I have been using my new windows phone for nearly a day now and I have just noticed that my wifi appears to turn itself off when my phone is in standby. Is this actually the case and, if so, is there any way to prevent this?
I don't have a large data plan and I am concerned about going over my data limit.
Also, is there any way to force the device to only sync when on a wifi connection?
I hope there is an obvious solution to this issue as I like to have full functionality of the device without having to be changing sync settings all the time.
I would grately appreciate some informed assistance with these issues.
ps I have put this post in the lumia 900 section by mistake as I own a lumia 800 but I guess that the same thing applies so would appreciate any help!
Sorry my friend,
Wifi will turn itself off on standby and there is no option to prevent it... However, there are a few apps that will keep the wifi on even in stand by; apps such as "spotify" (I think) and probably most radio/music apps... you could keep it running in the background
You should note that the wifi is automaticaly turned on as soon as your phone is awake and takes over your data connection. So, you could choose to sync your emails manualy.
Hope it helps.
Google search mobility digest keep wifi on trick. The I heart radio app will do that for you.
You can also set up wireless sync in Zune.
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the Data connection is turning on on a regular basis and I can't find any scheduled tasks set up to access the Internet, but some rogue program is? any ideas any one and/or any way I get find out what is causing this.
I have the same problem.. And I'm a little bit tired!
I wrote on this thread with no answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529622
I have a flat data plane but I don't like that PDA face things on his own initiative!!
me neither, I'm in charge - not my new toy! Lets hope someone helps us out this time round.
I had the same problem. In my case the 2 apps connecting to the net were Google Maps and Funambol.
itm said:
I had the same problem. In my case the 2 apps connecting to the net were Google Maps and Funambol.
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Well, I don't use funambol.. And anyway: there are no program in task manamager! So: something is going wrong with manila..
I had the same 'problem', but my brother suggested to turn it off and on again. It did work as far as I could see.
I think it may be google maps causing this, but I'm not sure (and don't really care, since this 'solution' worked).
Any number of added apps can be doing this (Worldmate live is a bad one for example) or any apps still running and not shut down.
Obvious things to check first are:
Do you have automatic email check set?
Have you disabled auto-update in weather and stock quotes?
This drives me crazy too, afaik I have turned off everything yet it keeps turning on... A fix would be highly appreciated!
its the activesync...
turn it off, i mean, delete the settings and you'll be fine. activesync triggers automatic data sync, hence turning on the data connection
I use ActiveSync and don't have this problem. If it was ActiveSync, why would it cause the problem for some and not others ?
itm said:
2 apps connecting to the net were Google Maps and Funambol.
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Well.. I tested all day.. And I can say that I solved the problem!!!
I think that last time I closed gmaps.. I answered in a bad way to the question about updating Glatitude..
So: Gmaps seemed close but it was updating my position on the net!!!
When i opened gmaps i could see my avatar in the map.. So i understand that it was still online..
So.. I think I've solved!
Anyway we need a "netstat" on pocket pc...
Thank you for your advices.
Glad you worked it out.
I put this in the developers forum a while back. Maybe someone smarter than me will work out a solution to this sort of problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530634
As with the poster here. You will have an application that you have inadvertently set to autoupdate. The only thorough solution is to go through every program on your phone and check each setting meticulously. Alternatively. Back up your personal data and hard reset. Then reinstall your apps one by one, testing for an hour after each one. Eventually, you will find the offending app and can work on finding the setting in it to stop it connecting to the net.
Hi all,
the thing is there are dozen possibilities: activesync, alle gps-stuff, all auto-updates. So instead off looking up all these settings, you could also use the nodata.cab - works fine (phone need to be unlocked!)
greetz to all
Kjoere
thanks for all the posts, haven't checked for a while. I have checked everything and noting is set to auto update so very strange and annoying. Will try the nodata.cab - if I can find it?
DJ Palmis said:
Anyway we need a "netstat" on pocket pc...
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Look at "TaskManager 3.1" that has a Netstat tab
Tom
download Modaco Nodata
frogfoot said:
Look at "TaskManager 3.1" that has a Netstat tab
Tom
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Thank you! That is very interesting.
It also can be the build-in Facebook app in Contacts in manila. It has feature to automaticly update in 2 hours. At least, I had mine turned on as default.
The only reliable and "ultimate" solution is really Modaco NoData as mentioned above.
