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Once on 2.2, no root....

What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.

You have to wait until the guys here find a way for p eople to root once they have 2.2 . That could take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks

Most likely you are NOT going to be able to root since you ran the OTA update for 2.2....
That is why you should read what you are flashing and know the consequences prior to doing so. Every thread that contained the download for the 2.2 leak said that it will make you lose root and the ability ( for now ) to gain root status.
You need to wait until one of the geniuses figure out a way to do it.
Sorry about your luck.

The best way is toast method...
Good luck!
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UND3RTAK3R said:
The best way is toast method...you can email me if you have any problems [email protected]
Good luck!
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Not gonna work since he used the 2.2 update man.

EVOme said:
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
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1. wrong forum, should be in Q&A
2. if you did the manual update from Sprint, you will have to wait until the devs here create a root method for stock 2.2 is developed. Any existing root method will not work at all.

EVOme said:
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
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You installed the plain OTA update? The one that says "not rooted yet" on the thread title?
For each new update, HTC tries to protect its software from being rooted. The last update required users to exploit a Flash Lite vulnerability and took a while. You will probably have to wait a long time before you can root this, since it doesn't have Flash Lite.
For future reference, root first THEN update to a rooted rom released by our devs. You can't just install Ava's rom on top of stock 2.2, it prevents you from doing so.

I'm sorry but HOW MANY posts were there saying if you want to keep root, DO NOT INSTALL THE UPDATE?? Ugh...
And yes I know this isn't constructive but sometimes people just need a slap on the back if the head.
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I'm in the same boat. After trying hard to resist the urge, I gave in and installed the leak. After finding the rooted version, I tried to use the 1.47 RUU to go back but it error-ed out. I'm so bummed I can't go back. Oh well; I knew the risk I was taking though so I guess I have to live with it...

Hours my my day wasted....HOURS!!!
Where's my AR-15

Wow, just wow.

I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?

Here we go again
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bludragon742 said:
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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By digging thru it and finding an exploit.
Which will most likely happen for the 2.2 update as well, just not as of yet.

bludragon742 said:
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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With a ROM, you can run through the zip file and essentially take out the parts that would remove root and modify as you see fit to put on an already rooted device -- the device isn't running all the security checks on the ROM, since it's already been rooted to remove those. Much easier, almost trivial.
If you have a non-rooted device, though, you have to find a way to get the device, not the ROM, rooted. The device isn't going to take an unofficial ROM. Big difference, since you have to exploit something already on the device somehow. With the last OTA update, it was Flash Lite that could be exploited for root access to the device. With this one, no one has found a method to root the device once the OTA has been applied (and probably won't really try that hard until the official version is released, in case it closes any exploits that are in the version floating around now).

xeno314 said:
With a ROM, you can run through the zip file and essentially take out the parts that would remove root and modify as you see fit to put on an already rooted device -- the device isn't running all the security checks on the ROM, since it's already been rooted to remove those. Much easier, almost trivial.
If you have a non-rooted device, though, you have to find a way to get the device, not the ROM, rooted. The device isn't going to take an unofficial ROM. Big difference, since you have to exploit something already on the device somehow. With the last OTA update, it was Flash Lite that could be exploited for root access to the device. With this one, no one has found a method to root the device once the OTA has been applied (and probably won't really try that hard until the official version is released, in case it closes any exploits that are in the version floating around now).
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Beat me to it and said it better.

bludragon742 said:
I'm in the same boat. After trying hard to resist the urge, I gave in and installed the leak. After finding the rooted version, I tried to use the 1.47 RUU to go back but it error-ed out. I'm so bummed I can't go back. Oh well; I knew the risk I was taking though so I guess I have to live with it...
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I have no idea how it was "hard to resist" when AVA's rooted version showed up at 5:30pm and netarchy's showed up around 9pm. They showed up before any official sprint OTA. Lets also not forget the hundreds of posts warning people that this would happen.
bludragon742 said:
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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The "rooting method" allows you to get into restricted areas of the phone to install stuff. The act of rooting is breaking into the phone itself, not into the rom. The rom itself is fully accessable and can be hacked up, its just getting it onto the phone is the hard part.
Essentially your phone, stock, is a box that's locked from the inside. For older versions people figured out how to unlock it, so that you can put any hacked up rom onto it. The new OTA, no one knows how to get in yet.
Don't know if that makes sense. It's pretty easy to understand if you understand OS permissions.
EDIT: what the other guy said.

bludragon742 said:
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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Because someone takes the CONTENT of the update, and applies it piece-by-piece to an already rooted image, ignoring the bits that replace HBOOT and etc.

