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16GB internal + SD card. How does it work?

how does Apps2SD work when you have internal memory and an SD Card?
If you don't have an SD card, do the apps go to internal Memory.
Just curious how this all works since my current phone doesn't have internal RAM.
What I would like to do is keep Music/videos in one storage and apps in the other.

Since the phone has 16GB storage on it, theres no reason to use App2SD at all. You can run all your apps off the phone's 16GB storage.
The 16GB (actually ~11.5GB) comes up as "USB Storage" in Settings > Storage if thats what your wondering.
An SD card will show up separately under SD Card. Though in a file manager, the 16GB onboard shows up as your storage, the SD card under an "external sd" folder

Treefallingquietly said:
how does Apps2SD work when you have internal memory and an SD Card?
If you don't have an SD card, do the apps go to internal Memory.
Just curious how this all works since my current phone doesn't have internal RAM.
What I would like to do is keep Music/videos in one storage and apps in the other.
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I cant possibly see why anyone would still use Apps2SD with this amount of internal storage. Accessing apps from an external drive is so much slower.

Actually there is only 2 gb of storage for apps. The rest of the internal memory is for media and other files. If you choose to install to SD it will install to external SD card.
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satur9ine said:
Actually there is only 2 gb of storage for apps. The rest of the internal memory is for media and other files. If you choose to install to SD it will install to external SD card.
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Yes there is 2gbs for apps. If u use app2sd u can put the apps on the other internal partition thy has 11gb. Works for me when I tried it.
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strongsteve said:
I cant possibly see why anyone would still use Apps2SD with this amount of internal storage. Accessing apps from an external drive is so much slower.
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This is good to know. So based on all the other comments, Apps go to the internal memory or the extended internal memory and I can keep music/video/books on SD.
thanks all.

Finally got hands on with phone. I noticed the internal memory is listed as USB storage but when I go to app management it doesn't give me the option to move apps out of ram to USB memory, just move to SD card.
What gives?

How do they get away with saying it's 16GB internal when it's actually 11.5GB?

Its pretty amazing how much this phone brings to the table... 1gig ram, 16gig internal storage.. this phone keeps.blowing me away, it really does. I am very impressed with samsung. I would be running roms on my evo and it didn't have enough ram to hold the contents of a web pagr if I multi tasked to xda. I would hold the home button and fast switch to the internet again and the browser would have to load it all over again instead of having enough ram to just keep it there. I'm inlove haha

IA-32e said:
How do they get away with saying it's 16GB internal when it's actually 11.5GB?
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I'm not exactly sure how it works but I think 2gig is partuined for apps and some more for the rom right?

This hasn't worked for me. Everytime I try to move apps to internal storage, it says that there is no sd card inserted, and I need to insert one.

Can some suggest a good way to use the memory?
The Incredible had 8GB internal but the phone was setup never to use it, except for pictures. Everything went on the SDcard. I bought the Incredible used and the guy did a full reset from with in Android but when I got it the internal memory was still full of pictures, unfortunately nothing X-rated or blackmailable.
The E4GT is just as *ssbackwards. In / you have an sdcard which is internal storage. In sdcard you have a link for ext_sd and usbStorage. I put my Music in usbStorage and no music app can find it. How crazy is that? I just want one sdcard link that actually goes to the sdcard, that I would use for Media. The internal sdcard memory used for /data and a home folder. Come on Samsung, doesn't that make more sense?

bluefire808 said:
I'm not exactly sure how it works but I think 2gig is partuined for apps and some more for the rom right?
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Ok that makes sense.

