Image sense chip - HTC One X

what other camera app uses the image sense chip in our HOX

only the sense one uses it as far as I know, as the drivers to use it are closed source.

are there news about the chip?
the new focal application of cyanogenmod work whit this chip?

None. HTC are a pain in the arse
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danyshotbang said:
what other camera app uses the image sense chip in our HOX
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Drefsab said:
only the sense one uses it as far as I know, as the drivers to use it are closed source.
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The HTC Imagechip is used exclusive by the Sense camera, which is only compatible within the Sense framework.
There is NO camera for AOSP that makes use of it in any fashion.

Tigerlight said:
The HTC Imagechip is used exclusive by the Sense camera, which is only compatible within the Sense framework.
There is NO camera for AOSP that makes use of it in any fashion.
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Ok then my next phone will be the nexus.
if a company makes chips without source code then it is a thief

MT88 said:
Ok then my next phone will be the nexus.
if a company makes chips without source code then it is a thief
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Only android is open source, sense is HTC's work and is not released under the open source licence.
They haven't stole anything, what they are doing is stopping people from steal their work.
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treebill said:
Only android is open source, sense is HTC's work and is not released under the open source licence.
They haven't stole anything, what they are doing is stopping people from steal their work.
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Much like ALL of the SoC developers who actually build Android for our devices using closed-source, obfuscated hardware interfaces.
Qualcomm is closed-source. NVIDIA is closed-source. Samsung release parts of it, I believe.
Every company protects their work in one form or another. Can't say I have a problem with it.

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Firefox OS

Mozilla just released nightlies for their boot2gecko operating system http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/b2g/nightly/latest-mozilla-central/ would any of the amazing developers on the One X forum be able to port it?
sounds interesting, would love to test once it's ported over to our lovely phone.
invisibleelvis said:
Mozilla just released nightlies for their boot2gecko operating system http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/b2g/nightly/latest-mozilla-central/ would any of the amazing developers on the One X forum be able to port it?
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It's a totally different OS. No chance would we ever see it on our One X. It's like asking for a Rom with WinMo on it - never going to happen!
What about with emulators?
Ummmm are you sure
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It's a totally different OS. No chance would we ever see it on our One X. It's like asking for a Rom with WinMo on it - never going to happen!
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Really, So what obsticles does the One X face it can't overcome that SGS2 could? As the earlier version of Firefox OS, Boot2geko was ported over to the SGS2 (and a few others android phones as well I believe)
Forgive my ignorance but why????
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Really, So what obsticles does the One X face it can't overcome that SGS2 could? As the earlier version of Firefox OS, Boot2geko was ported over to the SGS2 (and a few others android phones as well I believe)
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Pretty sure that requires s-off.
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eagerly waiting to try this one out..someday?
still waiting for this one
i gathered this is opensourced(coming from mozilla), so the same people who ports aosp to htconeX can really do their magic on this one.
or maybe thats just wishful thinking of me.
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It's a totally different OS. No chance would we ever see it on our One X. It's like asking for a Rom with WinMo on it - never going to happen!
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Thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard... Look at the HD2. Developers here are capable of doing anything.
Tom_H_ said:
Thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard... Look at the HD2. Developers here are capable of doing anything.
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I believe this is because the software of the HD2 is completely open. This enables developers to port android, meego, windows phone, and recently even Windows RT on it.
Developers can only do so much is the source isn't fully open.
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Thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard... Look at the HD2. Developers here are capable of doing anything.
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Now thats the attitude people like to see here.
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Thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard... Look at the HD2. Developers here are capable of doing anything.
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HD2 has S-Off, which means it's possible to change every partition, including how the OS boots. In case you haven't noticed, we don't have access to all of our partitions because we don't have S-Off. Given that everybody apart from you is so dumb, can you tell us how to boot arbitrary OSs?
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Thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard... Look at the HD2. Developers here are capable of doing anything.
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Came here to say this... HD2 has winmo 6.5, 7 and android
Please don't forget that HOX is nvidia tegra 3 device, and it is too hard to port drivers to it, don't forget that ubuntu touch didn't even fully worked on box devices.
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Please don't forget that HOX is nvidia tegra 3 device, and it is too hard to port drivers to it, don't forget that ubuntu touch didn't even fully worked on box devices.
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Point is it did work, at leaste in part.
If there was a team of devs on it, it could happen problem is the amount of effort it would take.
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treebill said:
Point is it did work, at leaste in part.
If there was a team of devs on it, it could happen problem is the amount of effort it would take.
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It just booted with plenty of bugs and fcs, and all beta releases of ubuntu touch are discontinued, and there is a reason for that.
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It just booted with plenty of bugs and fcs, and all beta releases of ubuntu touch are discontinued, and there is a reason for that.
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Not enough interest to port it
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Not enough interest to port it
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But interesting more than Firefox OS
It might be possible but it would need to much hard work and effort to do so, since we are not only S-ON but Tegra 3, to witch it's very hard to port to...
It's just wouldn't pay off, as there might be like 100 people, like you, who would even consider installing Firefox OS OR any other non-android OS, since it is hard to do to a normal user as well...

