(TRICK) How to delay the OTA update... - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

Using Titanium backup I froze "At&t software update V3_1205_2_2" and it hasn't prompted me for the update since. Just for any of you that happen to love the universal search including device results.

emoandy said:
Using Titanium backup I froze "At&t software update V3_1205_2_2" and it hasn't prompted me for the update since. Just for any of you that happen to love the universal search including device results.
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I'm confused. I've had my galaxy s3 for about a month, but only opened it about 2 days ago to get everything up and running. I still have unified search, and my phone has never prompted me to update, so I just haven't to keep my unified search for now. Weird.

If you want your unified search, root and install the apk with the full search.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426

Randomacts said:
If you want your unified search, root and install the apk with the full search.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
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That would seem to work too

Can.I.Haz.Jelly.Bean? said:
I'm confused. I've had my galaxy s3 for about a month, but only opened it about 2 days ago to get everything up and running. I still have unified search, and my phone has never prompted me to update, so I just haven't to keep my unified search for now. Weird.
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Same here, actually. I think a few of the preorder phones escaped Samsung's factory with broken/incomplete firmware. Mine never got the OTA and going to settings>about>Software Update does nothing. It doesn't even check for updates, it's like the menu item is a place holder for future functionality. I assume yours is the same?
Edit: Looks like it really is just a placeholder. Watching logcat with adb while trying to check for updates only fires messages for the touch press action, but nothing further. Looks like some phones were shipped with incomplete roms (?)

here's the two screenshots for reference
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766273

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[Q] Need help ASAP unlocked R800x is auto updating!

Currently 35% downloaded. Is there any way to cancel the install phase? I was not prompted and cannot stop the download. I hope others aren't next, I tried various tricks when I first rooted to break my communication with the OTA update but obviously that didn't work.
Evil-Eye said:
Currently 35% downloaded. Is there any way to cancel the install phase? I was not prompted and cannot stop the download. I hope others aren't next, I tried various tricks when I first rooted to break my communication with the OTA update but obviously that didn't work.
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Probably too late now 20 minutes later, but you could always pull the battery. That will buy you a little time. Then you could fastboot boot the recovery from the dev forum, access your phone with adb, and delete the update application apks from the system.
Quick uodate, I was able to postpone the update with the remind me later option I was given. Luckily it asked me at some point but my issue is still there, how do I get rid of this uodate pest? Renamint the ota-certs.zip file isn't enough because I did that a while ago.
I will try that when I get home. Is this system updates apk something I can get to from root explorer? I would love to end while I'm still at work.
Thanks Mills! I used Titanium backup to back the system-update.apk to my SD and then removed it from internal. The option to update disappeared in Settings. I out it back just to make sure I fixed it, the update option reappeared so I removed it again and now it's over. Thanks so much for helping me in the clutch. Felt like my phone had a bomb strapped to it. Oh and in Titanium I deleted the app data just to be safe and remove that update. Hopefully this info gets around so no one else is surprised.
Evil-Eye said:
Thanks Mills! I used Titanium backup to back the system-update.apk to my SD and then removed it from internal. The option to update disappeared in Settings. I out it back just to make sure I fixed it, the update option reappeared so I removed it again and now it's over. Thanks so much for helping me in the clutch. Felt like my phone had a bomb strapped to it. Oh and in Titanium I deleted the app data just to be safe and remove that update. Hopefully this info gets around so no one else is surprised.
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Looks like I was wrong, the phone updated while I was busy at work and is now not turning on. With my lady at home expecting anytime I was in a catch 22, do I turn the phone off and try and help it's safety or do I do what apears to have worked. Well I had faith in what I did and now have to revert back to a crapberry. I'm calling Verizon out on this one, there is no good excuse for me to HAVE to had updated and it shouldn't be a complex procedure to say no to any updates.
Mobile Care is the app to delete or freeze on a R800x to prevent ota updating.
Thanks a MILLION for that tip markcyst. I unbricked my phone so now I will be deleting "mobile care".
how did you unbrick your phone !!! please help
This worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126354
nick4nick said:
how did you unbrick your phone !!! please help
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How do I ensure I DON'T GET kitkat?

