rom dilemma; paranoia and security - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

first of all i love this forum SO much!
I have flashed different roms to find the one i like and im currently pretty content with leedroid (even though im not sure if a non sense rom would save more battery)... the thing is, i used miui for a while and loved the fact that it always asks you if you want an app to do a certain action like sending sms and making calls... im pretty paranoid about it and miui made me feel very safe. my question would be; is there a way to have this on other roms? i know Superuser asks you if you grant root access, but i couldnt find anything for sms and calls
thanks for your help, in advance
ps: this is what im talking about
Permissions Manager
The Permissions Manager is split into three sections, root permissions, permissions, and auto-start
Upon installation of an apk off your sdcard, you get asked to grant individual permissions, set "I trust this app," or the default setting will ask you as the app asks for each permission.
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i want the feature "ask you as the app asks for each permission" but outside of MIUI
i guess i just want the MIUI permissions manager outside MIUI, or at least something that does the same job
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alright it seems i have found what im looking for. its the LBE Privacy Guard app, which apparently is the one integrated into MIUI
so... i guess i would say the thread can be marked as SOLVED

rom security.
highdroid said:
first of all i love this forum SO much!
I have flashed different roms to find the one i like and im currently pretty content with leedroid (even though im not sure if a non sense rom would save more battery)... the thing is, i used miui for a while and loved the fact that it always asks you if you want an app to do a certain action like sending sms and making calls... im pretty paranoid about it and miui made me feel very safe. my question would be; is there a way to have this on other roms? i know Superuser asks you if you grant root access, but i couldnt find anything for sms and calls
thanks for your help, in advance
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every app in the market states what permissions any app requires. most roms also let you set permissions as well.

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every app in the market states what permissions any app requires. most roms also let you set permissions as well.
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thank you. im aware of that. but say i install an apk that needs permission to send sms because of a store inside the app where you can buy items by sms; miui would ask me if its ok for it to send an sms right when the app tries to send an sms. i know that i can remove certain permissions after installing the app, but many apps stop functioning when you use this method

highdroid said:
thank you. im aware of that. but say i install an apk that needs permission to send sms because of a store inside the app where you can buy items by sms; miui would ask me if its ok for it to send an sms right when the app tries to send an sms. i know that i can remove certain permissions after installing the app, but many apps stop functioning when you use this method
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If you are really worried about security then MIUI is not the best rom for that.

sounds like over paranoia tbh
go to the general android forum and there is something called pdroid which depending on which ROM you have, will block apps from transmitting personal info such as IMEI numbers etc
MIUI isn't 'safe' just because it prompts you
personally it sounds like an annoying feature, much like user access control on Windows Vista (ignoring the fact that Vista was a poor attempt at an OS in its own right)
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zelendel said:
If you are really worried about security then MIUI is not the best rom for that.
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oh?? could you maybe suggest one?

TwistedSanity666 said:
sounds like over paranoia tbh
go to the general android forum and there is something called pdroid which depending on which ROM you have, will block apps from transmitting personal info such as IMEI numbers etc
MIUI isn't 'safe' just because it prompts you
personally it sounds like an annoying feature, much like user access control on Windows Vista (ignoring the fact that Vista was a poor attempt at an OS in its own right)
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first of all, yes vista was just terrible lol
pdroid looks great!!! thanks! i didnt even know that this data is collected and used for malicious purposes...

