the sand texture probably adds a lot of grip to reduce the risk of it being dropped.
I'm currently looking into getting the J&D case from their official website. It's in TPU-form which covers the entire phone (Except from the power/volume buttons!) and has the textured soft-touch back I wanted. The only problem with this one is that the glossy plastic edges look a bit tacky in the pictures, but hopefully it's not as bad in person as it looks on the website. I have a discount code which knocks a subtle 15% off the price listed, so it might be worth a shot.

Looking into this now myself. The stock clear case will go yellow as they all do. Getting cheap see through black case as a temporary till I find a good one. I find the clear one a tad loose at the side.

Sui77 said:
This one is the best one, hands down: https://www.amazon.de/ARTILVST-umgebene-Struktur-Oberfl%C3%A4che-Protector/dp/B01MTLLSPA/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1505381744&sr=8-2-fkmr2&keywords=axon+7+slim+case+sand
It is ultra slim and has a very nice feel.
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Hi there,
Does this case provide good grip?
Thanks for confirming!

joaste said:
Hi there,
Does this case provide good grip?
Thanks for confirming!
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Yes.
In my opinion it's the perfect one.
My buddies ordered it for their Samsung cause of the nice touch.
Color is anthracite, not fancy but decent

Sui77 said:
Yes.
In my opinion it's the perfect one.
My buddies ordered it for their Samsung cause of the nice touch.
Color is anthracite, not fancy but decent
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Thanks. I'm mostly interested in the grip. I had a similar case from Amazon. fr but it was in fact quite slippery (it had a satin feel to it). Had to send it back.
The stock case that came with the Axon 7 is quite grippy but it is slowly going yellow.

joaste said:
Thanks. I'm mostly interested in the grip. I had a similar case from Amazon. fr but it was in fact quite slippery (it had a satin feel to it). Had to send it back.
The stock case that came with the Axon 7 is quite grippy but it is slowly going yellow.
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This one is a different story.
It's the best pick you can get

Sui77 said:
This one is a different story.
It's the best pick you can get
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Thanks. Just ordered it.

joaste said:
Thanks. Just ordered it.
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Hey, have you received the case yet? Just wondering what you thought to it. If either you or @Sui77 could post a picture of it, that would be great as well. I'm still debating whether to choose this or the J&D TPU case that completely conceals the corners. I can't stand using the case which came with the phone much longer, as it's made from glossy plastic and attracts a lot of filth and grease. I imagine the ARTILVST case would be a lot better in this regard.

P650SE said:
Hey, have you received the case yet? Just wondering what you thought to it. If either you or @Sui77 could post a picture of it, that would be great as well. I'm still debating whether to choose this or the J&D TPU case that completely conceals the corners. I can't stand using the case which came with the phone much longer, as it's made from glossy plastic and attracts a lot of filth and grease. I imagine the ARTILVST case would be a lot better in this regard.
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Yes I did. Or is ok, but not as grippy as I was hoping for. The original case provides more grip.
Some pics attached.

joaste said:
Yes I did. Or is ok, but not as grippy as I was hoping for. The original case provides more grip.
Some pics attached.
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Thanks for posting those pictures! That's a shame to hear the grip wasn't as good as expected. I wanted something which provided more grip than the stock case, so maybe this isn't the right one for me. I also live in the United Kingdom and having the case shipped from Germany would make it more expensive in postage costs. It does look like a nice case but I am worried it might not offer much protection if the phone is dropped. I think the J&D case would perhaps be better because it has a soft-touch back and conceals all the corners properly.

I have that same Spigen case as above, an Incipio TPU case in smoked brown, and another thin "shell case". This thin shell offers zero protection in case it is dropped, making using one pointless , IMO.
The Incipio case is OK, but again thin and will show wear very quickly. The Spigen one is my favorite hands down, doesn't add bulk to the phone all ports easily accessable, and the edges offer good grip.

christoophat said:
I have that same Spigen case as above, an Incipio TPU case in smoked brown, and another thin "shell case". This thin shell offers zero protection in case it is dropped, making using one pointless , IMO.
The Incipio case is OK, but again thin and will show wear very quickly. The Spigen one is my favorite hands down, doesn't add bulk to the phone all ports easily accessable, and the edges offer good grip.
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinions regarding the cases available for the Axon 7. It's interesting to hear how you found the Spigen case not to be bulky, because I found the opposite and returned it for that exact reason. I eventually purchased one of the cheap, plastic shell cases from AliExpress similar to the that in the pictures Joaste posted above.
My overall opinion on this case has been positive but it has worn on the edges and there are cracks down all four corners. As you mentioned, a shell case does not offer much drop protection but it's definitely better than not having a case at all and it does improve the grip quite notably. However, I wish it had a textured or 'Sandstone' back to help avoid grease buildup.
I am now looking for another case, but options in the UK are limited since the Axon 7 is not officially sold here.

