So, I am sure somewhere deep in the bowels of the forum this has been answered before. Unfortunately my searches have not yielded any results. Please forgive me for repeating the question again.
I've Nexus, just over 2 weeks old. Loving it. Still like my Galaxy Note (international) but having JB and not having clipping blacks on the screen is a win win every time.
In any case, I have of course, unlocked bootloader and rooted it. I also have CWM installed and updated to the latest one with ROM Manager. The only other application that might be doing some changes to system files is Volume+, but I am not sure if it does not does not. There is of course SuperSU installed, Titanium, Root Explorer. Otherwise no other changes, additions, or removals, were done to the phone's software. It is still reporting JB 4.1.1 build JRO03C
My question, in this configuration will I still see OTA updates come up, whenever they appear, or not? And if yes, should I go through and OTA them or will that break something?
While having my GNote running stock ROMs I would not be getting any OTAs since I am in the wrong country for the CSC of the device/ROM. So I never had to deal with that question while using that device.
Thanks in advance for your answers.
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You will probably be notified of them if you have the 4.1.1 bootloader and radio installed. You can't accept it with CWM recovery though. And when you choose to flash it manually via CWM (when the files become available), you'll have to use something like "OTA root keeper" to hold onto root and let you apply the update. It'll properly install assuming you haven't modified system files.
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I am a total noob when it comes to android, i did manage to unlock the bootloader , root and install cwm premium, now i want to update my phone so that i can get the updates directly from google and not from samsung, i have read a million posts and am confused as hell since some people are talking about flashing radio's and also new boitloaders? I have a canadian gsm BELL galaxy nexus can anybody guide me on the easiest way to get this done considering what i have done already?
Thanks
Gunner
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keep doing what you did to get where you are now. and find out you can't get updates from google. directly. now you have to do it on your own.
You could flash roms and kernals of your likings.
Rom is the firmware of the phone.
Kernal is like the main programmable engine that runs the phone. (Usually for OC and UV)
I don't recommend touching the radio though if you got your phone on bell and using it on bell network.
thanks for the help, so as for flashing the stock google firmware would i just download it and flash it using cwm's flash frim sd card option? Also is radio's something that the carrier usually updates or is it something thats there for the life of the phone unless you flash it with something new? Last question is by flashing the stock google firneware does it do anything to radio's or does it stay at stock? Thanks for all the help.
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Flash the latest google official update: click me.
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If you want actual OTA updates from Google, you cannot have CWM. And unless you are doing custom ROMs, I fail to see why you need CWM in the first place.
IMO just stick to stock recovery (flash it back if you already have CWM). Fastboot + adb will take you a long way, should you need to do some low-level work.
Only drawback is that you will need to reroot once you get your OTA updates.
...I downloaded the 4.0.4 update and went to install and reboot. But the phone got stuck at the screen with the android belly up and a exclamation point. Pulled the battery and rebooted and was at 4.0.2 still. Haven't gotten another OTA notification. Do I get another OTA alert or do I have to update manually.
I have a GSM Nexus, rooted but with stock 4.0.2. And I activated OTA RootKeeper before downloading the update. Any help will be greatly accepted.
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Besides root and maybe unlock your bootloader, did you change anything in your system (install mods, different radio etc. or rename system files)? If you are not completely stock your OTA will not work and you will have to update manually or get back to Stock first.
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Nothing changed. Except for root and unlocked bootloader everything is stock.
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Well the screen you were looking at (Android belly up) is the stock recovery. If you see that: no need to pull battery. Simply push volume up + power simultaneously and you'll get into the recovery menu. Scrolling through the options can be done with the volume buttons, select with the power button.
That said: I think no one knows for sure but I myself would not wait and update myself. There are a lot of guides here on how to do that and if you flash the stock images you will have the same as anyone who had the OTA. Make a proper backup first (you allways should)! You will lose all your data if you have to unlock your bootloader.
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jrodsep said:
Nothing changed. Except for root and unlocked bootloader everything is stock.
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Have you installed CWM recovery installed?
The "belly up" android is the phone trying to boot in the stock recovery to update the phone. But as you may have CWM recovery installed (which replaces the stock recovery) the phone cannot complete the update.
