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So, yesterday, I decided to finally jump into the abyss and try to root my Evo. Luckily, everything went completely smooth the first time (never had that happen with any other device). I was actually surprised how easy this root was.
Anyway...my question is, if I decide to flash another ROM on my phone, or rather, in 10 minutes WHEN I flash another ROM onto my phone, if I decide I don't like it, how do I reflash my original NANDROID backup back onto the phone?
I was able to navigate on my SD to where the backup was saved, but shouldn't it be a ZIP file or something? I only have individual backup files.
Also, sorry for the noob question.
Thanks in advance for your help
You go into recovery to do a nandroid restore. Its not something you flash. There is an option for backups and restore. You just run those. I like to do a full wipe before a restore though, just in case. Oh, and keep your backups in the original folder, thats where recovery will get them from
I appreciate the quick response! Thanks
No prob, hope it helped
It definitely helped to get back to the stock ROM, but now it appears as though no other ROMs are working for me. I've tried MIUI and MikFroyo, and they both get stuck in boot loops. There's something I'm apparently not doing right. Hmmm.
Did you wipe data/cache/dalvik before flashing the roms?
mosesport said:
It definitely helped to get back to the stock ROM, but now it appears as though no other ROMs are working for me. I've tried MIUI and MikFroyo, and they both get stuck in boot loops. There's something I'm apparently not doing right. Hmmm.
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Are you updated to the latest Radio and pri? You have to check what version you have and what version you need to flash the rom you want to use. That is most likely the problem. I know older kernels do not like the new radio or pri. You probably have to update them and you should be fine.
First let me say...its been awhile since I have posted here, I love the auto search based on the title of a post lol. That is awesome. Needless to say I didn't find anything related to my issue...
Here we go,
I have had my phone rooted forever and a day. I have only ever used fresh roms since It's been rooted. ( about a week after launch ) The issue popped up about a few months or so ago with one of his updates. No matter how i tried to download or install it would always bootloop. I have done the full data, dalvic, cache wipes and got the same results. I figured *f* it and just went back to my nandroid of the old version and forgot about it.
There have been several releases that I have tried from fresh that did the same thing. I figured tonight I would try the synergy rom for something new and to see if my phone would take it. I was using clockwork mod for my recovery. I did a nandroid of my phone and away I went.
I flashed amon_ra since that is synergy's recovery of choice and went through the whole process.
3 hours later...here I am with a phone still stuck in a bootloop when i try the rom and now I learned for some reason that amon_ra nandroid restore is not compatiable with the ones from clockwork that i have on my phone. *quick edit* I have also tried downloading several other roms, and am having the same issues.....even tried redownloading the same roms several times thinking it was a corrupt download or something.
There was one restore available that took me back to what seems to be an unrooted phone. I still have access to the recovery and am able to flash roms, but all the sprint crap is back and I don;t have superuser on the phone anymore.
So there is my story. I am an old hand at flashing and know how to wipe and all that before installing and i seem stuck to use this OG sprint crap for the rest of my contract, unless one of you wonderful phone guru's can point me in the right direction.
~owl
There's a thread here with the SU 3.0
install that, go to menu in the app, make sure that permission is toggled on
HipKat said:
There's a thread here with the SU 3.0
install that, go to menu in the app, make sure that permission is toggled on
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Well at least i can get SU back on the device...
any more advice as to why the phone is refusing to flash any rom??
Maybe try a superwipe script or wipe everything like boot and all except SD card
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Maybe try a superwipe script or wipe everything like boot and all except SD card
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I usually wipe everything 3 times in Amon then a superwipe zip after that.
Gotta be clean
YEah, do a wipe of everything except SDCard: and Battery stats, if you're not fully charged. Wipe Cache and Dalvik-Cache a few times each. I don't use superwipes myself, but anyhow, after that, flash a stock ROM. Make a nandroid of it, if your phone boots up fine.
Then go back, wipe everything again and flash the ROM you want to use.
I really want to thank all of you that have taken the time to post some ideas here for me, but as of right now I have had no love from my phone with any of them.
It will flash a radio just fine, flash wimax fine as well, but no love for the ROMS.
Anymore ideas out there??
Alright I going keep this simple. I checked all over the forum and can't find a sollution. My devs told me to come here and told me no one else has this issue.
Following is my specs. s3, running twrp 2.3.3.1 have sense it came out. I have a 32 gig SD card patriot. I am running super su (note that)
I use TB backup normal. I run inverted Gapps, normaly.
My attempts to fix.
Did a clean install, format system, factory data reset, cache, dalvik in TWRP. I installed rootbox, I installed normal Gapps 20121212, then
Get to home screen I dont reinstall anything except
TB backup, Root Tool box, and updated super su (which might be installed wrong)
anyways I reboot to back up when there done and poof Roottoolbox is no longer there, though icon is still there. Missing app.... icon still there WTF
TB lost its cousin TB pro (key) but TB is there.... wtf
Oh and super su lost its update as did gapps updates
All missing
Also I can reinstall apps restart again and BAM apps missing again same ones same updates.
Is this something I could of done in android comander? I use droid manager and droid explore too..
