Is it only necessary when coming from ICS to JB or is it necessary to do when coming from a JB ROM to another JB ROM? In my SGS2 days it was factory data wipe, wipe cache, wipe delvik cache, and maybe a kernel cleaning script for good measure, but never touched my SD user content( PDFs, music, etc.).
Super wipe will erase everything( as indicated by the warning in CWM), if you don't think it did cuz you still see the files, try and open them, its a shell only, no content (still lists correct file sizes though???)
I found this out by trying to flash some alternate ROM firmware or kernels I had but couldn't get them to work.
Don't use those stupid superwipe .zip's.
They're running the same scripts as your recovery runs...potentially multiple times for the "LULZOMGCLEAN" factor. [Uh...not needed]
Even installing a rom wipes /system...but %90 of people say "lul wipe /system/ /data/ /cache/ /dalvik/ and then flash superwipe..."
(Yes, I realize a script has to be run for the .zip to wipe system...and the Rom dev MAY leave it out. Personally, if the developer of my rom doesn't even make a "wipe system" script in the .zip I would not use that rom.)
NOT necessary.
If you don't trust your recovery to do it's job...wipe everything with one wipe...
Maybe you should get a new one.
Jubakuba is right but rather than assume the ROM zip wipes /system I find it easier to just wipe it. I never have the problems that others do when they flash ROMs and I always do a factory reset from recovery and wipe system. And if a ROM requires Gapps I always reflash the Gapps after a new ROM update. May not be needed but has saved me from problems before and only takes a couple seconds. Wipe zips are for chimps.
jesusice said:
Jubakuba is right but rather than assume the ROM zip wipes /system I find it easier to just wipe it. I never have the problems that others do when they flash ROMs and I always do a factory reset from recovery and wipe system. And if a ROM requires Gapps I always reflash the Gapps after a new ROM update. May not be needed but has saved me from problems before and only takes a couple seconds. Wipe zips are for chimps.
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You have to flash Gapps after flashing a rom as they reside in /system/
FYI!
Jubakuba said:
You have to flash Gapps after flashing a rom as they reside in /system/
FYI!
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Right. Many ROMs like CM are supposed to have a script to preserve Gapps and they say that you don't need to flash Gapps after, say, updating to a new nightly but I've learned the hard way not to depend on it.
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After playing around with several ROM / kernel combinations I am looking to return to the latest stock Rom. I have the PC36IMG file on my SDcard and will be installing via ClockworkMod recovery. What is the proper procedure to ensure the cleanest possible installation? Im a bit scared of all the options in recovery such as all the format options in the partitions menu. Do I need to format everything? Will any files be carried over? I know I will need to re install Clockwork and SU app just want to make sure everything is as clean as possible. Thanks in advance.
cleanest possible? Flash this in recover. It wipes 100% of every every time.
Courtesy of Calk.
If you are just changing kernels, choose wipe catch and delv catch.
Changing to a different rom you need to wipe everything.
Thanks for the tip. I am running a custom kernel so I'd be looking to wipe all of those files as well as the ROM. The ROM I am using is just a re packaged RUU, does the RUU completely wipe all data or will I still need to manually wipe?
You should always manually wipe. I never count on something else to do it for me. When I am changing roms I always wipe data/factory reset, cache and davlick, plus I use calkulin's format all tool that the other responder to your question attached to his post. That way you know nothing will be left over. Before you do all that, remember to make a backup of your current configuration just in case something goes wrong. I have been bailed out by nandroid backup a few times.
Also one more thing, there is a Rom on here that is the latest stock already rooted which would make it much easier on you. You could just wipe and flash and still have SU and all other benefits of having root. Just a suggestion.
I found the stock rom thread. It has both odexed and deodexed version. Odexed will probably boot faster, but deodexed can be themed and/or modded. Heres the link: Stock 3.70 EVO Rooted
I reccommend clearing the cache, and then wiping the dalvik to ensure a clean rom. After that, just flash your rom. As always if you are unsure, you can backup your SD card.