You will need to re-install the stock recovery. I believe you can do this with the GNex Toolkit.
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Have you installed CWM recovery installed?
The "belly up" android is the phone trying to boot in the stock recovery to update the phone. But as you may have CWM recovery installed (which replaces the stock recovery) the phone cannot complete the update.
You will need to re-install the stock recovery. I believe you can do this with the GNex Toolkit.
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Is it possible to get the Stock Recovery Screen when you have CWM installed? Didn't think that was possible... that it would just boot into CWM recovery. That is why I didn't mention it (trying to learn here).
Same problem here. Stock 4.0.2, rooted, CWM installed.
Does this mean we will lose settings before we are able to update the device?
Lex_Michdeandroid said:
Same problem here. Stock 4.0.2, rooted, CWM installed.
Does this mean we will lose settings before we are able to update the device?
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this mean you are not eligible for the OTA update mate, because you have a custom recovery
i suggest you to
flash the stock rom manually
flash a custom rom wih 4.04 inside
my 2 cents
Viridis Draco said:
this mean you are not eligible for the OTA update mate, because you have a custom recovery
i suggest you to
flash the stock rom manually
flash a custom rom wih 4.04 inside
my 2 cents
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I don't even understand why I have CWM installed in the first place. I only neet root acces, all the rest can stay stock for all I care... Is there a way to avoid these problems in the future? So be able to root and OTA at the same time?
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Lex_Michdeandroid said:
I don't even understand why I have CWM installed in the first place. I only neet root acces, all the rest can stay stock for all I care... Is there a way to avoid these problems in the future? So be able to root and OTA at the same time?
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custom recovery is needed in order to install custom ROM dude, is quite simple
and yes, you can root the stock ROM without custom recovery, there are a lot of guide about that in the developer section
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custom recovery is needed in order to install custom ROM dude, is quite simple
and yes, you can root the stock ROM without custom recovery, there are a lot of guide about that in the developer section
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So my only option to fix this now is flash 4.0.4 manually (will I lose stuff?) and then root again and get stock recovery back? Sorry for my n00b questions, thanks for your help!
Edit: would it be easier if I just get the stock recovery back and then try to get the OTA to turn up again?
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So my only option to fix this now is flash 4.0.4 manually (will I lose stuff?) and then root again and get stock recovery back? Sorry for my n00b questions, thanks for your help!
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you have nothing broken mate, i can't tell you if you will lose data, it depend on your ROM, what you flash and mainly how
the Force and the Developer Section is with you, young padawan
damn, i'm playing SW:TOR too much:/
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you have nothing broken mate, i can't tell you if you will lose data, it depend on your ROM, what you flash and mainly how
the Force and the Developer Section is with you, young padawan
damn, i'm playing SW:TOR too much:/
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Thank you master for your soothing words. I just want my Galaxy Nexus to be like he is right out of the box, but rooted. Thats all I need from him... I am guessing my girlfriends Nexus S is going to be a pain in my assholes in a few weeks bc its still on GB and my TF101 will also go haywire because of my rooting adventures...
First this GN nuisance... Guess I am going to have to wait until tomorrow, I am flying to Dublin in about two hours and I don't think I can fix this in time...
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Thank you master for your soothing words. I just want my Galaxy Nexus to be like he is right out of the box, but rooted. Thats all I need from him... I am guessing my girlfriends Nexus S is going to be a pain in my assholes in a few weeks bc its still on GB and my TF101 will also go haywire because of my rooting adventures...
First this GN nuisance... Guess I am going to have to wait until tomorrow, I am flying to Dublin in about two hours and I don't think I can fix this in time...
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i agree, take your time and you wouldn't regret it
I want to manually flash 4.0.4 and stay unrooted. Should I use the GNex Toolkit to flash 4.0.4 directly or do I need to flash the same version I have on my phone?
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I had the same issue described by the OP, the belly up android when trying to update to 4.0.4 from the OTA notification. I had previously changed to 4.0.2 yakju using efrant's instructions from the first post in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391881
However, I had skipped the optional sections. In particular step 12 to flash the recovery partition. I went back and just executed step 12 (fastboot flash recovery recovery.img) and rebooted. Then I was able to update to 4.0.4 successfully from the OTA notification.