Mad06STi said:
I have no idea how it was "hard to resist" when AVA's rooted version showed up at 5:30pm and netarchy's showed up around 9pm. .
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I'll tell you why. The thread gets to 200 pages. There are people saying it works, sucks, bricks, awesome, hate it, stay away, success, etc. After reading 40 pages of it you have no idea up from down. Speaking from someone that is not familiar with Android rooting. It's frustrating. Then you go to one of the other 50 threads and it's all the same.
I never saw anywhere that if I installed the leak i'd be screwed. I'm fine with that though. I have 2.2 and can wait. Just annoyed i've spent hours of my day on this.

This thread was a funny read.
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Will there be an effort to Root HTC 2.2?

[Q] How to Root Evo 3.26.651.3
Hi,
I'm stuck on the leaked Froyo update, had tried simple root and unrevoked and not luck, does anybody knows how to root HTC EVo 4G Froyo 2.2
software version 3.26.651.3 (beginer here)

Not possible on that version yet.

for now their is nothing you can do untill either HTC sends an OTA update to allow you to get the newest OTS Update or untill someone figures out a new root method for 2.2

God forbid a question go in the Q&A Forum.

Maybe you can flash a stock previous OTA (the 1.76 one) then try simple root? Maybe you can install 2.2 rooted after that?

There is another forum post that says you can go to the sprint store and they will downgrade you to 1.47 as long as you have .3. I am going to go try to do this today and then try to root after.

Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update.

texasez said:
Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update.
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It is not a question on will there be people trying to do this. I am sure a lot of the devs are. The question is will they be able to find an exploit to be able to.

dwertz said:
It is not a question on will there be people trying to do this. I am sure a lot of the devs are. The question is will they be able to find an exploit to be able to.
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There just does not seem to be any urgency to root Froyo. I see not mention in any of the forums I monitor.

texasez said:
Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update.
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????????????????????? uh What?
Q - Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
A - Of Course... really doesn't even need to be asked
Q - I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
A - Everyone that wanted to be rooted, were rooted, and probably upgraded to the rooted .3 pre-release and then upgraded to the rooted .6 final release
Q - I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update
A- What? You can root without flashing a rom... Why? Many reasons of which one is to be able to tether without paying Sprint a stupid fee for using the wifi router which doesn't need a custom rom.
But I don't quite know what you mean by "all" the roms had problems.... Simply not true, Most of the roms are and have been nothing more than stock roms with root access, with Sprint crap removed or mabey small changes in icons, lock screens, or rosies. The only time people start having issues in when you get into overclocking and changing kernels for reasons like higher fps's or 5 point multitouch. I have been running 2.1 roms with nothing broken or not working and 2.2 roms (.3 and .6) with everything working fine(4g, wifi tether, fps fix, overclocked, 5 point multitouch, etc)
The only people at this point that are waiting for a 2.2 root are the people that were too stupid impatient to wait 2 hrs before the .3 was rooted and reverted to stock to flash the pre-release 2.2 or people that updated first before realizing how much nicer it is to have a rooted phone.
Everyday new EVO owners are bringing there new phones home by the thousands and getting online trying to see how they can get root. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that the devs here have found a way to root a new 2.2 EVO before you even read this.

The Unrevoked team is working on it, but they don't have real root in the first place.

Riptide9 said:
????????????????????? uh What?
Q - Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
A - Of Course... really doesn't even need to be asked
Q - I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
A - Everyone that wanted to be rooted, were rooted, and probably upgraded to the rooted .3 pre-release and then upgraded to the rooted .6 final release
Q - I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update
A- What? You can root without flashing a rom... Why? Many reasons of which one is to be able to tether without paying Sprint a stupid fee for using the wifi router which doesn't need a custom rom.
But I don't quite know what you mean by "all" the roms had problems.... Simply not true.........
.....Everyday new EVO owners are bringing there new phones home by the thousands and getting online trying to see how they can get root. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that the devs here have found a way to root a new 2.2 EVO before you even read this.
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+1 Exactly

Its only been out for 5 days calm down. Im pretty sure the devs chat with each other through im and what not. as well i rather see them working on a root process then posting on here. if you want root then you should of not updated if you had no choice because you got the phone after the 31st - 1st then your sol right now

Two wrongs don't make a right....
OP....be patient young grasshopper....

Don't see no reason why not. It's an open source OS it's only a matter of time for a dev to find a way. Let's just hope for all of your guys that are not rooted or decided to un root to get 2.2, it's sooner rather than later.
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I am willing to test it when it come out. It's only a phone.

I noticed something interesting when I stopped by the Sprint store yesterday.
There was an older gentleman there purchasing an Evo. I felt a little sad because I knew that poor phone would never get hax'd. The manager instructed the sales person to charge the phone and make sure to run the update after activation.
My guess is that the majority of Evos from this point on will come with Froyo, so I'm sure there will be an effort to root.

I would like to see a one step method to root that has a hundred pages of "Thank You" rather that the hundred pages of problems and explanations I see now.

texasez said:
I would like to see a one step method to root that has a hundred pages of "Thank You" rather that the hundred pages of problems and explanations I see now.
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then do it yourself.

