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Hi guys, i am getting a universal from the UK in about 2 weeks and i have some questions.
1. Is it unlockable yet?
2. Is bluetooth stable, not cutting off during calls and stuff?
3. Since it is WCDMA, does that mean i can use it with CDMA services here in the states like sprint and Verizon?
4. What is the best case for it
Thanks for reading my questions, you replies will be greatly appreciated.
obiesoft said:
Hi guys, i am getting a universal from the UK in about 2 weeks and i have some questions.
1. Is it unlockable yet?
2. Is bluetooth stable, not cutting off during calls and stuff?
3. Since it is WCDMA, does that mean i can use it with CDMA services here in the states like sprint and Verizon?
4. What is the best case for it
Thanks for reading my questions, you replies will be greatly appreciated.
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Hi Obiesoft,
1. Not yet to my knowledge... Keep an eye on the 'universal' unlocker from this forum. An app that is updated over and over to add support for new phones.
2. Did not try yet, sorry, one of the other ones ?
3. Most likely not. UMTS here in Europe is on 2100 Mhz, as radio bands are of course regulated per country, you might want to see with your wireless provider if they a) use 'UMTS or WCDMA' as a standard, and b) if they also operate on the 2100 Mhz band. In the phone there is only one band available for UMTS connections.
GSM in general is provided in bigger cities in the states, you have to check which wireless provider has it in your area, some might even have the Qtek 9000 with an interesting price if you take one of their plans.
(T-Mobile) Be carefull nevertheless, the USA has GSM services on 1900 Mhz and on 850 Mhz, the Universal can do w/o a problem the 1900 Mhz band, but to my knowledge not the 850 Mhz band. You would be out of luck if your cellular provider only provides services on this band. Check also if you have to be a lot in rural areas, as far as I notices coverage there is way less on GSM systems.
4. I'm happy with the 'leatherishlike' one it comes with. Sleek, and it does protect it very well. Snug, just no belt-clip, that's all.
Hope you'll be having fun with your device ! (Well, all depends of course if you can get it either sim-unlocked or from one of your local providers...)
Willem
Thanks
Thanks for your reply
I hope there will be an unlocker soon, i have Tmobile here in Florida, i will call to find out of they use 1900 or 850Mhz. I will probably try asking Tmobile UK or something.
The reason for me asking if it will work with USA CDMA is that i also have an account with a CDMA provider so it would be cool if i could use two providers on one phone, probably switching between them.
I have a MDAIII with WM5 and the bluetooth does not work, keeps d/c so i hope this one stays on with the MDA PRO.
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obiesoft said:
Thanks for your reply
I hope there will be an unlocker soon, i have Tmobile here in Florida, i will call to find out of they use 1900 or 850Mhz. I will probably try asking Tmobile UK or something.
The reason for me asking if it will work with USA CDMA is that i also have an account with a CDMA provider so it would be cool if i could use two providers on one phone, probably switching between them.
I have a MDAIII with WM5 and the bluetooth does not work, keeps d/c so i hope this one stays on with the MDA PRO.
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I know that T-Mobile Germany sells the device w/o SIMlock. Might be an option. The QTEK versions of the device come also w/o SIMlock. I don't know if T-Mobile Germany ships the device outside europe, you might want to have a look at http://www.expansys-usa.com, they have a Spanish version of the QTEK you can easily reflash to the WWE version, new and not locked for a whopping 1045 USD.
P.S. I have no commercial relation to either T-Mobile or Expansys and both links are provided only for informational purposes.
Obiesoft, I have PM'd you.
simlock
t-mobile.germany has no SimLock - that's right!
but they did a NETLock!! - you#ve got to pay 100-300 € to get it unlocked for other networks. If You know where to find Band-Information i can tell you if it supports yours.
Universal is not working on CDMA One/CDMA 2000/EVDO networks.
In US, it will work for voice calls and GPRS on the 1900 networks like T-Mobile US. You will have to wait for T-Mobile US to launch UMTS (WCDMA) as it is planned, but I'm not sure they will use the same bands as in Europe.
