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Hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster.
I finally gave in and fully rooted my EVO and successfully flashed the newest damagecontrol rom. Afterwards, I took some time and set up my phone like how it used to be with the apps, settings, etc. Just a few questions from after this.
If I wanted to flash a different ROM, it is recommended to do a data wipe, correct? And also a NAND backup. Does this mean that my phone will be reset to factory settings again - using the new ROM as a base? In other words, would I have to rearrange my screens, settings, etc. if I wanted to try out a new ROM?
If not a different ROM, but an updated version of my current ROM, do I just flash that on top of what I have? (i.e. DC4.0 is released, do I have to wipe everything again before upgrading?)
If the answer is yes to both these questions, what are the easiest/quickest ways to get my phone looking/acting the way I like when getting a new ROM?
also, I followed toast's method step by step, and got the Amon Ra recovery on my phone as well. What is the function of this? Sorry for all the questions, I have everything working fine, but I'm just curious as to what and how things work on the phone. What is the difference between the amon ra recovery and following steps to use clockword for recovery?
Thanks a lot
baxtercat said:
Hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster.
I finally gave in and fully rooted my EVO and successfully flashed the newest damagecontrol rom. Afterwards, I took some time and set up my phone like how it used to be with the apps, settings, etc. Just a few questions from after this.
1. If I wanted to flash a different ROM, it is recommended to do a data wipe, correct? And also a NAND backup. Does this mean that my phone will be reset to factory settings again - using the new ROM as a base? In other words, would I have to rearrange my screens, settings, etc. if I wanted to try out a new ROM?
2. If not a different ROM, but an updated version of my current ROM, do I just flash that on top of what I have? (i.e. DC4.0 is released, do I have to wipe everything again before upgrading?)
If the answer is yes to both these questions, what are the easiest/quickest ways to get my phone looking/acting the way I like when getting a new ROM?
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baxtercat said:
also, I followed toast's method step by step, and got the Amon Ra recovery on my phone as well. What is the function of this? Sorry for all the questions, I have everything working fine, but I'm just curious as to what and how things work on the phone. What is the difference between the amon ra recovery and following steps to use clockword for recovery?
Thanks a lot
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Hello there, iv done videos on this rom for youtube, if you want the links let me know but ill go as it follows.
Ok, if you want to test out new roms, just do a nand backup of the one you have now, after that. WIPE both Factory and Delvic cache. Then flash the new rom in your phone adn you will be fine.
Ok, i know DC does this, i dont know about the others yet, But if a new update comes out, just flash that DC update over yours and it will be fine. All user data will be there. YOU shouldn't have boot loop ether. If so, then you will have to wipe again. I didn't and im fine. ( I use fresh evo right now. loving it. )
As for the NAND backup. This saves EVERYTHING so once you are tired of a old rom and wanna try another, just restory the back up and your fine.
super-6-1 said:
Hello there, iv done videos on this rom for youtube, if you want the links let me know but ill go as it follows.
Ok, if you want to test out new roms, just do a nand backup of the one you have now, after that. WIPE both Factory and Delvic cache. Then flash the new rom in your phone adn you will be fine.
Ok, i know DC does this, i dont know about the others yet, But if a new update comes out, just flash that DC update over yours and it will be fine. All user data will be there. YOU shouldn't have boot loop ether. If so, then you will have to wipe again. I didn't and im fine. ( I use fresh evo right now. loving it. )
As for the NAND backup. This saves EVERYTHING so once you are tired of a old rom and wanna try another, just restory the back up and your fine.
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Wow, thanks for the quick reply! That cleared up a lot of things for me.
So if I have everything set up the way I want, it is recommended to do a NAND backup at this point?
Also, what are the pros/cons of using Rom Manager (marketplace)?
Thanks a lot
baxtercat said:
Wow, thanks for the quick reply! That cleared up a lot of things for me.
So if I have everything set up the way I want, it is recommended to do a NAND backup at this point?
Also, what are the pros/cons of using Rom Manager (marketplace)?
Thanks a lot
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well if i was you, wait till you wanna flash something else THEN do a nand back up.
as far as rom manager goes, i dont use it. I just come on here and see whats new and what going on, you get a lot more from here then on rom manager, Plus, its free
super-6-1 said:
well if i was you, wait till you wanna flash something else THEN do a nand back up.
as far as rom manager goes, i dont use it. I just come on here and see whats new and what going on, you get a lot more from here then on rom manager, Plus, its free
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This is what I was thinking as well. Thanks
could you be kind enough to explain the different recovery files and their uses?
baxtercat said:
This is what I was thinking as well. Thanks
could you be kind enough to explain the different recovery files and their uses?
