How in the crap to i keep this dam phone from switching this on by its dam self? Im sick and tired of it flipping it on whenever a program wants to talk to the Internet or whatever, and Doesnt tell me, ask, me or what ever. I just checked my account and the %$&^#%^& has already used nearly half a MB of data. So, how can i force it, when i turn OFF the Data connections, to STAY OFF until i go back, and turn it back on manually?
Also, Since when does the GPS use data? WTF?
probably using A-GPS ??
anyway, download and install nodata, perfect for your situation
Have you tried the tiny and useful app no-data?
http://www.apptodate.org/nodata.cab
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probably using A-GPS ??
anyway, download and install nodata, perfect for your situation
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It may have been, i turned it off. I didnt think Agps would use Data, only look for towers, which i thought the dam phones did anyway.
I haven't tried nodata, but ill give it a shot. (long as it doesnt kill my wi-fi)
I think he meant quickGPS, where the phone downloads the gps satellites' information for a faster lock. This does require a connection so it's logical the phone'd be trying to connect. But from what I understand it only needs to download the lists once in a while, not every time you check your position. I even read somewhere that the lists it downloads are good for seven days, which would mean it'd try to connect once a week if that info is correct.
Hi!
It can be the Facebook app, build in the manila. Try to go People -> More -> Actualisation and Events -> Settings and turn off the automatic actualisation of state. I had mine turned on as default.
It also can be a Google maps or any other application that have feature to automaticaly connect to the net.
Hope it will help.
Sry for my english.
Sorry, forgot to report back. Nodata seems to have solved the issue. Sucks it was nessessary. You would think if you turned off Data in the phone settings, it would stay off.
Thanks guys.
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the Data connection is turning on on a regular basis and I can't find any scheduled tasks set up to access the Internet, but some rogue program is? any ideas any one and/or any way I get find out what is causing this.
I have the same problem.. And I'm a little bit tired!
I wrote on this thread with no answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529622
I have a flat data plane but I don't like that PDA face things on his own initiative!!
me neither, I'm in charge - not my new toy! Lets hope someone helps us out this time round.
I had the same problem. In my case the 2 apps connecting to the net were Google Maps and Funambol.
itm said:
I had the same problem. In my case the 2 apps connecting to the net were Google Maps and Funambol.
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Well, I don't use funambol.. And anyway: there are no program in task manamager! So: something is going wrong with manila..
I had the same 'problem', but my brother suggested to turn it off and on again. It did work as far as I could see.
I think it may be google maps causing this, but I'm not sure (and don't really care, since this 'solution' worked).
Any number of added apps can be doing this (Worldmate live is a bad one for example) or any apps still running and not shut down.
Obvious things to check first are:
Do you have automatic email check set?
Have you disabled auto-update in weather and stock quotes?
This drives me crazy too, afaik I have turned off everything yet it keeps turning on... A fix would be highly appreciated!
its the activesync...
turn it off, i mean, delete the settings and you'll be fine. activesync triggers automatic data sync, hence turning on the data connection
I use ActiveSync and don't have this problem. If it was ActiveSync, why would it cause the problem for some and not others ?
itm said:
2 apps connecting to the net were Google Maps and Funambol.
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Well.. I tested all day.. And I can say that I solved the problem!!!
I think that last time I closed gmaps.. I answered in a bad way to the question about updating Glatitude..
So: Gmaps seemed close but it was updating my position on the net!!!
When i opened gmaps i could see my avatar in the map.. So i understand that it was still online..
So.. I think I've solved!
Anyway we need a "netstat" on pocket pc...
Thank you for your advices.
Glad you worked it out.
I put this in the developers forum a while back. Maybe someone smarter than me will work out a solution to this sort of problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530634
As with the poster here. You will have an application that you have inadvertently set to autoupdate. The only thorough solution is to go through every program on your phone and check each setting meticulously. Alternatively. Back up your personal data and hard reset. Then reinstall your apps one by one, testing for an hour after each one. Eventually, you will find the offending app and can work on finding the setting in it to stop it connecting to the net.