MDA PRO
I did not check here sooner, my girlfriend is in london and she got the MDA PRO since she just renewed her contract. I am guessing it will be locked cause she is just shipping it and i will get it next week. Tmobile UK said they can unlock it for 15 pounds and it will take 28 days, so in the mean time i am hoping there is another way for me to unlock it.
I'm considering purchasing the Defy. (completely in love with the idea of a waterproof phone)
I live in US and have AT&T. Seen topics about the T-Mobile version working on AT&T's 3G bands.
I plan on purchasing one from eBay and my question is, should I get the american "T-Mobile" version or should I get a European version. Which one has more/better roms available? Does the European version work on AT&T 3G? I'm a fan of the all black UK version as well. Are there any other hardware differences besides color of the phone?
Thanks alot! Hope to be visiting these defy forums more often!
Ok, if you buy the American (T-Mo?) you should be able to use it on AT&T 3G through the 850 freq, and of course, on T-Mo.
http://androidforums.com/t/217819-t-mo-motorola-defy-working-t-3g-850-band-only.html
You will also be able to use it on the most common international freq, 2100. Looked at the Euro spec phone on the Moto site and they do not appear to be able to work on any USA 3G.
The USA T-Mo branded phone seems to be far less likely to developed the "failed earpiece", if that is even still an issue with current production.
Also, there is a thread with people complaining that the all black phone is structurally "cheaper". Maybe it's an appearance thing. Of course, the T-mo branded phone comes with wifi calling which you cannot use on AT&T... but should you ever switch...
Awesome! Thank you very much for the information.
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Awesome! Thank you very much for the information.
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Remember, I'm only passing on info on the 850 band but have never tried myself.
I'm getting sickband tired of all these us delays for the phone. At this point I'm thinking of just purchasing the UK phone and importing it to the US. Is the UK version same as the unlocked phone I would buy here in the states eventually? I have tmobile and as far as I know all unlocked nexus phone are same? Is that true? Also, where can I buy online in UK that will ship to the US?
Nvm wrong forum.
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1) yes it will work.
2) read every other thread in this forum for information on pre-ordering if you choose to do so.
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quierotacobell said:
No, different bands, but it'll work att. I mean it'll work but not 4g, 2g will work fine.
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This is false. It will work on T-mobile 3G, AT&T 3G, and most other GSM networks in the world.
what about hpsa+. Aren't they the same too?
wasya152 said:
what about hpsa+. Aren't they the same too?
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They are the same. The phone is pentaband HSPA+. It'll get HSPA+ anywhere its available pretty much.
So to be clarify, the UK phone is basically same as unlocked nexus here and everything will work like 3g and 4g/hpsa+ here as well. What about updates. When Google pushes ota updates, will I get those same time as everyone else in states.
wasya152 said:
So to be clarify, the UK phone is basically same as unlocked nexus here and everything will work like 3g and 4g/hpsa+ here as well. What about updates. When Google pushes ota updates, will I get those same time as everyone else in states.
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The UK Galaxy Nexus is the unlocked Galaxy Nexus. There is no "UK" version. Its just being sold in the UK.
Everything will work juuuust fine. Just put your SIM in it.
Ok problem is, looks like there is some sort of delay there too
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BiGMERF said:
Ok problem is, looks like there is some sort of delay there too
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Mmmm... no. Downright confirmed to be sold on the 17th in the UK at most carriers and retailers (as of earlier today).
One nexus for all frequencies?
So, just to get a clear answer, will there only be one Galaxy Nexus to cover all GSM carriers, even for 3G?
I remember buying my Nexus One (which I'm still using) and I had to be careful to buy the correct variant so that I could use it back in Europe... only the T-Mobile variant would work.
My colleagues who have relocated to California have a few Android devices, including a couple of Nexus S, but since they purchased them in Europe they can't get 3G since the European Nexus S doesn't have AT&T's 3G frequencies, it would only work on T-mobile US.
I'm from Europe (but travelling for a couple of weeks in the US), so I was hoping to buy a couple of them to take home for myself and my girlfriend, but I don't see any sign of it being released for T-Mobile US, so I guess I'm going to have to fork out the outrageous money for one when I get home to the UK... £519 (= $820)
dsample said:
So, just to get a clear answer, will there only be one Galaxy Nexus to cover all GSM carriers, even for 3G?