Never had a issue back on 4.1 jellybam I flased a few roms 4.2 roms..
baked bean, aokp , cm10 tried them now im on rootbox
I did flash the broken jellybam 5.1 a bunch times trying get to work (shrug) dunno if that matters and I flashed from 4.1 to 4.2 a lot of times
I assume some folder got moved its like my system picks apps to move to certain places
OR maybe I installed backed up apps with android comander somewhere i shouldn't so now I can't install them again (though flashing clean install should fixed everything)
Give me some ideas please thank you
I never had a issue that clean install didn't fix so Im worried. I still have old backup on my computer of before the problem started but there 4.1 roms and I don't wana compound my issues so I wait untill I get reply to try anything crazy
I think I know whats wrong I explored a bit and i dunno my data/data folder is FULL of old stuff I guess I asumed it got cleaned out with system wipe in TWRP
So my question is .... assuming im going to do a reinstall what should I wipe to clean out my system folders? I don't want to clean my SD card just the system I want a true fresh install thank you
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I think I know whats wrong I explored a bit and i dunno my data/data folder is FULL of old stuff I guess I asumed it got cleaned out with system wipe in TWRP
So my question is .... assuming im going to do a reinstall what should I wipe to clean out my system folders? I don't want to clean my SD card just the system I want a true fresh install thank you
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my advice to you is clean up all partitions by using odin to flash back to stock, reroot, custom recovery and start flashing again. seems like your partitions need a cleaning bud, I'm 99% sure this will solve your problem.
p.s. wiping in recovery is not the same thing as odin back to stock, a full odin flash back to stock will fix EVERY partition on your phone and really clean things up. You can even do a full wipe after the odin to stock to really make sure your system is clean.
also use sdmaid (root app) to clean out your sdcard of crap
Danvdh said:
my advice to you is clean up all partitions by using odin to flash back to stock, reroot, custom recovery and start flashing again. seems like your partitions need a cleaning bud, I'm 99% sure this will solve your problem.
p.s. wiping in recovery is not the same thing as odin back to stock, a full odin flash back to stock will fix EVERY partition on your phone and really clean things up. You can even do a full wipe after the odin to stock to really make sure your system is clean.
also use sdmaid (root app) to clean out your sdcard of crap
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Any chance you got a link to advise me on how to do that? I havn't ever gone back to stock...
Odin or mobile odin? Im assuming Normal odin. hmpf sounds good to me but maybe i shouldn't do it at 1:52 am
xxsicknessxx said:
Any chance you got a link to advise me on how to do that? I havn't ever gone back to stock...
Odin or mobile odin? Im assuming Normal odin. hmpf sounds good to me but maybe i shouldn't do it at 1:52 am
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Get your stock firmware 4.0.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968625
use this toolkit to guide you through everything, it will basically teach you how to use odin, I recommend it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746665
FOLLOW ON SCREEN INSTRUCTIONS, don't get ahead of yourself, the tool kit tells you what to do.
root and install custom recovery afterwords using the toolkit
once again, FOLLOW ON SCREEN INSTRUCTIONS, don't get ahead of yourself, the tool kit tells you what to do.
once you boot up just factory reset inside the rom, reboot into recovery (toolkit will do it for you if you choose the setting) and start flashing again
also don't forget to reflash the latest modem for your carrier, found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831898
also, I think you should format your sd card, just back up ALL your important stuff on your PC and move it back after, you will REALLY clean stuff up big time,
-I have to flash modem?
-Do I need a kernal?
-I cant use any of my backups after I do this right?
Last but not least I have my stock backup before I started flashing that isn't going to help right? Whats ever messed up im going need to do this all the way right?
Anyways I figure it can't hurt but I gotta make sure I get perfect directions I can follow but if I have guess on anything im doomed. I downloading the stock file now (I think right one its ATT) doesn't say d2att but I assume ATT means that all 3 recoverys are for d2att
anyways you helped me a bunch using search I know I can figure the rest out im going download everything get sleep and attemt in morning I come back let ya know if I get back to running.
Funny this problem effecs so few apps just a couple I must done something wrong. I don't get how anything can live past system wipe in TWRP... I mean it deletes system files right? They get replaced by my new roms files I thought but instead they seem like they get left over every time i wipe... I dunno why. If this don't work im using my warrenty
how come i cant just wipe data then install a fresh rom off my sd card? or could my recovery be messed up also.... (dam) i guess this makes sense oh well lol
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Thanks a bunch man.
Every once in awhile someone really is helpfull on this forum and its cool when it happens. *Tips his hat* thanks
I already formated my sd card (will do it again if nessisery)
Just did it few seconds ago figured might help. umm only other question now is.. do I need flash kernal or is that included... and also the s3 toolkit (I have it already) and have used it I only sounds like a noob I just confused at this issue. Umm it doesn't have my specific model will that be a issue? I know it has i747 but not samsung galaxy i747 att
or does not matter only the i747 part needs be right only asking so i don't F up
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i747 is at&t
i747m is Canada
T999 is tmobile
that should help you out, also, the odin flash covers every partition. kernel, rom, modem etc. you will need to flash a custom kernel after your rooted and have a custom recovery. I would do a little bit more research, flash the rom in my sig (my own rom) when your up and running and use it as a daily driver untill you figure things out a little bit more with some good ol reading :highfive:
that was a long download. I know what im kinda doing. I done same thing on my S2 reverted it to sell. The only difference is my S3 is a girl about things. my s2 could take anything.
Anyways I had a long night.. i dunno what problem IS but I think has to do with me having android comander and backing up my APKs to my computer and my phone. and reinstalling apps with bolth programs.
Its so easy to use Android comander that I dunno maybe I been installing apps in wrong places and it finaly caught up to me
Or maybe phone defective.. *shrug* dunno others had my issues too but no fixes really. Nothing solid.
I give your idea a try but I did just wipe data, wipe system factory data and bla bla nothing helps it still happens. the same dam 3 apps too... over and over jezzzz
Thanks for help Im to tired to continue was just waiting for the reocvery to finish later
Anyone answer this.
If I format everything in Twrp all my
system/system/app folders
system/data/app folders
data/data/ folders
And so forth do they get delete and new one put in there place
do they get over written and merge with the ones from last rom
nothing happens to them?