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Help With Security Solution

I want to be able to granularly set the permissions for each app. From what I understand my options are:
Cyanogenmod - except CM10 for SGS2 is missing this at this time
Pdroid for GB
Pdroid 2.0 - running CM10 only
LBE (from China)
I have had Pdroid 2.0 running on CM10 for a few weeks but CM10 isn't stable - just had it auto-reboot in the middle of a call. Does anybody have any other ideas / suggestions?
On a related note - I'm wondering why it seems that most people aren't bothered with apps monitoring their use and even more important archiving all the data compiled on them?? The only thing that I can think of is that most cell phone / XDA users are really young and just don't know any better??? Didn't they pay any attention in history class?? What am I missing here?
Mrktmind said:
On a related note - I'm wondering why it seems that most people aren't bothered with apps monitoring their use and even more important archiving all the data compiled on them?? The only thing that I can think of is that most cell phone / XDA users are really young and just don't know any better??? Didn't they pay any attention in history class?? What am I missing here?
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Because phone security is generally easy to manage. Most apps make a good name for themselves. And many people check the security of an app as soon as it were to hit the Play Store. It doesn't mean we are young it means that we aren't dumb and know how modern technology works.
hrffd said:
Because phone security is generally easy to manage. Most apps make a good name for themselves. And many people check the security of an app as soon as it were to hit the Play Store. It doesn't mean we are young it means that we aren't dumb and know how modern technology works.[/QUOTE
I highly doubt that anyone on XDA, regardless of age, is dumb. I do believe, however, that there are quite a few younger members who could be a bit naive due to a lack of experience. Younger folks tend to take most things at face value. Just because something is free monetarily doesn't mean it isn't costing you something. Just because an app is on Play Store doesn't mean it is "secure" - especially since the Play Store (as well as Android, Google, et.al.) operate on the same business model as the apps!
Just a random example - Why would Angry Birds need my Sim Card Serial number to operate properly? Why would it need to know the phone numbers of all my incoming calls? Answer - it doesn't - in fact it doesn't need ANY of the permissions it asks for to operate properly. So why does it ask for these permissions? Answer - it is data mining your phone.
Ok, so I think most XDA members are aware of WHAT these apps are doing. My original question is WHY don't more people seem to care?
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Mrktmind said:
I want to be able to granularly set the permissions for each app. From what I understand my options are:
Cyanogenmod - except CM10 for SGS2 is missing this at this time
Pdroid for GB
Pdroid 2.0 - running CM10 only
LMB (from China)
I have had Pdroid 2.0 running on CM10 for a few weeks but CM10 isn't stable - just had it auto-reboot in the middle of a call. Does anybody have any other ideas / suggestions?
On a related note - I'm wondering why it seems that most people aren't bothered with apps monitoring their use and even more important archiving all the data compiled on them?? The only thing that I can think of is that most cell phone / XDA users are really young and just don't know any better??? Didn't they pay any attention in history class?? What am I missing here?
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I believe MIUI is also a viable option for this, no? You can set app permission on a "per-app" basis with MIUI security I believe.
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I tried this app a while back and it basically does what you want but it got annoying https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lbe.security.lite
I don't use these because I am very selective about what goes on my phone.
Thanks Luke!
Not very familiar with MIUI ROM's will have to look into them.
someguyatx said:
I tried this app a while back and it basically does what you want but it got annoying https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lbe.security.lite
I don't use these because I am very selective about what goes on my phone.
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Yes, this is the app I listed above - just had the initials wrong! :silly: It is a lot like pdroid but, like you, it scares me.
I have my own small business and run most of it from my phone, in the beginning I used the standard flip phone then graduated on to a touch pro 2 with Windows Mobile 6.5 as I began to accumulate massive amounts of data on my Windows Mobile phone, for some reason I still felt secure in the applications like ActiveSync that I was in control of my data.... A year ago last October I upgraded to the Samsung Galaxy s2.. this was my first real experience with Google's Android operating system. in the first few minutes of using the new phone I could see how deeply the hooks were being placed to data mine my information. I resisted at first but then came to realize if I wanted all the bells and whistles Google was offering I had to play the game... I use the security program mentioned above... maybe they should have an app were you sign a consent of exactly which data you would like to keep on your phone and not share with other people. then when you visit the play store apps that request more of your private data than you're willing to share won't show up? I would like to have an open sourced built firewall that monitors traffic, letting me choose the permissions per app as I see fit.
Mrktmind said:
Thanks Luke!
Not very familiar with MIUI ROM's will have to look into them.
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I've ran both Adhvanlt's and Lens's JB MIUI Roms, and they're both amazing! The standard MIUI launcher feels a bit like the iphone, and there is no app drawer, but that's easily fixed by downloading [insert favorite launcher here] if you don't care for it. There's hundreds of options for customization. They are literally the most customizable ROMs you'll ever run; All of this on top of the fact that it has the security features I believe you are after baked right in to it.
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Looked at two MIUI ROM's for the E4GT. Both of them have issues with Google Voice. I need Google Voice.
I am also going to try +AF (Droidwall fork) firewall tonight to see if it will work on FK23. It apparently has issues with some ICS/JB ROM's. That will at least give some protection from apps that don't need network access at all. But for apps that need network access to do their intended job it's useless. Just read last night that the developer has added profiles to +AF - that should be really cool.
I guess I'm spoiled a bit with Pdroid - it works so well and is very detailed.
Thanks for all the replies! Other suggestions, ideas, thoughts, opinions welcomed!
Mrktmind said:
I want to be able to granularly set the permissions for each app. From what I understand my options are:
Cyanogenmod - except CM10 for SGS2 is missing this at this time
Pdroid for GB
Pdroid 2.0 - running CM10 only
LBE (from China)
I have had Pdroid 2.0 running on CM10 for a few weeks but CM10 isn't stable - just had it auto-reboot in the middle of a call. Does anybody have any other ideas / suggestions?
On a related note - I'm wondering why it seems that most people aren't bothered with apps monitoring their use and even more important archiving all the data compiled on them?? The only thing that I can think of is that most cell phone / XDA users are really young and just don't know any better??? Didn't they pay any attention in history class?? What am I missing here?
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As an app developer, I can tell you that there are some shady apps, but if you download from good devs, the permissions are *usually* necessary. Here's some examples that people question the most:
Access to contacts... Assuming it's not a contact or sms app, if any app has a "share" feature needs this permission.
Access to sd card... Any app that saves anything or lets you change a background needs this.
Read phone state... So the app can properly call the "onpause" method when a call comes in.
Access to location... Assuming it's not a location app or game like ingress or zombies!Run!, you'll typically see this on free apps that have ads. Ads allow developers to get paid for their work while keeping the app free. They don't have access to the ad data, though. They just put in the api and the ad company handles the rest.
On top of that, large organizations will seek phone specific permissions like sim card numbers for analytics.
Google makes most of its money from ads, so it reads your usage to better target ads. Google also uses location data to improve location services like maps.
If you're worried about security, don't download a random app that only has 100+ downloads. If an app has 50000+ downloads, you can rest assured that it's already been vetted.
Also if you're downloading pirated apps, you're just a moron who is opening up his world to who knows who. Many (not all) pirated apps have added data mining code.
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[Q]deny permissions

