Battery won't charge past 66% (and getting worse)! - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

I've read a bunch of threads but haven't found a solution to my particular problem.
I've had my Nexus since April, and all was fine until about 3-4 weeks ago when I noticed that no matter how long I left the phone charging it wouldn't go past 88%. Getting married in August and working a lot of overtime, I have been frustrated by this issue but have done nothing about it, so over time I've been watching as it was maxing out at 84%, then 80% then 76%, 74%, 72%, 70%...it now will not charge past 66% and by the end of the week it will probably be 62%!
So, I have tried three different chargers (one that came with Nexus, the one tht came with my fiancee's HTC One X, and a no name). I have replaced the battery (a friend has the same phone with a spare battery). Nothing changes. This is clearly not the "well it reaches 100% and then stops charging even while plugged in to save the battery" thing that most threads talk about. It's not the charger and it's not the battery.
It's the phone (or the software). I'm not positive I even understand what "rooting" a phone is so it's safe to say that it is not rooted. It is an out of the box Galaxy Nexus that has only had official updates (currently running Jelly Bean but the problem did begin before it updated from ICS).
I'm praying for a solution as I bought the phone in Hong Kong, and therefor cannot return it.

DynoNobel said:
I've read a bunch of threads but haven't found a solution to my particular problem.
I've had my Nexus since April, and all was fine until about 3-4 weeks ago when I noticed that no matter how long I left the phone charging it wouldn't go past 88%. Getting married in August and working a lot of overtime, I have been frustrated by this issue but have done nothing about it, so over time I've been watching as it was maxing out at 84%, then 80% then 76%, 74%, 72%, 70%...it now will not charge past 66% and by the end of the week it will probably be 62%!
So, I have tried three different chargers (one that came with Nexus, the one tht came with my fiancee's HTC One X, and a no name). I have replaced the battery (a friend has the same phone with a spare battery). Nothing changes. This is clearly not the "well it reaches 100% and then stops charging even while plugged in to save the battery" thing that most threads talk about. It's not the charger and it's not the battery.
It's the phone (or the software). I'm not positive I even understand what "rooting" a phone is so it's safe to say that it is not rooted. It is an out of the box Galaxy Nexus that has only had official updates (currently running Jelly Bean but the problem did begin before it updated from ICS).
I'm praying for a solution as I bought the phone in Hong Kong, and therefor cannot return it.
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Your mistake was most likely your purchasing location.
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Fire n mage said:
Your mistake was most likely your purchasing location.
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Well it's not exactly like I bought it from a mom and pop shop or from the guy with a suitcase on the corner. It was purchased from Fortress, which is a subsidiary of Hutchison Whampoa which is an international conglomerate that operates in the US, Canada, and all over Europe as well. Don't confuse Hong Kong with mainland China, there is no difference in quality between this phone and one purchased in USA

Did battery calibration help at all? I'm starting to think that either the software is showing a wrong percentage (which in case you can calibrate it) or you have to get it checked.

kyokeun1234 said:
Did battery calibration help at all? I'm starting to think that either the software is showing a wrong percentage (which in case you can calibrate it) or you have to get it checked.
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I downloaded a calibration app, and realized the phone needs to be rooted. The app said that it would only calibrate the phone when it was in a 100% charged state.
The default battery meter said 66%, app called power circle said 66%, and the battery calibration app said 66%

DynoNobel said:
I downloaded a calibration app, and realized the phone needs to be rooted. The app said that it would only calibrate the phone when it was in a 100% charged state.
The default battery meter said 66%, app called power circle said 66%, and the battery calibration app said 66%
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Ok you can calibrate the battery status by draining the battery until the power turns off and then just turn it on again (while charging obviously) and then charge it to the max and then hopefully it charges to 100%
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kyokeun1234 said:
Ok you can calibrate the battery status by draining the battery until the power turns off and then just turn it on again (while charging obviously) and then charge it to the max and then hopefully it charges to 100%
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Oh, ya I definitely did that, more than once, with both batteries. I let it completely die on it's own (which isn't hard as the battery life is noticeably shorter since it won't charge all the way). I also let it drain to 1% and then charged it full. I tried draining until it shut itself off and then charging it full while it was shut off, and then again with it powered on during charging. Whether on or off, it continues to tell me it is charging, but never reaches higher than the numbers i posted above (currently 66%).

DynoNobel said:
Oh, ya I definitely did that, more than once, with both batteries. I let it completely die on it's own (which isn't hard as the battery life is noticeably shorter since it won't charge all the way). I also let it drain to 1% and then charged it full. I tried draining until it shut itself off and then charging it full while it was shut off, and then again with it powered on during charging. Whether on or off, it continues to tell me it is charging, but never reaches higher than the numbers i posted above (currently 66%).
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dial *#*#4636#*#* and go to "Battery... something" and check what it says at Battery health

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dial *#*#4636#*#* and go to "Battery... something" and check what it says at Battery health
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Says:
Battery Status: Discharging
Power plug: Unplugged
Battery Level: 40
Scale: 100
Health: Good
Voltage: 3603 mV
Temperature: 35.0 C
Technology: Li-ion
Time Since Boot: 53:52:47
I will try this again once I've gotten home and charged it all the way (back to 66%...) and have it plugged in when I input the code

DynoNobel said:
Says:
Battery Status: Discharging
Power plug: Unplugged
Battery Level: 40
Scale: 100
Health: Good
Voltage: 3603 mV
Temperature: 35.0 C
Technology: Li-ion
Time Since Boot: 53:52:47
I will try this again once I've gotten home and charged it all the way (back to 66%...) and have it plugged in when I input the code
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you can still calibrate your battery with this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5uZW1hLmJhdHRlcnljYWxpYnJhdGlvbiJd
just untick wait til 100% if your battery is still coming up odd
it definitely sounds like a software issue to me

I'm having exactly the same problem. My phone was purchased in a different country and had several different firmwares (we've used it for kernel development) so it's not under warranty anymore.
At some point I flashed the stock firmware (it was 4.0.2 back then) from Google's website and started using it as a normal phone. Everything was fine until at some point (somewhere in September) I noticed it stopped charging past 89%. After that I saw this figure go all the way down to 39% and that's where it is now. It charges to 39 within an hour or so, then the charging status while being plugged says "not charging". If I leave it like this it can go to 60 over a few more hours, in this case if I go into charging status I can sometimes see "Charging (USB)" which basically means lower charging current (seems like some kind of trickle charge situation).
I think that it started after I saw a different charging glitch (that one is quite popular on the Internet) - when the phone doesn't see that it's plugged I fixed that one with bending the USB "tongue".
I've tried switching the battery with a properly working GN phone - my device sees a different charge level than the working phone. The working phone had shown 95% on my battery and 90% on its own battery. My phone had shown somewhat like 35 and 30 respectively.
I've tried multiple different stock firmwares (4.1, 4.1.1, 4.2.1). I've tried full reset with data wipe and clean firmware load a number of times. I've tried battery stats reset, battery pull, full discharge (in bootloader and another phone) - nothing helps.
It looks like the phone detects the current battery charge incorrectly and while the circuitry prevents the battery from overcharging and turns off charging when the battery is at full capacity, the software for some reason sees 39% instead of 99% and thus turns off the phone when it sees 0 (and it's really somewhere around 60%).
The two things that I haven't tried were flashing a different kernel (CM? AOKP?) and replacing the USB port board.
I don't want to mess around with different kernels because I don't really believe that it'll help, but I did order the USB board.
I'd appreciate if someone with similar problem shared their experiences.
P.S.: Just took my *#*#4636#*#* battery info screen: it sees that it's at 24%, sees that it's plugged into AC and it's not charging.
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This is strange. I posted a thread a while back about the same issue. Theres also another one too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080383
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2059289
Everyone's seems to have gone through every possible combination of chargers, batteries, roms, kernels...idk to me it's just freaky that these threads (which i never recall seeing ANY outlining the same issue) suddenly are popping up. Mine started soon after i flashed my first 4.2 rom. my battery info also reports similarly to what others are saying (good health, 100 scale, 3.9v). i just think its very strange that more and more people are complaining of this.
another side note, whenever im using my phone while its plugged in, the battery seems to drain pretty quickly (even though it is saying ac-charging). anyone else getting this too?