Did it work? Did they downgrade you?

[Q] Incredible 2, S-off with no CWM, temp root for SU and Busybox

Hello,
I was having a lot of trouble getting s-off for my Incredible 2, I guess because of my Windows 7 64bit operating system. I eventually got it done on a desktop with vista. however, that computer had no internet access so it didnt automatically install CWM. I havent had access to that computer for a while, so iwasnt able to flash CWM on my phone.
Today I tried doing the old temp root method, and once that was done, I installed superuser and busybox from the android market. now, without a new rom, CWM, new kernel, etc, my phone seems to be maintaining root access even after reboots.
Is there anything wrong with this picture? lol... When I was researching, it seemed that most places said you can't have root without installing a rom that has it. But it seems to be sticking without installing a rom. Is there any downsides to doing it this way?
Thank you anyone for your help, and I apologize if this is in the forums somewhere, but I did do a legitimate search and came up blank.

What method did you use and did you have froyo or ginger at the time?
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Why posting in the wrong forum .
Thread moved.

i used the alpharev x method, starting with froyo, I've never had ginger on my phone.

sorry about that =/ i thought since it was root/rom related it might go in the other forum.

oh, and for the temp root portion after s-off, i used this method--
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039015

I think there may b a problem, similar to people who used z4 root on other phones just to gain access to root apps without caring about custom roms and such. I'm afraid u will try to get pushed new ota updates, since ur still running completely stock, now I don't think that will take away your s off because of the high h boot version you now have, but it will take away your root, and I don't know how big of a deal that would b to you, but I would install clockwork recovery to prevent this. My brother had Droid x with z4 root, he left his phone alone for a while, and he came back to have gingerbread, it updated by itself cause he was completely stock with no recovery, just had Su permissions through z4, so now he's screwed and can't get root, or couldn't last time I checked. I have not even read how to install clockwork manually, I did it with the alpharevx tool, so I don't know of this would be a prob or not if u got updated to the ota gingerbread, hope this helps and makes sense, it does to me but that's a different story lol.
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lol!! it makes sense to me too.
I didn't know that phones could auto update with OTA's without user consent, pressing an "okay" button type of thing. Dammit. is there any point to having S-OFF without rooting?
installing CWM manually isn't exactly a problem, I just gotta wait til i get access to a non windows 7 64 bit computer again. hopefully that opportunity comes before an OTA is pushed to my phone.
Thank you for your input!
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I think there may b a problem, similar to people who used z4 root on other phones just to gain access to root apps without caring about custom roms and such. I'm afraid u will try to get pushed new ota updates, since ur still running completely stock, now I don't think that will take away your s off because of the high h boot version you now have, but it will take away your root, and I don't know how big of a deal that would b to you, but I would install clockwork recovery to prevent this. My brother had Droid x with z4 root, he left his phone alone for a while, and he came back to have gingerbread, it updated by itself cause he was completely stock with no recovery, just had Su permissions through z4, so now he's screwed and can't get root, or couldn't last time I checked. I have not even read how to install clockwork manually, I did it with the alpharevx tool, so I don't know of this would be a prob or not if u got updated to the ota gingerbread, hope this helps and makes sense, it does to me but that's a different story lol.
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I couldn't see an advantage to just being s off, unless it allows u to use different sim cards, but I don't know, I'm no expert. The only thing I can think of is maybe it will leave the possibility of rooting open to u at a later time, but I don't know. I like my set up, its pretty much stock with some of the Verizon crap removed but I have root and can use rooted apps.
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thanks again for the input. i'll probably end up with that debloated type of rom too.

It depends on what you want. I'd say no problem if all you want is the root access.

[Q] some bootloader / root questions

ok I'm not new to rooting and roming I'm coming off a rooted and Romed atrix 4g. My question is I was going to root my att s3 with the s3 root tool kit http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746665 which allows you to root and flash a custom recovery. but what I didn't see is a way to unlock the bootloader. I didn't know if that would be required, to flash a custom rom, I know I had to do that with my atrix. If so does anyone have any easy link for unlocking the bootloader. also I had heard that some people have had issues after root connecting to att lte. I wouldn't think it would matter since the apn's wouldn't change. thanks ahead of time for any help, and call me a noob if you want, I could care less.