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what do you mean? like the different kinds of recoverys? Really i just stay with toasts, his is more stable and as far as the clockmod one, It has issues with formatting the Factory cashe.
Honestly, for someone that is completely new to flashing roms, backing up etc., Rom Mgr. is the best thing for you. You may not have the absolute cutting edge of available roms, but it makes flashing/backing up extremely easy and straightforward. That is how I got started with my previous Droid until I felt comfortable enough to flash the old fashion way. I have literally flashed and backed up hundreds of times using clockwork mod (rom manager recovery) and have not had a single issue. Plus, the app is only a couple bucks if I remembe correctly. I would start there to gain some experience, then move on to flashing zips from here.
just my opinion.
Will rom manager work if I have Amon RA's Recovery?
I think it may replace your recovery
Now, I thought, "hey, I'm not a novice with flashing ROM images, nor am I a *nix or system notice..." So, I decided to cook a ROM using the Online ROM kitchen: http://evo.feeder.pk/
I had run unrevoked3 + unrevoked forever, so I had clockwork recovery.
So, I copied the zipped ROM generated off the online ROM kitchen to the sdcard and then via clockwork installed /sdcard/update.zip (the ROM).
So, everything installed okay, then upon reboot, it seems to go into a reboot loop.
Lucky for me I performed a nandroid backup before installing the newly built ROM, and I'm in them middle of performing a nandroid restore; which I hope will resolve the problem.
1) Will the nandroid restore actually restore my entire phone back to how it was previously?
2) How do I actually install another ROM properly?
These are pretty n00b questions, but any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Matt
branded said:
Now, I thought, "hey, I'm not a novice with flashing ROM images, nor am I a *nix or system notice..." So, I decided to cook a ROM using the Online ROM kitchen: http://evo.feeder.pk/
I had run unrevoked3 + unrevoked forever, so I had clockwork recovery.
So, I copied the zipped ROM generated off the online ROM kitchen to the sdcard and then via clockwork installed /sdcard/update.zip (the ROM).
So, everything installed okay, then upon reboot, it seems to go into a reboot loop.
Lucky for me I performed a nandroid backup before installing the newly built ROM, and I'm in them middle of performing a nandroid restore; which I hope will resolve the problem.
1) Will the nandroid restore actually restore my entire phone back to how it was previously?
2) How do I actually install another ROM properly?
These are pretty n00b questions, but any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Matt
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1) Its supposed to...
2) From what it sounds like, you installed everything okay, just with a bad ROM image. Installing any of the other ROMs already posted should relieve you of your bootloops (as should the nandroid). Unless you try overclocking, which some folks experience bootloops when overclocked over 1.15.
nol3n said:
1) Its supposed to...
2) From what it sounds like, you installed everything okay, just with a bad ROM image. Installing any of the other ROMs already posted should relieve you of your bootloops (as should the nandroid). Unless you try overclocking, which some folks experience bootloops when overclocked over 1.15.
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Thank you sir. nandroid obviously did restore everything back to normal (wasn't sure to what extent nandroid backed up the device, but it looks like every single thing was backed up).
As for a ROM, I really just want the stock froyo ROM, but rooted... Do you have any suggestions? I can't go OTA since I have clockwork recovery.
Thanks,
Matt
branded said:
Thank you sir. nandroid obviously did restore everything back to normal (wasn't sure to what extent nandroid backed up the device, but it looks like every single thing was backed up).
As for a ROM, I really just want the stock froyo ROM, but rooted... Do you have any suggestions? I can't go OTA since I have clockwork recovery.
Thanks,
Matt
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I have flashed most of the ROMs here, but I have mostly been using CM6 (Cyanogenmod 6) since it came out. I did try Baked Snack, which is a very nice ROM with a beautiful theme, but it is Sense based and if by any chance you wanted to use a Wiimote for emulators, you cant. It is based off the HTC bluetooth stack, CM6 is not. Its kinda nice to get nightly (experimental) updates to flash if you want to also.
Its all a matter of personal preference, but my BEST results have been with CM6 - benchmark, features, and otherwise.
*E* You also may want to consider posting something like this in the Q&A forum next time...
Uhhhh Ohhhh wrong section
nol3n said:
I have flashed most of the ROMs here, but I have mostly been using CM6 (Cyanogenmod 6) since it came out. I did try Baked Snack, which is a very nice ROM with a beautiful theme, but it is Sense based and if by any chance you wanted to use a Wiimote for emulators, you cant. It is based off the HTC bluetooth stack, CM6 is not. Its kinda nice to get nightly (experimental) updates to flash if you want to also.