gedster314 said:
Can some suggest a good way to use the memory?
The Incredible had 8GB internal but the phone was setup never to use it, except for pictures. Everything went on the SDcard. I bought the Incredible used and the guy did a full reset from with in Android but when I got it the internal memory was still full of pictures, unfortunately nothing X-rated or blackmailable.
The E4GT is just as *ssbackwards. In / you have an sdcard which is internal storage. In sdcard you have a link for ext_sd and usbStorage. I put my Music in usbStorage and no music app can find it. How crazy is that? I just want one sdcard link that actually goes to the sdcard, that I would use for Media. The internal sdcard memory used for /data and a home folder. Come on Samsung, doesn't that make more sense?
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+1. I too would love to know if there's a "best practice" for how to manage the storage memory on the EG4T. Should I just put all media in the onboard USB storage, and then only use my SD card as overflow, or are there certain things that might be better put on the SD card? I'm probably overthinking this, but I'd like to get a handle on this now while the device is new and I don't have much on it yet.

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I have filled the internal sd with some games and have room on external sd how do I transfer aps from internal sd to external sd? I have searched found some things about a apk converter??? I love the 16gb internal but it is not enough for my needs. I did see the adb method to swap internal and external sd cards.

HappyFillmore said:
I have filled the internal sd with some games and have room on external sd how do I transfer aps from internal sd to external sd? I have searched found some things about a apk converter??? I love the 16gb internal but it is not enough for my needs. I did see the adb method to swap internal and external sd cards.
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look into darktremor apps2sd maybe? not claiming it works, just a suggestion

bluefire808 said:
I'm not exactly sure how it works but I think 2gig is partuined for apps and some more for the rom right?
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The rom takes up about 3 gigs (just under) and 2 gigs are partitioned for apps. The rest is partitioned as USB Mass Storage (11.5) So 11.5+2+2.5 = 16, thats a rough estimate of how it breaks down anyways. The OS is usually between 2.5-3 gigs depending on how much the manufacturer adds to it. Stock Android is 2 gigs. Sammy doesnt add major bloat so it comes out to like 2.5 to 2.65 gigs. Motorola however usually comes out to 2.75-3 gigs. Which is why I like Sammy. ICS is about 3 gigs stock though, so remember that when you decide to upgrade to ICS later on. You'll be sacrificing memory on a device that wasnt built for it. Sammy added that extra memory for when ICS does come out, just in case. They were aware of the extra memory in ICS.

[Q] What is the "SD Card" in my GNex?

So rooting and ROM running have a lot to do with your SD card, with data being split between the SD card and the phone which makes plenty of sense (I understand it is more complex than this, I am just referring to the fact that some data is on the SD while some is on the phone itself). My Thunderbolt made sense to me. When I go to recovery, I see that files are stored on my SD card and that was logical as I indeed had an SD card, but what is the SD card that recovery is telling me about on my GNex? Is it just a matter of a partition that separates the GNex hard drive into one section that it calls the "SD Card?"

/sdcard/ is your phone's internal hard drive
its pretty much a irremovable sdcard. thats it.
if you use a galaxy s phone,
it has irremovable sd card + expandable. so it'd be /sdcard/sd/
or /sdcard/ /removable/sdcard/

zephiK said:
/sdcard/ is your phone's internal hard drive
its pretty much a irremovable sdcard. thats it.
if you use a galaxy s phone,
it has irremovable sd card + expandable. so it'd be /sdcard/sd/
or /sdcard/ /removable/sdcard/
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So the "SD" part is a catch all for both types of storage? I never thought about it before because all of my Android phones up until now have had an SD slot (Evo, Thunderbolt). Thanks for the answer!

The /sdcard on the Galaxy Nexus is just a symlink to a folder on the data partition: /data/media
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Your phones storage is just one big partition. There's no separate system / sdcard storage.
You'll notice this is why there is no USB Mass Storage on the Galaxy Nexus (uses MTP/PTP), as you wouldn't be able to mount the entire storage because the system needs to continue running.

