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Best Way To Handle Email

Hi Everyone,
There has been a lot of discussion about the best way to use email on a smartphone like the Tytn. Does everyone use the IMAP protocal for best results?
Personally, I get A LOT of mail for work and I would love to find a way to get the mail I want but not have to deal with junk mail and other emails that are automated on our side workwise.
Any suggestions?

ackerchez said:
Hi Everyone,
There has been a lot of discussion about the best way to use email on a smartphone like the Tytn. Does everyone use the IMAP protocal for best results?
Personally, I get A LOT of mail for work and I would love to find a way to get the mail I want but not have to deal with junk mail and other emails that are automated on our side workwise.
Any suggestions?
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is your work email PUSH email? or just pop3?

walshieau said:
is your work email PUSH email? or just pop3?
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Hey walshieau, Thanks for getting back to me. My email is a simple pop3 account.

ackerchez said:
Hey walshieau, Thanks for getting back to me. My email is a simple pop3 account.
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if the email server supports IMAP then use it....

Or to get full functionality, rent an exchange server mailbox from someone like 4smartphone (for about US$50 per annum) and get push email etc.

IMAP generates a lot more traffic than POP3. Just fetching a single
mailheader (send/receive when there is 1 new mail) yields over 10 kB more
traffic in IMAP. As my one subscription is limited to 10 MB/month, thus
using POP3 makes much more sense (speed could also be an argument,
altought even in GPRS it doesn't differ that much). Conseqently, I have
different entries for the same mailbox (currently: 3 IMAP, 1 POP3).... but
this also has to do with my question:
How do you guys work with different outgoing mailservers?
I have duplicated my mail account 4 times: once for each outgoing
mailserver I want to use. I then just make sure I have selected the
correct mailbox prior to starting a new message. But this hardly is an
elegant solution (I have to fetch mails for all of the accounts to keep
them up to date). As the different mailservers have no log in, I cannot
use them when not accessing via that particular provider. I have been
looking at some mechanism to hack the hosts file, but the tool
"pockethosts" isn't very well suited for this purpose (and haven't found
anything else).
Jörg

email
Hi, I'm currently using 3 email addresses on my phone plus the sync with my pc.(and home pc)
All I've come up with so far is to set all email pop/imap to only download headers, (and 2 of them only set for the last 3 days only),then I need to "select" manually what email I want to read and download them, the rest I leave for outlook to look after on my PC.
At the end of the day I finish up with a lot of "unread" emails on my phone, BUT once sync'd with pc they are all copied across anyway, just in my "outlook" folders, not my phone email accounts, if all that makes sense.
Any replies of forwards on my phone from any email includes my signature "email" that I prefer to use.
ie seperate work, personal etc
cheers
fadge

Server side filtering may be the answer for you.
http://www.modernnomads.info/wiki/index.php?page=Server+side+e-mail+filtering

gmail
I went to Gmail. Now it front-ends 4 different POP3 accounts, and with the spam protection it has it saves me from deleting a lot of crap. Only downside is that although I can read all my email on my Hermes, I can't really manage my Gmail account the way I want from the native mail client on the Hermes. No worries, I can always use the Mobile Gmail java app or go through IE to the mobile Gmail website. It's working for me...ymmv.

Great Alternative For Syncing Calendar And Email With An Exchange Server

At my job, our company emails are setup through an exchange server, and they only allow company computers to sync with it directly. They do have a website setup for Outlook Web Access so we can view contacts, email, the calendar, etc. through a webpage, but I would rather have my calendar and emails through the TF3D interface instead of logging into a website. This great little program called Chronobis allows me to sync the calendar, tasks, and contacts through the OWA website. There's also a new beta just released that allows you to receive email. It doesn't support sending email as of yet. It's a nice option for those in the same predicament as me.

great thanks

thank you so much
this is exactly what i needed

How did you get it working?
dmakk said:
At my job, our company emails are setup through an exchange server, and they only allow company computers to sync with it directly. They do have a website setup for Outlook Web Access so we can view contacts, email, the calendar, etc. through a webpage, but I would rather have my calendar and emails through the TF3D interface instead of logging into a website. This great little program called Chronobis allows me to sync the calendar, tasks, and contacts through the OWA website. There's also a new beta just released that allows you to receive email. It doesn't support sending email as of yet. It's a nice option for those in the same predicament as me.
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Can anyone give me some instruction on how to set this up. I have downloaded and installed the app and set up a pop e-mail account as stated on their forum, but still couldn't get it to work. There doesn't really seem to be anything by way of a help file on their site...
I have been after something like this as I don't think our work exchange server is configured to sync with mobile devices...
Cheers

Wonder if this might come in handy for current Mail2Web free users, unable to use Activesync from May 1st. OWA via desktop browser remains free.

thanks
this looks to have good potential .. will try now ! Thanks
One quick thing, would it "lock" my device as my exchange server does when I try to sync directly with it.