On the other hand not taking third party apps in count, basic traffic of HTC device is nothing to be scared of. Updates for weather, stocks and A-GPS are just few bytes in size... Obviously, GMaps, mail autocheck, Messenger etc. are different story, but none of these are started on their own... BTW, ActiveSync has nothing to do with Internet with one exception - Exchange mail sync, if you have any.
What you have to understand, is behaviour of the active data indicator (small G, E or H next to signal strength). If it's there does not mean, that any data are transferred at the moment. It just indicates opened data slot with current brodcasting tower in the cell. It could stay opened for hours after trasfer even just of few bytes. It closes usually only for two reasons - your phone switches to another cell (and has no reason to open data slot again) or the tower is busy and closes inactive slots to gain more capacity.
Except few rare cases in some coutries you're charged only for data transferred, not for time of the connection and therefore it doesn't matter. In Europe from 1st of July (some new EU limit) one Mb shouldn't cost more than 50 cents and with these basic updates you will NEVER reach it in one month...
Obviously, roaming is another story, but in settings of the standard services you can limit updates just for your country.
How in the crap to i keep this dam phone from switching this on by its dam self? Im sick and tired of it flipping it on whenever a program wants to talk to the Internet or whatever, and Doesnt tell me, ask, me or what ever. I just checked my account and the %$&^#%^& has already used nearly half a MB of data. So, how can i force it, when i turn OFF the Data connections, to STAY OFF until i go back, and turn it back on manually?
Also, Since when does the GPS use data? WTF?
probably using A-GPS ??
anyway, download and install nodata, perfect for your situation
Have you tried the tiny and useful app no-data?
http://www.apptodate.org/nodata.cab
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probably using A-GPS ??
anyway, download and install nodata, perfect for your situation
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It may have been, i turned it off. I didnt think Agps would use Data, only look for towers, which i thought the dam phones did anyway.
I haven't tried nodata, but ill give it a shot. (long as it doesnt kill my wi-fi)
I think he meant quickGPS, where the phone downloads the gps satellites' information for a faster lock. This does require a connection so it's logical the phone'd be trying to connect. But from what I understand it only needs to download the lists once in a while, not every time you check your position. I even read somewhere that the lists it downloads are good for seven days, which would mean it'd try to connect once a week if that info is correct.
Hi!
It can be the Facebook app, build in the manila. Try to go People -> More -> Actualisation and Events -> Settings and turn off the automatic actualisation of state. I had mine turned on as default.
It also can be a Google maps or any other application that have feature to automaticaly connect to the net.
Hope it will help.
Sry for my english.
Sorry, forgot to report back. Nodata seems to have solved the issue. Sucks it was nessessary. You would think if you turned off Data in the phone settings, it would stay off.
Thanks guys.
Few days ago I installed the new Kernel that fixes the network counters from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468626 (thanks to ardatdat).
Immediately I noticed that the traffic is counting up way too quickly. I looked at my bills to see if this is new, and realized that since I got the phone, my monthly traffic was consistently at 200-400MB per month, even though I can explain maybe 30MB per month (I have access to wifi pretty much anywhere I go).
So, started digging. In the last 3 days there's been 25MB down and 50MB up. With all the testing I was doing, I can explain maybe 10 down and 5 up. So, using the TrafficCounter app, I found that a system app called "Task Manager" is responsible for the traffic (attached screencap displays traffic over 4 hours).
It doesn't slowly count up. Instead, it will stay at the same mark, then all of a sudden change by 2.2MB. Every time. So it looks like it packages something and sends it off. The most interesting thing? It only does it when on 3G. If I'm connected to WIFI, it's silent. Like it doesn't want me to see what it's doing.
So, installed Shark, and made a traffic capture. I was able to capture the outgoing SSL stream that was exactly 2.18MB. Destination IP 74.125.226.65 resolves to yyz06s07-in-f1.1e100.net. Browsing there gives google's front page......
Checked the TCP stream, right before the transfer, there's a DNS lookup for android.clients.google.com, which responds with that IP address.
Checking SSL Cert gives me *.google.com cert. Same one as for all of their sites
So it turns out every 3 or so hours there's a 2.2MB transfer from my phone to the google servers via encrypted channel.
Looking further, my wife's and my mother's androids are showing just as much data on their bills, they got Nexus S and Galaxy S. While I can see my wife using so much data, it's doubtful my mom has even figured out how to consume so much traffic.
Anyone else notice this?