I need to know. And this Full Recovery via odin the guy above says to do will it really get rid of them? all Not leave stuff behind
I think this is my problem if it isn't then its a faulty phone but problems just started so i think its something i did on acciednt
Even though I installed newest TWRP sometimes its like Settings get left over even after a full wipe. Including data (did last night)
Did data, system, cache , dalvik, factory reset, I even formated SD card
Then reindtall rom downloded rom manager. restarted and poof gone and left behind short cut on the desktop
So wtf ? and settings won't stick they revert back default like it can't remember **** its been smoking weed i bet... dam phone
any ideas help or will flashing odin fix this because i don't wana mess phone up worse
Wait..did you format internal SD?
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jasvncnt1 said:
Wait..did you format internal SD?
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I took bolth out first trasferd exSD and formated on my computer... then after I did a DATA WIPE in TWRP which is a format of interneal sd card (correct?)
Just to see if help.. I ran SD maid cleaned up tons of crap... but still having issues... I dunno maybe its the roms and no one else noticed because they don't flash as much as me.... whatever this is going on its weird... Like I said its got something do with data from apps being stored in wrong place so when I update them they get sent to the wrong folder somehow but only some of them get sent there ( dunno ) then when I reboot they gone and I come back and my settings gone too... also when I flash a rom sometimes settings are picked for me already (then if I change them and flash again) they might be different... or I get settings from a old rom.. and I always clean flash btw
Very odd I dunno I going do odin thing tonight just waiting get more info I don't feel like I can do it right now with out Fing it up
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I took bolth out first trasferd exSD and formated on my computer... then after I did a DATA WIPE in TWRP which is a format of interneal sd card (correct?)
Just to see if help.. I ran SD maid cleaned up tons of crap... but still having issues... I dunno maybe its the roms and no one else noticed because they don't flash as much as me.... whatever this is going on its weird... Like I said its got something do with data from apps being stored in wrong place so when I update them they get sent to the wrong folder somehow but only some of them get sent there ( dunno ) then when I reboot they gone and I come back and my settings gone too... also when I flash a rom sometimes settings are picked for me already (then if I change them and flash again) they might be different... or I get settings from a old rom.. and I always clean flash btw
Very odd I dunno I going do odin thing tonight just waiting get more info I don't feel like I can do it right now with out Fing it up
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Reguardless of what I did to cause this what I don't get is why wiping everything and installing fresh rom doesn't do the trick?
Is there any other way to clean out all /system folders / data folders / root folders of crap and start brand new? beside above post?
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I took bolth out first trasferd exSD and formated on my computer... then after I did a DATA WIPE in TWRP which is a format of interneal sd card (correct?)
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Wipe data doesn't format your internal. You need to actually format internal. Cant remember where that option is. Might be in "wipe" or in "advanced" . BUT....it will wipe everything of your internal. What ever you have saved.... Backups....pics.
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Wipe data doesn't format your internal. You need to actually format internal. Cant remember where that option is. Might be in "wipe" or in "advanced" . BUT....it will wipe everything of your internal. What ever you have saved.... Backups....pics.
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everything important is saved on my computer honestly I make lots of backups im a carefull person I been reading about corrupt EFS folders, and bad system directories and stuff....
Seems only way fix it go back to stock and go through your folders.... Once im stock again I hope I do this right (im ready to do it now) just ... feel like this could all go wrong
What do I do once im stock? Just wipe the phone? factory data... its the not having a custom recovery (with stock) that scares me so much... I rooted this phone with a program I didn't do it by hand so Im worrried I might not get it right *sigh*
Once your back on stock n rooted install goomanager and installed TWRP again.
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Wipe data doesn't format your internal. You need to actually format internal. Cant remember where that option is. Might be in "wipe" or in "advanced" . BUT....it will wipe everything of your internal. What ever you have saved.... Backups....pics.
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Alright so im stock now. with root... Havn't formatted yet (no point) I already did that ... I know how this happned I think..
When I kept going from 4.1 and 4.2 I would get 0 folders so I took it and moved it back by just droping all folders back into the main drive so alll combine. It seemed to work but does sound possible? Would that casue issues with /root folder or is /root got nothing do with internal storage because I can't see it from computer
HEY quick what do I do with 0 folder? delete it all? combine? cry..... hehe I only got 1 but what do I do with it thanks
I wana make sure I fixed now
Danvdh said:
Get your stock firmware 4.0.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968625
use this toolkit to guide you through everything, it will basically teach you how to use odin, I recommend it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746665
FOLLOW ON SCREEN INSTRUCTIONS, don't get ahead of yourself, the tool kit tells you what to do.
root and install custom recovery afterwords using the toolkit
once again, FOLLOW ON SCREEN INSTRUCTIONS, don't get ahead of yourself, the tool kit tells you what to do.
once you boot up just factory reset inside the rom, reboot into recovery (toolkit will do it for you if you choose the setting) and start flashing again
also don't forget to reflash the latest modem for your carrier, found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831898
also, I think you should format your sd card, just back up ALL your important stuff on your PC and move it back after, you will REALLY clean stuff up big time,
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Thanks again for the information you helped a lot and I think that worked. I think its fixed. I can't be sure but its not happening at least like it was before. I prob won't know for awhile if its going to happen again for sure but Im optimistic. I mean what else can I do after this lol buy a new phone
Thanks dude most people arn't that nice to explain everything to me
Greetings,
This is a bit cliché question but i've Google literally everywhere and tried every tutorial available.
What I want: I want to backup my Galaxy W's stock ROM so I can instal custom ROM's a know that I can return to the stock rom in case I screw something or if anything goes wrong.
I've tried.
Rom Manager with cwm recovery - I get an error in recovery mode that tells me to check the log. When I do the log is empty. If I attempt to restore the ROM it says that it's missing an MD5 file.
Online nandroid - it runs sucefully but I cannot find and restore the backup afterwards.
Other backup apps I've tried just backed up my apps or contacts and they've done so sucessfully.