I remember buying my Nexus One (which I'm still using) and I had to be careful to buy the correct variant so that I could use it back in Europe... only the T-Mobile variant would work.
My colleagues who have relocated to California have a few Android devices, including a couple of Nexus S, but since they purchased them in Europe they can't get 3G since the European Nexus S doesn't have AT&T's 3G frequencies, it would only work on T-mobile US.
I'm from Europe (but travelling for a couple of weeks in the US), so I was hoping to buy a couple of them to take home for myself and my girlfriend, but I don't see any sign of it being released for T-Mobile US, so I guess I'm going to have to fork out the outrageous money for one when I get home to the UK... £519 (= $820)
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The Nexus One and Nexus S were quadband, meaning that they only worked on the specific carrier frequencies they were designed for. For that reason there were specific T-mobile US versions because T-mo uses 1700/2100 (AWS) for 3G rather than the 1900 standard many other carriers in the world use.
The Galaxy Nexus is pentaband HSPA+, meaning that there is one model that will work everywhere in the world. Yes even on 3G (or "4G" if the carrier calls HSPA+ that). You'll be able to buy the unlocked Galaxy Nexus in the UK and use it in the US on any of the GSM carriers here (AT&T, T-mo, Simple, regionals).
[Q] No sim...sim..Which nexus do i need for t-mobile?
I want to buy a Galaxy Nexus overseas but not sure what i need to use on t-mobile...Is the no sim mean no sim slot or what?
STi489 said:
I want to buy a Galaxy Nexus overseas but not sure what i need to use on t-mobile...Is the no sim mean no sim slot or what?
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no sim just means that its not provided with a contract or a sim card for a carrier, instead its just the phone unlocked full price that you use with any carrier.
as for what you need just check the bands that the carrier use vs what the phone has the galaxy nexus is pentaband tho so it will most likely work with pretty much all carriers globally
STi489 said:
I want to buy a Galaxy Nexus overseas but not sure what i need to use on t-mobile...Is the no sim mean no sim slot or what?
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"no SIM" just means it is contract/service free. You want that. It's just the phone, no strings.
noobdeagle said:
as for what you need just check the bands that the carrier use vs what the phone has the galaxy nexus is pentaband tho so it will most likely work with pretty much all carriers globally
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The pentaband HSPA+ version will work just fine on T-mobile.
[Q] Which UK company will US Tmo users buy from?
What is the best UK company we, T-Mobile US users, can order a HSDPA+ 3g Nexus Galaxy?
Preferably with no taxes and shipping to US.
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the Non LTE version should work just fine
just make sure it has 1700/2100 bands in it
AllGamer said:
the Non LTE version should work just fine
just make sure it has 1700/2100 bands in it
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Seems like he's asking for a specific site or company to buy the phone from. I'm interested too.
martonikaj said:
"no SIM" just means it is contract/service free. You want that. It's just the phone, no strings.
The pentaband HSPA+ version will work just fine on T-mobile.
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I've been reading the last few comments and decided to speak up. First I want to say thank you, even though I didn't ask the questions myself, but the questions asked I had myself.
Now, I am a Sprint customer. Clearly no sign of this coming to us anytime soon if at all. I have a Nexus S 4G and I am aware it'll get the update soon enough, but I am wanting the Galaxy Nexus so bad that I am considering ordering the one released in the UK. Now I noticed the "sim free" or "no sim" means it is contract free. I assume I have to at least have some type of service with Magenta to even use it if I order it right? Also, let's say I already was a T-Mobile customer and I had a UK released Galaxy Nexus ported here in the US which comes SIM free, all I would have to do is put my SIM from my previous android phone (whatever that would be) inside the Galaxy Nexus and it would get service right? The phone itself would still be off contract right? The SIM is just for service so I can actually use it as a phone. And it all comes down to the consumers data plans, etc on how they can use it right?
I hope I wasn't confusing.
Thanks in advanced.
martonikaj said:
Mmmm... no. Downright confirmed to be sold on the 17th in the UK at most carriers and retailers (as of earlier today).
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Yes, available with carriers today.