I got the notification that the kitkat update was downloaded but after reading there is no flash support I have absolutely no interest in installibg this update. I got a nexus 7 over an iPad solely because I could use flash which is the only game in town on many sites I visit regularly. I got rid of the notification by unchecking notifications in the framework app but I'm worried if my tablet reboots/powers off that I will forced to update before it starts up. Please tell me this is not the case? Also is there a way to delete the download period, even if it's not installed I'd rather it not eating up limited memory that I have.
Flash should work in dolphin
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Flash should work in dolphin
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It won't, Google replaced the fast and compatible WebKit engine with the slow as hell and flash incompatible chromium webview...
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 7 mit Tapatalk 4
deezid said:
It won't, Google replaced the fast and compatible WebKit engine with the slow as hell and flash incompatible chromium webview...
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 7 mit Tapatalk 4
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Dolphin use their own engine, if flash does not work on KitKat install dolphin jetpack and choose that as your rendering engine in dolphin settings
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Flash should work in dolphin
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Not from what I've read, read on this site an official statement from dolphin saying flash wasn't supported on 4.4. Besides I find that dolphin's flash support is not always the best, i like having a few browsers because I find certain browsers handle certain sites flash better. My biggest concern is if I power the device off will I be forced to update since my nexus 7 has already downloaded but not installed the update. Im perfectly fine with 4.3 except the touch issues when the n7 is not plugged in or in my hands....grounding issue I believe?
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Dolphin use their own engine
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Maybe, but WebKit is removed anyway...
https://dolphinbrowser.desk.com/cus...-in-android-4-4-how-do-i-enable-flash-player-
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 7 mit Tapatalk 4
Also if I did a factory reset would that force me to 4.4?
northernassassin said:
Also if I did a factory reset would that force me to 4.4?
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Nope...
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
northernassassin said:
I got the notification that the kitkat update was downloaded but after reading there is no flash support I have absolutely no interest in installibg this update. I got a nexus 7 over an iPad solely because I could use flash which is the only game in town on many sites I visit regularly. I got rid of the notification by unchecking notifications in the framework app but I'm worried if my tablet reboots/powers off that I will forced to update before it starts up. Please tell me this is not the case? Also is there a way to delete the download period, even if it's not installed I'd rather it not eating up limited memory that I have.
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The one way that I know of how to stop an OTA update first requires that you be rooted. If so you can use an app called Autostarts. Open the app go to Menu click on "Group by application." Scroll down to "Google Services Framework" and click on that. At the top you will see 4 "After Startup" entries. Click on the third "After Startup" entry from the top. In the popup window you should see "SystemUpdateService$Receiver" in the description, that's the one you want to disable. To delete the update I'm not 100% positive but I'm thinking if you delete the cache from Google Services Framework that will delete the update. Or Settings/Storage and click on "Cached data." Honestly, those are guesses because it's been a longtime since I've had to do that! SD Maid Pro will delete the update also but that app also requires root. After flashing the 4.4 factory image when it first came out I went back to 4.3 until I find a replacement for the AOSP Browser, damn it google!
Edit: Decided three weeks ago to give Dolphin another try, installed on my N5 with a hacked version of the flash player and it's working great! Used the factory image to flash 4.4.2 on the N7 and installed Dolphin Browser which now has the Jetpack built-in and it works well! Dolphin Browser with hacked flash player.
northernassassin said:
Not from what I've read, read on this site an official statement from dolphin saying flash wasn't supported on 4.4. Besides I find that dolphin's flash support is not always the best, i like having a few browsers because I find certain browsers handle certain sites flash better. My biggest concern is if I power the device off will I be forced to update since my nexus 7 has already downloaded but not installed the update. Im perfectly fine with 4.3 except the touch issues when the n7 is not plugged in or in my hands....grounding issue I believe?
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I guess I misread the changelog
I'm still not clear as to whether I can power the device off safely without itnforcing me upgrade. I'd really hat to brick my n7 by losing flash support. Also where exactly is the update located so I could possible erase it?
northernassassin said:
I'm still not clear as to whether I can power the device off safely without itnforcing me upgrade. I'd really hat to brick my n7 by losing flash support. Also where exactly is the update located so I could possible erase it?
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It's the zip file in /cache. It will reappear though. Rename /system/etc/security/otacerts.zip. And then don't go into the updates screen again, it will trigger the download which is several hundred megabytes once more. You need to be rooted.
I used the method posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249350
You need to have root access, but it's worked for me so far.
airberger said:
I used the method posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249350