The question is, can someone help me finding a good and reliable way to backup my ROM so I can return to the stock gingerbread in case the ICS paranoid android does (or goes) wrong?
thanks in advance
Thaenor said:
Greetings,
This is a bit cliché question but i've Google literally everywhere and tried every tutorial available.
What I want: I want to backup my Galaxy W's stock ROM so I can instal custom ROM's a know that I can return to the stock rom in case I screw something or if anything goes wrong.
I've tried.
Rom Manager with cwm recovery - I get an error in recovery mode that tells me to check the log. When I do the log is empty. If I attempt to restore the ROM it says that it's missing an MD5 file.
Online nandroid - it runs sucefully but I cannot find and restore the backup afterwards.
Other backup apps I've tried just backed up my apps or contacts and they've done so sucessfully.
The question is, can someone help me finding a good and reliable way to backup my ROM so I can return to the stock gingerbread in case the ICS paranoid android does (or goes) wrong?
thanks in advance
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First flash cwm recovery with odin then you can back up your stock rom
thank you but...
well... at least you're pointing me in the right direction.
I'll try looking for some tutorials to back up through Odin. Thing is, I have a mac. I hope that doesn't get in the way.
Could you point me out for some tutorials please?
EDIT: I would prefer to avoid using Odin. the process seems really dangerous.
EDIT 2: I noticed my memory in the android is full. It means that nandroid online DID backup, apparently sucessfully. All I need is to find it and test it.
Assuming it will restore my system to the way it is I can finally get to try some paranoid android mods.
Also, has an alternative. Do you think I could simply lookup and download the official stock rom and, in case something goes wrong, simply reinstall it?
Thaenor said:
well... at least you're pointing me in the right direction.
I'll try looking for some tutorials to back up through Odin. Thing is, I have a mac. I hope that doesn't get in the way.
Could you point me out for some tutorials please?
EDIT: I would prefer to avoid using Odin. the process seems really dangerous.
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No not dangerous but its your choice. Just look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21875835&postcount=3
lafactorial said:
No not dangerous but its your choice. Just look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21875835&postcount=3
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The thing is... I barely know what Odin is. From what I saw on google I can't even run that on Mac (I have another pc with Windows just in case).
And I'm not even sure what links to follow if the Rom recovery (I just want to do a backup) or the clockwork mod...
Wouldn't it be easier if I just downloaded the official ROM and used that one has my backup?
u can use dd shell instead of odin just search how to use it , for stock rom thats flashable through cwm recovery then i guess ull find one thats XXLM8 based in the forum or u can build one urself using ur windows pc and dsixda's kitchen (but it will take u some time to install the kitchen and know how to use it), for nandroid backups 3 things are recommended : 1- free space on either internal or external sdcard 2- root access to make sure everything is ok (at least thats my opinion) 3- either CWM or TWRP recoveries
my advice is to backup the EFS folder which is much more important than the rom itself (ull find a thread on how to backup & restore it) and also ull find that ull depend on ICS & JB based roms in the future that ull rarely go back to stock
I tried to backup to SD card through the clockworkmod in recovery mode and it worked.
I tried to restore it and it restored my system... I think. To the same state.
Now I'm having a different problem. I have instaled cyanogen mod paranoid android, but unfortunately the phone get's stuck in the boot animation with the scrolling android eyes.
Can anyone please help me.
PS: I had to ultimately put the backup to the test. The custom Rom was not working at all! here is the link to the rom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1753065
Luckly the backup worked and restored my stock ROM putting everything back in place. *phew*
The question remains... where can I find a good ROM with paranoid android for my galaxy W?
Have you wiped /system & /data & /cache before installing the paranoid ??
for paranoid u can check newer paranoid roms cuz this one seems abit old, also check pacman roms cuz i guess they're usually built on paranoid
I (wrongly) assumed that an older rom would mean a more stable one. But here's to topics I would like to clear.
here's what I did all in clockwork mod:
.cleaned cache
.cleaned Dalvik cache
.fixed permitions
.installed the ROM
.installed GAPPS right afterwards
.reboot
1. Is there a COMPLETELY stable ROM for Galaxy W with ICS or Jelly Bean?
2. Where can I find updated ROMs of paranoid android or this packman you mentioned? I have a hard time finding thrustworthy ROM's and even more checking reviews and comments to make sure it works or what sort of problems people have with them.
Thank you once again, my Galaxy Wonder is doing fine. I'm back to the original ROM and I haven't lost anything (that I noticed). I have 2 backups on my SD card that are taking up 2GB of space but I'm too scared to move them to my PC, afraid that they won't work after I move them.
you shall wipe /data & /system (this will wipe all ur apps, contacts & sms but its an essential step as ur shifting from GB to ICS or JB)
this pacman (cm10.1 based) has hybrid properties and is the most updated so far : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2218224
If you want stability. I recommend CM9 RC 9
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ouch... So I have a couple of questions.
1. Did the backup really restore everything or just part of it, and the messages and whatnot were kept because I never wiped the system and apps
I was using a cm9 clockwork recovery mode... I think.
2. What is cm9 and cm10?
2.1 does this have to do with the Kernel?
2.2 Is the Kernel updatable? And if so are there any updates for Wonder?
3. what does "GO PRISTINE WAY" mean?
Just so we're clear on the number one. Fact check me if I'm wrong but I think that the Wonder has a default recovery mode and what I did by installing the clockwork recovery was override that recovery mode with one made by other people (read unoficially). In that light I believe there would be updates to this clockwork recovery mode, the question is, are they worth installing? Usually earlier versions can be more stable, not sure if this applies here.
Through this clockwork recovery I went to the options in backup/restore and selected "backup to SD external card" which create a folder in my external SD card. And the (million dollar) question here is, what did I exactly backup? Everything? Just the ROM? Just apps?