I've been using my TPU smoke black case with a glass screen protector for a while and enjoyed that. I got fed up with the Poetic Revolution case because of the dry protector built into the front. It allowed dust and stuff in between the screen and protector. Tonight I stripped out the dry protector and put the case on with the glass protector still on the screen. Fits nice. I have a full coverage protector to fit and might see if it will work with the Poetic. Might need to trim the inner edges of the corners near the speaker grilles.

I've been using this Proworx case since right after I got my Axon 7, so for a bit over a year now. I wasn't super impressed when I got it so I figured I'd replace it as soon as I found something better or it wore out, but I'm still using it, which says something about it.
It isn't the slimmest, for sure, but it isn't as bulky as the Otter Boxes and whatnot that everyone with a non-cracked iphone seems to have. It protects very well - TPU around the edges, fully covering the corners (which is a must, in my eyes), polycarbonate back, enough of a lip on top to protect the screen if you set it down face-down, and the cut-outs and buttons are perfect. Good drop protection - I've "thrown" it onto asphalt, tile, and concrete without the phone getting a scratch. Also works well with the glass screen protectors we covered in another thread. Easy enough to put on and take off too, with no chance of the phone just falling out.
Again, not the thinnest, but not huge, and the protection is excellent. Plus they're cheap and come in multiple colors. And as is typical with cheap stuff manufactured in China, I've seen this same case under at least a couple of other brand names, CoverOn for one. For $5-$6 I recommend trying it - I like it enough that I pretty much never think about replacing it, even though it (a clear one) has yellowed a tad. After trying like 10 cases for my G3 and finding faults with each of them, I can say I like this one enough that I'll probably replace it with the same one, eventually.

emepher said:
I've been using this Proworx case since right after I got my Axon 7, so for a bit over a year now. I wasn't super impressed when I got it so I figured I'd replace it as soon as I found something better or it wore out, but I'm still using it, which says something about it.
It isn't the slimmest, for sure, but it isn't as bulky as the Otter Boxes and whatnot that everyone with a non-cracked iphone seems to have. It protects very well - TPU around the edges, fully covering the corners (which is a must, in my eyes), polycarbonate back, enough of a lip on top to protect the screen if you set it down face-down, and the cut-outs and buttons are perfect. Good drop protection - I've "thrown" it onto asphalt, tile, and concrete without the phone getting a scratch. Also works well with the glass screen protectors we covered in another thread. Easy enough to put on and take off too, with no chance of the phone just falling out.
Again, not the thinnest, but not huge, and the protection is excellent. Plus they're cheap and come in multiple colors. And as is typical with cheap stuff manufactured in China, I've seen this same case under at least a couple of other brand names, CoverOn for one. For $5-$6 I recommend trying it - I like it enough that I pretty much never think about replacing it, even though it (a clear one) has yellowed a tad. After trying like 10 cases for my G3 and finding faults with each of them, I can say I like this one enough that I'll probably replace it with the same one, eventually.
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I decided to order one of these in black to try out. Have been quite happy with my Spigen, but after installing this Proworx case yesterday, I think I am falling in love. Seems to offer enough protection, fits & looks nice, AND I kind of like how the buttons are a bit harder to push in, which actually prevents me from squeezing open the screen every time I try to pick it up. :good:

RobboW said:
I've been using my TPU smoke black case with a glass screen protector for a while and enjoyed that. I got fed up with the Poetic Revolution case because of the dry protector built into the front. It allowed dust and stuff in between the screen and protector. Tonight I stripped out the dry protector and put the case on with the glass protector still on the screen. Fits nice. I have a full coverage protector to fit and might see if it will work with the Poetic. Might need to trim the inner edges of the corners near the speaker grilles.
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Quoting myself here.
Today I fitted the full coverage protector to my Axon 7 and it fits into the Poetic Revolution case nicely! Glad I stripped out the dry protectors in the Poetic cases. I've also now fitted a plastic protector over the glass one as a quick and easy tear off to sacrifice for wear and tear but the glass one makes the front of the phone flat. Even with two stacked protectors, touch works perfectly.
The picture is slightly misleading as the black section also covers the capacitive buttons so there's no indicator of position, but not being backlit anyway, it makes little difference.
Here's a quicky bunch of pics. I have a soft TPU smoky case, black Poetic Revolution and a blue/grey Poetic Revolution which can be mix and matched. Got a couple of little bubbles under the plastic protector and will fix that later, or just remove it. Looks good with just the full coverage glass one.

If anyone is looking for a slim case I just picked up a Bear Motion Sand from eBay. Best case I've had so far for my A7 and I've tried quite a few. Feels like my OPO did.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J9Y5CQ...d_r=3683683e-ab8d-11e8-96dd-777fa7fb2507&th=1
Been using this one for over 6 months now with out any issues , not as bulky as it looks and the stand is useful . I also have a full body clear skin from clear-coat that fits superbly, clear-coat has various outlets through the UK and installs as you wait , is a bit pricey at £30 for the full skin .
I work in the building trade so need it well protected .