Glad you guys are finding Chronobis useful.
One of the biggest problems right now is that I'm having trouble getting this to work with Exchange 2007. In their infinite wisdom, the Exchange developers thought it was a good idea to just completely drop support for WEBDAV in 2007... I like the idea that it is all web services now, but it definitely isn't backwards compatible. I'm also concerned that access to the new web services might actually be controllable by the administrators, were WEBDAV had to be enabled for OWA to function. (Still looking into this one)
So sorry if you are on Exchange 2007, it might be a little while before Chronobis supports it.
Things seem to be working well on the Exchange 2003 front though. If you are having issues configuring it and have Exchange 2003, I suggest you take a look at (or post your questions to) the forums on the Chronobis site, that's where I look for them.
Thanks,
frejos - Chronobis Creator

hey guys, well when i go to my companys outlook access OWA site, it has a login that i need to enter on a certain page... https://owana.ford.com/exchange when i enter one username and password for that site, it then states that its been accepted and leads me to a popup that pops up where i enter a different set of username and password....so how would i set up this application?

how can i access webmail? mail.company.com/owa

i already set up an exchange for my client so i can check emails, but i also have a corporate email. i obviously can't set up two exchange, so i access the webmail i.e. http://mail.company.com/owa
apparently, when entering my username/password i can't seem to access my mail. is there some kind of set up needed? or any way to set up two exchange?

mail.company.com/exchange
domain\username
password
have you tried that?

You should be accessing OWA through https instead of http. Standard OWA address should look like https://mail.company.com/owa. Also make sure you use Opera since it will work best with OWA. Also, if you want to load it faster, you can load a WAP version by using https://wap.mail.company.com. You'll get less features but you'll have a faster access to mails and other exchange content.

thanks! it works now!

Use PIE
Hi all
While you might feel dirty afterwards, OWA will always work better through PIE than through a 3rd Party browser. MS designed it that way.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking

this may sound weird..but i flashed my phone with a new rom and tried to access company mail, and can't log in...if i select LIGHT on the screen for log in, everything is all distorted, but it works in Opera...why is IE being buggy?

[Q] Hosted images in emails - how to block them? [android]

I've tried searching the forums for this but with no luck. I'm new to Android and one thing is irritating me about the email application on my new Desire HD.
When I view an email the phone automatically downloads any images that are required, even if they're hosted and not embedded. This means that if I accidentally open a spam email, the phone displays it in full HTML format with the images included. I want to block those images completely (for all emails).
Is that possible with the built-in mail application? I can't find a setting that controls this, and yet it seems like such a fundamental principle on a mobile phone that the user should have control over which images are downloaded. Windows Mobile - for all its faults - did this perfectly.
I don't want to download another mail client yet - the built-in one works fine for me apart from this (and the fact that deleting emails on the phone doesn't delete them on the server - but that's for another thread).

Can I get a bump here? Please?

I'm not sure which email prog you are using.
But if you use Gmail rather than DHD phones email app, you can have all your email accounts go through the one Gmail account, which filters spam mail, and has settings for what type and size of mail you receive.
Plus all your phones emails are backed up on your google/android account.

I'm with SiliconS on this...
All mail clients (malex1 gmail is not a mail client it is a mail service)... all mail clients except androids give you the option of whether or not to download images embedded in the email.
This has a number of benefits, not least of which it prevents spammers from identifying which email addresses they spam to are actually active.
I do not want to use gmail, that is not a viable option.. I just want a good email client.
Does anyone know of one?
Thanks
ok I know when to shut up
androidtapp.com/4-best-android-apps-for-email-android-app-recommendations-from-the-experts-at-androidtapp-com/