Once again thanks for help. I'm getting a mix of interest and fear out of this ROM business. I like the features in paranoid android (like phablet mode), but I am also equally scared of bricking my phone and having to go back to my really really old Blackberry.
Thaenor said:
ouch... So I have a couple of questions.
1. Did the backup really restore everything or just part of it, and the messages and whatnot were kept because I never wiped the system and apps
I was using a cm9 clockwork recovery mode... I think.
2. What is cm9 and cm10?
2.1 does this have to do with the Kernel?
2.2 Is the Kernel updatable? And if so are there any updates for Wonder?
3. what does "GO PRISTINE WAY" mean?
Just so we're clear on the number one. Fact check me if I'm wrong but I think that the Wonder has a default recovery mode and what I did by installing the clockwork recovery was override that recovery mode with one made by other people (read unoficially). In that light I believe there would be updates to this clockwork recovery mode, the question is, are they worth installing? Usually earlier versions can be more stable, not sure if this applies here.
Through this clockwork recovery I went to the options in backup/restore and selected "backup to SD external card" which create a folder in my external SD card. And the (million dollar) question here is, what did I exactly backup? Everything? Just the ROM? Just apps?
Once again thanks for help. I'm getting a mix of interest and fear out of this ROM business. I like the features in paranoid android (like phablet mode), but I am also equally scared of bricking my phone and having to go back to my really really old Blackberry.
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The clockwork recovery backups almost everything (except boot loader if i remembered correctly?) , including hut not only the 'system' partition where the rom's file are put and 'data' where your changes to the system(changes excluding “root” ones) are saved
Advice: apps backedup(data partition) using the recovery only works on the same rom or those of the same 'base', use titanium backup the apps is safer,note that there migt be problem if you restore data on a different android version(for example using titanium backup to backup apps on an android 2.3 system and restore them on android 4.2 system might not work) try use the backup/restore opion in the app if availible.
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dicksonlok said:
Ans to Q1:
The clockwork recovery backups almost everything (except boot loader if i remembered correctly?) , including hut not only the 'system' partition where the rom's file are put and 'data' where your changes to the system(changes excluding “root” ones) are saved
Advice: apps backedup(data partition) using the recovery only works on the same rom or those of the same 'base', use titanium backup the apps is safer,note that there migt be problem if you restore data on a different android version(for example using titanium backup to backup apps on an android 2.3 system and restore them on android 4.2 system might not work) try use the backup/restore opion in the app if availible.
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there's actually a 4th question.
4 - with a new rom, I will also be installing a new version of Gapps right? Does that mean that apps that couldn't be installed on my phone will now be available? Like the Chrome navigator or the new game Kingdom Rush.
ok lets start answering all questions in order
1. making a backup using CWM recovery (we name it nandroid backup) will backup ur a)system (it has the base files of the rom that will stay the same even if u make a factory reset, but surely thr content data will b deleted), b)cache, c)data (data means the apps and their data not the media that r stored on sdcard "a nandroid backup will not restore the images of a whats app conversation if the whats app folder is deleted from ur sdcard") d)kernel (named boot.img) & e)recovery (which is the same recovery itself u used to make the backup) ..... nandroid backup will not backup boot loader (which u dont have to worry about cuz u wont b able to solve it urself) and EFS folder (which u surely have to worry about cuz its easily backupable and restored if anythn happens to it)
2. cm9 is ICS 4.0.x .... cm10 is JB 4.1.x .... cm10.1 is JB 4.2.x .... stock rom for our wonder is GB 2.3.6 ............. All of them r different bases for android and to change between them its always preferable to make a full wipe not to have conflicts like boot loops or apps force close
2.1 each base has its kernel even if it has the same version number (i.e. same processing manner) cuz it shall be modified for each base to work on it properly
2.2 yes kernels r updatable for each base (u can c an example if u go to arco's cm threads and c the changelog)
3. go pristine is a term introduced by a great xda member here called pepoluan and it means full wipe of the phone to make sure u have a clean install of whatever u want (thrs a thread in general section for how to go pristine)
4. Gapps (aka Google apps) depend on which base u r , u can't install JB gapps for ICS , some of the apps that the gapps zip contains are updatable while some of them cant be updated (e.g. the newest google search cant b updated to ICS so ull have to stick with what the ICS gapps provided u) and finally u can c how the gapps are classified in this simple link http://goo.im/gapps
Any further question ??
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Ah , about the stability, so far here all the bases are quite stable but if ur looking for the most stable then try cm9 based roms
the more updates the base gets (cm9 has the most updates so far) the more stable it gets cuz they fix the bugs of the older versions and u can check that from the changelog of every rom, so never think about staying on an older rom if thrs a newer more stable version of it
Actually yes, I hope I'm not pushing my luck here, but every time I dig a little deeper into the Android OS I find new and complicated tutorials and questions. At first I just thought it was as simple as downloading Titanium backup and them installing new ROM's.
Then I find out that backing up the OS ins't as simple as that. THEN there are other "smalls things" that actually turn up rather complicated.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but from what I understand. Certain apps, like Kingdom Rush aren't available on my Wonder because the GAPPs version doesn't allow it. If I were to install a JB rom for example, then it would probably allow that game to be installed, because it would require a new version of GAPPs.
1. So assuming I don't mind about reinstalling the apps (but I have those backed up anyway), I also backed up my contacts, messages and call logs. Added to a nandroid backup should be enough to guarantee that I can go back to my first version, in case something goes wrong?
(that and the EFS which I will have to look into later)
1.1 - should I update my clockwork mod first? I'm not sure which version I have, but should I expect it to have a big impact on the process?
2. The android inner phone memory is split in two correct? One of the partition is called SD card and is usually in the path /mnt/SDcard or similar.