crowmallet said:
This is strange. I posted a thread a while back about the same issue. Theres also another one too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080383
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2059289
Everyone's seems to have gone through every possible combination of chargers, batteries, roms, kernels...idk to me it's just freaky that these threads (which i never recall seeing ANY outlining the same issue) suddenly are popping up. Mine started soon after i flashed my first 4.2 rom. my battery info also reports similarly to what others are saying (good health, 100 scale, 3.9v). i just think its very strange that more and more people are complaining of this.
another side note, whenever im using my phone while its plugged in, the battery seems to drain pretty quickly (even though it is saying ac-charging). anyone else getting this too?
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Hey, thanks for pointing out those threads, looks like they all describe the same issue. I guess, a moderator needs to unite them or something.
When I'm using an AC plugged phone - the battery drain seems to be of similar scale as charging in WiFi web browsing scenario. If I'm streaming a high-res video over WiFi, sometime the drain is higher than charge rate and it dies even being plugged, saw that a couple of times.
If I'm using it as a GPS in a car, it drains faster than it charges with a regular auto charger (not sure of its amperage), however I haven't checked this scenario before the problems with charge started.
To address my experience with the issues mentioned in other threads:
- I tried my stock battery in another gnex that doesn't have the problem - that phone saw a different charge level in my battery from what my phone had been showing. Also my phone had shown incorrect value for the other battery which leads me to believe that it's not a battery issue.
- I had the thought that dirt and dust in the connections might be an issue. I disassembled the phone (following this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sD6LRfJHSk), checked and cleaned all the connections (not with alcohol, though). Except for the inside of the USB port all the internals were pretty clean to begin with. The procedure didn't solve the problem.
Now, the only suspect I have remaining is the charging circuitry. I have ordered this part http://cnn.cn/shop/samsung-i9250-galaxy-nexus-microusb-connector-flex-cable-p-15348.html (also available on ebay) and will see if it will solve the problem. Luckily it's fairly easy to replace, requires no soldering (though it does require to disassemble the phone completely).

Corvin666 said:
Hey, thanks for pointing out those threads, looks like they all describe the same issue. I guess, a moderator needs to unite them or something.
When I'm using an AC plugged phone - the battery drain seems to be of similar scale as charging in WiFi web browsing scenario. If I'm streaming a high-res video over WiFi, sometime the drain is higher than charge rate and it dies even being plugged, saw that a couple of times.
If I'm using it as a GPS in a car, it drains faster than it charges with a regular auto charger (not sure of its amperage), however I haven't checked this scenario before the problems with charge started.
To address my experience with the issues mentioned in other threads:
- I tried my stock battery in another gnex that doesn't have the problem - that phone saw a different charge level in my battery from what my phone had been showing. Also my phone had shown incorrect value for the other battery which leads me to believe that it's not a battery issue.
- I had the thought that dirt and dust in the connections might be an issue. I disassembled the phone (following this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sD6LRfJHSk), checked and cleaned all the connections (not with alcohol, though). Except for the inside of the USB port all the internals were pretty clean to begin with. The procedure didn't solve the problem.
Now, the only suspect I have remaining is the charging circuitry. I have ordered this part http://cnn.cn/shop/samsung-i9250-galaxy-nexus-microusb-connector-flex-cable-p-15348.html (also available on ebay) and will see if it will solve the problem. Luckily it's fairly easy to replace, requires no soldering (though it does require to disassemble the phone completely).
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Really hoping you figure this out. After spending far too long trying to fix mine, I broke down and replaced it. It is currently a paper-weight. When plugged in it says it is charging, but won't go past 0%. I plugged it in on the weekend for approx 30 hours and upon unplugging it immediately shut down. I have an external battery charger and two batteries and I can charge the battery full and put it back in the phone and it will still say 0%.
If it means anything to anybody, this problem starting happening to my phone when it was in stock condition (hadn't been unlocked or rooted) but after it was updated to 4.2 through the standard consumer method of updating.

DynoNobel said:
Really hoping you figure this out. After spending far too long trying to fix mine, I broke down and replaced it. It is currently a paper-weight. When plugged in it says it is charging, but won't go past 0%. I plugged it in on the weekend for approx 30 hours and upon unplugging it immediately shut down. I have an external battery charger and two batteries and I can charge the battery full and put it back in the phone and it will still say 0%.
If it means anything to anybody, this problem starting happening to my phone when it was in stock condition (hadn't been unlocked or rooted) but after it was updated to 4.2 through the standard consumer method of updating.
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Well I've finally given up. I broke down and bought another battery on amazon (samsung verizon oem one) with near certainty it wouldn't help. It didn't. I've been running stock now and I'm going into the Verizon store tomorrow to see what they can do (if anything). I'm sure they will give me the run around though (oh its probably just the battery etc).

Corvin666 said:
Now, the only suspect I have remaining is the charging circuitry. I have ordered this part (also available on ebay) and will see if it will solve the problem. Luckily it's fairly easy to replace, requires no soldering (though it does require to disassemble the phone completely).
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Did you have any success with replacing this part?

leadthrower21 said:
Did you have any success with replacing this part?
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I'm still waiting for it to arrive. I live in Eastern Europe and mail is really crappy here.

same story for me
Corvin666 said:
I'm having exactly the same problem. My phone was purchased in a different country and had several different firmwares (we've used it for kernel development) so it's not under warranty anymore.
At some point I flashed the stock firmware (it was 4.0.2 back then) from Google's website and started using it as a normal phone. Everything was fine until at some point (somewhere in September) I noticed it stopped charging past 89%. After that I saw this figure go all the way down to 39% and that's where it is now. It charges to 39 within an hour or so, then the charging status while being plugged says "not charging". If I leave it like this it can go to 60 over a few more hours, in this case if I go into charging status I can sometimes see "Charging (USB)" which basically means lower charging current (seems like some kind of trickle charge situation).
I think that it started after I saw a different charging glitch (that one is quite popular on the Internet) - when the phone doesn't see that it's plugged I fixed that one with bending the USB "tongue".
I've tried switching the battery with a properly working GN phone - my device sees a different charge level than the working phone. The working phone had shown 95% on my battery and 90% on its own battery. My phone had shown somewhat like 35 and 30 respectively.
I've tried multiple different stock firmwares (4.1, 4.1.1, 4.2.1). I've tried full reset with data wipe and clean firmware load a number of times. I've tried battery stats reset, battery pull, full discharge (in bootloader and another phone) - nothing helps.
It looks like the phone detects the current battery charge incorrectly and while the circuitry prevents the battery from overcharging and turns off charging when the battery is at full capacity, the software for some reason sees 39% instead of 99% and thus turns off the phone when it sees 0 (and it's really somewhere around 60%).
The two things that I haven't tried were flashing a different kernel (CM? AOKP?) and replacing the USB port board.
I don't want to mess around with different kernels because I don't really believe that it'll help, but I did order the USB board.
I'd appreciate if someone with similar problem shared their experiences.
P.S.: Just took my *#*#4636#*#* battery info screen: it sees that it's at 24%, sees that it's plugged into AC and it's not charging.
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Same story for me. Exact same issue. Ive flashed roms (CM, PA, Unique, Minco) and the issue does not go away. I did change the USB board. It did not help. I think too that the circuitry prevents the battery from overcharging. Battery Indicator App says FULLY CHARGED even when android reports 0% charge.
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Corvin666 said:
I'm still waiting for it to arrive. I live in Eastern Europe and mail is really crappy here.
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I have the same problem. Ive replaced the board 2 times. It does not help

Got my USB board today, replaced it and it didn't help. Short of changing the mainboard, I'm out of ideas

I'm having this same problem. Purchases a Nexus off Craiglist the other day (with forwarning of this battery problem) and figured I could fix it easily with a new ROM or by wiping battery stats. Unfortunately nothing I try seems to have any effect. I've used different batteries and charged them fully with an external charger. As soon as I put them in this phone they read 64%. So Frustrating!!!!