You need to have root access, but it's worked for me so far.
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Indeed, just installed this and after a reboot, the prompt has gone away and it tells me the system is up to date. Thanks. And another demonstration that people don't come here simply to get hold of custom roms!
Thanks for all the answers but nobody has yet to give a straight forward answer as to whether I will be forced to update if I reboot my n7. Sometimes I'm forced to reboot when I have a hang up and I'd hate to think when that day comes I'm going to be forced to update to kitkat. I'm also not rooted and would like to stay that way. I know to many of you it seems quite easy but everything I've read makes it seem very daunting and confusing. Kernels, bootloaders, Roms, flashing....its a lot more than I thought it would be when I went android.
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Thanks for all the answers but nobody has yet to give a straight forward answer as to whether I will be forced to update if I reboot my n7. Sometimes I'm forced to reboot when I have a hang up and I'd hate to think when that day comes I'm going to be forced to update to kitkat. I'm also not rooted and would like to stay that way. I know to many of you it seems quite easy but everything I've read makes it seem very daunting and confusing. Kernels, bootloaders, Roms, flashing....its a lot more than I thought it would be when I went android.
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I have rebooted many times while the update notification was present and never had the upgrade automatically applied.
I haven't rebooted into recovery though so I cannot say if what I said holds if you do that.
For me, I'd just add an empty line to /system/build.prop
It is an empty line so it is assured not to change any behavior and every OTA update will try and patch build.prop at which point it does a SHA1 checksum compare, finds your current build.prop has been modified, and stops the OTA before it even starts modifying a single file.
This assures you that if by accident you select the OTA to install, it won't actually do anything.
You can do similar things with other files, I just chose build.prop as an easy example.
northernassassin said:
Thanks for all the answers but nobody has yet to give a straight forward answer as to whether I will be forced to update if I reboot my n7. Sometimes I'm forced to reboot when I have a hang up and I'd hate to think when that day comes I'm going to be forced to update to kitkat. I'm also not rooted and would like to stay that way. I know to many of you it seems quite easy but everything I've read makes it seem very daunting and confusing. Kernels, bootloaders, Roms, flashing....its a lot more than I thought it would be when I went android.
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If you take your time and read instructions carefully its very easy to root a Nexus 7. Either way, why don't you just reboot it and see if it goes to 4.4 and then do a factory reset. That should bring you back to your out of box jelly bean. Of course you'd lose your data but you can back that all up.
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I deleted the update from /cache and got rid of the notification but if I go to system,about device,updates it still tells me the update is "downloaded and verified". How can I make it realize the update is no longer there?
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I got the notification that the kitkat update was downloaded but after reading there is no flash support I have absolutely no interest in installibg this update. I got a nexus 7 over an iPad solely because I could use flash which is the only game in town on many sites I visit regularly. I got rid of the notification by unchecking notifications in the framework app but I'm worried if my tablet reboots/powers off that I will forced to update before it starts up. Please tell me this is not the case? Also is there a way to delete the download period, even if it's not installed I'd rather it not eating up limited memory that I have.
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Flash now works on kitkat in dolphin: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548001
wantabe said:
The one way that I know of how to stop an OTA update first requires that you be rooted. If so you can use an app called Autostarts. Open the app go to Menu click on "Group by application." Scroll down to "Google Services Framework" and click on that. At the top you will see 4 "After Startup" entries. Click on the third "After Startup" entry from the top. In the popup window you should see "SystemUpdateService$Receiver" in the description, that's the one you want to disable. To delete the update I'm not 100% positive but I'm thinking if you delete the cache from Google Services Framework that will delete the update. Or Settings/Storage and click on "Cached data." Honestly, those are guesses because it's been a longtime since I've had to do that! SD Maid Pro will delete the update also but that app also requires root. After flashing the 4.4 factory image when it first came out I went back to 4.3 until I find a replacement for the AOSP Browser, damn it google!
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Hello, I did that ^^^^^^^^^^ using autostarts and checked it several times to be sure I had it correct.
All seemed good, except today an update from VZW went through on me and I didn't want it to. I looked in the cache dir and nothing was in there, yet the phone kept saying it wanted to install the update. I kept telling it not right now, but after awhile it had a mind of it's own and installed/updated anyhow. My VZW GS4 went from MJ7 to MK2 not even sure what changes it made, I'm still on JB 4.3 and I don't want KitKat 4.4
I don't understand how the update came through and where it was d/l to, I checked yet again and the "SystemUpdateService$Receiver" is disabled, exactly as shown in your pics. The broke my Root, but I still showed custom when it re-booted, so it wasn't too hard to establish Root again. Now I'm very worried that sooner or later they are going to push/force KitKat 4.4 to the S4 and I don't want it; I should have a choice to not accept it, it's my device that I paid for
Any ideas on this before KK 4.4 bites me?
Thanks