If I do this "going pristine" and clean up everything, will I have to remake the partitions?
2.1 I also have an external SD card. A full factory wipe (which I assume is the same as to say "go pristine") won't affect it correct? (either I'm removing it during the process (just in case))
I just hate in the phone lags and freezes. But I also suck at typing on a touchscreen so I really need Swiftkey, I even bought the app and it works nicely, but it is a little heavy and I notice the phone takes a few seconds to load it. I also need Dolphin browser because of the browser syncing feature (so I can see the tabs from chrome there).
Is the Pacman rom you recomended earlier fluid? Or should I expect it to be laggy with these slightly heavy apps?
thanks for the help so far
First about kingdom rush , it's not because of the Gapps version, it's because of the base of the rom itself ( whether ICS or JB) which defines everything later on like wt kernel it should use or which gapps to flash or what apps can't be downloaded from playstore due to android version incompatiblity with the app
now to the questions
1. yes it should be enough
1.1 it's preferable but not a must , there will be an impact but not that big
2. a hazy question , sounds like a bunch of questions all together , but lets try answering it (them) , there are alot of partitions but let's focus on just two for now : a) /data which is 1.07 GB and the apps installed and have their data stored on it .... b) /mnt/sdcard or similar names which is 1.7 GB and stores your media in addition to some data of the apps (mostly media data like images of viber or whatsapp) , to go pristine is to format this partition as well which as i told u b4 don't get backed up during the process so ull have to copy its folders & files urself to an external sdcard or to ur pc ....... u won't have to remake any partitions , just click format on the desired partition while ur in the recovery and it will be wiped and reformatted automatically
2.1 actually it depends on whether u click format external_sdcard or not , but i usually remove it b4 i do any format to make sure its safe and if i wanna format it then i do it on pc after making a copy of it on my pc
for a keyboard u can try Kii keyboard, it seems good to me
ive never tried pacman so u shall be the one to tell me how it work's for u
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First about kingdom rush , it's not because of the Gapps version, it's because of the base of the rom itself ( whether ICS or JB) which defines everything later on like wt kernel it should use or which gapps to flash or what apps can't be downloaded from playstore due to android version incompatiblity with the app
now to the questions
1. yes it should be enough
1.1 it's preferable but not a must , there will be an impact but not that big
2. a hazy question , sounds like a bunch of questions all together , but lets try answering it (them) , there are alot of partitions but let's focus on just two for now : a) /data which is 1.07 GB and the apps installed and have their data stored on it .... b) /mnt/sdcard or similar names which is 1.7 GB and stores your media in addition to some data of the apps (mostly media data like images of viber or whatsapp) , to go pristine is to format this partition as well which as i told u b4 don't get backed up during the process so ull have to copy its folders & files urself to an external sdcard or to ur pc ....... u won't have to remake any partitions , just click format on the desired partition while ur in the recovery and it will be wiped and reformatted automatically
2.1 actually it depends on whether u click format external_sdcard or not , but i usually remove it b4 i do any format to make sure its safe and if i wanna format it then i do it on pc after making a copy of it on my pc
for a keyboard u can try Kii keyboard, it seems good to me
ive never tried pacman so u shall be the one to tell me how it work's for u
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1 & 1.1 - I feel more at ease now
2 I kinda figured that there were more partitions(by messing with cmw) but I found it odd that there were so many partitions. I guess that explains that.
I use a file explored and I'm a bit OCD'ish about where I keep my stuff, so all of media is mostly in SD card and probably backed up more times than I'd like.
If some apps may be incompatible and it's best not to restore the data from apps since it's a new ROM and may cause incompatibility I might as well just install them from scratch, at least that way I can rid of those apps I never really used but I didn't want to delete (you know, like Shazam, I rarely use it, but I want it around just in case)
My only last question seems to already be answered (which was how to repartition the phone memories). So you're saying that by doing the factory reset the partitions will not be affected (let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)?
So at this point all I need to do is go to recovery mode, select factory reset for each of the partitions, clearing them one by one, then clear cache, dalvik cache and then select "install rom from external SD card" and after that just hit "fix permissions", a reboot and I'd be good to go?
PS: I'm going to try Kii keyboard. But I feel kinda bad not using Swiftkey since I already payed for it and all... that's what you get for buying apps XD (fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version)
Maybe I should go back to the alphanumeric keyboards... bigger buttons pressed more times... not the best but... I miss my blackberry keyboard, I typed in that thing like a lightning.
(let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)? YES, all data will be wiped but partitions stay the same
At CWM recovery , go to advanced, clear dalvike, then back to main menu select mount and format , go thr and format the desired partitions, then back again and select install update or zip or blablah (i cant remember) , choose the location wr ur rom zip is then select it , fix permissions isnt done unless instructed by the rom dev or if u face bootloops or FC after flashing the rom
(fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version) lol man, u seem to b funny
alphanumeric buttons have only ONE advantage which is " u can type without looking at the screen even wn ur crossing the street "
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(let me rephrase that, the data inside the partitions is going to be deleted but the partitions themselves will stay)? YES, all data will be wiped but partitions stay the same
At CWM recovery , go to advanced, clear dalvike, then back to main menu select mount and format , go thr and format the desired partitions, then back again and select install update or zip or blablah (i cant remember) , choose the location wr ur rom zip is then select it , fix permissions isnt done unless instructed by the rom dev or if u face bootloops or FC after flashing the rom
(fyi I know, or at least I'm pretty sure, I can reinstall swiftkey again at any time and continue with the paid version) lol man, u seem to b funny
alphanumeric buttons have only ONE advantage which is " u can type without looking at the screen even wn ur crossing the street "
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I assume the desired partions would be all, in my case since I'm going pristine. I'm going to try this later this weekend. And walking in the street and tryping without looking (which even that I don't think I can do) would be a great asset, since when facing direct light you can barely see anything on the Wonder's screen. I wish the glass was anti reflexion.
