Hi all!
I'm pleased to see that root access to the Desire now is obtained, kudos to the developers! I'm tempted to root my device, but I do have some questions:
1) Can I keep the stock ROM after rooting the device?
2) Will I get SuperUser rights with the stock ROM after rooting?
3) Will I be able to by applications from the Market in an originally unsupported region (Scandinavia)?
4) Will I be able to use Apps2SD with the stock ROM after rooting?
5) If I decide to flash a cooked ROM, will I then:
a) Be able to backup my massages and restore them to the new ROM after flashing?
b) Revert back to the original stock ROM? (I guess this is not supported atm)
c) Choose a Norwegian keyboard with Norwegian XT9?
BTW. I have an unbranded and unlocked device bought in Norway.
Hopefully someone can help an Android noob that have converted from the WinMo scene, by answering my question.
I'm going to answer from the perspective that you have no idea to accomplish this yourself.
1) Can I keep the stock ROM after rooting the device?
- No. See (2)
2) Will I get SuperUser rights with the stock ROM after rooting?
- Not unless you install it yourself, and push the su binary to the write-protected /system directory
4) Will I be able to use Apps2SD with the stock ROM after rooting?
- No
5) If I decide to flash a cooked ROM, will I then:
a) Be able to backup my massages and restore them to the new ROM after flashing?
You can find this out yourself. Look for backup applications on the market and see if they offer what you want.
b) Revert back to the original stock ROM? (I guess this is not supported atm)
I've heard you can in order so you can use your warranty; it might be stock or something where HTC can't tell what you've done
I have a noob question:
I unlocked my bootloader and rooted my gsm nexus. However I would like to be able to receive and install any updates OTA- basically stay as stock as possible with root. My plan was to leave the stock recovery in place. If I need to do a backup or reflash su.zip (after an update to regain root) I was planning on running rom manager and using it to flash CWM. I realize that this CWM would not survive a reboot as the startup script will reflash the stock recovery.
Will this work and does it make sense?
thanks
quick bump- basically I want to know what will prevent an OTA update from installing
Edit I realized there was a flaw in my logic. After an OTA update I will lose root and then be unable to flash the recovery via rom manager. I guess will have to resort to fastboot after OTA
I currently have a stock 4.1 rom, the one that came on the device. It's a german rom, even though I live in the Netherlands. That doesn't botter me, btw I use US english as a system language.
I rooted that with auto root. So I have NO recovery and NO triangle. However I do have system status modified and thus cannot OTA update.
No what I want to achieve is:
-Newest STOCK rom, with ink blob etc
-Maybe different language rom, does that matter for ANYTHING?
-Enable OTA
-Keep root
-No triangle
-Ability to flash zips, most importantly NFC at lock screen, and allow more apps for split view.
-Keep EVERYTHING what is currently on, so no factory reset if possible.
Is all this possible, and how? I cannot for the life of me find any info how to do it.
Thanks VERY much if anyone knows and can explain.
N7100 btw
No, update is not possible via OTA or Kies when you're rooted.
Sent from my GT-N7100
Okay, let's say forget about OTA, is the other combination still possible?
You can use Mobile Odin to flash a stock ROM with keeping root. And flashing a stock official ROM will not wipe any data.
To flash zip's you need to have a custom/advanced Recovery.
Sent from my GT-N7100
Edit: okay I used Xposed for the NFC at lock screen so flashable zips is not really needed anymore. Now my final question stands:
If I flash, for instance this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1915386
1: My triangle will stay away, correct?
2: However, I will need to choose French, which is not a problem, but does this not change anything else besides the default system language? I thought it had something to do with handwriting as well (which I currently don't have)?
3: If I choose either ODEX or DEODEXED, both will keep all my data?
Delano.888 said:
Edit: okay I used Xposed for the NFC at lock screen so flashable zips is not really needed anymore. Now my final question stands:
If I flash, for instance this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1915386
1: My triangle will stay away, correct?
2: However, I will need to choose French, which is not a problem, but does this not change anything else besides the default system language? I thought it had something to do with handwriting as well (which I currently don't have)?
3: If I choose either ODEX or DEODEXED, both will keep all my data?
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I can't answer your question with regard to language options. However, flashing that ROM via ODIN, either odexed or deodexed, should not wipe your data or increase your flash counter.
However, and another member has already mentioned this, I strongly suggest you familarize yourself with MobileODIN. Currently, there is no way to receive OTA updates with "Modified" system status; and if you're rooted, you'll always have "Modified" system status.
However, just because your device can't receive OTA updates, that doesn't mean your device can't flash OTA updates that you've downloaded manually via an update.zip. Furthermore, flashing an OTA update.zip via MobileODIN Pro will allow you to retain root through the process. Additionally, MobileODIN also has the ability to flash full, PC ODIN-Flashable ROMs just like the odexed/deodexed ones you're currently looking at. Unlike with PC ODIN though, MobileODIN Pro gives you the option to inject root into whatever ROM you happen to be flashing at the time. So, if you wanted, you could go download the absolute latest completely stock, untouched, unrooted OTA or full ROM, use MobileODIN to flash it and root it at the same time, and remain completely stock except for having root access.
Now, I don't know if staying as stock as possible is even important to you. However, if it is, then MobileODIN Pro is your one-stop-shop for flashing stock, PC ODIN-Flashable ROMs whenever you need to. And even if staying completely stock isn't important to you, MobileODIN is still the best way to update to the latest ROM before cooks even have a chance to include it in their custom ROMs.
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After updating to Factory 4.1.2 ROM (January 2013 Build N7100OZSDMA6), I rooted my phone (using Odin) to fix a wifi problem caused by the 4.1.2 update. My wifi now functions properly, and the phone is still rooted and I have not reset the counter to zero. There is now a newer factory build of 4.1.2 (February 2013 Build N7100OZSDMB1).
If I go to the phone Settings-Update to perform an OTA update, I cannot install the latest Factory ROM, apparently because my counter is not set to zero and/or because my phone is rooted.
What steps do I need to take to OTA install the latest Factory ROM?
Once I Install the latest Factory ROM my phone will not longer be rooted and the counter will set to zero -- correct?
Please use the search feature. It's for your own benefit.
You will get the answer faster.
See in ketan's thread in original development section.
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Hi,
I am new to Samsung devices and have therefore some questions:
I can reverse always to a stock ROM via Odin or Kies? (Beside the Warranty Counter bit)
There is no way to reset the warranty counter yet (and probably never)?
For the p600 (WiFi only): I can get root via cf-auto or TWRP recovery? And I have to delete or freeze all Knox applications?
Can I try to flash other stock versions or must I choose the correct country version?
I can build a custom ROM from the downloadable stock ROMs and flash this via recovery (like for other brands)? Or have I to build a custom ROM different?
Is a OTA (stock ROM) still possible after (a) custom recovery, (b) root and (c) freezing Knox applications? Or have I always flash first a stock ROM?
Thanks for every answer.
Elim
PS. Maybe when I know enough, I will find some time to build a custom ROM for the p600 (WiFi only).
PPS. Maybe other questions follow.
Elim said:
PPS. Maybe other questions follow.
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This one:
Should we remove sd-cards before flashing? I didn't see any comment on this but I now from older devices that sometime the card is not longer recognized afterwards.