[DEV] Open webOS for One X

Let's port the webOS(http://www.openwebosproject.org/) to One X. I'm keeping a bounty of $100 for any developer who is able to make a fully functional port.
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Let's port the webOS(http://www.openwebosproject.org/) to One X. I'm keeping a bounty of $100 for any developer who is able to make a fully functional port.
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An additional $100 here.
this would be a great idea, but would it be doable?
wouldn't it be easier to port some of it's features, if it is, and improve on current htc one x android roms, making them even better and maybe ppossibly setting a new standard?
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this would be a great idea, but would it be doable?
wouldn't it be easier to port some of it's features, if it is, and improve on current htc one x android roms, making them even better and maybe ppossibly setting a new standard?
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It is doable. You can't port specific apps or features as it is a different platform.
massalami said:
this would be a great idea, but would it be doable?
wouldn't it be easier to port some of it's features, if it is, and improve on current htc one x android roms, making them even better and maybe ppossibly setting a new standard?
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Why can't there be both if it can be done? I would like to see both a standalone port and a features added port. That would be awesome, if it is doable.
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So are any developer interested? I would love to see the webOS on HOX.
Source Code
Source code is out now. Someone please help the community
BUMP to resurrect this thread.
I used to own a Palm Pre, and i can say without a doubt, that WebOS was smoothest and most intuative OS i've ever used..the ONLY thing that held WebOS down was the horrid hardware Palm and HP put out....
Please someone, I can't pledge a whole 100, but i will certainly pledge $40....it ain't much, but if you add up what the others say, it will get you pretty damn close to a new nexus 7....and than we could beg the great dev who does it to port it to the Nexus 7...
Come on XDA, lets do this...well one of you great devs do it!! lol....i'm a great tester flasher, but i'm no dev and i don't have the hardware to build it out...
I had the Palm Pre 1 and still have the Pre 3. They're great and easy to use devices. WebOs has so much potential, it shouldn't be given up that easy! It's so innovative and full of interesting functions. I would love to see a port to the One X!!
Some of it's benefits:
really fast!!
easy to use
a great solution for "multitasking" (some say it's a useless gimmick, but they should take a look how other OS's solved this problem (!...))
gorgeous interface!
ability to play .apk's (ACL)
Opensource
and far more things I can't remember right now
To compare how good the software architecture of WebOs is, take a look at the Moto Droid (Milestone 1) and the Palm Pre. While the Droid is very laggy on Eclaire or even Froyo, the Palm Pre with the same processor as the Droid runs very very fast and smooth. Even with WebOs 2.1, which actually hasn't been released for the Pre. There's a port of WebOs 2.1 for the Pre and even then it's still so smooth and fast. Flash contents on websites are running very fast, but when I take a look at my Droid using flash contents on websites...I can count the frames...
I still belive in WebOs, because it's, in my opinion, a great OS!!
Add additional 50$
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With the lack of proper drivers (which can't be solved in this case), such a port will never be all that great.
Zhypr said:
With the lack of proper drivers (which can't be solved in this case), such a port will never be all that great.
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Wouldn't it also require soff?
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Interesting project. Do we have any dual boot software ported over to our advice?
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Should't be too hard, they both share linux roots , and kernel
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XxKU134xX said:
Should't be too hard, they both share linux roots , and kernel
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don't think it is so...
matt95 said:
don't think it is so...
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Android and open os are both based on the linux framework!
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XxKU134xX said:
Android and open os are both based on the linux framework!
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yeah i didn't mean that i meant that it isn't so easy to port it over here
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yeah i didn't mean that i meant that it isn't so easy to port it over here
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+50$
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chromium OS on hox will be nice too .
You probably need to email and pm devs to get people to work on this. Look for the big devs on your devices forum pm them advertise it to them as a new thing to test and how fun it will be for them to do something new, then offer them the reward.