Its all a matter of personal preference, but my BEST results have been with CM6 - benchmark, features, and otherwise.
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Very cool. I'll take a look but I really want Sense, which I'm not sure if CM6 has. Thanks.
Sporkman said:
Uhhhh Ohhhh wrong section
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Just flag the post and request a mod move it. There's really little reason to post a reply. It seemed like the best place given the descriptions of all the EVO sub-forums.
branded said:
Thank you sir. nandroid obviously did restore everything back to normal (wasn't sure to what extent nandroid backed up the device, but it looks like every single thing was backed up).
As for a ROM, I really just want the stock froyo ROM, but rooted... Do you have any suggestions? I can't go OTA since I have clockwork recovery.
Thanks,
Matt
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Just get netarchys rooted stock rom and you should be ok... just make sure you get the rooted version
Next time do a wipe of your davik cache before installing any rom
playya said:
Just get netarchys rooted stock rom and you should be ok... just make sure you get the rooted version
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Thanks playya...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740520
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
evolol said:
Next time do a wipe of your davik cache before installing any rom
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http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...-clockwork-clears-dalvik-cache-just-fine.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4535156&postcount=4
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-eris/76110-what-dalvik-cache.html#post710236
And thank you both for ignoring that racist bag of donkey twats that responded earlier.
branded said:
Thanks playya... do you have a link?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4535156&postcount=4
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-eris/76110-what-dalvik-cache.html#post710236
And thank you both for ignoring that racist bag of donkey twats that responded earlier.
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no problem quote from last response at that forum
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Originally Posted by Tamasabian View Post
Ok. So I should just clear it when I do a data wipe to flash a new rom? Will it be a problem if I just do a data wipe and flash a new rom without doing the dalvik cache?
i have had issues when i dont clear the dalvik cache, but never had issues when i do. just cear it, nothing bad will happen and only good can come of it
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Uhhhh Ohhhh wrong section
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agreed, theres a section for Q&A
evolol said:
no problem quote from last response at that forum
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Originally Posted by Tamasabian View Post
Ok. So I should just clear it when I do a data wipe to flash a new rom? Will it be a problem if I just do a data wipe and flash a new rom without doing the dalvik cache?
i have had issues when i dont clear the dalvik cache, but never had issues when i do. just cear it, nothing bad will happen and only good can come of it
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Cool thank you I will do that and attempt to reflash this ROM that I cooked.
Rocklee99 said:
agreed, theres a section for Q&A
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Flag the thread and request a mod move it. Glad that you all really want to up your post count so badly, shows real dedication to the forums cleanliness.
Your welcome...now show your dedication to this forum by following instructions & quit cluttering the development section with basic Questions
Not to delf: seems like I fall under a ClockworkRecovery user who's dalvik cache doesn't actually clear. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763) Kick ass!
I have the same problem as you!!!! I posted it in the wrong forum though so I'll briefly psot my problem and maybe someone can help me. I was trying to update my radio to the latest radio and it worked. I then realized I didn't have a 4g signal and the mod I was using supports 4g. So I tried updating to the latest wimax and then my phone started rebooting. After it boots android it reboots after a bout a minute or 2.
I FIXED it with a nandroid restore which had my 2.1-1 back up which I made during the idiot proof guide. So thinking that I can always use that backup as a restore I tried re-installing the radios because I don't see how they could not work on my phone and thought maybe I had a corrupt file, but voila my phone started rebooting again, but this time nandroid restore tells me to fix it via adb restore, BUT my usb isn't working either. So I'm stuck and have no idea on how to get this thing to load my restore. Any help would be appreciated.
I didn't read you're reply. But after installing RA, I think I'll be alright...
Here's the deal from start to finish...
download and install the android SDK
install all the necessary drivers
restart in recovery mode ( adb restart recovery or hold volume down when powering on the device)
use adb shell to access the shell while the device is in recovery
1) install RA recovery using adb method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026) This may or may not be okay with or without running unrevoked first... not sure if flash_image was placed on the device by unrevoked.
2) reboot into recovery
3) flush dalvik cache via RA recovery.
4) flush cache via RA recovery.
5) use adb push to copy a downloaded ROM zip to /sdcard/update.zip (using RA recovery to mount the /sdcard/ partition)
- I've downloaded http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7512117
6) Install update.zip from sdcard in RA recovery
- After booting into the new ROM one time, I allowed it to start and configured... then performed 3,4,5 against flashing a new kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
And that should be that. I'm currently downloading the ROM, so I don't know how it'll be.