I want to update my Unofficial CM10 +3.x Kernel to the latest update from Hashcode.
UNOFFICIAL CM10 + 3.x Kernel for Kindle Fire [09/16 CHARGING+]
When you do an update like this, do you wipe everything like I did when I first flashed the ROM? I mean, when I installed, I wiped system, factory reset, cache and dalvik cache. Then I flashed the ROM and then I flashed gapps.
So now I just want to update the OS, what do I need to wipe? And will I need to flash gapps again?
CAn't ask this in the development thread 'cause my n00b hat it still too shiney.
Thanks!
A question like this doesn't belong in the development thread because it isn't development related.
If you're going from one ROM to a different one, you need to wipe System and Factory Reset (data and cache).
If the ROM is simply an update of an existing ROM, generally all you need to wipe is data and cache. There are always exceptions to this so it's always a good idea to make a backup in case things turn sour.
After installation of the ROM you have the option to wipe cache and dalvik. It isn't required but not wiping them has been known to cause some bugginess.
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A question like this doesn't belong in the development thread because it isn't development related.
If you're going from one ROM to a different one, you need to wipe System and Factory Reset (data and cache).
If the ROM is simply an update of an existing ROM, generally all you need to wipe is data and cache. There are always exceptions to this so it's always a good idea to make a backup in case things turn sour.
After installation of the ROM you have the option to wipe cache and dalvik. It isn't required but not wiping them has been known to cause some bugginess.
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Thank you once again, soupmagnet. Yeah this is just an update to my current ROM. So .... I won't need to flash gapps again?
I'm slowly figuring this stuff out. hehehe... When I was 30 I picked this stuff up quick. Turning 60 on Thursday and stuff tends to need a little more pondering lately. hahaha
Anywho.... thanks
Oh, yeah. You need to flash Gapps if you wipe system.
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Oh, yeah. You need to flash Gapps if you wipe system.
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OK, see, now you're messin' with the old man here... hehehe
On one hand I'm hearing if I am only updating my current ROM, I just wipe data and cache.
Then you tell me I have to flash gapps if I wipe System.
But prior you said I only need to wipe system if I'm going from one ROM to a different ROM.
So.... I'm just updating my current ROM. I wipe data and cache, flash the updated ROM, wipe dalvik.... done...
no flash gapps, right?
I need to look at TWRP again to see exactly how it presents the choices. Don't be hatin' on the old guy for bein' dumb now.
OK, booted to TWRP. When I select Wipe my choices are : Cache, Dalvik Cache, Factory Reset, System and then External Storage. So... in your first answer to me when you said to go to a different ROM I should wipe "System and Factory Reset (data and cache)" it appears you are telling me that "System and Factory Reset" is another way of referring to "data and cache". Is that correct?
Gapps go in the /system/app folder so if you wipe the system partition, Gapps will go along with it.
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Gapps go in the /system/app folder so if you wipe the system partition, Gapps will go along with it.
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GAaaahhh..... I just wiped System and watched as it processed /system
and then I wiped Factory Reset and watched as it processed /data and /cache
So I guess that answers my confusion.
I have a AT&T Samsung Galaxy S3 (SGH-1747) that is running stock with root.
I have rooted my phone using the samsung toolkit located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746665
Since that toolkit flashed a CWM Based recovery I have installed ROM Manager and flashed CWM Recovery version 6.0.1.2
My questions are..
- with my current setup.. am I technically running the "Stock" samsung kernel?
- why would you want to flash a different kernel to your phone?
- and is it necessary to flash a different kernel in order to use certain custom roms?
- At first I was leaning towards flashing CM10 nightly but the more I look at it.. I want to flash PARANOIDANDROID 2.22 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818199
Is this rom fully compatible with my AT&T phone? and since i'm running stock with root, do I need to do anything special before flashing this rom? Factory reset? Wipe Data? I've already made a full nandroid backup.
Thank you!