If you want a SIM-free handset (which by the looks of it, the OP does) then you will have to wait until next week at the earliest since the SIM-free stock has been delayed.
does anyone know where I can purchase the unlocked version so I can get it shipped to US asap
I have a pre order that is supposed to ship on Wednesday but now after reading about the issue with the volume turning down on its own and that it might be a hardware problem it really scares me to keep my pre order since i am in canada and it would probably be a pain in the a$$ if samsung/google issued a recall.
What would you guys do?
Thanks
Kris
so far it looks like it is only affecting users that have SIM cards that use the 900MHz frequency band, so if you are with any of the following:
O2
Vodafone
giffgaff
Tesco Mobile
or any network that piggybacks on O2 or Vodafone frequencies
then you will have an issue.
if you're on Orange, 3 or T-Mobile, you should be fine.
Like i said i am in canada so i won't be using any of those, i will be using bell mobility and i am not sure what bands they use.
It should be OK then on Telstra's 850MHz NextG network. I'm not cancelling my order. Worst case scenario is selling it unopened on ebay if issue not solved within a week.
atomic_dude said:
It should be OK then on Telstra's 850MHz NextG network. I'm not cancelling my order. Worst case scenario is selling it unopened on ebay if issue not solved within a week.
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And on eBay you will probably make a profit
@OP...Also, you have to understand while reading forum sites, you are most likely to hear more complaints and issues than the "everythings great" thread. Im importing too, but no matter who, where and when you order there will always be a risk. Think positive and just enjoy your GN, dont be scared!
If you're in Canada, why not just wait a couple weeks and get it locally?
They're going to be selling a HSPA+ version in Canada.. Bell and Rogers are both going to get it..
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/11/14/bell-confirms-samsung-galaxy-nexus-early-december-release/
That way you'll be able to return it locally if you encounter a problem.
I certainly understand being impatient, but in your case it has already been announced for your carrier and should be available in the next 2-3 weeks..
Just something to think about.
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It should be OK then on Telstra's 850MHz NextG network. I'm not cancelling my order. Worst case scenario is selling it unopened on ebay if issue not solved within a week.
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Next G is 850 MHz but Telstra's 2G is 900 MHz (and also 1800 MHz but that is being phased out).
Next G coverage is pretty good but if you find yourself in an area with poor coverage you may drop back to 2G 900 MHz and get hit by SAV.
yup it only looks like it affects 900mhz. Im on fido which only uses 850 and 1900 so should be good!!!
Bummer, I just cancelled my Amazon pre-order for Handtec and changed from T-Mobile to GiffGaff...
I was browsing Negri today, when I noticed they had the Galaxy Nexus for $459.50, the NTT Docomo version. Not sure if it's connected, but it looks like the same price as the Daily Steals sale from yesterday. The specs says it's the same as the other versions, except it has a small logo on the back. I suppose this is good news for anybody who missed the sale yesterday. I'm not sure how long Negri will have this, but hopefully permanent.
It says unlocked but will it work the same as the i9250 unbranded version for T-Mobile USA?
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huyha707 said:
It says unlocked but will it work the same as the i9250 unbranded version for T-Mobile USA?
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It should work just fine. The radio specs are the same, and if they're unlocking it before they send it to you then there's no issue. The problem before was breaking the SIM lock on the DoCoMo version.
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And I just spent near $600 on ordering the Canadian version lol.
supposedly the docomo version only supports 800/2100 bands so it is not the same as the pentaband unlocked version
norazi said:
supposedly the docomo version only supports 800/2100 bands so it is not the same as the pentaband unlocked version
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The bands are listed as the same on Negri
Edit: What is NTT Docomo anyways?
Yeah it seems the same. Anyone with the device can confirm or not? Also are these builds the same as the other yakju? Will I be able to root, flash roms etc the same as if I got the i9250 version of the phone?
Ngo93 said:
The bands are listed as the same on Negri
Edit: What is NTT Docomo anyways?
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Japanese carrier.
vibrant808 said:
Yeah it seems the same. Anyone with the device can confirm or not? Also are these builds the same as the other yakju? Will I be able to root, flash roms etc the same as if I got the i9250 version of the phone?
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They're explicitly saying in the product details and on Twitter its yakju. If it isn't you can always flash it to yakju.
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norazi said:
supposedly the docomo version only supports 800/2100 bands so it is not the same as the pentaband unlocked version
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Where do you see that?