In Brief:
Got New Phone due to light leak. Finally after 2 months
Came with 2.2 on it.
Used the new 2.2 Root Guide with Unrevoked. Worked great.
Installed VirusROMX - working great.
Wanted to try out the Final 6.0 ROM from Cyan.
NanDroided the ViruxROMX
Got an error 7? So I found this link that was to correct that issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=752832
Flashed the new Hboot and it allowed me to install the CYAN R6.0.
CYAN ROM - Keep on Rebooting and Reloading the CYAN Boot Screen after setup and scrolling some apps.
Removed it and went for a Nandroid Restore.
I get the MD5 Checksum message and then trying to reload boot image. And Boot Image cannot load.
I have tried to reflash the recovery(Clockwork) and still no good.
My working Daily with all my updates and apps are on the Nandroid. I would hate to lose it.
Any help would be appreciated.
Anyone?
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App
instead of re-flashing the recovery, have you tried to do a restore via a nand recovery, or is that what your talking about that you did.
tomh1979 said:
instead of re-flashing the recovery, have you tried to do a restore via a nand recovery, or is that what your talking about that you did.
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That's is what I tried to do. It would say boot image unloadable and spits me out to the HBOOT options. With no ROM loaded and messes up my current ROM in place.
At least for me when I restored in the past and I have done it often is that I would just restore and not wipe or anything since the restore does all of that for me. Well in this case it does not and when it cannot restore I have to reload a new ROM again in recovery and start the process all over again. I have tried the NANDROID again after going through the entire ROM reload again and still a no go.
I can't nandroid restore my old daily which has text messages and everything that I wanted to reference. I can live without it but the inability to restore any Nandroid is driving me crazy.
It happened when I flashed that HBOOT update on the link I provided in OP. I am just trying to figure out how to reflash the old image back so I don't have to worry about it. The only reason I did it in the first place is to test out the Cyanogen R6 and that wasn't a good experience.
I guess I could post in the thread that started all of this to ask. But I thought I would keep the SECTION POLICE from hounding me about posting in the wrong section
about the hboot, did you try the PC36IMG.zip, or did you do the flashable zip file through recovery?
I did the flashable file though recovery last night had no issue with that, maybe that's the problem, what is it showing for you current hboot.
tomh1979 said:
about the hboot, did you try the PC36IMG.zip, or did you do the flashable zip file through recovery?
I did the flashable file though recovery last night had no issue with that, maybe that's the problem, what is it showing for you current hboot.
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The PC36IMG.zip - I will try the flash.
The Hboot through PC36IMG.zip worked fine. It's the nandroid thats fuxored. Will try later on and see. Thanks for the suggestion.
I had to redo the second part of the Froyo 2.2 update with the Rooted Froyo and the 2.2 unrevoked. It finally worked and I was able to restore. I really want to try out the CM 6.0 again in the future but not at the expense of time to restore to get it back.
Ok so, I was flashing CM7-GX4...everything was going fine until I flashed GAPPS, now I'm stuck at two screens alternating between the CM7 boot animation and the screen that says "Welcome to PC36100", upon this screen loading it quickly restarts the CM7 boot animation, so on and so forth. I am able to get into CWM recovery. Please help.
Thank you in advance.
thats a boot loop, looks like you want to wipe everything and try again
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thats a boot loop, looks like you want to wipe everything and try again
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What if the PC36IMG file is renamed? I changed the name previously per the instructions of some thread I saw somewhere. Could this be the problem?
well you lost me at the hboot image. The only time i have ever had to use a file like that is when i was rooting my phone.
I also do not use cwm, so i am kinda limited in the help i can provide. Did you wipe your system/data/cache before you flashed cm7?
I wiped everything. I've put the SD card in another phone and renamed it back to PC36IMG...lets see what happens LOL
Renamed file back to PC36IMG...still stuck in boot loop
What exactly are you using the pc36img for?
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What exactly are you using the pc36img for?
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I'm not using it for anything. It's just there from back when I rooted the phone. I had renamed it a while ago. Everything was going fine, install CM7 GX4 ROM, rebooted, attempted to install GAPPS and thats when I got stuck going back and forth between the two screens. I have put the SD card in another phone and renamed it to the original PC36IMG (figuring since I was stuck at a screen saying Welcome to PC36100 it couldnt find the file or something), and I'm still having the same problems. I've wiped and wiped and wiped using CWM and reinstalled CM7-GX4 several times and am still getting the same bootloop.