Email in the phone

Guys
I am using an Android phone. I have the stock email program and I have also K9 and Enhanced Email all running at the same time.
I have an Gmail account but don't use it for email or for nothing really dont trust the cloud/google.
My problem is all the email apps work great BUT when I open outlook then they all get removed form my phone. So basically the only emails I am left with are the send ones(in my phone). This happens with my POP and exchange accounts.
My question:
1) is there a Mail App that will make a copy of the email in my phone so when I open outlook they wont get sync and disappear?
2) If number 1 is no then is there a easy way to full your phone to keep the emails.
Thank you

Tungsten c said:
Guys
I am using an Android phone. I have the stock email program and I have also K9 and Enhanced Email all running at the same time.
I have an Gmail account but don't use it for email or for nothing really dont trust the cloud/google.
My problem is all the email apps work great BUT when I open outlook then they all get removed form my phone. So basically the only emails I am left with are the send ones(in my phone). This happens with my POP and exchange accounts.
My question:
1) is there a Mail App that will make a copy of the email in my phone so when I open outlook they wont get sync and disappear?
2) If number 1 is no then is there a easy way to full your phone to keep the emails.
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A properly configured Exchange server usually doesn't allow the local device to retain the message data, it's all accessed real-time from the server. Its possible you have what I call a Half-Ass Exchange, which means you have a central address directory, but the IT department set up Outlook and Exchange to store messages locally on the PC rather than on the server. This would lead to what you are experiencing... Outlook takes all the messages off the server, leaving your phone with nothing to see when it connects. There's not a whole lot you can do about that unless your IT guys will move your email data to the Exchange server. Or maybe they have an IMAP access option. (See below)
With pop3 accounts... You have a similar problem, except there is no way to for two different devices to access the same data. The closest you can get would be to configure both devices to leave messages on the server after downloading them. Any emailed replies then can only be accessed from the device from which you sent them.
If you have the option, switch your pop3 accounts to IMAP. All user data is kept on a server (just like GMail), and any device that is connected to that account automatically syncs with the server, including access to deleted messages and sent messages sent from any other device.
All that being said... The stock email program kinda sucks. I would stick with the 3rd party apps like K9.

This is a new issue to me. I came from a PRE WEBOS and i did not have that problem. I believe the problem is in the way ANDROID OS handles emails. Basically all its changed is the device all else remained constant. I believe but not sure that if i was run all my mail thru gmail this will not be an issue. Its that true?
Thanks

Tungsten c said:
This is a new issue to me. I came from a PRE WEBOS and i did not have that problem. I believe the problem is in the way ANDROID OS handles emails. Basically all its changed is the device all else remained constant. I believe but not sure that if i was run all my mail thru gmail this will not be an issue. Its that true?
Thanks
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I access my pop3 mail just fine using K9 (again, I don't like the stock email program). Downloaded messages remain on my phone after they've been downloaded by my Thunderbird installation on my PC.
My current company doesn't have an Exchange server, so I can't speak to that with direct knowledge... My lat experience with Exchange was about two years ago, so its behavior could certainly have changed! My current company has 10 locations, and they are content to use a 3rd party pop3 solution for email. As an IT man, that annoys me, but then, I don't write the checks!
If you haven't changed any settings in your Outlook, then I would look closer to your settings in the email programs. K9 specifically has a setting that you need to check in order to download the messages to your phone (as opposed to just reading them off the server). I don't remember if it came checked by default...
Check to see if your phone email programs are set to actually download entire messages from the server, or just the message headers. In K9, there is a specific setting under account

Dalmus said:
I access my pop3 mail just fine using K9 (again, I don't like the stock email program). Downloaded messages remain on my phone after they've been downloaded by my Thunderbird installation on my PC.
My current company doesn't have an Exchange server, so I can't speak to that with direct knowledge... My lat experience with Exchange was about two years ago, so its behavior could certainly have changed! My current company has 10 locations, and they are content to use a 3rd party pop3 solution for email. As an IT man, that annoys me, but then, I don't write the checks!
If you haven't changed any settings in your Outlook, then I would look closer to your settings in the email programs. K9 specifically has a setting that you need to check in order to download the messages to your phone (as opposed to just reading them off the server). I don't remember if it came checked by default...
Check to see if your phone email programs are set to actually download entire messages from the server, or just the message headers. In K9, there is a specific setting under account
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I don't see that option on my Enhanced Email program nor in the stock email program and I can not use K-9 because y does not support outlook 2010 exchange yet.
thank you