how can i deny permissions ?
sometimes i find apps with strange permissions, if i dont trust and i want to deny them something like net access, how can i do ?
theres some apps ? or something in the rom that i can use for this ?
im using paranoid 3.15, sorry for bad english
im the doctor said:
how can i deny permissions ?
sometimes i find apps with strange permissions, if i dont trust and i want to deny them something like net access, how can i do ?
theres some apps ? or something in the rom that i can use for this ?
im using paranoid 3.15, sorry for bad english
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Disable them.
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Are you on a ROM other than stock? Aokp based ROMs added permission management in the settings now
pardon noobish question but... how ?
i really dont think i can do that with paranoid :\
Well, you pretty much answered your own question. You have to flash an AOKP ROM to get that feature. If you search the play store for permission manager I'm sure there's a couple apps you can try.
t1.8matt said:
Well, you pretty much answered your own question. You have to flash an AOKP ROM to get that feature. If you search the play store for permission manager I'm sure there's a couple apps you can try.
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If you use rom manager you can stop any app asking for dubious permission/ s
Stock roms even so long as you are rooted. Good way to save battery as you can turn apps radio access off.some have 5,6,...radio's....
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If you use rom manager you can stop any app asking for dubious permission/ s
Stock roms even so long as you are rooted. Good way to save battery as you can turn apps radio access off.some have 5,6,...radio's....
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that was one of the apps i was thinking of but forgot since i haven't messed with it too much in a while. permission manager in the app store can be used rooted or non rooted.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...IxMiwiY29tLmdtYWlsLnBlcm1pc3Npb25tYW5hZ2VyIl0.
i think i've found a good solution
im trying AFWall+ free on google play or dropbox apk here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957231
just installed and tested something, seems to work, it's only a firewall, so i can't deny all permissions, but i think is enough for me.
i gave a look at some apps on google play but according to some comments they may not work sometimes so...
btw thx you all for help