I have had problems flashing and restoring Roms both stk and aosp. By problems I mean getting stuck at boot screen after flash and backups failing at data and if restored without data stuck at boot. The only remedy I have found is a total internal memory wipe. I have tried many wiping techniques none worked long term. Last night when I had these problems again before I did full internal data wipe I used twrp file manager and looked around and notice after factory reset wipe which is suppose to wipe all data but data/media I still had data/app and when I tried to manually erase it failed. even with system mounted I couldn't delete. Maybe someone else having troubles can also check to see if data/app is still there after wipe. I dont know if its recovery related or caused by the aosp sd format. Maybe a combination? I don't think im the only one having these problems so I wanted to start a thread to try to figuer this out. Any help is greatly appriciated.
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I have had problems flashing and restoring Roms both stk and aosp. By problems I mean getting stuck at boot screen after flash and backups failing at data and if restored without data stuck at boot. The only remedy I have found is a total internal memory wipe. I have tried many wiping techniques none worked long term. Last night when I had these problems again before I did full internal data wipe I used twrp file manager and looked around and notice after factory reset wipe which is suppose to wipe all data but data/media I still had data/app and when I tried to manually erase it failed. even with system mounted I couldn't delete. Maybe someone else having troubles can also check to see if data/app is still there after wipe. I dont know if its recovery related or caused by the aosp sd format. Maybe a combination? I don't think im the only one having these problems so I wanted to start a thread to try to figuer this out. Any help is greatly appriciated.
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yeah just happened to me just now too dammit... tried to restore my lifeless backup to update prl and profile... restore went fine but i get the lg logo flash then blacjk screen....going to try again but damn this is one issue that need resolving.. usually i have no problems which is weird cause im not doing anything different maybe been couple weeks since my last restore to lifeless using same backup that wont work now
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yeah just happened to me just now too dammit... tried to restore my lifeless backup to update prl and profile... restore went fine but i get the lg logo flash then blacjk screen....going to try again but damn this is one issue that need resolving.. usually i have no problems which is weird cause im not doing anything different maybe been couple weeks since my last restore to lifeless using same backup that wont work now
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I'm going to try deleting data/app before booting to recovery when I flash from now on to see if it helps. I think something to do with the size of that folder is corrupting data in recovery as it seems to happen only when I run a rom for a few days adding apps. If I flash right away it works fine.
spleef..If you can check data/ folder from twrp before wiping internal data...I wonder if the data/app is from backup or previous rom as I believe it is being corrupted to not be wipable.
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yeah just happened to me just now too dammit... tried to restore my lifeless backup to update prl and profile... restore went fine but i get the lg logo flash then blacjk screen....going to try again but damn this is one issue that need resolving.. usually i have no problems which is weird cause im not doing anything different maybe been couple weeks since my last restore to lifeless using same backup that wont work now
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I'm going to try deleting data/app before booting to recovery when I flash from now on to see if it helps. I think something to do with the size of that folder is corrupting data in recovery as it seems to happen only when I run a rom for a few days adding apps. If I flash right away it works fine.
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I'm seeing this happen to a lot of people and I don't understand why. I've been flashing all the ROMS and restoring from backups for months now with no issues. Maybe I just got a lucky phone.
Maybe this will help many of you.
In TWRP 2.5.0.0
Click Wipe
Swipe to Factory Reset
Back button to the Wipe menu
Advanced Wipe
Tick all 4--
Dalvik
System
Data
cache
Back to main TWRP menu and restore/install
Like I said, I've had no issues doing it this way. May the Force be with you.
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I'm seeing this happen to a lot of people and I don't understand why. I've been flashing all the ROMS and restoring from backups for months now with no issues. Maybe I just got a lucky phone.
Maybe this will help many of you.
In TWRP 2.5.0.0
Click Wipe
Swipe to Factory Reset
Back button to the Wipe menu
Advanced Wipe
Tick all 4--
Dalvik
System
Data
cache
Back to main TWRP menu and restore/install
Like I said, I've had no issues doing it this way. May the Force be with you.
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thanks for the advice but I have wiped every which way including rebooting recovery after wipe before installing..no luck
I think it started from initially wiping internal memory and reloading data from pc backup to get rid of the aosp stuff on the sd card..
My advice to anyone else who wants the sd card back to stock is to leave it alone.
normally i have no problems going back and forth.... want to hear something even weirder.... restored my aokp and it booted into lifeless.... now either i restored lifeless again...which us possible big fingers and always in a hurry... or something very funny going on in my recovery i am on the older version 2.4.4 i think it is haven't updated it yet cause of all the issues people are having and the different wipe area... just seems weird top me but guess its time to do it and at least see if it will help
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OK this is crazy...deleted data/app with ROM manager root browser..then entered recovery wiped everything in advanced wipe..system..both caches and data..then rebooted recovery checked data\ there was nothing but \media and a config XML file..then flashed a STK custom ROM...got stuck at lg boot logo. Got back to recovery went to filemanager and there it was data\app with all the apps had had installed in my aosp ROM. Loaded aosp backup and all is fine....but I deleted data\app with root browser and in recovery and still there.. :banghead:
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OK this is crazy...deleted data/app with ROM manager root browser..then entered recovery wiped everything in advanced wipe..system..both caches and data..then rebooted recovery checked data\ there was nothing but \media and a config XML file..then flashed a STK custom ROM...got stuck at lg boot logo. Got back to recovery went to filemanager and there it was data\app with all the apps had had installed in my aosp ROM. Loaded aosp backup and all is fine....but I deleted data\app with root browser and in recovery and still there.. :banghead:
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I usually wipe all data by all data I mean including data/media then I have no problems. Keep in mind this erases sdcard so you need to have rom on computer and adb push it to the sdcard to flash
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I think I will start from scratch with lgnpst and leave the internal memory alone this time and see if that was the cause.
update: Im back to stk going to root then unlock with freegee..Any advice for using freegee it soft bricked me last time and I had to flash tinybin
Well since I went back to unrooted and locked and started from scratch..tried using free gee then flashed tinybins all has gone well..no flashing problems anymore..I think messing with the internal memory is what caused my problems. Been almost a week and I have flashed between several roms and restored from backup many times.
