Ca1ne's Classic SBC Kernel and Smurfed Out - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was trying to post to Ca1ne's thread and kept getting that stupid bulletin about not having permission...
I couldn't find an answer to my questions anywhere and since I am a semi-noob at Android Dev I don't know if there will be any conflicts. Better safe than sorry is my thinking. My ROM is stock, Sense, S-On, rooted with RA Recovery. I have already flashed Ca1ne's Classic Kernel.
Question 1:
Can I use the SmurfedOut Script with Ca1ne's Classic Kernel?
Question 2:
After flashing Ca1ne's Classic Kernel can I flash his UnderWorld Kernel on top of it?
Part2: If I can flash Underworld Kernel on top of Ca1ne's Classic Kernel can I used SmurfedOut on that as well?
TIA to anyone who answers!

Yes,yes,and yes. Just remember to wipe ur caches before u flash the kernels
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FYI - you has permission issues posting to the Dev's thread because you arent allowed to post there until you have 10 posts in the QA section. Probably so people cant sign up, spam the Dev's and then disappear.

Yea if you meant to keep both kernels, then no. Only one will stay, which is the one you last flashed. You can flash smurfed out also.

[RESOLVED] Ca1ne's Classic SBC Kernel and Smurfed Out
Well that was quickly resolved. I've already pressed the thank button to everyone because everything was important info. I love XDA!

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[Q] Kernels?

Ok... can someone please tell me what HAVS, CFS and SVS means?
HAVS - no idea
CFS - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Completely_Fair_Scheduler
SVS - no idea
lol... i guess google is my friend
HAVS (Hybrid Adaptive Voltage Scaling) What this does is provide SUPERIOR BATTERY
Really? Anyone else use these kernels? Whats the risk, is it risky like flashing a Radio?
KevAmiga said:
lol... i guess google is my friend
HAVS (Hybrid Adaptive Voltage Scaling) What this does is provide SUPERIOR BATTERY
Really? Anyone else use these kernels? Whats the risk, is it risky like flashing a Radio?
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No, only thing is some undervolted kennels might not be stable so always nandroid before changing kernel.
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Brill - I have some Nandroid backups, so if anything goes wrong the recovery will still work, and I can restore... excellent. Thought so
AOSP Kernel for SENSE ROM?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=FAQ#Kernel
here's a link with "all" neccesary informations
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i would like to add a new question in this thread:
is it possible to use an AOSP Kernel like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893484
with my SENSE-ROM ? (currently using ReflexTSense http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791315 )
thx
No, at least I know that way. You have to use a Sense kernel with a sense ROM, like this to run without problems.
so there's no option to use newer Kernels with Sense-ROM's ..
thx for the information
Sorry to break into your thread, but does it work the other way round? I mean, is it possible to use a Sense kernel with an AOSP rom?
sense with asop and the other way
i tride som ASOP Kernel with my SensHD Rom and it worked "booting
i found a flickerning screen but it worked; i refalashed a sense kernel
i think that the other "Way" should also work with some "issues"
greetings..
ps: i somewhere on thos forum found a discussion between two ROM-Programmers about using ASOP Kernel in Sense roms.
As far as i remember they both found the conclusion that sense-kernel are using differetn Graphicdrivers so that a asop kernel never will run "full" with a sense-rom but the ASOP Kernel COULD be modded in "future"

[REQ] SBC on Stock 2.3.3 Kernal

I hope I don't get flamed for asking. We all know that the stock Kernal is stable and seems to be working for every ROM. Can someone with more knowledge than I have append SBC code to the stock kernal so we can get some SBC lovin?
I believe they're working on it because the official kernel source just got released.
I think a lot of the work is being done to enhance the kernal by adding in UV, CPU governors, OC, etc, first which is pretty awesome, but I guess I'm just looking for SBC+ stock kernal.
Requests are not development. They belong in the Q&A forum. Thread closed.