[Q] Your Thoughts On Apps & Their Permissions

G'Day,
To make a long story short.. I was wondering if there were applications that can actually seek out and tell you what permissions other applications that you installed on your phone are asking for, and then ask you if you would like to modify or deny certain permissions within that application you have on your phone? (I know Android tells you the permissions by default..lol)
I was reading on paranoid android how android works and how it all fits to different files .. with this in mind.. I also noticed that some applications you see posted on google play, seek extreme permissions.. (for example to be able to send text on your mobile ect.. or to find other known accounts on your phone)
This kind of thing concerns me as I dont like other information to be known to others ect. .specially if you use for phone for transactions like google play and email accounts.. Hence the question above.
If no one knows of any..an application that can change the permissions of an app without interfering with the normal running of a game or program on the phone, does anyone know of someone that might be willing to make something like that?..
What are your thoughts on that?
If you have the Xposed Framework installed, the Xprivacy module for said framework will tell you what you want -- every permission used by a given app -- and let you selectively disable those you don't want.
iCurmudgeon said:
If you have the Xposed Framework installed, the Xprivacy module for said framework will tell you what you want -- every permission used by a given app -- and let you selectively disable those you don't want.
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Thanks for that, I am looking to Flash the galaxy s2 more so, to start learning more about smart phones.
The Jellybean 4.1.2 that i have on the S2 gets social hub errors and becomes unresponsive sometimes. so was looking at playing around with it and trying paranoid android or something else and then try that xposed framework..
Thanks again for that.. am looking into it. :good:

[Samsung Galaxy S3] With [Lollipop 5.1] [Custom ROM] Info, Help, And Troubleshooting