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Galaxy Nexus won't charge past 89%

Hey guys,
I've tried Googling this problem but haven't found any real info or a solution. I have a Verizon Galaxy Nexus with the official 210o mAh battery. For the life of me, I can't get it to charge anywhere close to 100%, not even 95%. It seems to stop right at 89%. I'll leave it on the charger at night and when I wake up, it's always showing 89%. If I go into the battery info , it will say 89% not charging. Is there any way I can get it to charge into the 90's? I'm sure it's not a software issue since I've seen this on AOKP b40 and M6 as well as Jelly Belly 3.4 and 3.9.
Wipe battery stats, re calibrate the battery, it could be a kernel problem, completly drain battery and recharge to full with phone turned off. These would be my course of actions. If all else fails maybe replace the battery.
phatmanxxl said:
Wipe battery stats, re calibrate the battery, it could be a kernel problem, drain battery and recharge to full with phone turned off. These would be my course of actions.
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Thanks. I've tried different kernels (faux, franco, trinity, lean) and I still see the problem. I haven't tried wiping battery stats/recalibrating since I've read it doesn't really do anything, but I guess it's worth a shot.
johnan2112 said:
Thanks. I've tried different kernels (faux, franco, trinity, lean) and I still see the problem. I haven't tried wiping battery stats/recalibrating since I've read it doesn't really do anything, but I guess it's worth a shot.
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If this phone is anything like the SGS2 wiping stats does nothing.
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johnan2112 said:
Thanks. I've tried different kernels (faux, franco, trinity, lean) and I still see the problem. I haven't tried wiping battery stats/recalibrating since I've read it doesn't really do anything, but I guess it's worth a shot.
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It might just be the battery itself, I wouldn't know what else to do
phatmanxxl said:
It might just be the battery itself, I wouldn't know what else to do
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It might be. I might put in the standard battery tonight, charge it up and see if it hits 100% (or as close as it will get to 100%) when I wake up in the morning.
You can't calibrate a battery and wiping stats does nothing...
I wish people would stop spreading this false info
crixley said:
You can't calibrate a battery and wiping stats does nothing...
I wish people would stop spreading this false info
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This, battery is faulty, get a new one
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try a different charger?
OK, so I'm seeing the same issue with the standard 1850 mAh battery. Stuck at 89% on the charger and the battery stats says "not charging" while it's on the charger. I've tried the standard Gnex OEM charger, my wife's SGS3 charger and my old Droid X charger and all say the same thing. So strange...
johnan2112 said:
OK, so I'm seeing the same issue with the standard 1850 mAh battery. Stuck at 89% on the charger and the battery stats says "not charging" while it's on the charger. I've tried the standard Gnex OEM charger, my wife's SGS3 charger and my old Droid X charger and all say the same thing. So strange...
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Maybe an issue with the connect port? Do you just rip the cord out?
No, of course not. Plus, if it was an issue with the micro USB connection, wouldn't it simply not charge altogether?
johnan2112 said:
No, of course not. Plus, if it was an issue with the micro USB connection, wouldn't it simply not charge altogether?
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I had an old Droid X that wouldnt charge past a certain point but I could fully charge my battery in my girlfriends X with the same charger so i dunno
Tested on different phones
Here's my issue I got since I rooted and flashed JRO03C Jelly Bean Rom.
Since then I've tried many roms, battery calibration (that I learned, does nothing), tried many "fixes" like disabling everything while charging, realingning the usb pins...
The fact is that : My battery is actually charged 100%, but shows from 74% to 86% (depending on the rom).
If I take my battery and put it in another Galaxy Nexus that hasn't been rooted, it gets 100%.
If I take a 100% battery from that unrooted Galaxy Nexus and put it in mine, it shows only 74% to 86%.
Sometimes, the battery gains % while I use it (It's a 74% when It's not charging anymore, half an hour later it shows 76%)
I don't seem to have lost any life time, but here's the problem as I see it.
Either my phone cannot properly analyse de output of the battery, or there is sont slack connectors inside the phone that actually dont get 100% output from the battery.
Take it to Verizon, show them, and they will give you a replacement.
I'm having the same issue as the OP, my battery was fine until about a few weeks ago. Nothing changed as far as ROM or kernel go. I have the Seidio 3800 though. My phone just refuses to charge completely even when turned off and charging. The animation for charging that last little bit literally stays on forever. I left it on the charger for almost 8 hours after this really started to bug me, and upon turning it on I was greeted with 88% and it quickly dropped to the mid 70%'s where it floats out for a long while. This is my second battery from Seidio, the first didn't work with NFC and charged too 100% just fine. The OEM battery will no longer charge completely either.
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I'm having the same issue as the OP, my battery was fine until about a few weeks ago. Nothing changed as far as ROM or kernel go. I have the Seidio 3800 though. My phone just refuses to charge completely even when turned off and charging. The animation for charging that last little bit literally stays on forever. I left it on the charger for almost 8 hours after this really started to bug me, and upon turning it on I was greeted with 88% and it quickly dropped to the mid 70%'s where it floats out for a long while. This is my second battery from Seidio, the first didn't work with NFC and charged too 100% just fine. The OEM battery will no longer charge completely either.
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You used a non-nfc battery in your phone? HUGE no no.
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http://www.talkandroid.com/77193-nf...s-battery-secure-tokens-may-cause-nfc-issues/
http://www.galaxynexusforum.com/for...-interchangeable-between-hspa-lte-models.html
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s2-t/430774-non-oem-battery-upgrade.html
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You used a non-nfc battery in your phone? HUGE no no.
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Yeah, as relevant as your post is, no. My batteries have all been NFC capable, one was defective and didn't work. I don't even know why you posted all of that, the last two links weren't even relevant to your point. I think the whole NFC token thing is fooey anyway.
The issue at hand here is my battery life being miserable and reported very incorrectly for virtually no reason at all.
Relevant because it also has to do with chargers used if they don't have same voltage as original or it messes up the nfc. Just saying the batteries, phones, and chargers have to be the ones they can with. Also same info on Samsung site, fine print at bottom. Anyway, just trying to help because I had same problem and don't anymore.
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Relevant because it also has to do with chargers used if they don't have same voltage as original or it messes up the nfc. Just saying the batteries, phones, and chargers have to be the ones they can with. Also same info on Samsung site, fine print at bottom. Anyway, just trying to help because I had same problem and don't anymore.
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I'm using the OEM charger and cable, always have.
Your first link goes to a Verizon image talking about a possible less than stellar experience with NFC on the Gnex with using other batteries. The second link talks about compatibility of batteries between the GSM and CDMA version of the Gnex. The last link isn't even about the Galaxy Nexus, it's the GSII. None of them mention chargers/voltages/messing up NFC.
Edit: Back to the task at hand, I was just wondering if the OP ever got his battery life figured out, or if he just replaced the thing.