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I wanted to buy the white version yesterday, but by the time I got to work and had time to look again... it was sold out.
So this morning when I could get the BLACK version, I jumped on it. I loaded CWM's ICS on my Atrix, but don't feel it's quite right, and so I'm gonna put 2.3.4 back on the Atrix and continue to use it with the laptop dock.
I'm thinking on buying this Galaxy Nexus Docomo version, but I have some doubts.
I've read everywere that this phone is exactly the same as the i9250 version, same 2g and 3g networks (pentaband), GSM extended battery fits, and so on. Chatting with a negri electronics rep, he also confirmed me it is the same phone and it even cames with the yakju build, meaning it is updated by google and not Docomo.
What still bugs me a bit is why would they name it different? (SC-04D)..
Will I be able to flash any ROM, baseband, kernel as if I was using the international i9250 version?
Yeah, i'm a bit paranoid, but any information/clarification would be grately appreciated.
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etche said:
I'm thinking on buying this Galaxy Nexus Docomo version, but I have some doubts.
I've read everywere that this phone is exactly the same as the i9250 version, same 2g and 3g networks (pentaband), GSM extended battery fits, and so on. Chatting with a negri electronics rep, he also confirmed me it is the same phone and it even cames with the yakju build, meaning it is updated by google and not Docomo.
What still bugs me a bit is why would they name it different? (SC-04D)..
Will I be able to flash any ROM, baseband, kernel as if I was using the international i9250 version?
Yeah, i'm a bit paranoid, but any information/clarification would be grately appreciated.
Thanks
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It could be that the SC-04D designation was chosen to be separate in order to register it separately in Japan with their equivalent of the CRTC/FCC.
I can tell you that SC-04D radio files work fine on the i9250. So I would think the reverse is true as well.
I have read and saw a Youtube vid, The DOCOMO Gnex has a Docomo ROM installed, Negri says the only difference is the logo on the back. Can anyone confirm. The price of $459 seems to good to be true.
Both the SC-04D and the gsm i9250 share the same hardware, I think, except the SC-04D does not have the 900mhz band. The price is quite good but you have to be sure your carrier does not use the 900mhz band before you decide to purchase the SC-04D, otherwise you may receive a weak to no signal when you need to make a phone call.
Have you verified this?
Or is it possible the Japanese radio software is what locks out that band?
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My carrier is using the bands of 900/1800/2100. I got my SC-04D yesterday. Just ran a little test with my DOCOMO SC-04D and the GALAXY S2, both of them locked at 900mhz from service mode. It seems that the SC-04D is giving me weaker signal, say 0-40% whereas the S2 is giving me full signal. I believe it is due to the missing 900mhz band from the SC-04D. I will run a few tests tomorrow at different places and see how well it will go.
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cmstlist said:
Have you verified this?
Or is it possible the Japanese radio software is what locks out that band?
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Well, when I flashed to other custom roms and radio/basebands, I got the options the choose which bands to use under service mode (*#*#4636#*#*). I could choose the GSM 900 band, but I am not sure if it really worked as I am only receiving a very weak signal compare with my S2 in full bar signal. I am able to use both phone to surf the net and make phone calls. But the unlocked DOCOMO SC-04D is not very stable. I guess I will give it a few days to observe.
Are you saying the SC-04 firmware has a mode to select individual frequency bands? The i9250 doesn't.
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Negri told me that it was pentaband, so it should have the 900mhz band. I don't think they would confirm me such a thing without knowing for sure.
@Zatire. There a lot of threads saying that galaxy nexus has crappy radios, so maybe that's the cause you are having bad signal. If it didn't have the 900mhz band, it's shouldn't even get 1 bar, don't you think? (saying you locked your phone to only use that band...)
It doesn't matter if it comes with Docomo's ROM, because you can flash original Google ROM from AOSP.
i ordered both the dailysteals gnex ($465 for european unlocked version) AND the negri gnex ($460 docomo version)... i should have both in my hands next week. any tests you guys me to run to compare the two? i am on tmobile tzones
if the docomo verison has issues i will sell that and keep the dailysteals version... if both are identical then i will sell whichever i think looks better in person (white vs silver)