This thread is for...​
• Helping you to understand why you would want to upgrade your Samsung Galaxy S3 to a 5.1 ROM.
• Helping to address any concerns prior to this upgrade.
• Helping you to accomplish this upgrade.
• Helping you to troubleshoot and fix any issues after this upgrade.
• Talking about custom kernels, mods, tweaks, custom recoveries, apps, privacy, etc. for the Galaxy S3 running a 5.1 ROM.
• Talking about anything else similar to the above that pertains to the GS3 with a 5.1 ROM.​
Why Would I Want To Upgrade My GS3?​
**** Your Galaxy S3 is an amazing machine for how old it is. However support and customization is limited now that there are "better" phones available. Waiting for updates from android can be frustrating. Some newer software may not work for you. Bugs can get on your last nerve. Everyone else seems to have a cooler phone.
**** By upgrading your phone you can unlock its full potential safely without losing important data stored on the phone. Customization, performance, compatibility, and privacy will improve and can get close to or even surpass some of the brand new devices coming out today! My GS3 outperforms my sisters GS6 in many ways!
**** If you decide to make the change you will feel like you have a brand new phone and forget about upgrading anytime soon! Newer models are removing sd card access, removable batteries, privacy measures that protect you, etc. This phone is a beast if you give it a little TLC! If in the end you prefer the older way you can restore your phone to the exact moment before you upgraded and everything will be the same, no harm done! I am assuming you are rooted already, although this may not be necessary if you are flashing a ROM that is pre-rooted like Cyanogenmod.
Issues That I Have Experienced To Be Aware Of Before Upgrading. Most Of These Are Fixed In Recent Builds, But I'm Including The Solutions That Worked For Me Anyway.​
• Issue: Blackscreen during phone calls
Fix: For me I used xposed app proximity off. Other solutions can cause high cpu usage due to general, sloppy developing
• Issue: No 4g or mms
Fix: For me i used cm12 ting apn zip
Better fix: use apn backup app prior to upgrade and save settings so you can reapply them on new ROM.
• Issue: Battery drain
Fix: For me I recalibrated my battery and used* Xprivacy and Greenify apps along with built in privacy guard advanced settings to double my battery life
• Issue: No sound when using free phone apps
Fix: For me i had to edit my build.prop real quickly and changed mic from digital to analog. Consult with a professional before editing your build.prop
• Issue: Root access denied
Fix: For me I had to enable developer settings and enable root access there
• Issue: App not opening
Fix: For me I had to boot to recovery and wipe cache and dalvik and then reboot.
• Issue: No Google apps or playstore
Fix: For me i had to flash gapps after update.
• Issue: Stuck in boot
Fix: For me i had to pull battery and hold power button down for 30sec. Then using button combination reboot to recovery and wipe cache and dalvik and then reboot.
Things To Do Before Upgrading To Be Safe​
~ Research ROMS and select one that is for your device model# specifically (ex: sprint s3 is different from verizon s3). If unsure just ask!
~ Make sure your battery is fully charged.
~ This guide is for the sprint variant. Other variants may have locked bootloaders and if so this could brick your device without first unlocking.
~ Install custom recovery (I recommend TWRP. CWM has known problems with our device, so please don't use it if you care about your device).
~ Create a TWRP backup (also called nandroid backup) and put on sd card.
~ Backup your texts to sd card using app called Sms backup and restore.
~ Backup music, pics, vids, downloads, contacts, calendar, etc. to sd card.
~ Backup apps to sd card using Titanium Backup App. Although it will be better to re-download them after upgrading.
~ Email yourself links to your bookmarks in browser.
~ Screenshot anything that you cant figure out how to save.
~ Look at each app in your list of app and think "is there any data in this app that I don't want to lose?"
~ Backup anything else not mentioned above that you care about to sd card.
~ Download ROM zip and gapps zip to sd card.
How To Accomplish This Upgrade​
~ If there is anything you don't understand yet, please ask now!
~ Do everything listed under "Things To Do Before Upgrading To Be Safe".
~ Verify in file manager that your nandroid backup, all important data, and all zips needed for upgrade are on your sd card not internal storage.
~ Make sure your battery is fully charged.
~ Boot to custom recovery (Please use TWRP!)
~ Pull out sd card so that you don't accidentally erase it.
~ Select wipe-advanced wipe-and check the boxes for dalvik, system, data, internal storage, cache.
~ Reinsert sd card.
~ Select install-micro sd card (touch where it says, "storage: internal storage" and switch to micro sd card)
~ Find and select new 5.1 ROM zip and Gapps zip on sd card.
~ Flash them and reboot to system.
~ Allow about 15min reboot.
~ Go through initial setup of ROM to get to home screen.
~ Let it sit on home screen for about 10 more minutes to allow background processes to update.
~ Get ready to show off your phone because it will be amazing!
Give it time to reboot and dont interrupt the process it typically takes 15 min total. If you are stuck at boot image still then pull the battery out, and hold down power button for 30 seconds. Then replace battery and reboot directly to recovery by holding down power, volume up, and home. When it flashes logo and in top left corner you see blue writing, then let go of power button and continue to hold volume up and home until you see the recovery screen. Then wipe cache and dalvik cache and reboot. If this does not work, then all you need to do is boot to recovery again using hardbutton combo like above, and restore your nandroid backup from sd card. If you brick your device by making a mistake somehow in all of this, and you forgot to nandroid, then you need to search for the debrick image for your specific device to start over, or use odin to flash back to stock, but it will come back to life dont worry.
Btw I am running cm12.1 nightly with Dkp kernel, Lspeed mod, Xposed 5.1, and carrier is Ting.
Ask me if you are interested in help to finely tune battery, performance, and privacy after installing your 5.1 ROM.​
Related XDA Threads (with permission)​
Dkp - This is a custom kernel that works for sprint GS3 model. Other variants available on other thread by him.* I love it!* Special thanks to @decimalman for his hard work!:good::good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2174403