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I had not seen this thread before or I would have chimed in by now. My issues don't go back to the 28th; only over the last week. My issue goes like this: I built and flash my own Beanstalk 1.561 ROM, and had no real functionality issues. I played with it for a day or two before realizing I hadn't backed it up. Did that, and at reboot, got a loop. WTF? I immediately thought it was the ROM, so I wiped Factory, dalvik and cache, and ran one of my older back ups. No problem. Flashed a new build of JellyBeer, updated everything, and backed it up. Restart and loop. Now I'm REALLY pissed. Restored my original stock back up; no prob. Okay, now I'm more confused than angry. Go to update my recovery(already running TWRP 2.5, but wanted a fresh install) Install of fresh recovery fails. I forget what the fail was for though, I was spitting nails at this point. Soooooo, really long story a little shorter, I downloaded and reinstalled TWRP 2.5, no problems. Dumped all of my 'standard' flashing files(Banks Gapps, Smoocha kernel, newer ROM downloads, etc), and redownloaded everything. Installed a fresh download of Beanstalk 1.561(build 7/07; original problem was on build 7/05), updated it, and performed a back up. SAME ISSUE. I think you can imagine the string of curses I want to put here. So, for me all back ups older than last week work fine. ANY BACK UP MADE EVEN TODAY FROM ONE OF MY OLDER BACK UPS RESTORES AND BOOTS FINE. But, any back up made form any of my newer builds(7/01 to now) flakes out. I haven't had the time to try other ROMs, and to be honest, I haven't tried to run anyone else's work since trying to install Vectus a few weeks ago. Does anyone have any info, advise, similar experience? This is driving me nuts, so anything would be great. PM me if you want to
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I had not seen this thread before or I would have chimed in by now. My issues don't go back to the 28th; only over the last week. My issue goes like this: I built and flash my own Beanstalk 1.561 ROM, and had no real functionality issues. I played with it for a day or two before realizing I hadn't backed it up. Did that, and at reboot, got a loop. WTF? I immediately thought it was the ROM, so I wiped Factory, dalvik and cache, and ran one of my older back ups. No problem. Flashed a new build of JellyBeer, updated everything, and backed it up. Restart and loop. Now I'm REALLY pissed. Restored my original stock back up; no prob. Okay, now I'm more confused than angry. Go to update my recovery(already running TWRP 2.5, but wanted a fresh install) Install of fresh recovery fails. I forget what the fail was for though, I was spitting nails at this point. Soooooo, really long story a little shorter, I downloaded and reinstalled TWRP 2.5, no problems. Dumped all of my 'standard' flashing files(Banks Gapps, Smoocha kernel, newer ROM downloads, etc), and redownloaded everything. Installed a fresh download of Beanstalk 1.561(build 7/07; original problem was on build 7/05), updated it, and performed a back up. SAME ISSUE. I think you can imagine the string of curses I want to put here. So, for me all back ups older than last week work fine. ANY BACK UP MADE EVEN TODAY FROM ONE OF MY OLDER BACK UPS RESTORES AND BOOTS FINE. But, any back up made form any of my newer builds(7/01 to now) flakes out. I haven't had the time to try other ROMs, and to be honest, I haven't tried to run anyone else's work since trying to install Vectus a few weeks ago. Does anyone have any info, advise, similar experience? This is driving me nuts, so anything would be great. PM me if you want to
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but from some of your posts, i never hear you mention wiping /system. That could be some of the problem. Even restoring should have /system wipes.
Also on your backups are there at least 7 files in each? You might have ticked a button and aren't backing up /boot
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but from some of your posts, i never hear you mention wiping /system. That could be some of the problem. Even restoring should have /system wipes.
Also on your backups are there at least 7 files in each? You might have ticked a button and aren't backing up /boot
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Thanks for the response. I'll check into that advice and post what happened.
Checking on my one back up that I haven't deleted before anything else.This is what I have:
boot.emmc.win
boot.emmc.win.md5
data.ext4.win
data.ext4.win.md5
efs1.emmc.win
efs1.emmc.win.md5
efs2.emmc.win
efs2.emmc.win.md5
efs3.emmc.win
efs3.emmc.win.md5
recovery.log
system.ext4.win
system.ext4.win.md5
It looks right to me, but honestly, I never looked that closely at the files. Looks the same as the other backups.....
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It looks right to me, but honestly, I never looked that closely at the files. Looks the same as the other backups.....
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Compared it to mine and it is. You just have the efs also. Maybe try formating /system then restore.
Also maybe try backing up without efs.
Just more options to try.
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Also, have you tried a flashable TWRP?
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I have had this problem and I thought it was just my ROM, I have been making changes to different apks and then flashing and if it bootloops I restore previous working version. Several times however the restores work and then bootloop or they fail in recovery. When this happens I wipe cache, dalvik, system, internal memory, data, factory reset. Then I go into download mode and LGPNST and flash original stock unrooted, then root then flash teeny bins, then I'm ok. It's a pain, thought it was just from me tinkering with things. Anyway that gets me working again, then I can reflash the ROM.
Update: More recently when I've had this happen I just format data and then push what I'm trying to flash into /data/media. Much easier.
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