- with my current setup.. am I technically running the "Stock" samsung kernel? I believe so
- why would you want to flash a different kernel to your phone? Different kernels do different things.. some have better batter life.. some let you OC and UC..
- and is it necessary to flash a different kernel in order to use certain custom roms?Well sometimes.. Well technically.. most kernels will work with most of the ROMS out there.. as long as you stay withing your phones threads.. But some ROMs have a kernal with them.. and some ROMS you need to flash your own kernel..
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- with my current setup.. am I technically running the "Stock" samsung kernel? I believe so
- why would you want to flash a different kernel to your phone? Different kernels do different things.. some have better batter life.. some let you OC and UC..
- and is it necessary to flash a different kernel in order to use certain custom roms?Well sometimes.. Well technically.. most kernels will work with most of the ROMS out there.. as long as you stay withing your phones threads.. But some ROMs have a kernal with them.. and some ROMS you need to flash your own kernel..
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Thank you for the reply.
On the rom i'm wanting to flash for my SGH-i747 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818199
The steps for flashing are as follows:
CWM: Install Zip: Rom: Download Here Make sure the file you download is PA-2.22-d2att.zip
CWM: Install Zip: Gapps: Download (These are the new ones)
CWM: Wipe Data/Factory Reset
CWM: Advanced/Wipe Dalvik Cache
Reboot and edit your Apps Dpi & Layout under Settings/Paranoid Settings - DO NOT RESTORE YOUR OLD PROPERTIES FOR NOW
Would i need to wipe data, factory reset, then also wipe dalvik cache BEFORE I install the rom and gapps since i'm running stock with root?
Thank you
i'm also reading that for paranoidandroid you must first flash CM10 then flash paranoid.. is this accurate?
umm.. not sure where you saw that you need to flash a CM rom before flashing the paranoid ROM..
I believe the Paranoid rom is based off CM
The instruction on the link you have, in my opinion, is wrong..
The way that i flash my roms is...
Wipe data/factory reset..
Wipe Cache
Wipe Dalvik
Format/Data
Fomat/System ( i think deletes backups) only do in emergency.aka optional step
Flash ROM
Flash Gapps.
THATS IT
Some people will wipe cache afer flashing a rom..
But if you wipe data/factory reset i believe deletes the ROM...
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umm.. not sure where you saw that you need to flash a CM rom before flashing the paranoid ROM..
I believe the Paranoid rom is based off CM
The instruction on the link you have, in my opinion, is wrong..
The way that i flash my roms is...
Wipe data/factory reset..
Wipe Cache
Wipe Dalvik
Format/Data
Fomat/System ( i think deletes backups) only do in emergency.aka optional step
Flash ROM
Flash Gapps.
THATS IT
Some people will wipe cache afer flashing a rom..
But if you wipe data/factory reset i believe deletes the ROM...
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If you are already running CM10 then you don't need to wipe Cache. Just dalvik and data. Im pretty sure thats what was confusing, since this is based off of CM10.
DarthDerron said:
If you are already running CM10 then you don't need to wipe Cache. Just dalvik and data. Im pretty sure thats what was confusing, since this is based off of CM10.
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yeah, I just keep reading and reading.. probably making this out to be more difficult than it really is just don't want to end up with a brick or anything.
I'm already on stock + root + latest CWM so I just need to put the files on my phone and flash but I believe these are the steps i need to take:
1- Download ROM and Gapps to internal sd card
2- Boot phone into recovery
3- WIPE Cache/Delvik/Data factory reset> Mounts and Storage- format system
4- Flash ROM and Gapps
I have a Samsung Galaxy Nexus GSM and have been trying to install the Paranoid Android flavor custom ROM, I had 2.22 installed not long ago but managed to screw it up when I updated it without clearing my security settings (I had a 4x4 pattern swipe which I couldn't enter with the update which restored it to 3x3 pattern) so I wiped and restored to stock 4.2. I'm now trying to re-install with any custom ROM but it's not working.