Lspeed - This is a module that should work with any device.* Its amazing!* Special thanks to @Paget96 for his hard work!:good::good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/tweak-l-speed-v1-0-02-02-2015-t3020138
Thank you mister! This was exactly what I was looking for and it worked great! Now I have Cyanogenmod with lollipop on my phone!
Please feel free to ask any questions, share any other valuable information, or share your thoughts about this post. i would add more info on the topic but im unsure anyone is interested. if you have anything to add please do! thanks for your input! if it did help please hit the thanks button!
I keep seeing threads started regarding questions about this topic. Im ready to help on the daily if anyone wants to post any question here.
Where did u find the ting apn zip? I'm having trouble finding it.
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monsterpenguin5 said:
Where did u find the ting apn zip? I'm having trouble finding it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...m-lp-beta1-t3048705/post59430312#post59430312
Post #50 thanks to @Philux
I tried everything online and thats the only one that worked for me! And yes its extremely hard to find lol! Hope it helps you as much as it did me.
After wipes I flashed rom and then gapps and then this, then reboot and leave alone for 10 min. Then go to recovery again and flash rom and gapps and reboot (no wipes this time and no apn zip). Any other questions let me know.
I want to install that lspeed thing but idk which 1 i need. There are so many versions im confused. Can you tell me?
Cyanmom said:
I want to install that lspeed thing but idk which 1 i need. There are so many versions im confused. Can you tell me?
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u want arm version not x86. test versions are stable too, but have experimental features added so u can pick newest test if u want, or if u feel safer picking the v2.4 stable verion then thats great too! Hope it works for u as well as it does for me!
Tyvm! I will download it now
Wow people have no idea how bad they are being spied on! Check out this screenshot below!
Google app has tried to record my conversations 4,899 times in 1 month!
Keep in mind i dont use voice search so these are all unauthorized attempts to create personal ads for me and worse. Thank God for privacy guard and similar programs. People need to know about these things and wise up for their own protection
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Wow people have no idea how bad they are being spied on! Check out this screenshot below!
Google app has tried to record my conversations 4,899 times in 1 month!
Keep in mind i dont use voice search so these are all unauthorized attempts to create personal ads for me and worse. Thank God for privacy guard and similar programs. People need to know about these things and wise up for their own protection
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I'm pretty sure this is just Google App attempting to open the mic for voice search, which was denied since you have it set to ignore (you must use the search app a lot, and/or Google Now). You don't use voice search, so it doesn't impact you. But voice search won't work with that permission set to ignore.
I could be wrong, but the clandestine recording and transmission of audio files would cause a battery and data hit that would be noticed at some point. Besides, they're already using whatever we type (or speak) into search and Gmail for ad targeting and that's the deal we make for using their "free" services.
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I'm pretty sure this is just Google App attempting to open the mic for voice search, which was denied since you have it set to ignore (you must use the search app a lot, and/or Google Now). You don't use voice search, so it doesn't impact you. But voice search won't work with that permission set to ignore.
I could be wrong, but the clandestine recording and transmission of audio files would cause a battery and data hit that would be noticed at some point. Besides, they're already using whatever we type (or speak) into search and Gmail for ad targeting and that's the deal we make for using their "free" services.
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They are attempting to open mic but why when i dont ever hit voice search? I know it wont work thats why i set to ignore. U are right that we agree to them using info for using apps for free. U make good points but ultimately u r taking their word for it that we should trust them. I will hunt down some documents tonight to show u some problems and bugs with google in the past. This has been noticed by other people. For example there have been "bugs" when after using google voice it stays on. Heres an article from forbes that is related too but they are not even talking about many problems
http://www.forbes.com/sites/marcweb...le-chrome-to-eavesdrop-on-your-pc-microphone/
In fact when google started this about 10 years or so ago we were not giving permission and they had to stop and fix legal scripts before continuing. Lots of articles from back in those days whem i first started knowing about this seem to have "disappeared" from the internet. Im sure google had a part in that because it was bad advertising. I know someone who listens to similar recordings made by a popular app as a full time job and transcribes them to text for their "marketing purposes". Of course we are agreeing to the fine print but i dont think we really realize who they are sharing that info with, and that its okay for them to listen when app malfunctions, background voices are transcribed too, etc. I know i sound crazy but there is much proof of untrusted individuals accessing legit data and using as they want. Look at all Edward Snowdens revelations so far and more are coming. I just cant trust all these companies that cooperate with govt info requests. Even encryption as we know it is a lie and not random. I got crazy day but would love to talk more on this tonight if u want
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They are attempting to open mic but why when i dont ever hit voice search? I know it wont work thats why i set to ignore. U are right that we agree to them using info for using apps for free. U make good points but ultimately u r taking their word for it that we should trust them. I will hunt down some documents tonight to show u some problems and bugs with google in the past. This has been noticed by other people. For example there have been "bugs" when after using google voice it stays on. Heres an article from forbes that is related too but they are not even talking about many problems