[Q] Noob Question lol

What is a kernal and what does it do? Is it any different than a ROM? And how do you flash/install a kernal. I've flashed a few roms on the past few phones but I still have no idea what a kernal does.....any help appriciated..
You install a kernal simply by wiping caches,(cache and dalvik cache). Custom kernals allow you to do things a stock kernal wouldnt allow. There are some great developers of kernals here on XDA. You really just need to Search the forums for all of your answers, even google it. Once you do learn what a kernal is,you will be able to enjoy the full, or almost full, potential of your phone. Good luck!!
In a nutshell a kernel is the "heart" of the OS. It's really simple to flash. You start by making a nandroid that way if something goes wrong you have a backup, then wipe cache/dalvik 2x each, after that you can flash the kernel. It's a rinse and repeat process.
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Quick question. I see that they are labeled like [sense] and [AOSP]. If I'm running MUIU as my rom right now, would I use an AOSP Kernel or does that matter.
iHusk said:
Quick question. I see that they are labeled like [sense] and [AOSP]. If I'm running MUIU as my rom right now, would I use an AOSP Kernel or does that matter.
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Definitely matters. You need an AOSP kernel like Tiamat or Savaged Zen. I had good luck with Tiamat, but I'm running the stock kernel at the moment.
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iHusk said:
Quick question. I see that they are labeled like [sense] and [AOSP]. If I'm running MUIU as my rom right now, would I use an AOSP Kernel or does that matter.
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It wouldn't be a good idea to you a Sense kernel on anything besides a Sense ROM, or you will get a boot failure. I believe that MIUI use AOSP kernels.

What is a kernal

I am running the mik ROM 3.0 and I am not sure what a custom kernal is or how to flash a kernal is it the same as a rom?? How do I apply a kernal while using my ROM?? I have searched the forums and couldn't find an answer plz help me out thanx
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reaper559 said:
I am running the mik ROM 3.0 and I am not sure what a custom kernal is or how to flash a kernal is it the same as a rom?? How do I apply a kernal while using my ROM?? I have searched the forums and couldn't find an answer plz help me out thanx
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A custom kernel lets you overclock and under clock. So you can actually choose what speed you want your phone to run. First download the kernel put it on the root of your sdcard (not in any folders) go to recovery wipe cache and dalvik cache then flash kernel then reboot
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The kernel controls certain hardware functions such as process scheduling, CPU clock speeds and voltages, frames per second, battery charge/discharge behaviors, etc. The best possible "layman's" analogy that I can think of is that a kernel is similar to hardware drivers that you install onto a computer. The drivers tell your system how to use whatever hardware components you've got installed.
There are a few rules with kernels though. You can't just download any kernel, flash it, and go on your way.
1. Sense kernels ONLY work with Sense ROMs. AOSP kernels ONLY work with AOSP ROMs.
2. Don't use a HAVS kernel if you're using setcpu.
3. Don't bother flashing a kernel if you don't know what a kernel is or are incapable of reading the sticky, at the top of this forum, whose sole purpose is to explain everything about kernels. Because chances are you're just going to screw up your phone.
Threads about kernels are one of the most common questions on this site, next to battery life issues and ROM preferences. Use the search feature. I guarantee there are a million threads that have already answered your question. If all else fails.....Google.
Edit: kernels do more than just letting you overclock your cpu like evo4gnoob said. If you don't know what a kernel is then you probably shouldn't be overclocking your phone anyway. And no, overclocking your Evolution is not like overclocking your computer. Again, you're likely to damage your phone if you just go and start tinkering without a clue as to what you're actually doing.

