I have had my Kindle Fire for over a year and I have used various ROMs. Most recently, I was using the HellFire ROM and it crashed out on me. I decided to go back to stock for a while but noticed a new version of FFF (v1.4a) so decided to install that. Now, it boots to the FFF screen but nothing else. I cannot enter the boot menu. My computer does not recognize the device (no sound from the computer recognizing that it was plugged in) with either a regular or factory USB cable (I've used the factory cable before to unbrick the device).
I have read through the other posts regarding similar problems but all of those posts were resolved with either a driver problem or with a factory cable. None of the utilities or terminal commands are useful since the device is not recognized.
I have let the battery completely drain (letting it sit in a drawer while I take a break from the problem). It does recharge with the factory charger, but one thing of note is that the LED stays green during the charge. It never turns amber either on the charger or when it is connected to the computer.
Anyone have any ideas? I've been scratching my head lots over this. Many thanks for anyone willing to scratch along with me.
So have you tried Soupkit? How did you flash your bootloader?
Thepooch said:
So have you tried Soupkit? How did you flash your bootloader?
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First of all, thanks for replying and trying to help. I have tried SoupKit and the Macintosh utilities but I keep getting the same response "Your device appears to be offline."
I originally rooted the kindle by manually entering adb commands. I installed the bootloader with KFU.
Is the bootloader splash static or does it blink on and off? Are you able to accces the boot menu to reset bootmode or enter recovery or select normal boot?
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Is the bootloader splash static or does it blink on and off? Are you able to accces the boot menu to reset bootmode or enter recovery or select normal boot?
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The bootloader splash is static. I am unable to access the boot menu at all.
I have been playing with the "short the point" install TWRP over USB but to no avail. I get "waiting for OMAP44xx device" and that's all.
Hi there,
All was going well with my Fire HD 8.9, I rooted it, had the 2nd bootloader installed and was trying to install CM 11 before I got an error message saying that the jem version was the one I needed. I couldn't get my computer to recognise the the Kindle whilst in TWRP, so thought that I'd have to restore from the backup I made (of the stock Kindle OS and settings) to be able to transfer the version of CM that I needed. The backup seemed to work, but it hasn't in fact.
I turn on the Kindle and it gets stuck at the very first image of the logo, with NO animation
I'm unable to get back into TWRP
I can turn the kindle on and off but that's it
I can't use any recovery programs because my PC doesn't recognise the Kindle
I uninstalled and reinstalled the adb drivers, but when I connect the Kindle, my PC plays the 'Device Connected' then 'Device disconnected' sounds in quick succession, making the installation of any drivers fail
It's as though there's a brief second or two when USB works on the Kindle in terms of my PC knowing something is there, but then the USB disconnect noise plays
I only got it a day ago (managed to mess it up very quickly somehow!), so I could always try returning it if needs be, but hopefully that won't be necessary. Any ideas? Thanks in advance
EDIT - I can get the device to come up with fastboot mode and then the computer recognises it as an Adb device, but don't know where to go from there.
I would try to fix it from recovery if possible, it is way easier than having to do the process over again. You do know how to get it back into recovery right? Hold down volume up right after you power it on, just keep holding it even after kindle logo turns blue until you see the twrp logo. If that doesn't work, I would use kindle fire first aid to restore it and start over, but if you can get it into recovery then you can simply push a ROM onto it via adb.
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stunts513 said:
I would try to fix it from recovery if possible, it is way easier than having to do the process over again. You do know how to get it back into recovery right? Hold down volume up right after you power it on, just keep holding it even after kindle logo turns blue until you see the twrp logo. If that doesn't work, I would use kindle fire first aid to restore it and start over, but if you can get it into recovery then you can simply push a ROM onto it via adb.
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Thanks for the reply. I actually managed to fix it in the end by using the fast boot command and then connecting the Kindle, then using the SR tool to erase user data and cache, before flashing the boot and recovery imgs (just saying in case anyone googles and this comes up and it might help).
Background: Kindle Fire 1st generation. Stuck on "kindle fire" logo screen. This is a stock KF -- never any previous attempts to root it.