http://www.forbes.com/sites/marcweb...le-chrome-to-eavesdrop-on-your-pc-microphone/
In fact when google started this about 10 years or so ago we were not giving permission and they had to stop and fix legal scripts before continuing. Lots of articles from back in those days whem i first started knowing about this seem to have "disappeared" from the internet. Im sure google had a part in that because it was bad advertising. I know someone who listens to similar recordings made by a popular app as a full time job and transcribes them to text for their "marketing purposes". Of course we are agreeing to the fine print but i dont think we really realize who they are sharing that info with, and that its okay for them to listen when app malfunctions, background voices are transcribed too, etc. I know i sound crazy but there is much proof of untrusted individuals accessing legit data and using as they want. Look at all Edward Snowdens revelations so far and more are coming. I just cant trust all these companies that cooperate with govt info requests. Even encryption as we know it is a lie and not random. I got crazy day but would love to talk more on this tonight if u want
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I'm not saying it's not possible, or that I trust Google. And, to be sure, there are plenty of vulnerabilities and exploits out there, as in the examples you mentioned. But I don't think the specific issue you have with Google app is an attempt by Google to spy on you. You say you don't hit voice search, but do you hit search at all? Also, if you have a launcher that has "OK Google" functionality (I don't), that might cause it, too. My phone (SPH-L710, Exodus, dkp) indicates that that Record Audio was triggered 114 times by Google app, which I estimate to be about the number of times I've hit search, and I hit search again and the number increased by one. Now, if you don't use search or have any "OK Google" functionality, then your Record Audio number is curious.
kjjm said:
I'm not saying it's not possible, or that I trust Google. And, to be sure, there are plenty of vulnerabilities and exploits out there, as in the examples you mentioned. But I don't think the specific issue you have with Google app is an attempt by Google to spy on you. You say you don't hit voice search, but do you hit search at all? Also, if you have a launcher that has "OK Google" functionality (I don't), that might cause it, too. My phone (SPH-L710, Exodus, dkp) indicates that that Record Audio was triggered 114 times by Google app, which I estimate to be about the number of times I've hit search, and I hit search again and the number increased by one. Now, if you don't use search or have any "OK Google" functionality, then your Record Audio number is curious.
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I will look into that thanks for info. I know i accidently hit google search maybe 5 to 10 times a day but it still seems high. Dont really care since its blocking it anyway but i will try other browser and see if that helps. Just dont know why its trying to use voice on regular searches still seems wrong. I know its nothing personal to spy on me alone. They are probably fairly spying on everyone lol! Nice to see a fellow DKP user!
@monsterpenguin5 did u get apn figured out?
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@monsterpenguin5 did u get apn figured out?
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I actually did. I've been busy actually using it so I apologize for not getting back here to update on it. I did have to do pretty much what you advised, with a new flash, new gapps, reboot. flash rom, flash gapps, flash apn, reboot. open apn settings and verify info. At least something close to that.
Thanks for the information, really appreciated. I am running it on liquidsmooth 4.4.4. at this time. I had other issues with 5.1 stuff. Also using BMS kernel.
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I actually did. I've been busy actually using it so I apologize for not getting back here to update on it. I did have to do pretty much what you advised, with a new flash, new gapps, reboot. flash rom, flash gapps, flash apn, reboot. open apn settings and verify info. At least something close to that.
Thanks for the information, really appreciated. I am running it on liquidsmooth 4.4.4. at this time. I had other issues with 5.1 stuff. Also using BMS kernel.
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Awesome! No worries, just checking on you to make sure i gave support. That sounds like a nice setup! If you need help with kernel tweaking let me know. Have a good day!
Have you had any luck using viper4android on cm12.1?
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Have you had any luck using viper4android on cm12.1?
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Honestly i have not tried yet. Im just using built in audiofx. But i heard viper was better. I would be happy to mess around with it though and let you know what i found if you would like me to. Im under the impression that many people are having problems with it right now with cm12.1. Have you tried? Any problems? if so do you have full busybox, selinux permissive, and switch compatibility mode in viper settings? let me know if you want me to try and report back to you. Thanks for participating in the thread, when i get more thanks will give you a :good:
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Honestly i have not tried yet. Im just using built in audiofx. But i heard viper was better. I would be happy to mess around with it though and let you know what i found if you would like me to. Im under the impression that many people are having problems with it right now with cm12.1. Have you tried? Any problems? if so do you have full busybox, selinux permissive, and switch compatibility mode in viper settings? let me know if you want me to try and report back to you. Thanks for participating in the thread, when i get more thanks will give you a :good:
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Haven't had time to mess around with it yet. I'm actually on AICP 10.0, which is based on CM 12.1. I think it's only officially supported for Android 5.0.2, but if you would give it a shot, that'd be great!