Hi all,
the thing is there are dozen possibilities: activesync, alle gps-stuff, all auto-updates. So instead off looking up all these settings, you could also use the nodata.cab - works fine (phone need to be unlocked!)
greetz to all
Kjoere
thanks for all the posts, haven't checked for a while. I have checked everything and noting is set to auto update so very strange and annoying. Will try the nodata.cab - if I can find it?
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Anyway we need a "netstat" on pocket pc...
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Look at "TaskManager 3.1" that has a Netstat tab
Tom
download Modaco Nodata
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Look at "TaskManager 3.1" that has a Netstat tab
Tom
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Thank you! That is very interesting.
It also can be the build-in Facebook app in Contacts in manila. It has feature to automaticly update in 2 hours. At least, I had mine turned on as default.
The only reliable and "ultimate" solution is really Modaco NoData as mentioned above.
On the other hand not taking third party apps in count, basic traffic of HTC device is nothing to be scared of. Updates for weather, stocks and A-GPS are just few bytes in size... Obviously, GMaps, mail autocheck, Messenger etc. are different story, but none of these are started on their own... BTW, ActiveSync has nothing to do with Internet with one exception - Exchange mail sync, if you have any.
What you have to understand, is behaviour of the active data indicator (small G, E or H next to signal strength). If it's there does not mean, that any data are transferred at the moment. It just indicates opened data slot with current brodcasting tower in the cell. It could stay opened for hours after trasfer even just of few bytes. It closes usually only for two reasons - your phone switches to another cell (and has no reason to open data slot again) or the tower is busy and closes inactive slots to gain more capacity.
Except few rare cases in some coutries you're charged only for data transferred, not for time of the connection and therefore it doesn't matter. In Europe from 1st of July (some new EU limit) one Mb shouldn't cost more than 50 cents and with these basic updates you will NEVER reach it in one month...
Obviously, roaming is another story, but in settings of the standard services you can limit updates just for your country.
Okay I am really starting to regret this phone as its being a pain. I have an ATT tilt2 on Rogers and settings all work.
On my Kaiser when an app needed the Data it would turn it on and all would be good. Then after a certain amt of time of non use it would disconnect the data. Is there a setting that allows the phone to turn on the data when its needed? It seems that its either on or off.
This leads me to the second issue. About 5 times a day I get a message that the connection failed. I can then go to the settings and turn on the data connection and the internet will work again. I have never turned it off nor do I have any programs that restrict it.
Lastly, I have a bunch of factory connections that I can not use as I am not on ATT's service plus a few I created when I was first setting up the phone. I can delete some of them in connection manager how do I get rid of them permanantly?
It seems to me that there is way less user configuration in 6.5 than in 6.1 yet thanks to ATT its 3 times as large. Can anyone suggest a work around for the Data on demand issue?
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Okay I am really starting to regret this phone as its being a pain. I have an ATT tilt2 on Rogers and settings all work.
On my Kaiser when an app needed the Data it would turn it on and all would be good. Then after a certain amt of time of non use it would disconnect the data. Is there a setting that allows the phone to turn on the data when its needed? It seems that its either on or off.
This leads me to the second issue. About 5 times a day I get a message that the connection failed. I can then go to the settings and turn on the data connection and the internet will work again. I have never turned it off nor do I have any programs that restrict it.
Lastly, I have a bunch of factory connections that I can not use as I am not on ATT's service plus a few I created when I was first setting up the phone. I can delete some of them in connection manager how do I get rid of them permanantly?
It seems to me that there is way less user configuration in 6.5 than in 6.1 yet thanks to ATT its 3 times as large. Can anyone suggest a work around for the Data on demand issue?
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I use HD Tweak and it works fairly well. Because the hardware is a little different, not all of the settings translate, but the things that are common between both phones works fine. You can find the link on this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452505
Under section 6 (Data), there is a "Disconnect After", which I set for 2 minutes. Once the data is idle for 2 mins, it disconnects. The next time a program needs it again, the data connects again. Don't forget to soft reset after making changes.