[Q] RenovatePLUS rom help! + kernel/etc questions

Hi guys I have just flashed this ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705334) however it is not the renovatePLUS version, how do I flash with the PLUS version, need it since it has mods and tweaks which I will need, auto-inverted rotating screen is driving me nuts!
FYI: I downloaded the plus zip but I dont know what to do with it, do I just extract into my phone? Because that did not work.
Also, I saw this guy, username(csec) with this signature (Phone: Renovated Endeavoru, F4, XM-Kernel #296 (Most fantastic combo in my entire experience with HOX)). I want to use have those thing stated, already have Renovate(will flash PLUS once I know how), and there is F4, anyone knows what that is? and finally XM-Kernel #296, which I believe is this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136731), can anyone please confirm is that is a similar one that I can use? Sorry for asking so many question, I finally decided to go deeper with flashing kernels and stuff and I require some professional advice, so please help! Thank you!
SwtVengeance said:
Hi guys I have just flashed this ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705334) however it is not the renovatePLUS version, how do I flash with the PLUS version, need it since it has mods and tweaks which I will need, auto-inverted rotating screen is driving me nuts!
FYI: I downloaded the plus zip but I dont know what to do with it, do I just extract into my phone? Because that did not work.
Also, I saw this guy, username(csec) with this signature (Phone: Renovated Endeavoru, F4, XM-Kernel #296 (Most fantastic combo in my entire experience with HOX)). I want to use have those thing stated, already have Renovate(will flash PLUS once I know how), and there is F4, anyone knows what that is? and finally XM-Kernel #296, which I believe is this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136731), can anyone please confirm is that is a similar one that I can use? Sorry for asking so many question, I finally decided to go deeper with flashing kernels and stuff and I require some professional advice, so please help! Thank you!
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if u read the thread it will answer all ur Questions
flash the Renovate Plus through recovery <<< in the rom thread
if u want a banner with renovate check its thread
F4 stands for final 4
my advice gain some experience before flashing kernels u may brick ur device!
if u dont know what u are doing
Thanks!
The5alodi said:
flash the Renovate Plus through recovery <<< in the rom thread
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It doesnt seem to state on that thread that I have to do it through recovery. But thanks anyway!
For kernels I have one more question. Can I just use the kernel as provided? Of course checking that it is meant for my device 1st. Because there seems to be this confusing thing called repacking...
SwtVengeance said:
It doesnt seem to state on that thread that I have to do it through recovery. But thanks anyway!
For kernels I have one more question. Can I just use the kernel as provided? Of course checking that it is meant for my device 1st. Because there seems to be this confusing thing called repacking...
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I RUINED my device before with kernels i didn't know how to use them and obviously i bricked my device so please dont try anything unless u gain experience
Repacking is like making peanut and jam sandwich its like making the kernel work with ur rom if u are using renovate u dont need to repack for XM kernels
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If there are no Ramdisc tweaks in the ROM, you don't need to repack the kernel... Mostly kernel repacking isn't needed for Sense roms... So you just have to flash the boot.img from the kernel's zip and then flash the modules from recovery...
AOSP/AOKP Roms need kernel repack each and every time before flashing!
vin4yak said:
If there are no Ramdisc tweaks in the ROM, you don't need to repack the kernel... Mostly kernel repacking isn't needed for Sense roms... So you just have to flash the boot.img from the kernel's zip and then flash the modules from recovery...
AOSP/AOKP Roms need kernel repack each and every time before flashing!
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Sense roms these days are a lot so i suggest repacking as it will not do any harm!
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Help once more!
Hi, so after researching a little bit more, I decided change my kernel to the XM kernel(original non-repacked), tried it for a few days, noticed that it response quite slowly compared to default kernel, things like slow display of lock screen upon power on, less smooth transition when. Could I have done it wrongly? Other than the slow response everything else seems fine, I noticed one of the features is S2W, I tried that on my buttons and it worked, however fast charge usb and usb mass storage isnt working, is there somewhere I can enable it or do you have an idea where I can find a guide for XM kernels that describes its features and functionality? Sorry for asking so many questions, thank you!
You have rather detailed instruction how to deal with fast charge and USB mass storage in XMister's thread (first one or two posts).
I suggest you install some of the kernel manageent applications:
- trickster MOD
- Set CPU
... There are many. Choose one that fits you (I am personally using Trickster).
There you will be able to play with your governors and scheduler, and thus achieve better performance or battery life. Or both. Check Q&A, there are few very educative threads about it.
You seem to be on a good way. Keep reading.
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