Don't use that as I believe it will trip your flash counter.
Use the no trip root guide located in the android development section.
Also, you do not have to unlock the bootloader, it is already unlocked, you just have to get rooted by flashing with Odin and then install a recovery. I recommend TWRP which can be easily installed through goo manager once you are rooted.
The issues with LTE are not associated with rooting, but rather with flashing AOSP based ROMs but I do believe they have fixed most or all of those issues.
Lastly, I too cane from an Atrix and the S3 is a bazillion times better. I reccommend Triune 2 for a custom ICS ROM (avoid touchwiz JB ROMs for now) and Task650's AOKP ROM. Also, ktoonsez has the best kernel available with up to a 2.1GHz oc.
Cheers, PM me fellow atrix user if you need any other assistance.
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yea i saw the other method too. maybe I'll go that way. i wasn't to worried about the whole tripping the flash counter. since it looks like chainfire has a fix. although it sounded like that could be more risky than rooting. thanks for the answer about the bootloader and the lte issues. actually still on the atrix for the moment running nuetrino bc the first night i had the s3 i dropped it and completely cracked the screen. was a little disappointed since i have dropped my atrix countless times and never had an issue. oh well thanks for in store warranties.

Yeah, I've seen some people have had issues using the Triangle Away app, so it's better to just not trip the counter to begin with.
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[Q] Flashing ROMs looks cool! But.. what about my carrier?

I'll get this out of the way first, I'm pretty new to rooting and flashing ROMs. The only thing I've ever rooted before was a free Kindle Fire I got from Amazon, and got some version of Android on it a looong time ago. Now I want to get LiquidSmooth on my Galaxy S3 i747. I'm completely willing to follow all noob guides by myself namely http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802160]this one.
HOWEVER, since this is a phone from AT&T with a data plan, texting, and calling, and not some free Kindle with none of that, I'm extremely paranoid to do anything risking losing all these features. There's really no clear indication anywhere that this will or won't happen, since I assume this is either just extremely common knowledge, and most trouble shooting is about screwing up in general or bricking.

Rooting and flashing doesn't affect any if those things.
Think of it as a new operating system for your computer. New look, new feel same basic functions.
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EGSuda said:
I'll get this out of the way first, I'm pretty new to rooting and flashing ROMs. The only thing I've ever rooted before was a free Kindle Fire I got from Amazon, and got some version of Android on it a looong time ago. Now I want to get LiquidSmooth on my Galaxy S3 i747. I'm completely willing to follow all noob guides by myself namely http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802160]this one.
HOWEVER, since this is a phone from AT&T with a data plan, texting, and calling, and not some free Kindle with none of that, I'm extremely paranoid to do anything risking losing all these features. There's really no clear indication anywhere that this will or won't happen, since I assume this is either just extremely common knowledge, and most trouble shooting is about screwing up in general or bricking.
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I have the same phone and there are a few things that are good to know that will help you and possibly keep you from making a bad choice.
Have you accepted the 4.3 OTA update from AT&T on the unit or...? If you have, then you have upgraded to a specific bootloader/modem and can no longer downgrade those items without causing problems.
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If you took the 4.3 OTA AT&T ROM update, your phone has the 4.3 mjb bootloader.
To confirm which bootloader is on your phone, boot into download mode and let us know what it says on your screen.
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If you did not take the update then you dont have these new items and your options are more open i guess.
First, your going to need to root your phone, without tripping the flash counter. There are lots of guides on how to do this, and it's pretty simple.
Secondly you will need to install a custom recovery such as ClockWorkMod or TWRP. I used CWM on my i747 and installed it using "ROM Manager" from the Play Store. It was amazingly simple and did the entire process for me.
Third you will need to choose the ROM you would like to try. There are a few different kinds, so happy hunting. I chose S3Rx and I love it. It's packed full of goodies and it seems that the Dev seems pretty good at answering any posts on his thread in this forum about the ROM.
Before you do any of that, you should verify what version your are running right now so you know what bootloader/modem you have, then go from there.
I just got back into this stuff myself and I love this phone. Good luck.

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Ed Murray said:
I have the same phone and there are a few things that are good to know that will help you and possibly keep you from making a bad choice.
Have you accepted the 4.3 OTA update from AT&T on the unit or...? If you have, then you have upgraded to a specific bootloader/modem and can no longer downgrade those items without causing problems.
If you did not take the update then you dont have these new items and your options are more open i guess.
First, your going to need to root your phone, without tripping the flash counter. There are lots of guides on how to do this, and it's pretty simple.
Secondly you will need to install a custom recovery such as ClockWorkMod or TWRP. I used CWM on my i747 and installed it using "ROM Manager" from the Play Store. It was amazingly simple and did the entire process for me.
Third you will need to choose the ROM you would like to try. There are a few different kinds, so happy hunting. I chose S3Rx and I love it. It's packed full of goodies and it seems that the Dev seems pretty good at answering any posts on his thread in this forum about the ROM.
Before you do any of that, you should verify what version your are running right now so you know what bootloader/modem you have, then go from there.
I just got back into this stuff myself and I love this phone. Good luck.
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I had already flashed my phone after getting the verification from the last user. I was running 4.3, and am now running LiquidSmooth 3.0 Kitkat 4.4.2 now, with pretty much no problems at all. But thank you for your help.