Hope this helps
Okay got it working
Thanks its working now. I had installed that but there must have been somthing corrupt in my ROM as I was also unable to Harddpl it. I did two hard resets in a row, was able to flash then reistalled and now it seems to work fine.
Now if someone would make an app that uses different LED's for different notices similar to the Kaiser Notification app that was awsome.
Hi,
I suddenly developed an issue a few weeks ago where the data connection will, apparently randomly, turn itself on. I haven't ever been lucky enough to catch it right when the data comes on, and when I check task manager I don't see any applications running to cause it. I am thinking I either inherited a virus at some point, or an application that is attempting to update itself or something. But I haven't installed anything for months so it could be any old program. I checked scheduled tasks but don't see anything there.
I have done 'the usual' of making sure weather, stocks, email are not causing it.
What I am wondering is if there is an application out there that will log my activity so I can see what services or applications ran that day.
Many thanks in advance for any help or ideas.
Check to see if AGPS is on -- I've noticed with some GPS apps (CoPilot Live, Google Maps) that if AGPS is on, turning on the GPS will initiate a data connection. If that's the issue, turning AGPS off should take care of it.
Thanks for the AGPS suggestion. I do use QuickGPS, but have it set to prompt, not to auto download (but it does start a data connection when I do use it, and it doesn't turn it off when it's done). So, I don't think that's the problem in my case, but I appreciate the reply.
hi all, i have had a look through the forum but dont seem to be able to find anything. for some reason when i reboot my phone it comes back on then my mobile data will start up if i turn the mobile data off it will start an hour or so later have turned off as many of the auto updates that i can find. any sugestions or help would be much appreciated as its starting to bug me now. thank you
Auto updates shouldn't turn on mobile data, perhaps it's some kind of bad app/process/service that is starting it.
Try installing a firewall or a data monitor app in order to see which process demands data connection.
If this doesn't help a hard reset probably will.
If it happens that you never use mobile data (I don't) you can just erase your APN settings.
thanks for the reply whats a good data monitor app any suggestions ?
Try TrafficInfo
nice one will get this installed then see who is the culprit lol
hi ya 3722 i have traffic info installed and from what its saying its the dialer thats starting up my data conection this cant be right can it ? nothing comes up under user just a few things in system and the dialer is always at the top
Hm..
Go to settings>>wireless and networks>> scroll down and see if there is a tick on "mobile network", then tap on "mobile networks" at the bottom you'll see "enable always-on mobile data" turn it off if it isn't already.
As for the Dialer demanding connection, I don't know if TrafficInfo is showing it wrong or if it's really the case, anyway you can try clearing the dialer's data and cache.
lol its still the same m8, dont worry about it i'll put up with it untill i flash RCMixHD, thanks for your help its a strange one its baffled me
Yeah sorry for not being very helpful but I am running out of ideas, and yes flashing a new rom should fix this annoyance.
running out of ideas you and me both lol, ah well time to go flash again. thanks again m8.
Hi,
when my HOX is lying near by PC Speakers, i can hear Internet Traffic over EDGE/UMTS excatly all 3 Minutes. (I hope u can understand what i mean)
I´m wondering about that bescause WIFI is active and connected, and i never had this with my DHD.
Due to optimizing Battery life, i disable mobile Network manually when i´m at home and have WIFI connected.
I use ARHD 9.1.0 with stock Kernel and EQS + APM + %Batterycircle + Autobrighness by jotha.
Baseband: 2.1204.135.20
Build; 2.17.401.2 CL89015
Any Ideas whats generating this traffic and why the HOX don´t use WIFI for that?
its normal gsm traffic. like if somebody sent you an sms, you would hear that sound. not sure why it didn't do it with dhd and now does with hox, but either way, shielded speakers are there to solve that problem. as for adapting your current speakers to shield them, not sure if its possible or not though.
lawrence750 said:
its normal gsm traffic. like if somebody sent you an sms, you would hear that sound. not sure why it didn't do it with dhd and now does with hox, but either way, shielded speakers are there to solve that problem. as for adapting your current speakers to shield them, not sure if its possible or not though.