[Q] OTA file location

Forgot to disable OTA updates and my phone downloaded it and now I have this notification that doesn't go away. Looked around using ES file browser but I can't find the location out the OTA file so I can delete it.
Anyone know the location of the OTA?
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Forgot to disable OTA updates and my phone downloaded it and now I have this notification that doesn't go away. Looked around using ES file browser but I can't find the location out the OTA file so I can delete it.
Anyone know the location of the OTA?
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I'm one of the dummies that half-asleep clicked on the OTA update and am now softbricked. In looking around the potential solution threads I saw that long pressing the notification should dismiss it. Just a warning, I haven't tried fixing my phone as of yet, so I'm not sure if this advice is right.
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I'm one of the dummies that half-asleep clicked on the OTA update and am now softbricked. In looking around the potential solution threads I saw that long pressing the notification should dismiss it. Just a warning, I haven't tried fixing my phone as of yet, so I'm not sure if this advice is right.
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That sucks. Look for "I softbricked my T-Mobile G3" under the questions thread. I think there's 2 fixes in there if you haven't checked yet. Idk if they'll work for you but worth a try if haven't seen them yet.
I read an adb fix somewhere that supposedly came from the G2 forums that supposedly worked too.
Good luck!
I'm just going to wait to find the location to delete, don't want to try and ling click and some kind of earthquake or something happen and end up just single clicking it. Lol
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That sucks. Look for "I softbricked my T-Mobile G3" under the questions thread. I think there's 2 fixes in there if you haven't checked yet. Idk if they'll work for you but worth a try if haven't seen them yet.
I read an adb fix somewhere that supposedly came from the G2 forums that supposedly worked too.
Good luck!
I'm just going to wait to find the location to delete, don't want to try and ling click and some kind of earthquake or something happen and end up just single clicking it. Lol
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Yeah I saw the adb fix for the G2 and was hoping to have someone confirm that it is fine for the G3 too. I don't see why it wouldn't be, but I don't want to dig myself into a deeper hole.
Hope you find your answer!
valefour said:
Forgot to disable OTA updates and my phone downloaded it and now I have this notification that doesn't go away. Looked around using ES file browser but I can't find the location out the OTA file so I can delete it.
Anyone know the location of the OTA?
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You can freeze Update Center from Titanium Backup and that notification will go away. Forever.
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You can freeze Update Center from Titanium Backup and that notification will go away. Forever.
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I froze it and that thing still popped up. Thanks for trying though.
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I froze it and that thing still popped up. Thanks for trying though.
Sent from my LG-D851
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There are 3 tgings for you to freeze
Software Update
Update Center
App Updates
I had the same problem thats a solid fix and should be working on every occasion like that.
Long press on the notification to enter app info and from there turn off notifications
I just use "notification off" app > uncheck googleplayservices > to hide the annoying notification.
Hello, I have this weird thing after trying to update to V30c... I received OTA (~230mb), downloaded and pressed to install but nothing happens, it just reboots the phone without performing the upgrade. So what I did connected it to PC and updated via LG mobile tool don't know why but the size was (1.3GB) unfortunately after upgrading I still receive the notification which I don't need as I already upgraded via PC... Anyone knows how to solve this?
If you're rooted, you can use the 'disableService' app from playstore. Then System / Google Play Services / SystemUpdateService, uncheck it. Problem solved.
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There are 3 tgings for you to freeze
Software Update
Update Center
App Updates
I had the same problem thats a solid fix and should be working on every occasion like that.
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Only it doesn't solve the problem. Just froze it with TB, but the notice persists. D851 stock MM V30D rooted. Also have SystemUpdateService disabled via app disableService from playstore, which got rid of the OTA notices for OS versions, but won't disable this compatibility patch notification.
EDIT: Notification gone now, probably had to reboot for it to evaporate.
EDIT2: Came back a day or so later, so that method was a no-go for me. Didn't want to try the long press to see if it could be dismissed via option presented in response to that action