[Q] Is Nokia X real android?

Some news said its real system was Symbian 6.0,and it just can run Android app.Is the news real?
I'm sorry for my bad English..
i thought it is aosp android.
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363975501 said:
Some news said its real system was Symbian 6.0,and it just can run Android app.Is the news real?
I'm sorry for my bad English..
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No, its a heavily modified fork of the Android Open Source Project(Android 4.1), with all the google stuff replaced with microsoft services.
Depends on what you mean with real Android, but it's based on android open source project so yeah i call it "real" Android but it's modified as f*ck so it doesn't look like Android at all but from beginning it is pure Android.
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Depends on what you mean with real Android, but it's based on android open source project so yeah i call it "real" Android but it's modified as f*ck so it doesn't look like Android at all but from beginning it is pure Android.
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It is a fork of Android and is confirmed because at has been possible to install and fully working GAPS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50707725
trunkline said:
It is a fork of Android and is confirmed because at has been possible to install and fully working GAPS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50707725
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/facepalm
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*facepalming with you*
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Nokia doesn't accept it as an Android, head of Nokia Turkey said that it's not an android as the others, it's different and we call it Nokia X platform
363975501 said:
Some news said its real system was Symbian 6.0,and it just can run Android app.Is the news real?
I'm sorry for my bad English..
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You can say that but Nokia heavily modified the AOSP and gave it a Windows + Asha UI and support for all kinds of APK's which can be installed from Third Party Apps like Blackmart and also Nokia is partnering with the store.Yandex.com (just like Play store) which has lakhs of Android apps available for download to it's Nokia X users.
Yesterday a Dev called Kashamalaga posted a guide to install full working GAPPS on Nokia X which allows you to have all Google Play services (including Play Store) on Nokia X.
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i thought it is aosp android.
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I think so..Thanks for your answer..
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No, its a heavily modified fork of the Android Open Source Project(Android 4.1), with all the google stuff replaced with microsoft services.
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But why does it use Android 4.1 instead of Andorid 4.3 or 4.4?
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But why does it use Android 4.1 instead of Andorid 4.3 or 4.4?
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Using 4.1 shows that Nokia was working on this for a long time now, maybe from early 2013 onwards. Why they didn't update to 4.3 or 4.4 i dont know. 4.4 would be a much better option for the X as it is more optimized for low-spec phones.
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Using 4.1 shows that Nokia was working on this for a long time now, maybe from early 2013 onwards. Why they didn't update to 4.3 or 4.4 i dont know. 4.4 would be a much better option for the X as it is more optimized for low-spec phones.
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yeah..thanks for your answer
maybe they're lazy.. because making tons of mod is not easy @[email protected]
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Depends on what you mean with real Android, but it's based on android open source project so yeah i call it "real" Android but it's modified as f*ck so it doesn't look like Android at all but from beginning it is pure Android.
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uh..may be..thanks for your answer
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maybe they're lazy.. because making tons of mod is not easy @[email protected]
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Sure, they are. ?
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looney64 said:
No, its a heavily modified fork of the Android Open Source Project(Android 4.1), with all the google stuff replaced with microsoft services.
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Android has no "Google stuff" to be replaced. Android IS NOT GOOGLE. Google ADDS that to Android, and requires anyone releasing Android to pay a licensing fee to add Google Play Services.
It is in fact based on Qualcomm's reference design platform. QRD resources are still in the ROM.
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Android has no "Google stuff" to be replaced. Android IS NOT GOOGLE. Google ADDS that to Android, and requires anyone releasing Android to pay a licensing fee to add Google Play Services.
It is in fact based on Qualcomm's reference design platform. QRD resources are still in the ROM.
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Oh. Sorry, my bad.
feel devs just droll seeing a nokia with an android and nokis X forum already created even before the release of the device awesome..though nokia said nokia x available immediately at the MWC but i doubt its true as i cant find a single unboxing video till now..
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feel devs just droll seeing a nokia with an android and nokis X forum already created even before the release of the device awesome..though nokia said nokia x available immediately at the MWC but i doubt its true as i cant find a single unboxing video till now..
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What are you trying to say? Even the galaxy s5, xperia z2 are other devices have forums even though they aren't released.