Battery Sudden Drops

Dear all,
Recently my Note is facing a weird problem. While my son is playing a game, the battery drops 20-30% in 10 minutes. If I shut down the tablet and re-power then the battery goes to normal again.
In the battery stats I can see a huge drop during game usage and then up again on reboot.
I performed a factory reset but the same happens....
I flashed the Kit Kat via Odin.... but the same
Any ideas?
Drain the battery down to below 5% then charge it to 100 and it should be fine. It happened to me once and after a full charge after a full drain it never did it again
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toyanucci said:
Drain the battery down to below 5% then charge it to 100 and it should be fine. It happened to me once and after a full charge after a full drain it never did it again
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This is what worries me.
I drained the battery and charged it fully powered off. It did it again. I drained the battery and charged it fully powered on. It did it again.
If I'm using it for browsing, papyrus, images etc its fine. This happens only in games and when i reboot the battery percentage is ok again.
strange....
STELIOSFAN said:
This is what worries me.
I drained the battery and charged it fully powered off. It did it again. I drained the battery and charged it fully powered on. It did it again.
If I'm using it for browsing, papyrus, images etc its fine. This happens only in games and when i reboot the battery percentage is ok again.
strange....
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I had the exact same problem as you are describing but additionally, my overall battery life wasn't lasting as long as it should either. I ended up sending it to Samsung's repair center to get fixed. I'm not sure what they did but some other people on the forums suggested it was a motherboard issue.
So the capacity of the battery seemed just fine but the readings were crazy (dropping from 50 to 5 in minutes and then on reboot back on 50).
After 2-3 full cycles of charging nothing changed. Flashed fw nothing changed. Went to Samsung service and they just informed me that they changed the battery and now performing final checks.
Hope this will solve the issue. I'm too lucky that I am in the "6 months warranty" window for battery...
How does one go about sending it into Samsung? After getting it back, did you see a significant change?
I've been debating doing this but wasn't sure how to go about it.
I haven't got it back yet. They just called me and they said that apart from the battery, they need to change another part (the telephone operator didn't know which part) and I'm going to receive it tomorrow.
So I'll let you know once I receive it.
STELIOSFAN said:
Dear all,
Recently my Note is facing a weird problem. While my son is playing a game, the battery drops 20-30% in 10 minutes. If I shut down the tablet and re-power then the battery goes to normal again.
In the battery stats I can see a huge drop during game usage and then up again on reboot.
I performed a factory reset but the same happens....
I flashed the Kit Kat via Odin.... but the same
Any ideas?
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Did you fix the problem ? I have the same problem and i don't know how to fix it. (i am with 4.3 not rooted).
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Did you fix the problem ? I have the same problem and i don't know how to fix it. (i am with 4.3 not rooted).
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After trying everything (flashing different roms via odin, factory reset, full battery cycles etc) the problem never went away.
Went to Samsung service. They checked the battery and had to replace it.... within the warranty.
Same issue here. Just got an email saying its fixed. They changed the charging port and lcd. Weird that they replaced the lcd.
Well I got it back. Seems they broke the s pen function when taking it out or putting in. The tablet thinks it's always out of its slot. I guess another 2 weeks without this thing. What a pain in the ass. Times like this makes me wish I bought an ipad where I could just walk into the store and get it fixed that day.
I had the same problem. I sent it back on Monday and got it back 7 days later. They did not say what they changed, but now everything is working fine. I even got a new usb cable and a magnetic Germany flag
I sent mine in for an overheating problem and they changed the charging port and gave me a new cable. I initially also had the random drops in battery but seems to be better now.. They said bad voltage going to charging the battery or something. Still have overheating so gotta send it in again?
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So guys did you get it fixed? I have exactly the same problem. I have sent it to fix at the sam service - they changed the charging port, but it didn't help anything. 1,5 years of normal usage and now I can pretty much throw it into the toilet. God damn POS!
Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 battery drops
Hello all,
Just wanted to inform you all that I have been experiencing these battery drops (yesterday from 93% to a mere 5% in a matter of minutes) for a very long time now. I am running under the latest 4.4.2 stock firmware.
Also, battery life is way below par (understatement !), where the Note sometimes drops to around or below 5% (the magic number below which the screen starts to dim pretty dramatically and there's no way to influence that)
Funny thing is that after the battery drops to below 5% or even 1 or 2%, it's still possible to use the tablet for quite a number of hours afterwards, which suggests it may be something with the logic estimating/determining the remaining battery capacity, rather than the battery itself....)
Now I've tried draining the battery and fully recharging it multiple times/ resetting the stats using free apps / revert to factory settings etc.
All to no avail unfortunately, this problem simply keeps coming back.
(By the way: Apart from the battery and battery life, the Note is an excellent device, and delivers as promised.
Please also note that charging it through the microUSB cable is also simple, stable and relatively fast, unless you compare it of course to my all new Samsung Galaxy Note 4, which has a superior fast charge mode and offers the highest possible battery-life at this moment and easily beats any other smartphone (including the usual suspects from that Cupertino-based firm of which I can't force my mind to remember the name of.....) in this price-quality and performance category )
As for warranty:
Battery is no longer under warranty, the device itself is.
As such, I will now get the battery replaced by a new Samsung OEM-battery first, and see if that resolves the issue.
If it doesn't help, I will send it in for repair for Samsung.
I will keep you all informed on the resolution and cause.
Likewise, if there's anyone that has gotten to the root cause of this issue, please let me / let us know
Some users reported some 'magic part' OTHER than the battery itself (motherboard / charging circuit or even the lcd ??) having been replaced by Samsung after sending it in for repair.
That information could be very valuable to us all in trying to get Samsung to resolve the issue, so I would really appreciate it if someone would share this info in this thread.
Hey I know that there hasn't been much activity on this particular thread, but i too have been experiencing this problem for over a year now. I sent it into samsung twice and it still never fixed the issue and by the time i was going to send it in the 3rd time it was out of warranty. I personally removed the back cover and unplugged the battery for a while and that did not help. I have tried flashing different ROMS and kernels to no avail until last week. I flashed Temasek's Unofficial Build found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...t/lt03wifi-temaseks-unofficial-build-t2980604 and after 3 full power cycles i have not had a single random drop yet i even managed to go 3 days with 6 hours of screen on time which is a record for me with this device. Not sure if it will help everyone but this seems to have solved my problem and i am thrilled! Also (as embarrassing as it is) i played 2.5 hours of Clash of Clans straight without a single random drop either.
I am beginning to have the issue as well on my P605v. Has there been any progress with your battery replacement? @mroset
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I am beginning to have the issue as well on my P605v. Has there been any progress with your battery replacement? @mroset
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Hello KwestJones,
I've successfully replaced the battery in the Note 10.1 2014, and it has improved things. With a little care, this is easy to do. Just removing the battery connector is a bit typical, you need to lift it carefully and slightly to remove it.
The result is not as drastic of an improvement as I would like to have seen, but at least the sudden drops in battery capacity percentage seem to be under control now.
I am doing a video test now, and will see how it behaves and let you know.
BR,
Maarten
Very curious to hear if replacing the battery corrected this issue. I've been experiencing this same battery drop issue for 2 or 3 months and the unit is well outside of warranty. Hoping there's a simpler fix, but willing to replace the battery if that will work since the tablet itself is still a great unit.
Complete factory reset should clear the Android Coulometer's data base or learning algorithm. Just clearing options of Battery Monitor Widget for rooted devices won't help. There are some other apps, which seem to help if the charge level never reaches 100%, a related, but not identical problem.
I have an old tablet suffering from this, with a tweaked custom rom, and i didn't want to clear and setup that completely. The algorithm or database is "learning" again, and the capacity jumps have become fewer and smaller over the last months. It should depend on how long the device was used and never reset before the incident. In my case over a year.
Itvs much like my cars fuel calculator, which won't work correctly during traffic light stops. Right after starting the engine, fuel consumption can raise several liters/h, when the car don't drive, as it uses the last sampled value(every 30 meters). And you need several kilometers to drive to have these levels drop to realistic ones again. While after a long driving distance, a traffic light stop will hardly have an influence.