I'm guessing I didn't have the "stock recovery" because I previously had the default Samsung version?
Just got the update again OTA, and again the belly up droid. I'm really pissed now, bc it also reset my Go launcher... Had 7 screens w/ widgets and shortcuts...
Why did it go wrong again? I thought I put back the recovery to stock to solve the OTA problem... Should I do other things? The phone starts to really slow down and I'm ready to toss this piece of c* in the bin...
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Lex_Michdeandroid said:
Just got the update again OTA, and again the belly up droid. I'm really pissed now, bc it also reset my Go launcher... Had 7 screens w/ widgets and shortcuts...
Why did it go wrong again? I thought I put back the recovery to stock to solve the OTA problem... Should I do other things? The phone starts to really slow down and I'm ready to toss this piece of c* in the bin...
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I had the same issue just now with my phone (unlocked, rooted, stock revcovery), but a quick reboot allowed the update to complete and I'm now on 4.0.4. Did you check the version number again after this latest attempt?
Yes, still 4.0.2.
And of course, my phone says I'm up to date. Lovely, NAAAAAT!
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So I know the rule about never accepting otas but I was asked a question and couldn't remember. So if I accept an ota will it brick my phone or will it just update and unroot?
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depends on what you did to your phone with root access.
are you on stock? ROM?
Yea stock rom just rooted
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Well if you are on stock and you rooted, you will most likely lose your root (although some posts around here say that root aces is preserved during update in some rare cases).
If you are on a custom rom (e.g. if you installed an update using a custom recovery) and you are updating to a stock update then you will be likely screwing your phones system. depending on where you messed (or let a programmer mess using custom recovery or Rom managers) you could be bricking your phone as well since there are updates for boot and recovery in the stock updates to 4.0.2 and 4.0.4 (I don't count 4.0.3 since google pulled it off their site).
If you want a stock version of the newest android for your GN make it a manual patch by following this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391881 make sure you do flash the boot, recovery and radio as well...
But before you do that check in with the forum thread or website were you got your custom rom or root method and ask them for advice, Yeah do that! It's the safest way to do something when you know how others got to the point where you wanna go!
Thx alot
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Please let us know how things worked out for you.
Hint: after following the steps above you are on the official google builds. Nice thing about that is you get new android versions as updates on the very second they are released. And most things that come with root are already available in the unrooted system (except overclocking) so why bother about root and stuff when you as a non-developing user can acces more priveleges on stock while rom builders for other phones try to keep up with YOUR system?
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I'm completely stock right now just a rooted 4.0.2 I will probably stay like this until cm9 becomes stable or AokP next milestone comes out because he current one did not agree with my phone at all
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i'm running 4.1.
and since a few days ago, my nexus is saying the update is ready and i should update.. i guess it's 4.2?
anyway, last time i updated like this, i lost my root..
so what's the easiest way to accept this system update but still keep my root?
The easiest way is just to flash a rooted stock 4.2 ROM. I don't know why people are so dependent on OTA when they're XDA members...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419170
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Install an ap called "OTA rootkeeper" by Voodoo, run it and give it root permissions.
Then it'll do what it says (I last used it on a GN about the 4.0.1 update, should still work though).
I tried this process earlier today, i mean, JOP40C -> JOP40D through OTA, worked fine..
Rooted it in like 1 min. Still got the stock recovery on too. To an unlocked user, i don't see the point of protecting root with app X or Y.
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Make sure you have a unlocked bootloader, the rest is non-issue.....
Beamed from my Grouper.
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The easiest way is just to flash a rooted stock 4.2 ROM. I don't know why people are so dependent on OTA when they're XDA members...
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this..
agree with others just flash a rom which is 4.2 there are a few in the developers section which are pure 4.2 or look at rasbeanjelly which is pure 4.2 with a few nice tweaks.
The custom roms are often ahead of the google ones they had the date fixed in the contacts app before google pushed a fix
This is a NOOB question, but need to understand this. Any help is appreciated.