So is there a way to stop CWM from wiping /data/media when you wipe data?

hacky486 said:
So is there a way to stop CWM from wiping /data/media when you wipe data?
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It won't wipe it by default, nothing extra to do
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Some apps have error when trying to backup data cos default dir is "sdcard"!
There's our issue...
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Storage

I have a few general and a few specific questions regarding storage:
1. Why did Samsung create 2 directories for internal storage? It has regular internal storage and "SD" storage but both are really internal storage. Why not just make one big partition and SD storage is actually your removable SD card (this is how it was on the OG EV) Someone please explain this to me if you know the answer.
2. On CM9 rom how do you save apps and their data to a external SD card? I'm trying to install a Gameloft game but it's saying I don't have enough space available which I certainly do.
3. On TW based ICS roms how do you save apps w/ data on the actual external sd card? Possibly planning on trying out Rujelus' rom so I'd like to know before hand.

SantinoInc said:
I have a few general and a few specific questions regarding storage:
1. Why did Samsung create 2 directories for internal storage? It has regular internal storage and "SD" storage but both are really internal storage. Why not just make one big partition and SD storage is actually your removable SD card (this is how it was on the OG EV) Someone please explain this to me if you know the answer.
2. On CM9 rom how do you save apps and their data to a external SD card? I'm trying to install a Gameloft game but it's saying I don't have enough space available which I certainly do.
3. On TW based ICS roms how do you save apps w/ data on the actual external sd card? Possibly planning on trying out Rujelus' rom so I'd like to know before hand.
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The OG evo didnt have an emmc partition. It had internal storage dedicated to things like app storage, same as any other phone. You cant mount internal storage to your PC so combining these would be a waste of space.
You might be able to push game data from emmc to the sd card and they might still locate it but I have never tried as I never fill up my emmc, I just keep everything else on the sdcard. But worth a shot.
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barnacles10 said:
The OG evo didnt have an emmc partition. It had internal storage dedicated to things like app storage, same as any other phone. You cant mount internal storage to your PC so combining these would be a waste of space.
You might be able to push game data from emmc to the sd card and they might still locate it but I have never tried as I never fill up my emmc, I just keep everything else on the sdcard. But worth a shot.
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I don't quite get your reply but to make things easier for myself what is the best way to format the SDcard. I am talking about the internal SDcard not my actual removable micro SD card. I know there is an option in storage but I don't know what SD card its referring to.

SantinoInc said:
I don't quite get your reply but to make things easier for myself what is the best way to format the SDcard. I am talking about the internal SDcard not my actual removable micro SD card. I know there is an option in storage but I don't know what SD card its referring to.
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Just remove your external then hit the format option in storage. And if you move back to the fd16 kernel on cm9a3 you will be much happier with the way the storage is handled.
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[Q] Has anyone made a custom .pit file for a bigger partition on internal memory?

So, has anyone made or found a custom .pit file to repartition the internal memory to a larger /data partition?
Any ideas?
Would LOVE that as opposed to using external SD.:silly:

demoncamber said:
So, has anyone made or found a custom .pit file to repartition the internal memory to a larger /data partition?
Any ideas?
Would LOVE that as opposed to using external SD.:silly:
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No. That's the simple answer.
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demoncamber said:
So, has anyone made or found a custom .pit file to repartition the internal memory to a larger /data partition?
Any ideas?
Would LOVE that as opposed to using external SD.:silly:
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Just use a partition swapper or something like that, though I don't understand why, this device does OK with internal storage and a 32gb SD card
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soupysoup said:
Just use a partition swapper or something like that, though I don't understand why, this device does OK with internal storage and a 32gb SD card
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I thought it would be too... but add a few games and 94 apps later, you're dangerously close to the "low space" warning... /data is only 1.9gb of space... Kind of absurd if you think about it. I already have a 32gb sdhc card, why shouldn't I be able to extend the /data partition to take up some of my unused space on internal memory?
Plus, if the partition were on the internal memory, it would be faster and more optimal than an sdhc card...