KFU is unable to connect to the device -- or get it into fastboot. I purchased a factory cable, and that also was not successful. (BTW, I have a different KF 1st gen that works fine, and KFU recognizes it and can fastboot perfectly fine with that one).
I also attempted using the Firekit utility on a Debian Linux system. The tool seems to have the same issue -- gives me a "error: device not found" message when trying to set bootmode.
The "Post #1" HOW-TO by kinfauns talks about the bad bootloader scenario, and it mentions opening the case to short a circuit in order to enable USB boot. Can someone please point me to a link regarding this shorting technique? I think that is my next step.
Thanks,
lob455
lob455 said:
Background: Kindle Fire 1st generation. Stuck on "kindle fire" logo screen. This is a stock KF -- never any previous attempts to root it.
KFU is unable to connect to the device -- or get it into fastboot. I purchased a factory cable, and that also was not successful. (BTW, I have a different KF 1st gen that works fine, and KFU recognizes it and can fastboot perfectly fine with that one).
I also attempted using the Firekit utility on a Debian Linux system. The tool seems to have the same issue -- gives me a "error: device not found" message when trying to set bootmode.
The "Post #1" HOW-TO by kinfauns talks about the bad bootloader scenario, and it mentions opening the case to short a circuit in order to enable USB boot. Can someone please point me to a link regarding this shorting technique? I think that is my next step.
Thanks,
lob455
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Does it show up in Device manager? as kindle, android phone, or something else...?
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Does it show up in Device manager? as kindle, android phone, or something else...?
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No. When connected to the Windows7 machine, the bootloop-stuck KF is not recognized at all (regardless of whether using the standard USB cable or the factory cable).
On the working KF which was purchased from Amazon at the same time, Device Manager shows this working KF as "Android phone".
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No. When connected to the Windows7 machine, the bootloop-stuck KF is not recognized at all (regardless of whether using the standard USB cable or the factory cable).
On the working KF which was purchased from Amazon at the same time, Device Manager shows this working KF as "Android phone".
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Fairly certain your battery is dead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623244 . If so you can shock it`s inards and hook up fastboot cable all day long and it wont make a bit of difference till you get a new battery.
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Fairly certain your battery is dead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623244 . If so you can shock it`s inards and hook up fastboot cable all day long and it wont make a bit of difference till you get a new battery.
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Thanks to Thepooch. Progress has been made. I was admittedly very skeptical about the dead battery theory. This Kindle Fire had been connected to a charger for literally days if not weeks. But I grabbed my wife's 2A charger and connected it.
Okay. Here is where the weird part starts.....
After several hours on the 2A charger, I hit the power button and got a TWRP Recovery screen! I was astounded. When using KFU, I have always gotten "ADB Status: Offline" and "Boot Status: Unknown" with this unit. I still do. But I have certainly tried the KFU selections of "Install Latest TWRP Recovery" and "Install Latest FireFireFire". Even though the utility returns messages that imply it was not successful (typically "< waiting for device >"), the only thing I can figure is that it was successful at least once. Even today when I run KFU, it still behaves as though it does not recognize the unit. Also, Device Manager still does not see the Kindle Fire.
So, now I have a Kindle Fire that seems to have good TWRP Recovery and FFF (I get the white & blue Kindle Fire logo now when booting). And this is a good thing, and a major step past the infinine white and orange Kindle Fire logo boot screen.
However, since I can't apparently connect to the unit via USB, I can't put a ROM on it to install. This is where I am stuck now.
Please let me know if you have any recommendations.
Thanks again.
lob455 said:
Thanks to Thepooch. Progress has been made. I was admittedly very skeptical about the dead battery theory. This Kindle Fire had been connected to a charger for literally days if not weeks. But I grabbed my wife's 2A charger and connected it.
Okay. Here is where the weird part starts.....