From this page, I rooted my Samsung S3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
ONLY rooting, stopping after step #2.
Someone / ANYONE: Used Mr. Robinson's method on S3 (AT&T) to root. CAN I still get Samsung AND AT&T standard updates??? I only rooted as shown above.
If NOT, I need to understand how to unroot easily I recon...
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This is a NOOB question, but need to understand this. Any help is appreciated.
From this page, I rooted my Samsung S3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
ONLY rooting, stopping after step #2.
Someone / ANYONE: Used Mr. Robinson's method on S3 (AT&T) to root. CAN I still get Samsung AND AT&T standard updates??? I only rooted as shown above.
If NOT, I need to understand how to unroot easily I recon...
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If you root you wont be able to install any ota updates (if there are any more coming) to unroot you would need to Odin a stock unrooted ROM. I know there is a sticky thread for unrooting with directions and the links to the stock ROMs.
IMO the 4.2.2 ROMs out right now far exceed any factory updates that will ever be available but to each their own.
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This is also in the wrong forum BTW.
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KorGuy123 said:
If you root you wont be able to install any ota updates (if there are any more coming) to unroot you would need to Odin a stock unrooted ROM. I know there is a sticky thread for unrooting with directions and the links to the stock ROMs.
IMO the 4.2.2 ROMs out right now far exceed any factory updates that will ever be available but to each their own.
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This is also in the wrong forum BTW.
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I posted this HERE as I was specifically directed to do so from this site: General
I have NOT updated a ROM, using only stock, also I didn't install a ROM manager.
Sounds as though you are recommending I update the ROM.
I was under the impression if I didn't install a ROM manager, just root wouldn't disable my ability to get OEM updates??
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I posted this HERE as I was specifically directed to do so from this site: General
I have NOT updated a ROM, using only stock, also I didn't install a ROM manager.
Sounds as though you are recommending I update the ROM.
I was under the impression if I didn't install a ROM manager, just root wouldn't disable my ability to get OEM updates??
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Well, questions go under Help and Troubleshooting. I don't understand why someone would send you to General. That is odd. Also, in the Help/Troubleshooting/Q&A section, there is a handy "No stupid questions" thread.
You might be able to install updates, as you don't have a custom recovery (that's usually the issue). You'll most probably lose root, though. Funky things can happen, though. Safer to unroot before updating OTA, though.
~Ibrahim~
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Well, questions go under Help and Troubleshooting. I don't understand why someone would send you to General. That is odd. Also, in the Help/Troubleshooting/Q&A section, there is a handy "No stupid questions" thread.
You might be able to install updates, as you don't have a custom recovery (that's usually the issue). You'll most probably lose root, though. Funky things can happen, though. Safer to unroot before updating OTA, though.
~Ibrahim~
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Right, and that's what I'm getting at, because I did NOT install a custom recovery. Okay, wrong place for the post, got it - was directed by a system generated message is all.
Yeah, this is not a stupid question and I would think someone will know the answer based on the method I used to attain root, with my model phone. It either will update, or it won't. I'm trying to understand known future scenarios because I rooted.
And there is a link to UNROOTING here that the system won't allow me list, I tried.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968625
Odin back to stock with firmware included in above thread .
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If and when an updated stock ROM comes out, all you have to do is use ODIN to flash it on to your phone and them re-root. That's it. You'll then have the newest stock ROM with root.
That's what I do. I like the stability of a stock ROM but I like having the freedom to freeze or uninstall a lot of the bloat using Titanium.
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If and when an updated stock ROM comes out, all you have to do is use ODIN to flash it on to your phone and them re-root. That's it. You'll then have the newest stock ROM with root.
That's what I do. I like the stability of a stock ROM but I like having the freedom to freeze or uninstall a lot of the bloat using Titanium.
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Ah ok. I'll have to understand the steps necessary to do that.
So flashing a stock ROM removes root, and then re-root the same method as I used.
Thanks all for the input thus far.
To get a better idea I would say YouTube things like how to root samsung galaxy s3 for whatever carrier you have. And YouTube how to unroot for whatever carrier you have.