[DISCUSSION] Use stock ROM for your battery's health

Hello everybody.
I just want to share with you guys what I found out.
I've been using custom ROMs and custom kernels for LG V30, and I faced a lot of issues. The most common issue is overheating, especially on charging or using mobile data.
I use Anker's adapter that supports Quick Charge 3.0, and an Anker USB-C to USB-3.0 cable. I use Ampere app to see how the battery is charge.
On custom ROMs, the ampere number (mA) changes every few seconds, jumps up and down with big gap, and the phone gets very hot.
On stock ROM (US99820H) in my case, mA number is very stable. It increases or decreases slowly and doesn't jump up and down. On plugging in, min and max mA are equal. The phone is just a little bit hotter than before plugging in.
So I just wanted to share my own experience with you guys. If you want you phone to last long, use Stock ROMs, disable bloatwares and useless system apps.
I'm going to purchase the battery and change it myself for better battery life. I wanted to change to another phone but for now, this is the best phone for music.
Please discuss if you disagree with me or have a solution for custom ROMs.
minhntp said:
Hello everybody.
I just want to share with you guys what I found out.
I've been using custom ROMs and custom kernels for LG V30, and I faced a lot of issues. The most common issue is overheating, especially on charging or using mobile data.
I use Anker's adapter that supports Quick Charge 3.0, and an Anker USB-C to USB-3.0 cable. I use Ampere app to see how the battery is charge.
On custom ROMs, the ampere number (mA) changes every few seconds, jumps up and down with big gap, and the phone gets very hot.
On stock ROM (US99820H) in my case, mA number is very stable. It increases or decreases slowly and doesn't jump up and down. On plugging in, min and max mA are equal. The phone is just a little bit hotter than before plugging in.
So I just wanted to share my own experience with you guys. If you want you phone to last long, use Stock ROMs, disable bloatwares and useless system apps.
I'm going to purchase the battery and change it myself for better battery life. I wanted to change to another phone but for now, this is the best phone for music.
Please discuss if you disagree with me or have a solution for custom ROMs.
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I also felt the same...Though the charging speed on custom roms is higher...in terms of stability of current, Stock Rom is the best.
minhntp said:
Hello everybody.
I just want to share with you guys what I found out.
I've been using custom ROMs and custom kernels for LG V30, and I faced a lot of issues. The most common issue is overheating, especially on charging or using mobile data.
I use Anker's adapter that supports Quick Charge 3.0, and an Anker USB-C to USB-3.0 cable. I use Ampere app to see how the battery is charge.
On custom ROMs, the ampere number (mA) changes every few seconds, jumps up and down with big gap, and the phone gets very hot.
On stock ROM (US99820H) in my case, mA number is very stable. It increases or decreases slowly and doesn't jump up and down. On plugging in, min and max mA are equal. The phone is just a little bit hotter than before plugging in.
So I just wanted to share my own experience with you guys. If you want you phone to last long, use Stock ROMs, disable bloatwares and useless system apps.
I'm going to purchase the battery and change it myself for better battery life. I wanted to change to another phone but for now, this is the best phone for music.
Please discuss if you disagree with me or have a solution for custom ROMs.
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In terms of stability, I have different results, when I charge using a custom rom the phone tends to stay cool, but when I used the stock rom the phone got a lot hotter then before charging.
Custom ROMs may not be utilizing QC properly. QC 2.0 has few discrete voltage/current steps, while QC 3.0 has many (200mA increments iirc) designed to strike a balance between charging speed and heat. Maybe it's getting stuck in QC 2.0 mode and the temperature feedback isn't working properly?
You could just use a non-fast-charging wireless charger, if you're only charging up at night. 5v/~1A is pretty much harmless, it's just on the slow side of things.
fyi, battery capacity (as tracked by the charging controller driver, I guess) is stored at sys/class/power_supply/bms/charge_full; it defaults to design capacity until a full charge cycle has been completed* and then I suppose is revised each time the driver tracks less energy has been stored after a complete charge. Cycle count, cell resistance and a couple other things are also stored here. I think all values are persistent until the battery is physically disconnected.
Might be worth doing a full discharge+charge (to 100%, then let it sit for a few hours to saturate) to see if your battery is worn enough to warrant pulling the phone apart. Accubattery does seem to be more or less accurate, so you charge while it's on you can get a real-time idea of how much has gone in.
* a full charge might be from 1% to 100%. It might be from 5% to 100%. Who knows! I've charged from 2% to 100% a couple times and not had cycle_count increase.
Also, if you do go shopping, beware of undersized batteries. I bought an "OE spec" battery a while ago that was obviously thinner and lighter than the original; it weighed some 12.5% less and only took a 3000mah charge, more or less lining up with the reduced weight. The seller was "tele*cell", and I very much doubt they're the only ones pulling this crap. Record the contents of power_supply/bms if they're important to you, too, as they zero out upon battery disconnect.
edit: hmm, thinking about it...bms = Battery Management System? (not this one specifically, of course)
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Also, if you do go shopping, beware of undersized batteries. I bought an "OE spec" battery a while ago that was obviously thinner and lighter than the original; it weighed some 12.5% less and only took a 3000mah charge, more or less lining up with the reduced weight. The seller was "tele*cell", and I very much doubt they're the only ones pulling this crap. Record the contents of power_supply/bms if they're important to you, too, as they zero out upon battery disconnect.
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It is possible that you bought a smaller battery - but you should know that the capacity of Li** batteries increases within the first couple of cycles. Also usually the nominal capacity might be different from the real (typical) capacity. So you would need to meassure a.new original battery against your replacement battery (not take the value LG tells us for.granted)
daniu said:
It is possible that you bought a smaller battery - but you should know that the capacity of Li** batteries increases within the first couple of cycles. Also usually the nominal capacity might be different from the real (typical) capacity. So you would need to meassure a.new original battery against your replacement battery (not take the value LG tells us for.granted)
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Li-po capacity hasn't really gone anywhere in a while, and I wouldn't expect cheap eBay batteries to be using the newest and best chemistry. It was definitely undersize/weight; I attached some pictures.
Because I wanted to be absolutely sure before I called the seller on it, I purposefully ran it four full cycles, then built up another two during normal use. The best capacity that the BMS ever rated it for was 2980mah, while Accubattery put in something like...3060mah once with subsequent charges in the 2900-3000 range.
While I get what you're saying, I find it unlikely that the BMS would set to the expected design capacity if they were using undersize batteries from the factory.
The reason being that at a guess, the battery "fuel gauge" is probably based on capacity_full, which = capacity_full_design until set. With a new phone that isn't charged to 100% (thus setting capacity_full), if using the phone down to 1% you'd risk either a) the phone suddenly shutting down at ~10% or b) overdischarge damage if the battery is actually less than the phone's design capacity.
Kind of a corner case though, I'll admit, since this would only be on the first run.
Last, I submit my own OEM battery for consideration: prior to taking it out, it had accumulated 537 cycles and had a recorded capacity of 2485mah. That's about what I'd expect from a 3300mah battery that was almost certainly used "normally" e.g. discharged daily, charged nightly and left on the tap at full charge for hours on end.
Like you said, though, the only way to know for sure would be testing a new OEM battery, and we've been fresh out of those for a year and a half now. Maybe someone could nab one from one of their newer models and test for science? I already have too many spare lipo cells laying around.
Septfox said:
Custom ROMs may not be utilizing QC properly. QC 2.0 has few discrete voltage/current steps, while QC 3.0 has many (200mA increments iirc) designed to strike a balance between charging speed and heat. Maybe it's getting stuck in QC 2.0 mode and the temperature feedback isn't working properly?
You could just use a non-fast-charging wireless charger, if you're only charging up at night. 5v/~1A is pretty much harmless, it's just on the slow side of things.
fyi, battery capacity (as tracked by the charging controller driver, I guess) is stored at sys/class/power_supply/bms/charge_full; it defaults to design capacity until a full charge cycle has been completed* and then I suppose is revised each time the driver tracks less energy has been stored after a complete charge. Cycle count, cell resistance and a couple other things are also stored here. I think all values are persistent until the battery is physically disconnected.
Might be worth doing a full discharge+charge (to 100%, then let it sit for a few hours to saturate) to see if your battery is worn enough to warrant pulling the phone apart. Accubattery does seem to be more or less accurate, so you charge while it's on you can get a real-time idea of how much has gone in.
* a full charge might be from 1% to 100%. It might be from 5% to 100%. Who knows! I've charged from 2% to 100% a couple times and not had cycle_count increase.
Also, if you do go shopping, beware of undersized batteries. I bought an "OE spec" battery a while ago that was obviously thinner and lighter than the original; it weighed some 12.5% less and only took a 3000mah charge, more or less lining up with the reduced weight. The seller was "tele*cell", and I very much doubt they're the only ones pulling this crap. Record the contents of power_supply/bms if they're important to you, too, as they zero out upon battery disconnect.
edit: hmm, thinking about it...bms = Battery Management System? (not this one specifically, of course)
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Do you have sleep problem after changing the battery? After changing the battery, my phone doesn't go to sleep when the screen is off, so the battery just keeps draining. I'm using stock ROM. I don't know if this is a software of hardware issue.
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Do you have sleep problem after changing the battery? After changing the battery, my phone doesn't go to sleep when the screen is off, so the battery just keeps draining. I'm using stock ROM. I don't know if this is a software of hardware issue.