What is the purpose of it? If it's legitimate, how can they justify using so much of my limited monthly bandwidth?
You've checked the "keep my phone backed up to my google account" button on setup. You can re-run the setup to uncheck that option, but until then it'll continue to send those big packages, and it prefers the 3G connection. I've taken to leaving my WIFI on and connected at all times. With a measly 200MB/month plan (AT&T can blow me for un-grandfathering my unlimited data), a 15MB backup nightly was killing me...
L4T
If it is the sync feature using all this data, you can disable the automatic sync from Settings > Accounts and Sync. It doesn't appear there's any way to tell it to only sync on Wifi, but I'm sure most of the data monitoring apps out there can stop apps from using mobile data. Onavo, for instance, claims to have this feature, but I haven't had cause to use it yet.
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You've checked the "keep my phone backed up to my google account" button on setup. You can re-run the setup to uncheck that option, but until then it'll continue to send those big packages, and it prefers the 3G connection. I've taken to leaving my WIFI on and connected at all times. With a measly 200MB/month plan (AT&T can blow me for un-grandfathering my unlimited data), a 15MB backup nightly was killing me...
L4T
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Thanks, that was it! Didn't expect that setting there. It's upsetting that there's no way to configure that feature - such as how often to send data, to only send incrementals, or such an advanced setting as upload only when connected to WIFI.
Problem with leaving wifi on all the time is the fact that it eats battery a lot. If my wifi is on all the time, the battery life is about 40% shorter
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Thanks, that was it! Didn't expect that setting there. It's upsetting that there's no way to configure that feature - such as how often to send data, to only send incrementals, or such an advanced setting as upload only when connected to WIFI.
Problem with leaving wifi on all the time is the fact that it eats battery a lot. If my wifi is on all the time, the battery life is about 40% shorter
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No problem, could you append [SOLVED] to your original post?
Thanks
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Using ifconfig Android to enable or disable a network device will effectively control it's powered state. I know this because I am an advanced Linux user. The basic function of ifconfig is the same between devices/architectures, and since all Android devices are based on Linux, i see no reason why this cannot be done.
Currently, when you shut off your wifi or mobile data, its never really off. To confirm this, I shut off my wifi, turned my phone to airplane mode to make sure I wasn't connected, but when I arrived home again later, I still received a couple of new messages from my yahoo mail and kik. My first though was "... The heck?" I knew I wasn't supposed to be able to receive anything. I even had autosync turned off also for good measure. I couldn't explain it at first... Upon checking the timestamp, it revealed to me that I received the notifications the exact moment I arrived home, but the original Sent time from the source is when I was not home. Remember, all data was turned off by me and I did not receive anything the entire time i was out. (airplane mode, and i have no active phone service)
I double-checked and surely enough, my settings were still all off according to what I could see and verify. That tells me it's not really off and it knew I was home and connected to wifi anyway briefly, even though I had it off. That tells me that even though I turned off the wifi and mobile data and set the advanced settings to never "always allow scanning even while turned off" for location services, its STILL on!! Unacceptable. Deceitful. Wrong. When I tell it to turn off I expect it to stay off, dang it...
Talk about unexpected battery drain. Imagine being comfortable in knowing you've shut off all these things, to then find out later that these settings are present just to trick you in to letting your guard down! The question is, why would Google put in place these settings if only to be overridden anyway? There is no reason except their own sneaky one.
My goal here is to recruit someone to build an app or widget for rooted users to physically disable the device via push-button widget or app, not just disassociate from any given wifi AP or mobile data service. (wifi_dassoc kernel command) Anyone with some spare time and knowledge of Android programming and use of ifconfig is welcome. I welcome more than one person also. A team even... Haha. You guys converse and figure it out. I'll be watching, and Thanks! Hope you find this to your liking and interest.
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My phone is all stock and will stay this way so please do not suggest rooting or alternate ROMs, I have another phone for that to play with.
After I upgraded to Android 10, there is one thing that tremendously pissing me off, and it is when my phone automatically connects to a wifi network requiring log-in and turns mobile data off, essentially throwing me into off-line mode. How retarded this is?! Previously (before the upgrade) it would keep the data ON until I logged into the network, and if I didn't stay at a place long enough (like a cafe) I didn't care about loging in at all and just staying with my phone data.
I looked through all the settings and couldn't find this option I need. Is it there and I'm not looking in the right place, or do others have similar issue?