Is there some type of "permission manager"?

Hi!
Im currently using a Z1C with the MX Rom 8.50 (awesome rom btw). After years of using Cyanogenmod I wanted to give the stock firmware a try, and the MX Rom seemed to be even better, as it is based on stock but with additional functionality.
But what I am missing from CM: the possibility of cutting permissions of specific apps, even system apps. Because I dont want to give all my data to every app I have on my phone. With Cyanogenmod I even blocked the google play services and several other google system apps with that.
Is it possible to get this done by app, or is it somehow exclusive to Cyanogenmod and some other AOSP-based roms?
The MX Rom comes pre rooted with Super SU (but I think the most of you people alredy know that, haha).
Regards
Don't know this ROM myself, but you should be able to install the Xposed framework and use Xprivacy with it. Despite using CM myself, I still use it because it gives you a much more detailed control and apps don't force quit when some permissions are withdrawn.
Wow, thank you. I dont know much about the Xposed Framework as I never used it before (didnt even know that it exists before I used the MX Rom, because there it is already preinstalled).
Xprivacy seems to be pretty awesome, thank you for this!
Xprivacy is great, although it seems that the dev has abandoned it for his other project netguard (no-root firewall) and no, apps WILL fc if you don't know what you're doing..
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... and no, apps WILL fc if you don't know what you're doing..
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Yes sure, especially when taking away some of the "red" marked ones. But I was referring to some of the more "standard" permissions, since Xprivacy instead just uses fake data rather than just plain revoking the permission.

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