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The only thing notable that happened was the battery stats getting wiped. Otherwise the phone behaved normally.
Try getting BetterBatteryStats, second post has the newest apk attached (2.3 iirc).
Start it up to get it established, Set Custom Ref. from the menu, shut the screen off for...ehh...20min.
Turn it back on, select Custom in the left drop-down menu and Current in the right drop-down menu.
Check Kernel Wakelocks and Partial Wakelocks using the top drop-down menu to see if anything sticks out.
Septfox said:
Li-po capacity hasn't really gone anywhere in a while, and I wouldn't expect cheap eBay batteries to be using the newest and best chemistry. It was definitely undersize/weight; I attached some pictures.
Because I wanted to be absolutely sure before I called the seller on it, I purposefully ran it four full cycles, then built up another two during normal use. The best capacity that the BMS ever rated it for was 2980mah, while Accubattery put in something like...3060mah once with subsequent charges in the 2900-3000 range.
While I get what you're saying, I find it unlikely that the BMS would set to the expected design capacity if they were using undersize batteries from the factory.
The reason being that at a guess, the battery "fuel gauge" is probably based on capacity_full, which = capacity_full_design until set. With a new phone that isn't charged to 100% (thus setting capacity_full), if using the phone down to 1% you'd risk either a) the phone suddenly shutting down at ~10% or b) overdischarge damage if the battery is actually less than the phone's design capacity.
Kind of a corner case though, I'll admit, since this would only be on the first run.
Last, I submit my own OEM battery for consideration: prior to taking it out, it had accumulated 537 cycles and had a recorded capacity of 2485mah. That's about what I'd expect from a 3300mah battery that was almost certainly used "normally" e.g. discharged daily, charged nightly and left on the tap at full charge for hours on end.
Like you said, though, the only way to know for sure would be testing a new OEM battery, and we've been fresh out of those for a year and a half now. Maybe someone could nab one from one of their newer models and test for science? I already have too many spare lipo cells laying around.
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What is the full capacity when you put those 2 battery in?
I just bought a battery. This new one has 6 symbols each line (like the one you bought) and 2 lines of manufactured date. The old (original) one has 5 symbols each line and also 2 lines of manufatured date.
When I check "charge_full" after full charging, it shows 3312000 for the original battery and 3230000 for the new one, while the "charge_full_design" being 3312000 for both battery.
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What is the full capacity when you put those 2 battery in?
I just bought a battery. This new one has 6 symbols each line (like the one you bought) and 2 lines of manufactured date. The old (original) one has 5 symbols each line and also 2 lines of manufatured date.
When I check "charge_full" after full charging, it shows 3312000 for the original battery and 3230000 for the new one, while the "charge_full_design" being 3312000 for both battery.
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All three batteries I've had showed the same 3312000 charge_full_design. But I'm not sure if this is relevant to us, aside from as a reference to compare to.
Out of curiosity and so I don't purposely give outright bad information, I went and looked at the kernel (up on github courtesy of lunar-kernels).
3300mah design capacity is set when the kernel is built (BLT34 battery profile, which is grabbed by the power manager).
I'm not sure where the number "3312000" specifically is coming from. I can't read the source for the BMS well enough to tell why it's coming up with that number, aside from it's a calculated result based on more than just the design capacity.
Based on the above and other behavior, I don't think any permanent information is stored with or retrieved from the battery itself; design parameters are set in the BLT34 profile and then the BMS amends certain things as it takes measurements. It assumes that whatever attached battery is actually 3300/3312mah until proven otherwise (calibrated with sufficient cycling).
Said measurements are stored ~somewhere~ outside of the ROM, recovery and download mode - mine persisted through the LAFsploit process and TWRP on both partitions - and cleared when power is lost. Maybe they're stored in RAM somewhere? Maybe the BMS notices the discontinuity in power and assumes a battery change, resetting everything? I'll try making sense of the kernel source to see...
The labeling difference is curious, and something I hadn't really given thought to. The newer ones have NOM and NYCE marks, which are Mexican safety approval things. It's interesting that the originals don't have them; maybe because LG doesn't make phones for the Mexican market and thus saw no need? I doubt these third-party manufacturers have gone out of their way to actually obtain said approval...probably just stuck them there to satisfy customs.
I bought a battery from another seller and installed it this weekend; it uses the 12-symbol style as well, has date+date code like the original (dated a rather shiny 2019.09.08!), and weighs the expected 48g/has an OE-style "stepped" back making it thicker.
Seems to charge fully and otherwise work as expected. charge_full still = charge_full_design, I'm not sure if this is because the BMS has determined that it's an OEM-capacity battery, or it hasn't cycled sufficiently to update. Gonna keep an eye on it. Pictures attached.
Edit: battery listing on ebay. Note if anyone else buys it: the suction cup that came with mine was 100% useless. Plan accordingly.
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A further note on the smaller battery I bought: it did perform admirably. It had no issues when using the phone as a power supply (~2.5A sustained output), right down to where I stopped it at 5%, which is rather abusive for cells in this form-factor. It was just...well...smaller. It certainly wasn't a bad battery at all, it was just misrepresented. Lighter/slightly-smaller batteries would make great travel batteries, if the V30 were swap-friendly...
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@Septfox
I hope you bought a good one.
The battery I bought lasts long, but also takes long to charge (about 2 hours). The phone shows fast-charging but when I check battery log in Hidden menu, it shows only Quick charge 2.0.
I found a way to reset the battery information, hopefully sellers don't use this to reset the cycle count.
There's a thread on xda that shows a method to reset battery information on HTC phones. That is holding down 2 volume buttons + power button (volume down + power for LG V30) in 2 minutes while the phone is being charged, let the phone restart as many times it takes in 2 minutes. And then charge the phone to full.
I did that and when I check in Hidden menu, the battery information was resetted to 3312000 full capacity and 0 cycle count.
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@Septfox
The battery I bought lasts long, but also takes long to charge (about 2 hours). The phone shows fast-charging but when I check battery log in Hidden menu, it shows only Quick charge 2.0.
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QC 3.0 wouldn't outright increase the speed any; it exists to help reduce heat and provide more consistent charging.
If it makes you feel any better, mine is also getting stuck on QC 2.0. Judging by the way the Parallel Charging status flickers on and off as I move the cable and put pressure on the connector, I could probably stand to get a new charging port...
This is why wireless charging is a good idea. But now that I think about it, replacement boards are cheap on ebay ($5), so replacing it each time the battery is changed might be a good bit of cheap maintenance to do :good:
Have you tried a different cable and/or charger to see if your charging improves? Maybe you need a new port, too.
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I found a way to reset the battery information, hopefully sellers don't use this to reset the cycle count.
There's a thread on xda that shows a method to reset battery information on HTC phones. That is holding down 2 volume buttons + power button (volume down + power for LG V30) in 2 minutes while the phone is being charged, let the phone restart as many times it takes in 2 minutes. And then charge the phone to full.
I did that and when I check in Hidden menu, the battery information was resetted to 3312000 full capacity and 0 cycle count.
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I find this slightly alarming, actually...
The normal button combination to hard-reset the phone is power+vol down. This might just be what's happening, and by making the phone do it repeatedly, the firmware might be interpreting it as a bootloop condition caused by something in memory and completely disconnecting power in an attempt to mitigate it (clearing the battery stats in the process). Probably harmless though.
Dunno that a seller would bother trying it, though. What do they get out of it, other than a seemingly-new battery with less capacity than it should have? It would just recalibrate when charged and show the real capacity in the hidden menu, and the game would be up :v
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QC 3.0 wouldn't outright increase the speed any; it exists to help reduce heat and provide more consistent charging.
If it makes you feel any better, mine is also getting stuck on QC 2.0
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All V30 always show QuickCharge 2.0 in Nougat as well as Oreo. Not sure about Pie.
Speculation was it was a script error, that it was really 3.0 -- but falsely shows 2.0.
Can't remember if it was ever proven one way or the other.
I do remember people say it now charges slower on Pie. Again speculative because LG knows batteries are older?
I'm still on rooted Oreo, so I don't care.
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I do remember people say it now charges slower on Pie. Again speculative because LG knows batteries are older?
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I don't notice my phone charging any different. Even when using wired.
Sent from my LG-H932 using XDA Labs
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All V30 always show QuickCharge 2.0 in Nougat as well as Oreo. Not sure about Pie.
Speculation was it was a script error, that it was really 3.0 -- but falsely shows 2.0.
Can't remember if it was ever proven one way or the other.
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I read "the display may not be correct, so you should totally use this as an excuse to get a newer charger-doctor that supports QC".
...and you're completely right, I'm gonna go do that :v
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I do remember people say it now charges slower on Pie. Again speculative because LG knows batteries are older?
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Or to mitigate further aging by reducing internal heat. I also remember seeing somewhere that it was limited to 12w or 13w, now that you mention it, though that might have been for 15w wireless which has a reputation for slow-cooking the battery (in any phone, not just the V30).