Fully body white cases for pixel 3 xl. Why are there so few options?

Only fully body white case on the market is the Rhinoshield solidsuit. Everything else white are minimalist hard shell cases.
Took my old Spigen liquid clear tpu case and spray painted it white. Turned out way better than I thought.
https://imgur.com/a/M5jlxLx

Momotani-Hitoshi said:
Only fully body white case on the market is the Rhinoshield solidsuit. Everything else white are minimalist hard shell cases.
Took my old Spigen liquid clear tpu case and spray painted it white. Turned out way better than I thought.
https://imgur.com/a/M5jlxLx
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I did a simple google search and came up with a bunch of them, not sure what you're talking about:
https://www.google.com/search?q=white+bodyshield+cases+pixel+3+xl
You can even get one with built in lights:
https://lumee.com/products/lumee-duo-google-pixel-3xl-case

sanjsrik said:
I did a simple google search and came up with a bunch of them, not sure what you're talking about:
https://www.google.com/search?q=white+bodyshield+cases+pixel+3+xl
You can even get one with built in lights:
https://lumee.com/products/lumee-duo-google-pixel-3xl-case
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https://lumee.com/products/lumee-duo-google-pixel-3xl-case
Not exactly white, more like marble, and really $70 USD?
https://www.google.com/search?q=white+bodyshield+cases+pixel+3+xl
first product search result link is not white. It is transparent case with white flower artwork
2nd result hit Not really white. They are black case with printed decals slapped on the back
skim through more search hits, there are very few if not only 1-2. Wouldn't call that a "bunch". I've done the search many times, there are not many to out there on the market for pixel 3 xl. I've searched through amazon, ebay, aliexpress.
Challenge you to link me 5-10 on amazon.com that is full body pure white like the Rhinoshield solid suit . They are like the only one readily available. Peelcase has a kind of white one made of recycled stuff, but not really true white. Looks like recycled paper.

As a white-case connoisseur, my educated guess, after owning a billion of them for a billion phones, is I suspect they're not the favorite to produce for manufactures. Rubber and TPU, favorite materials for phone cases, stain VERY easily, and white ones turn irreversibly blue from blue jeans after only a couple days. They probably get a lot of customer complaints/returns. I pretty much gave up on finding nice solid-white cases. Either they stain RAPIDLY, or are made of very hard materials which are either bulky as hell or thin with terrible coverage (insufficient lip to set the phone face down without the screen touching the surface).

Otterbox is the one!!!

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As a white-case connoisseur, my educated guess, after owning a billion of them for a billion phones, is I suspect they're not the favorite to produce for manufactures. Rubber and TPU, favorite materials for phone cases, stain VERY easily, and white ones turn irreversibly blue from blue jeans after only a couple days. They probably get a lot of customer complaints/returns. I pretty much gave up on finding nice solid-white cases. Either they stain RAPIDLY, or are made of very hard materials which are either bulky as hell or thin with terrible coverage (insufficient lip to set the phone face down without the screen touching the surface).
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07R28S854
Found one. I like it so far. We will see how easily it discolors or stain. https://imgur.com/a/AHRt4VC

Momotani-Hitoshi said:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07R28S854
Found one. I like it so far. We will see how easily it discolors or stain. https://imgur.com/a/AHRt4VC
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Does if feel "sticky" like some silicon cases do? Is there a good lip preventing the screen from touching a surface?
TIA

mgp53 said:
Does if feel "sticky" like some silicon cases do? Is there a good lip preventing the screen from touching a surface?
TIA
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It isn't sticky. Actually kind of slippery. Feels more like a soft touch plastic. Lip is minimal. Description says 1.2mm, but if you put a TGSP it might be flush.

Momotani-Hitoshi said:
It isn't sticky. Actually kind of slippery. Feels more like a soft touch plastic. Lip is minimal. Description says 1.2mm, but if you put a TGSP it might be flush.
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Thanks, the wife really prefers a white case. Still looking too.

mgp53 said:
Thanks, the wife really prefers a white case. Still looking too.
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https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/183531573765
It's not full body had a opening at the bottom but pretty dam close and good looking

razrlover said:
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/183531573765
It's not full body had a opening at the bottom but pretty dam close and good looking
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those are half price on Ali, and the bottom opening has always been sharp for me. to be fair, i haven't used one since probably the og pixel, but I'd had may previously and they all were sharp against my pinky

These cases are amazing, and the protection is good, consider buying a better screen protector though, you get a free one, and you can tell its free, but its good until you can buy more expensive screen protector. Not white though, but i bet there will be.
https://www.mobilefun.co.uk/by-brand/zizo

There was a great Speck brand case few years ago, for like the iPhone 7 or something, it was White, with black little corners, looked super cool, but never saw it again for any other phone.
https://www.speckproducts.com/apple...olor=799865728&cgidmaster=sptyp-st850#start=5
I would like this for my Pixel 3 XL