[Q] How allow update of ATT S3 4.1.2

I have an ATT S3 with 4.1.2 currently. It is rooted and has CWM recovery but still running stock OS.
I keep getting notifications of an OS OTA update to be installed, but it always fails. Can I get that to install by simply deleting the superuser app and selecting update option? Does the custom recovery also interfere?
Maybe the best way to ask is...
what would be the process I should use to get the update to install and get back to rooted/CWM?
I am no longer a "power user" and could easily live with the 4.1.2 OS, but the frequent 'demands' from ATT to install the update are bothersome.
Ota updates will only work with no root and a custom recovery.
Since you are on 4.1.2, you could flash stock 4.1.1, sim unlock, and run ota updates to 4.4.2. It's no the fastest but I feel it is the safest route.
movrshakr said:
I keep getting notifications of an OS OTA update to be installed, but it always fails. Can I get that to install by simply deleting the superuser app and selecting update option? Does the custom recovery also interfere?
Maybe the best way to ask is...
what would be the process I should use to get the update to install and get back to rooted/CWM?
I am no longer a "power user" and could easily live with the 4.1.2 OS, but the frequent 'demands' from ATT to install the update are bothersome.
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Ota updates will only work with no root and a custom recovery.
Since you are on 4.1.2, you could flash stock 4.1.1, sim unlock, and run ota updates to 4.4.2. It's no the fastest but I feel it is the safest route.
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OTA is typically the safest way to update (as with any update, official or otherwise, you proceed at your own risk and no one here is responsible should anything negative happen to your phone and its software). If you do not want to take the time to do so, or feel the process is too tedious, you should be able to freeze the AT&T software update with an app like Titanium Backup. This should stop the nagging to install an OTA update. I have utilized this method before and it has worked quite well for me in the past.
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...If you do not want to take the time to do so, or feel the process is too tedious, you should be able to freeze the AT&T software update with an app like Titanium Backup. This should stop the nagging to install an OTA update. I have utilized this method before and it has worked quite well for me in the past.
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I have TitaniumBackup. What is the app that needs to be frozen to stop the update nags?
I am kind of surprised that uninstalling the superuser app is not enough to allow the update.
"Ota updates will only work with no root and a custom recovery."
"Ota updates will only work with ... a custom recovery."
Really? Did you mean,
Ota updates will only work with no root and NO custom recovery?
movrshakr said:
I have TitaniumBackup. What is the app that needs to be frozen to stop the update nags?
I am kind of surprised that uninstalling the superuser app is not enough to allow the update.
"Ota updates will only work with no root and a custom recovery."
"Ota updates will only work with ... a custom recovery."
Really? Did you mean,
Ota updates will only work with no root and NO custom recovery?
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No root and no custom recovery is required for OTA updates.
movrshakr said:
I have TitaniumBackup. What is the app that needs to be frozen to stop the update nags?
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If I remember correctly it is called "software update" but it will definitely consist of those words. I know it can be done because I did it when I was on rooted stock 4.1.1 and 4.1.2. Once I froze it, I never got notified.
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aybarrap1 said:
If I remember correctly it is called "software update" but it will definitely consist of those words. I know it can be done because I did it when I was on rooted stock 4.1.1 and 4.1.2. Once I froze it, I never got notified.