Sense 6

Will u think That there will be a Sense 6 Rom for our One x (or even an official update ) ?
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It's a question ?......open it in the Q&A section next time.
No not official.....maybe bits and pieces will be ported if someone is geeky enough to put their time and effort in it. But the complete sense 6 framework will never be ported.
The new apk system for sense 6 ingredients will make pouring parts of sense 6 easier . And to be honest I think porting all sense 6 to HTC sensation will be much easier than porting it to the more powerful HIX
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Yeah tegra is tegra...
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It is already confirmed that the only devices that will have OFFICIAL Sense 6 will be: One 2014, One, One Mini and One Max
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It is already confirmed that the only devices that will have OFFICIAL Sense 6 will be: One 2014, One, One Mini and One Max
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Well, this is the reason why HTC is in the global position where it is. They do not care for their costumers, then we have our way to punish companies by boycotting their products.
If IPhone 4 can still receive updates (7.1 version) after almost 4 years, why our ONE X which are very good phones and powerfull can not receive 4.4 ?
See what the world thinks about your prodcuts; http://news.yahoo.com/htc-built-world-best-smartphone-nobody-cared-again-195440431.html
Be ready HTC for boycott. Will never ever taste your products. (This is my strongest position to f.... you up).
Well if they use qualcomm and play it smart they might... Just get out of the slumber
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Well, this is the reason why HTC is in the global position where it is. They do not care for their costumers, then we have our way to punish companies by boycotting their products.
If IPhone 4 can still receive updates (7.1 version) after almost 4 years, why our ONE X which are very good phones and powerfull can not receive 4.4 ?
See what the world thinks about your prodcuts; http://news.yahoo.com/htc-built-world-best-smartphone-nobody-cared-again-195440431.html
Be ready HTC for boycott. Will never ever taste your products. (This is my strongest position to f.... you up).
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Yeah this is why i'm switching to LG G2 after 3 years of ihateTC.
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mqazimi said:
Well, this is the reason why HTC is in the global position where it is. They do not care for their costumers, then we have our way to punish companies by boycotting their products.
If IPhone 4 can still receive updates (7.1 version) after almost 4 years, why our ONE X which are very good phones and powerfull can not receive 4.4 ?
See what the world thinks about your prodcuts; http://news.yahoo.com/htc-built-world-best-smartphone-nobody-cared-again-195440431.html
Be ready HTC for boycott. Will never ever taste your products. (This is my strongest position to f.... you up).
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It isn't completely HTC's fault. Nvidia has dropped support for the Tegra3 chipset, which makes it extremely hard for HTC to release and official Android 4.4 update since they don't have the necessary drivers.
However, I don't know how custom rom developers CAN get Android 4.4 running well on the HOX while HTC can't..
But the good part of the new sense is the new apk system . Now zoe, BlinkFeed and home launcher each has it's own apk file available at the play store . So we can expect porting of some sense 6 elements to our device .
And beside I wouldn't get surprised to see in near future HTC sensation to receive a full firmware port of sense 6 and we still stand still with sense 5 on HOX