I'm running a restore from CWM...hopefully that will take me back to a point where I can do something.
yeah, you dont need the pc36img after you root so that is not the problem. My only guess is that cwm is not wiping everything properly or you are missing a step in the install process. I guess you can try a few things:
See if your cwm recovery is up to date (i know earlier versions had issues clearing out properly, but that has since been fixed)
Start back from the beginning of the install process with that rom. Make sure to wipe data, system, and cache, and go back through step by step (sometimes it is easy to overlook a step). Also i noticed in the rom you are using it says to make sure to flash the wi-max kernel, so make sure you do that.
Lastly, I have never used that rom, but if you do not need 4g you can try flashing the actual cyanogenmod nightlies. They are very stable (its what i am running now), and you can grab the latest nightly from:http://mirror.teamdouche.net and grab the gapps from: http://goo-inside.me (universal package)
Sorry to lay a crap load of info on you, but i just don't know what would cause it. A bootloop (which is what you are experiencing with the going back and forth between screens) basically means something did not install right and is making your phone restart over and over.
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yeah, you dont need the pc36img after you root so that is not the problem. My only guess is that cwm is not wiping everything properly or you are missing a step in the install process. I guess you can try a few things:
See if your cwm recovery is up to date (i know earlier versions had issues clearing out properly, but that has since been fixed)
Start back from the beginning of the install process with that rom. Make sure to wipe data, system, and cache, and go back through step by step (sometimes it is easy to overlook a step). Also i noticed in the rom you are using it says to make sure to flash the wi-max kernel, so make sure you do that.
Lastly, I have never used that rom, but if you do not need 4g you can try flashing the actual cyanogenmod nightlies. They are very stable (its what i am running now), and you can grab the latest nightly from: mirror.teamdouche.net and grab the gapps from: goo-inside.me (universal package)
Sorry to lay a crap load of info on you, but i just don't know what would cause it. A bootloop (which is what you are experiencing with the going back and forth between screens) basically means something did not install right and is making your phone restart over and over.
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I ran the recovery and got back to an old point. I guess I'll try again! Weird that it happened after flashing GAPPS as everything was fine up until that point. I'll grab the gapps from your source. Thanks!
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I ran the recovery and got back to an old point. I guess I'll try again! Weird that it happened after flashing GAPPS as everything was fine up until that point. I'll grab the gapps from your source. Thanks!
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Well, i would only use the gapps from the link i provided if you are going to flash the official cm7 nightlies. I wouldnt mix and match! i surely don't want to cause further problems for you! lol. I was reading over that rom and I am not sure why you would need to reboot between installing the rom and the gapps. But again, not familiar with that version!
Sorry i couldnt help more hope you get it!
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Well, i would only use the gapps from the link i provided if you are going to flash the official cm7 nightlies. I wouldnt mix and match! i surely don't want to cause further problems for you! lol. I was reading over that rom and I am not sure why you would need to reboot between installing the rom and the gapps. But again, not familiar with that version!
Sorry i couldnt help more hope you get it!
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I used the gapps from your source and everything went fine. Thanks again for the help!
no problemo, glad you got it working!
Hey guys, check it out. I just figured out how to get into clockwork recovery, and assuming and going about flashing a rom just like I would on my evo, I go ahead and download a rom for the epic, flash it, and it works fine. So it loads up like normal after a flash n reboot, and it kept saying no service... so I was like... uh... weird.. so I booted back into clockwork and tried nand back to the backup I did before flashing anything, of course... but I started getting an error saying it couldn't open recovery.log and now it freezes restoring at saying "lost+found" .... so I pull the batter, and now it just automatically revolts to clockwork all the time, and trying to boot the system normally... I'm not using CWM 3+.. rather the older 2.xx ... any ideas?
It's hard to understand your writing. I think the best thing you can do is use Odin to flash back to stock and start over. You didn't say what version of android you were on but if it's dk28 did you flash the modem?
What rom did you flash? I take it you were on stock di18 before?
Flashing a rom based on one of the leaked froyo builds without also flashing a modem could cause the initial problem.
And nandroid doesn't backup or restore the kernel, so using that to restore still leaves you with the kernel of the rom you flashed before, which can cause problems across build versions.
You're best bet is to odin back to di18 and start again.
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It's hard to understand your writing. I think the best thing you can do is use Odin to flash back to stock and start over. You didn't say what version of android you were on but if it's dk28 did you flash the modem?
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Thanks a bunch, I know I re-read my post and was like.. man I wasnt descriptive at all... LOL, but I checked out this Odin, and TBH i have NO idea what all this stuff is for the Epic, only doing it to fix the booboo I did on my g/f's phone I have the Evo so its totally different stuff almost... Anyways im back to stock, now I need to read up before screwing around again .