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Gosh, I have looked repeatedly through the (long) list of installed things in TitaniumBackup "Overview of app storage use..." list (the screen from which you freeze things...
and I simply cannot find the OTA update app. Indeed I did not see anything with the word 'update' in it.
Hoping someone can help me specifically identify the app that needs to be frozen in an S1 to stop the auto updates.
They are driving me crazy. Even though they fail, they often happen at night and leave the phone screen ON, on a screen waiting for an input, and the battery is hot. Happened once when not plugged in and drained to autoshutoff, so I woke to a dead battery.
movrshakr said:
Gosh, I have looked repeatedly through the (long) list of installed things in TitaniumBackup "Overview of app storage use..." list (the screen from which you freeze things...
and I simply cannot find the OTA update app. Indeed I did not see anything with the word 'update' in it.
Hoping someone can help me specifically identify the app that needs to be frozen in an S1 to stop the auto updates.
They are driving me crazy. Even though they fail, they often happen at night and leave the phone screen ON, on a screen waiting for an input, and the battery is hot. Happened once when not plugged in and drained to autoshutoff, so I woke to a dead battery.
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It is there, I froze mine with Titanium Backup for about 18 months. It could be that the name is more like ATTUpdater. I also don't recall exactly because I have since installed a custom rom.
dawgdoc said:
It is there, I froze mine with Titanium Backup for about 18 months. It could be that the name is more like ATTUpdater. I also don't recall exactly because I have since installed a custom rom.
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You're right! Found it.
It was AT&T Software Update. I had missed it before because, in portrait mode, the 'pdate' part of the name was not visible, and it just had not registered as I looked through them. Thanks heaps.
movrshakr said:
You're right! Found it.
It was AT&T Software Update. I had missed it before because, in portrait mode, the 'pdate' part of the name was not visible, and it just had not registered as I looked through them. Thanks heaps.
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Glad to have been of service.

How to turn off update (OTA) notifications on rooted non-developer Verizon Note 4

I went through all the steps to unlock/root my Verizon Note 4. I _thought_ that included turning off all of the OTA/update stuff so that I wouldn't accidentally accept and update and destroy my hard work.
However, I got an update notification the other day, and it has persistently asked me to update every time I unlock the phone since.
How do I turn this off permanently?
Download Titanium Backup and disable system update.
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Download Titanium Backup and disable system update.
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Thank you. I was kinda hoping for a little more information. Which apps should be frozen to turn off the automatic updating? I thought I had everything that was OTA-related frozen already, but I obviously missed something. So I'm hoping to get a list of what I should check.
Tom2112 said:
Thank you. I was kinda hoping for a little more information. Which apps should be frozen to turn off the automatic updating? I thought I had everything that was OTA-related frozen already, but I obviously missed something. So I'm hoping to get a list of what I should check.
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USE TITANIUM TO FREEZE "System updates 1.0" , there are two of them next to each other in the program list. Then go into TWRP recovery and wipe cache.
Thank you! I had missed one of those two. Now they're both frozen and problem solved.

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