Whenever I install a ROM it seems to install ok but when I get to the boot screen it just hangs on the nexus/PA logo.
I've tried with:
Goo Manager
TWRP 2.2
TWRP 2.3
CWM 6.0.1.5
and with
PA 2.22
PA 2.99.1
PA 2.99.5
PA 2.99.6
PA 2.99.7
and I always get the same error, I've tried wiping all options within TWRP and CWM and going from there but that doesn't seem to work, the strange thing for me though is that if I re-install a stock Google ROM it works perfectly fine.
I'm fairly new so please be gentle.
flash the latest twrp and move the rom and gapps to your sdcard then follow this..
1. factory reset
2. wipe system
3. wipe cache
4. wipe dalvik
5. flash rom
6. flash gapps
7. reboot
if it still freezes at boot animation pull battery reboot to recovery wipe cache/dalvik and reboot
Thanks for the suggestion but that didn't work.
Any other suggestions?
When you say TWRP 2.3 do you mean 2.3.2.1? http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/90
Clockwork 6.0.1.5 is also outdated, newest is 6.0.1.9.
You need to update your recoveries for Android 4.2.X which is what PA 2.99 is based off of.
zephiK said:
When you say TWRP 2.3 do you mean 2.3.2.1?
Clockwork 6.0.1.5 is also outdated, newest is 6.0.1.9.
You need to update your recoveries for Android 4.2.X which is what PA 2.99 is based off of.
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Yes I did mean 2.3.2.1, I wasn't sure what the whole version number was at the time and I was halfway through resetting up stock on my phone at the time so I didn't bother to check exactly. sorry about that.
Is there a way to completely wipe everything on the phone so that it is bare stock? I was just wondering if I would be able to start from a clean phone if it would make any difference. I'm aware of cache/delvik cache/internal storage/(i think it's called "system partition" or something like that).
Using TWRP, wiping cache, dalvik, and system should wipe everything except the sdcard contents. So doing these wipes should make your phone "bare stock" again as you described
Why don't you try downloading another custom ROM or download the same ROM again because maybe it is corrupted or something
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Yes I did mean 2.3.2.1, I wasn't sure what the whole version number was at the time and I was halfway through resetting up stock on my phone at the time so I didn't bother to check exactly. sorry about that.
Is there a way to completely wipe everything on the phone so that it is bare stock? I was just wondering if I would be able to start from a clean phone if it would make any difference. I'm aware of cache/delvik cache/internal storage/(i think it's called "system partition" or something like that).
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RANT: huh..... seriously? you couldn't have browsed around, searching for this COMMON issue (which usually comes down to user "error"), read the STICKIES, before posting?
first, internal storage = /data/media aka /storage/sdcard0/ aka /sdcard/
Please read all of this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1626895
Whats the diffrence between dirty and clean flash?
azoga said:
Whats the diffrence between dirty and clean flash?
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A clean flash is when you wipe every thing clean. A dirty flash typically is when you don't wipe /data and update to a newer version of the same rom and same android version.
There are plenty of variables that people will do differently:
A normal clean flash will entail wiping/formatting system(often done automatically in the rom installer-script), data, cache, and dalvik/art cache. You can also wipe internal storage(internal sd card/sd card 0), android secure, preload for an ultra-clean flash(not usually needed). Obviously the downside is you will need to install and set up all the apps you want from scratch. Using backup tools like Titanium Backup can help here, but also can lead to problems.....
A dirty flash is normally just rebooting to recovery and flashing the newer nightly and rebooting again with no wipes. A lot of people wipe cache and dalvik/art cache before rebooting. This(dirty flashing) is only advisable if the rom you are flashing is of the same android version and an update that is fairly close to the existing rom. There can potentially be all sorts of issues when you dirty flash due to major changes in the code. The rule of thumb is if you dirty flash and start getting strange issues, then a clean flash will normally solve them.
BTW: If you leave a brief description of your question in the thread title you may get more responses and help others who have similar questions