Redmi Note 8 Pro not charging at 100% after less than a month of use

Hi, I'm currently experiencing some problems with my Redmi Note 8 Pro.
I've had my phone for less than a month, and it's starting to get issues with the battery.
The battery, whether I charge it with the original wall charger, or I use a computer to charge it, or o use an alternative wall charger (that is for slow charge), it can't get to 100%.
It gets stuck at 99% and says, full charge in 2 minutes, even though the 2 minutes have passed long time ago.
I haven't done a full battery drain, and I always try to use a slow charge charger.
I also haven't done a full cycle without using the phone, maybe that's the problem.
But I'm worried, and I need some help, because I got the phone (as I said) less than a month ago, I haven't even payed the first installment.
I'm still within the seller's warranty, but I need some advices to what can I do, because returning the phone to the seller, to make a change, is gonna cost me 15 to 20 days. And I don't have any other phone to use.
Please, if someone can give me some advice, or tell me what to do, it's completely welcome.
Thanks.
And by the way, I'm using the Global 128Gb version, if that helps.
Edit 29/01/2020: I did a full discharge, because I couldn't read the quotes earlier, and I didn't realize how big the problem could be. Now, the phone can't go over 79%.
I didn't expected this issue with my RN8P, but with other phones (cheap noname ones).
A discharge to around 5%, and a full charge without unplugging did the trick for me.
AnonyIsRight said:
Hi, I'm currently experiencing some problems with my Redmi Note 8 Pro.
I've had my month for less than a month, and it's starting to get issues with the battery.
The battery, whether I charge it with the original wall charger, or I use a computer to charge it, or o use an alternative wall charger (that is for slow charge), it can't get to 100%.
It gets stuck at 99% and says, full charge in 2 minutes, even though the 2 minutes have passed long time ago.
I haven't done a full battery drain, and I always try to use a slow charge charger.
I also haven't done a full cycle without using the phone, maybe that's the problem.
But I'm worried, and I need some help, because I got the phone (as I said) less than a month ago, I haven't even payed the first installment.
I'm still within the seller's warranty, but I need some advices to what can I do, because returning the phone to the seller, to make a change, is gonna cost me 15 to 20 days. And I don't have any other phone to use.
Please, if someone can give me some advice, or tell me what to do, it's completely welcome.
Thanks.
And by the way, I'm using the Global 128Gb version, if that helps.
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When I cannot tell if its some HW related problem with your phone or battery but I am really wondering why you want to do full charges (and/or discharges)? It is known to wear battery way faster. Li-on or Li-po batteries do not have memory effects and it is known to be best to always keep them charge for example between 15-20% and 80-85% trying to never get bellow or above.
This phone has a pretty big battery, that normally should be enough to bring you through a day of normal use (if it does not you may want to check your hungry apps running in the bg) but maybe you are an heavy gamer or use your phone for some heavy usage stuff?
Even then, it would be best to do 2 quick 15 to 50-60% in about 30 mins with QC2 (18W original Wall charger) rather than one unique full charge.
Looking at what you said with slow charging you probably know all of that already, but the faster you charge the battery, even if same %, the faster it will discharge. As odd as it is, remains factual.
I dont know if you ever used an external amperemeter or similar to check what kind of current was actually going through your battery while charging, but if you do you will notice the first % goes way faster to charge than the last few %. The chip dealing with the battery charge, charges slower and slower toward the end because it could damage the battery, when on the opposite it is rather safe to quick charge the % in the middle.
Also you may want to check your alternative 'slow wall charger' to make sure it provides you with a steady voltage current (V). If it is fluctuating too much, it may damage your battery.
If you want to do further research about the subject, there is a note on the RN8PRO Telegram group explaining how to calibrate your battery by deleting some system files (root needed as far as I remember) and having some charges/discharges steps. Personally I have not done it because it requires to go to 100% and 0% a few times, and depleting a Li-ion/Li-po battery completely can damage it irreversibly. They are not meant to be discharged fully period. Now battery should not be completely drained when OS takes the phone off, that said we never know for sure since we cannot change that setting unlike on our windows laptops, but I dont want to take the risk.
When you are stuck to 99% it kind of looks to be the OS not being able to know if the battery is fully charged or not. In that state of things, have you tried to turn off the device without unplugging to see if the off-mode charging screen (the small battery screen with % when you turn your phone off) also remains at 99% or gets to 100% at some point? Because maybe all you need is to restart the phone to make OS aware the battery is fully charged. Could be a SW known/unknown issue/bug to be fixed with future updates for all I know.
But again, I don't think you should fully charge and/or discharge (if you do) your phone when you can avoid it.
Just my 2 cents.
Hope this helps,
Regards,
-=Fxs=- said:
I didn't expected this issue with my RN8P, but with other phones (cheap noname ones).
A discharge to around 5%, and a full charge without unplugging did the trick for me.
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I tried it, and... it got worse.
Now it can't go over 79%. :c
Thanks for trying to help anyways.
Muad.Dib said:
When I cannot tell if its some HW related problem with your phone or battery but I am really wondering why you want to do full charges (and/or discharges)? It is known to wear battery way faster. Li-on or Li-po batteries do not have memory effects and it is known to be best to always keep them charge for example between 15-20% and 80-85% trying to never get bellow or above.
This phone has a pretty big battery, that normally should be enough to bring you through a day of normal use (if it does not you may want to check your hungry apps running in the bg) but maybe you are an heavy gamer or use your phone for some heavy usage stuff?
Even then, it would be best to do 2 quick 15 to 50-60% in about 30 mins with QC2 (18W original Wall charger) rather than one unique full charge.
Looking at what you said with slow charging you probably know all of that already, but the faster you charge the battery, even if same %, the faster it will discharge. As odd as it is, remains factual.
I dont know if you ever used an external amperemeter or similar to check what kind of current was actually going through your battery while charging, but if you do you will notice the first % goes way faster to charge than the last few %. The chip dealing with the battery charge, charges slower and slower toward the end because it could damage the battery, when on the opposite it is rather safe to quick charge the % in the middle.
Also you may want to check your alternative 'slow wall charger' to make sure it provides you with a steady voltage current (V). If it is fluctuating too much, it may damage your battery.
If you want to do further research about the subject, there is a note on the RN8PRO Telegram group explaining how to calibrate your battery by deleting some system files (root needed as far as I remember) and having some charges/discharges steps. Personally I have not done it because it requires to go to 100% and 0% a few times, and depleting a Li-ion/Li-po battery completely can damage it irreversibly. They are not meant to be discharged fully period. Now battery should not be completely drained when OS takes the phone off, that said we never know for sure since we cannot change that setting unlike on our windows laptops, but I dont want to take the risk.
When you are stuck to 99% it kind of looks to be the OS not being able to know if the battery is fully charged or not. In that state of things, have you tried to turn off the device without unplugging to see if the off-mode charging screen (the small battery screen with % when you turn your phone off) also remains at 99% or gets to 100% at some point? Because maybe all you need is to restart the phone to make OS aware the battery is fully charged. Could be a SW known/unknown issue/bug to be fixed with future updates for all I know.
But again, I don't think you should fully charge and/or discharge (if you do) your phone when you can avoid it.
Just my 2 cents.
Hope this helps,
Regards,
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Hi Muad.Dib,
Well, I wanted to do that full charge a/o discharge because I thought it would help with the issue (turns out, it didn't, it got worse as you said) but I didn't know the effects of this before, I always thought it wouldn't have any effect. I wish I could have read your reply before doing it (I was busy and couldn't read it).
The battery lasts for more than a day (or it did before), and I always try to keep it clean from battery draining apps, and I don't play games that much on the phone, less than an hour per day.
Do you recommend me to do those 2 charges to 60% in my state? (phone can't get over 79% now).
I haven't ever used an amperemeter because I don't have one, and neither I do know how to use one of those.
If you can lend me a hand and give me the link to join the Telegram Group, it would very helpful ??. But I don't want to root the phone yet, cause the seller's warranty stills intact.
And yes, I have tried it and the off-mode charging screen keeps showing me 99% (or kept, because now it keeps at 79%). And I also tried few restarts and it didn't fixed it. :c
And I'm sorry, I wish I could've avoided it, but I read your reply too late.
Thanks for trying to help me anyways.
PS. I will try to do a factory reset to see if the MIUI update has something to do with the issue (because the seller told me to do it, and I will do it, though I don't think it could solve the issue). Please, if you have any advice before I do it, you could help me a lot. ( I'll do it something around 11:00 AM in GMT -03:00)
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Hi Muad.Dib,
Well, I wanted to do that full charge a/o discharge because I thought it would help with the issue (turns out, it didn't, it got worse as you said) but I didn't know the effects of this before, I always thought it wouldn't have any effect. I wish I could have read your reply before doing it (I was busy and couldn't read it).
The battery lasts for more than a day (or it did before), and I always try to keep it clean from battery draining apps, and I don't play games that much on the phone, less than an hour per day.
Do you recommend me to do those 2 charges to 60% in my state? (phone can't get over 79% now).
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Hey.
Very strange what is happening to you it's probably the first time I read about something like this.
Please note I am no battery expert either.
From own experience and friends, usually when you wear a battery (or it worn by itself after use or bad storage condition before being sold) it still goes up to 100% but does not retain original design capacity anymore. The usual behavior is like for example you still have like 30% left, and suddenly it drops to like 5% and you only have a few seconds to plug it in the charger.
When that's happens it is time to change battery.
In your case I really have no idea what could prevent HW/SW to reach 100%.
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I haven't ever used an amperemeter because I don't have one, and neither I do know how to use one of those.
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Oh those are easy to use as I meant some kind of small USB device that you plug in between your charger and your phone. They are cheap and you get them for like 10 bucks on Amazon. Readings might not be 100% accurate but they still give a decent idea as they display Voltage, Amperage and accumulated capacity/used current for device plugged.
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If you can lend me a hand and give me the link to join the Telegram Group, it would very helpful . But I don't want to root the phone yet, cause the seller's warranty stills intact.
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As I said I am nothing like an expert or anything so I am unsure what I can do to help. However I did check the telegram group and I confirm you the battery calibration thing is a rooted thing.
To find that group it is pretty easy just search for Redmi Note 8 Pro OFFICIAL from telegram and join the group.
You find quite a few things there.
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And yes, I have tried it and the off-mode charging screen keeps showing me 99% (or kept, because now it keeps at 79%). And I also tried few restarts and it didn't fixed it. :c
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Normally nothing you could have done, could have damaged the battery this way. Depleting it completely could have shorten its life or damage its overall capacity, but by all means there is no way in just a month you could have damaged the battery to this point. So either the OS is not reading things right (what version of OS and phone do you have - which region is your rom?) or either sensors or battery have a problem.
Since you still are under warranty period I would definitely get it replaced. Maybe you got a faulty batch or something. This happens.
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PS. I will try to do a factory reset to see if the MIUI update has something to do with the issue (because the seller told me to do it, and I will do it, though I don't think it could solve the issue). Please, if you have any advice before I do it, you could help me a lot. ( I'll do it something around 11:00 AM in GMT -03:00)
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This definitely cannot hurt to try.
If that does not work return the phone.
Just to know, based on your flag I would assume you are in Chile but I may be wrong. If I am not mistaking it is summer there and probably is pretty hot. I wonder if 'too hot' could damage the battery.
Hope this helps.
Regards,