And I'm sure you will wonder the question of what's a good rom to use and really it would be you're taste and trail and error. And nanroid is another term of making a backup and how to restore them. I'm telling you now for future headaches learn how to make back ups and how to restore them and move your backups to you're pc.
How I do is I use twr and make a backup of you're rom that you're using. And I plug my phone to the pc and go in the folder of twr and find backups and move the file and save it the pc. But you will learn as you go. Clockwork mod is also another recovery and you can make backups with that also
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To get a better idea I would say YouTube things like how to root samsung galaxy s3 for whatever carrier you have. And YouTube how to unroot for whatever carrier you have.
And I'm sure you will wonder the question of what's a good rom to use and really it would be you're taste and trail and error. And nanroid is another term of making a backup and how to restore them. I'm telling you now for future headaches learn how to make back ups and how to restore them and move your backups to you're pc.
How I do is I use twr and make a backup of you're rom that you're using. And I plug my phone to the pc and go in the folder of twr and find backups and move the file and save it the pc. But you will learn as you go. Clockwork mod is also another recovery and you can make backups with that also
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Immediately after rooting I installed Titanium Backup Pro and backed everything up, moved a copy to PC and off-sys storage.
I don't have ROM versions now, that I should get by following that link above.
toy2boy said:
Immediately after rooting I installed Titanium Backup Pro and backed everything up, moved a copy to PC and off-sys storage.
I don't have ROM versions now, that I should get by following that link above.
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to summarize and simplify:
when updating firmware, you will most likely lose root. download root keeper from the play store to keep your superuser access https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
understand that you may not be able to get the OTA update if you've used your root access to change any system files at all. the updater will check all that before downloading the update and let you know if you're good to go or not.
i would simply wait for an update to release and come back here to xda. in the android development section, you will find a thread that contains stock firmware, both unrooted and with root injected. you can then use odin to flash the latest release and retain root.
cheers
xBeerdroiDx said:
to summarize and simplify:
when updating firmware, you will most likely lose root. download root keeper from the play store to keep your superuser access https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
understand that you may not be able to get the OTA update if you've used your root access to change any system files at all. the updater will check all that before downloading the update and let you know if you're good to go or not.
i would simply wait for an update to release and come back here to xda. in the android development section, you will find a thread that contains stock firmware, both unrooted and with root injected. you can then use odin to flash the latest release and retain root.
cheers
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Yeah, that's exactly what my plan is now.
1) Added root via Odin (Mr. Robinson's method)
2) Downloaded Titanium Backup Pro, ran a full backup / set schedules to keep 2 copies of incremental backups weekly.
3) Downloaded various other apps taking advantage of root
4) Created a file system structure on the PC for ROOT / UNROOT
5) Made sure I have the necessary files in each folder including stock ROMs for root / unroot
6) Wrote the procedures to go both directions easily (no forgetting months down the road).
7) Automated backups from the phone to PC
8) Automated backups of ALL on PC to various external media for storage
- I included TriangleAway in case I flash custom ROMs and need to reset my flash counter.
Currently it's state is NO [as the above process did NOT trip the counter].
- My plan is to Odin flash the next stock ROM with root once available as you mentioned. [Will also update the OEM ROM to unroot at the same time.]
Being new to this (and smart phones) - I needed a method to control this device and not allow it to control me.
Now I feel a sense of stability that I can go in either direction, not lose data, and not lose my sanity in the process.
Thanks for your time!
Ok I have a question on this subject so I don't have to start a new thread.
Will our i747 do over the air updates from AT&T after being rooted? Does the phone have to be completely stock unrooted in order to take an over the air? Just wondering. I do have Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper but thought I'd at least ask the question before I update from 4.1.2 to 4.2 or 4.3 soon from AT&T. Any help appreciated!
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Ok I have a question on this subject so I don't have to start a new thread.
Will our i747 do over the air updates from AT&T after being rooted? Does the phone have to be completely stock unrooted in order to take an over the air? Just wondering. I do have Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper but thought I'd at least ask the question before I update from 4.1.2 to 4.2 or 4.3 soon from AT&T. Any help appreciated!
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Not so sure about Voodoo OTA because i've never used it, but yes you have to 100% stock to use the OTA.
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