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It isn't completely HTC's fault. Nvidia has dropped support for the Tegra3 chipset, which makes it extremely hard for HTC to release and official Android 4.4 update since they don't have the necessary drivers.
However, I don't know how custom Rom developers CAN get Android 4.4 running well on the HOX while HTC can't..
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Yeah right.. if custom Rom developers can make kitkat run smoothly on one x than why can't htc ? They have a bigger development team..
StiQuezNL said:
It isn't completely HTC's fault. Nvidia has dropped support for the Tegra3 chipset, which makes it extremely hard for HTC to release and official Android 4.4 update since they don't have the necessary drivers.
However, I don't know how custom rom developers CAN get Android 4.4 running well on the HOX while HTC can't..
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KitKat ROM's available for our phone doesn't have Sense framework. Only AOSP or similar. So that's your answer. If Devs can build sense onto that then fair enough but Sense is closed source I believe so what can we do?!
Its close source that's why developers cant make kitkat Rom for oneX..
I am damn sure if it was open source, xda's great developers would have made sense based kitkat rom for hox
Ok . HTC CAN force nvidia to provide updates to tegra3 chips as Google had managed to get kitkat's kernel from nvidia for it's own variant if tegra3 chip on nexus 7 tablet
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Ok . HTC CAN force nvidia to provide updates to tegra3 chips as Google had managed to get kitkat's kernel from nvidia for it's own variant if tegra3 chip on nexus 7 tablet
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no HTC etc can't force them...they can ask if they could provide updates...but nvidia doesn't want that..the tegra 3 in nexus 7 is different to that in hox and is running also a bit better...for example games are running better etc...so hm
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KitKat ROM's available for our phone doesn't have Sense framework. Only AOSP or similar. So that's your answer. If Devs can build sense onto that then fair enough but Sense is closed source I believe so what can we do?!
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I know, but they've proven that KitKat AOSP runs smoothly on our One X. I think if KitKat AOSP can run on our phone, Sense 6 can too..?
But well, it won't happen... At least not as an official update.
mqazimi said:
Well, this is the reason why HTC is in the global position where it is. They do not care for their costumers, then we have our way to punish companies by boycotting their products.
If IPhone 4 can still receive updates (7.1 version) after almost 4 years, why our ONE X which are very good phones and powerfull can not receive 4.4 ?
See what the world thinks about your prodcuts; http://news.yahoo.com/htc-built-world-best-smartphone-nobody-cared-again-195440431.html
Be ready HTC for boycott. Will never ever taste your products. (This is my strongest position to f.... you up).
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It's due to the lack of drivers for our processor. While the other variants of HTC One X that uses a Qualcomm processor can have the new versions of Android and Sense. I believe they are already evaluating the 4.3 ROM for the Evita.
why htc don't update sense 6 for one x >"<~
nnthanh said:
why htc don't update sense 6 for one x >"<~
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best question!
nnthanh said:
why htc don't update sense 6 for one x >"<~
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Lol....
Because htc wanted you to ask this question here..

HTC Source Code?