[Q] Battery level is incorrect only in bootloader?

Hi,
Recently my Redmi Note 8T battery percentage acts weird, after I had it charged to 86%, it quickly dropped to around 50%, then it turned off itself, bootloop-ing countless times.
Strange enough if I have it plugged to any power source it would turn on, but as soon as I unplugged it, it turned off, sometimes immediately, sometime after usage of 2-5 minutes.
My phone is unlocked, and for years I never use root except to restore data. Only custom roms + gapps. And my storage is not encrypted (use dfe).
I know it's battery problem, but my main question is: I'm able to enter twrp or ofox, and it shows battery percentage.
And while in recovery, it never turn off itself, it's like the battery is working properly, I'm able to use it for long time, tried 1-2 hours before I hit power off from recovery.
But as soon as I hit reboot to system without any charger plugged in, it's bootlooping again.
I tried to swap to different kernel, they didn't help. So I suspect the issue isn't coming from kernel.
Just somehow the battery percentage stored in bootloader (?) or something else and the percentage read by twrp/ofox is different
What I'm able to:
1. Boot the device with charger plugged in
2. Boot to any recovery
3. Boot to fastboot
What I haven't do yet:
1. Flash back original miui EEA
2. Format data
3. Let the battery empty and charge it after it
I'm not sure about format data would help, I just do clean flash every time change rom.
About flash to miui, I noticed sometime phone displays the original offline charging indicator (the big battery icon with color) shows empty when rebooting (just before going bootloop).
But when I offline charge (using custom roms) and got different display of offline charge (I believe the custom offline charge from the roms), the percentage shows the same as being shown in twrp/ofox.
Does anyone here knows maybe how to reset/recalibrate battery level in the bootloader (?, again I'm sorry, I'm not sure where it's located) so it can show correct data as same as what being read in recovery?
That's sign of your battery is dying. There is plenty of thread about it in this forum also with different phones.
Just replace the battery, or you can bypass the fuse(?) on the bms if you don't want to replace the battery, idk how safe it is though.
You already know it, its not software issue, you cannot recalibrate, there is no way around it
I just facing same issue for the past few days, I tried everything i can from software side, nothing works. In the end, I just replace my battery and now everything working just fine.
SkyFlex said:
That's sign of your battery is dying. There is plenty of thread about it in this forum also with different phones.
Just replace the battery, or you can bypass the fuse(?) on the bms if you don't want to replace the battery, idk how safe it is though.
You already know it, its not software issue, you cannot recalibrate, there is no way around it
I just facing same issue for the past few days, I tried everything i can from software side, nothing works. In the end, I just replace my battery and now everything working just fine.
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Yes, I was wondering if there's anyway to fix it without going to service centre or DIY opening its backcover and change the battery, lol.
I never heard of bms, what is it?
As for now, I have left it more than 24 hours on ofox and the battery is not drained yet, so obviously, the battery itself still has some juiced in it yet cannot be used outside recovery/fastboot mode.
x3r0.13urn said:
Yes, I was wondering if there's anyway to fix it without going to service centre or DIY opening its backcover and change the battery, lol.
I never heard of bms, what is it?
As for now, I have left it more than 24 hours on ofox and the battery is not drained yet, so obviously, the battery itself still has some juiced in it yet cannot be used outside recovery/fastboot mode.
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Its Battery Management System. A little board mounted on the battery.
What bms does? The name is self-explanatory, that little board have responsibility for protection, monitoring like thermal, battery health, regulate charging and discharging, something like that.
Probably because in recovery/download mode it didn't draw much power from the battery compare to booting up device or doing heavy task. So the bms like "Alright, that's safe enough".
If you want to try to "recalibrate", try deleting batterystats.bin under /data/system, also under battery-history and battery-saver folder
SkyFlex said:
Its Battery Management System. A little board mounted on the battery.
What bms does? The name is self-explanatory, that little board have responsibility for protection, monitoring like thermal, battery health, regulate charging and discharging, something like that.
Probably because in recovery/download mode it didn't draw much power from the battery compare to booting up device or doing heavy task. So the bms like "Alright, that's safe enough".
If you want to try to "recalibrate", try deleting batterystats.bin under /data/system, also under battery-history and battery-saver folder
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Nah that "calibrate" process was a placebo, it was known for it long ago. Anyway, your hunch is correct. The battery's fuse was blown. Had to replace the battery, don't want to mess with solder.
I was quite surprised as my daily usage never been heavy and I'm quite careful using it. I never play any games on the phone. Never use it when it's being charged. Rarely overcharged it. Charge always around 20-30% to 85-92%. Use original charger, just recently I switched to Xiaomi 33w. Yet still the fuse was blown after all. Not sure whether the 33w charger was the culprit.
x3r0.13urn said:
Nah that "calibrate" process was a placebo, it was known for it long ago. Anyway, your hunch is correct. The battery's fuse was blown. Had to replace the battery, don't want to mess with solder.
I was quite surprised as my daily usage never been heavy and I'm quite careful using it. I never play any games on the phone. Never use it when it's being charged. Rarely overcharged it. Charge always around 20-30% to 85-92%. Use original charger, just recently I switched to Xiaomi 33w. Yet still the fuse was blown after all. Not sure whether the 33w charger was the culprit.
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Same case here, I used 18w charger ( Aukey PA-T9 ) never charge below 20-30% since I bought this device, I'm pretty sure my battery wear still quite good, the battery also physically good not swollen, just the fuse. Although for the last few months I've been using the phone while charging ( watching live stream on Twitch ) which I know the app is used high cpu usage compare to youtube/local video player ( MX player )
Probably not, but who knows, I don't want to dig deeper what cause it, I'm not knowledgeable about electrical, but I do think the fuse worn off for some reasons and blow under normal loads.
For me its been around 3 years, the battery need to replace anyway.

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