[Q] [Help] A Single partition and external SD

Hello,
Phone: Samsung galaxy grand i9080L.
Now the question:
Am i able to make a single partition of internal storage? Because the phone came with 8 gb but it have 2 partitions on the internal memory, "System" and "Internal SD" , I just wanna a single one to control better things and as if i move to "SD" Its going to the internal SD and the external (MicroSD) Is not on use -_-

GabrielCool1 said:
Hello,
Phone: Samsung galaxy grand i9080L.
Now the question:
Am i able to make a single partition of internal storage? Because the phone came with 8 gb but it have 2 partitions on the internal memory, "System" and "Internal SD" , I just wanna a single one to control better things and as if i move to "SD" Its going to the internal SD and the external (MicroSD) Is not on use -_-
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You cannot use the system partition as it's reserved for the OS.Don't mess up with it, doing so may/will brick your phone If you are on Stock or ANY ROM with App2SD support you can move apps to External SD Card. Check whether your ROM supports App2SD or not.

Trilochanaaya said:
You cannot use the system partition as it's reserved for the OS.Don't mess up with it, doing so may/will brick your phone If you are on Stock or ANY ROM with App2SD support you can move apps to External SD Card. Check whether your ROM supports App2SD or not.
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I can't, that's why, app2sd move em' to "sdcard0" which means (in my phone) emulated/0/ (Folder) and not to the external sd card. Already tryied many ways and still same, and well so.
What i wanted to do? as "system" is the internal storage i wanted to merge it with "emulated" which is the internal storage but in a partition to emulate a External SD Card so if its only 1 internal storage the microSD will work as it should work, because on my older phone(Ice mobile apollo touch) I was able to see apps, data, etc, on microsd as only had 1 internal storage.. Now as the sdcard is even in the internal , the external is empty. Its a problem too for cracked applications that need data/obb.

GabrielCool1 said:
I can't, that's why, app2sd move em' to "sdcard0" which means (in my phone) emulated/0/ (Folder) and not to the external sd card. Already tryied many ways and still same, and well so.
What i wanted to do? as "system" is the internal storage i wanted to merge it with "emulated" which is the internal storage but in a partition to emulate a External SD Card so if its only 1 internal storage the microSD will work as it should work, because on my older phone(Ice mobile apollo touch) I was able to see apps, data, etc, on microsd as only had 1 internal storage.. Now as the sdcard is even in the internal , the external is empty. Its a problem too for cracked applications that need data/obb.
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What ROM are u using?

Trilochanaaya said:
What ROM are u using?
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4.2.2 supossed to be stock, downloaded from sammobile to my operator/country as my ROM was literaly "f*ck*d" for a stupid thing i did so.
I just searched GT-i9080L and the latest android(4.2.2) was the one i downloaded, btw, the partition came with the phone, wasn't made by me or a rom and also, the phone didn't come new, i bought it from 2nd hand.

In Grand Internal memory will be shown as sdcard0 and External memory will be shown as sdcard1. Is external storage i.e. Sdcard1 mounting for you?

Trilochanaaya said:
In Grand Internal memory will be shown as sdcard0 and External memory will be shown as sdcard1. Is external storage i.e. Sdcard1 mounting for you?
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If i use a explorer i can only see 2. SDCard and internal memory, if i search through internal memory i'll find a folder called emulated, inside, another called 0, inside, all the things that should be on sdcard, which means that this "emulated" emulates a sdcard inside the phone. and yeah, external sd = sdcard1.
internal sd(emulated) = sdcard0
internal memory = internal memory o.o

External is actually /extSdcard on stock ROMs afaik.

akiratoriyama said:
External is actually /extSdcard on stock ROMs afaik.
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I know right, but it isn't used as Sdcard, the sdcard that it uses its a emulated sdcard INSIDE the internal memory.

GabrielCool1 said:
Hello,
Phone: Samsung galaxy grand i9080L.
Now the question:
Am i able to make a single partition of internal storage? Because the phone came with 8 gb but it have 2 partitions on the internal memory, "System" and "Internal SD" , I just wanna a single one to control better things and as if i move to "SD" Its going to the internal SD and the external (MicroSD) Is not on use -_-
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2869939
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will it work on s2 plus