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Thanks for your Answer, but i don´t hear that Traffic if mobile Network is disabled, so i thinkt it can´t be "normal GSM Traffic".
oh i see what you mean..
might be network location services?
settings>location>google's location service.
i know the location services use wifi as well, but it might use mobile network in conjuction even if connected to wifi.. try disable that and see if it continues.
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oh i see what you mean..
might be network location services?
settings>location>google's location service.
i know the location services use wifi as well, but it might use mobile network in conjuction even if connected to wifi.. try disable that and see if it continues.
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Thanks again, tested, but unfortunately the traffic is still there
try download osmonitor, might be other apps more specific that can help, but osmonitor should do the trick i hope.
set your screen not to turn off, just for ease..
goto the connections tab, process tab will also be useful and watch it until the noise happens. you're looking for either a process, that jumps to the top of the list when the sound happens (spike in cpu usage), and then does it every time the sound happens, or a connection, that ISN'T your local or external wifi ip address, but also has similar behaviour, ie the connection is created when the sound occurs, and is then gone a minute later.. (the connection should show an app name)
if you find an app that looks like it could be causing it, then try to uninstall it temporarily to see if it fixes the issue. if it does fix the problem, the next step would be to contact the developer of that app to request a fix for it. it could however be a system process causing the problem.
failing the above, you could try the same sort of diagnostics, but with logcat instead. i don't actually know how to initiate logcat, i'm sure a google will tell you how though.
Thanks again! (i´ll hit the Button )
Okay, got that app installed.
Unfortunately the Sound DOES NOT appear all 3 Minutes when the Display is on.
When it starts and i unlock my screen i cant see any new entries in the Connectionstab.
Processes the same, but "Android System" shortly came on Top. (maybe the Display Unlock is the Reason for that?)
BTW: Why i got 2 permanent open Connections?
1. Google Bookmark-Sync (Whois -> Google)
2. Downloadmanager (Whois -> "The New York Internet Company")
Not idea what that could be.
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Thanks again! (i´ll hit the Button )
Okay, got that app installed.
Unfortunately the Sound DOES NOT appear all 3 Minutes when the Display is on.
When it starts and i unlock my screen i cant see any new entries in the Connectionstab.
Processes the same, but "Android System" shortly came on Top. (maybe the Display Unlock is the Reason for that?)
BTW: Why i got 2 permanent open Connections?
1. Google Bookmark-Sync (Whois -> Google)
2. Downloadmanager (Whois -> "The New York Internet Company")
Not idea what that could be.
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you should be able to set the display to never turn off in settings>display and gestures
i don't think it'll be very easy if even possible to find it if the screens off (the spike would only be there for a second or 2, by the time it's unlocked etc it will have disappeared)
the other connections, first one is probably the google account sync, and not sure about download manager, maybe something got stuck, you could try clearing data for the download app, but to be honest i doubt that they're any problem anyway so probably nothing to worry about
edit: the download manager bit judging by the whois could be an app relating to that? do you have anything similarly named installed?
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you should be able to set the display to never turn off in settings>display and gestures
i don't think it'll be very easy if even possible to find it if the screens off (the spike would only be there for a second or 2, by the time it's unlocked etc it will have disappeared)
the other connections, first one is probably the google account sync, and not sure about download manager, maybe something got stuck, you could try clearing data for the download app, but to be honest i doubt that they're any problem anyway so probably nothing to worry about
edit: the download manager bit judging by the whois could be an app relating to that? do you have anything similarly named installed?
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This is crazy - when the screen is on, the sound isnt audible. It only happens when the screen is off.
In the Connections Tab is only one Connection without my WiFi-IP, and whois shows me its a DNS Server from my Carrier (vodafone).
In the Process Tab i can see that "System" comes up on Top for ca 2 seconds, further no action.
The 2 Connections which stays established:
Clearing the Donwloadmanager Data was a Success... Thanx again.
The Connection to Google from "Google Bookmark-Sync" is still there. Gmail Sync is deactivated in accounts.
I think i´ll give it up and live with it