How does HTC compare to Samsung?
Is *everything* HTC produces available to devs? Or does HTC refuse to release proprietary source code like Samsung does?
Will 'unofficial' builds be able to be rated as stable?
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HTC does release source and stable builds of aosp are typically achieved. The main thing you have to worry about is when HTC decides end of update lifecycle. That's when stable releases for aosp base becomes really slow.
Since there's a gpe version, I'm hoping the update lifecycle will be longer than previous HTC phones.
I owned an Evo 3d and one xl previously.
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Thanks @exad
How quickly does that happen?
What sort of update life cycle can the M8 expect?
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Hmmm a year and a halfish? As for what we can expect for the m8.. I am without a crystal ball.
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Hmmm a year and a halfish? As for what we can expect for the m8.. I am without a crystal ball.
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Lol....I wasn't expecting an exact answer, just wondered if HTC had a policy of updating for a specified set duration irrespective of model.....
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Not that I know of.
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keithross39 said:
Lol....I wasn't expecting an exact answer, just wondered if HTC had a policy of updating for a specified set duration irrespective of model.....
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They're committed to two years on major Android updates for North American phones.
The ever necessary source so that the naysayers are kept at bay: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1xxjfx/hi_were_the_htc_usa_product_team_amaa/
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They're committed to two years on major Android updates for North American phones.
The ever necessary source so that the naysayers are kept at bay: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1xxjfx/hi_were_the_htc_usa_product_team_amaa/
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That's not so bad.......
The average phone contract here in the UK is 2 years........
By the time my current contract is up and I get the M8, the end of my new 2 year contract will put me about 6 months past that 2 year update life cycle........
I can live with that.......
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keithross39 said:
How does HTC compare to Samsung?
Is *everything* HTC produces available to devs? Or does HTC refuse to release proprietary source code like Samsung does?
Will 'unofficial' builds be able to be rated as stable?
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well it IS proprietary...meaning it isn't open source so they don't have to release it.
and yes, they refuse to release sources for Sense and many of their Sense applications.
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well it IS proprietary...meaning it isn't open source so they don't have to release it.
and yes, they refuse to release sources for Sense and many of their Sense applications.
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THAT I can understand.....it'll be the same for any manufacturer.......
But then Sense, Touchwiz and the like isn't strictly needed for AOSP.
What I was asking about (and probably should have been clearer about) was device source code......
Case in point......
Samsung and Exynos.......source code needed to make the device function correctly irrespective of what is running on it.....
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keithross39 said:
THAT I can understand.....it'll be the same for any manufacturer.......
But then Sense, Touchwiz and the like isn't strictly needed for AOSP.
What I was asking about (and probably should have been clearer about) was device source code......
Case in point......
Samsung and Exynos.......source code needed to make the device function correctly irrespective of what is running on it.....
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I understood what you meant and answered you. They do for all versions until support for the device ends
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keithross39 said:
How does HTC compare to Samsung?
Is *everything* HTC produces available to devs? Or does HTC refuse to release proprietary source code like Samsung does?
Will 'unofficial' builds be able to be rated as stable?
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HTC refuses to release proprietary code. This has always been a problem with HTC and will likely continue to be one. Don't believe me ask kernel developer @flar2. The first source code they released not too long had a fair amount of code lopped off of it. The only truly open source is AOSP. Even the Nexus line diverges a bit from true open source as they have closed source certain apps like google calendar, maps and keyboard. But these can at least be downloaded from play store.
So is HTC still perceived as the least (or so I have read) 'dev friendly' manufacturer?
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keithross39 said:
So is HTC still perceived as the least (or so I have read) 'dev friendly' manufacturer?
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There definitely up there, I think Samsung especially the exynos version is worse. At the least we have access to Code Aurora (Qualcomm source code) and they are very good about releasing source.
jlevy73 said:
There definitely up there, I think Samsung especially the exynos version is worse. At the least we have access to Code Aurora (Qualcomm source code) and they are very good about releasing source.
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EDIT: Sorry @jlevy73 - I quoted the wrong person.
They all have things that include IP that is closed, including Google Nexus, which is also different from AOSP.
Some of the things aren't even HTC related, there are proprietary drivers & such that they themselves license from Qualcomm, & other component manufacturers. I would say that they are much more developer friendly than most of the OEM's.
Well, none of that is going to affect my decision to get the M8.......
I just want to be able to proceed with all the relevant information......
So long as I can.....
A) root it
B) install some root access apps
C) debloat (if necessary)
D) *maybe* flash a custom rom
(In that order, with D being a possibility rather than a certainty)
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