After several hours on the 2A charger, I hit the power button and got a TWRP Recovery screen! I was astounded. When using KFU, I have always gotten "ADB Status: Offline" and "Boot Status: Unknown" with this unit. I still do. But I have certainly tried the KFU selections of "Install Latest TWRP Recovery" and "Install Latest FireFireFire". Even though the utility returns messages that imply it was not successful (typically "< waiting for device >"), the only thing I can figure is that it was successful at least once. Even today when I run KFU, it still behaves as though it does not recognize the unit. Also, Device Manager still does not see the Kindle Fire.
So, now I have a Kindle Fire that seems to have good TWRP Recovery and FFF (I get the white & blue Kindle Fire logo now when booting). And this is a good thing, and a major step past the infinine white and orange Kindle Fire logo boot screen.
However, since I can't apparently connect to the unit via USB, I can't put a ROM on it to install. This is where I am stuck now.
Please let me know if you have any recommendations.
Thanks again.
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First you must fix your driver. Unless it shows up in device manager as android composite adb interface. I still have question of it's proper installation since mounting sdcard is connected to a proper install.
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adb push rom.zip/sdcard/
shift plus right click on kfu's tool folder select open command window here. Type
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adb devices
you should get a number string code 1234××××××××× device if it says offline then driver is not proper. If it says 1234×××××××××× device then your good.
Type adb push <---leave one space here drag and drop the file you wish to push into terminal , then one more space , /sdcard/ it takes some time depending on file size. When it's done it will show records in and records out along with the time that the push took. If successful make a backup and then wipe cache, dalvik, and system. Flash rom.zip/gapps.zip reboot system. There is a catch 22 is the recovery packaged with KFU new enough to flash newer ROMs with full s-Linux support follow the steps in my guide highlighted in my signature to at least flash rooted stock before proceeding. @sd_shadow 's Rom would be perfect for first flash.
Edit: Side note modifications need to be made to driver to keep adb working on custom ROMs as some have been added prior this helps but the device ID changes with each new build ics, kit kat and so forth.
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First you must fix your driver. Unless it shows up in device manager as android composite adb interface. I still have question of it's proper installation since mounting sdcard is connected to a proper install.
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adb push rom.zip/sdcard/
shift plus right click on kfu's tool folder select open command window here. Type
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adb devices
you should get a number string code 1234××××××××× device if it says offline then driver is not proper. If it says 1234×××××××××× device then your good.
Type adb push <---leave one space here drag and drop the file you wish to push into terminal , then one more space , /sdcard/ it takes some time depending on file size. When it's done it will show records in and records out along with the time that the push took. If successful make a backup and then wipe cache, dalvik, and system. Flash rom.zip/gapps.zip reboot system. There is a catch 22 is the recovery packaged with KFU new enough to flash newer ROMs with full s-Linux support follow the steps in my guide highlighted in my signature to at least flash rooted stock before proceeding. @sd_shadow 's Rom would be perfect for first flash.
Edit: Side note modifications need to be made to driver to keep adb working on custom ROMs as some have been added prior this helps but the device ID changes with each new build ics, kit kat and so forth.
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Thanks @Thepooch for the detailed reply.
I spent several hours playing with this Kindle Fire, a different Kindle Fire (stock unit that works), regular USB and factory cables, kfu, and adb. Here are my observations that may or may not be significant:
1) With the working stock Kindle Fire: this shows up in Device Manager as Android Phone > Android Composite ADB Interface. In KFU, this working Kindle Fire shows ADB Status: Online and Boot Status: Unknown. If I run the "adb devices" comand, it happily gives me a 17BExxxxxxxxxxxx response.
2) With the non-working Kindle Fire that I am working with: This does not show up in Device Manager UNLESS I am in the FFF (white & blue logo screen) with the 3 boot choices listed at the bottom of the screen (Normal Boot, Recovery, Reset Boot Mode). If those 3 choices are shown, then Device Manager recognizes this as Android Phone > Android ADB Interface (it does not say "Composite" -- no matter how hard I try to delete that Android ADB Interface driver). This non-working Kindle Fire then disappears from Device Manager completely if in any TWRP screen or any FFF screen other than the one with the 3 boot choices at the bottom. When I run the "adb devices" command, I get a message "List of devices attached" with nothing below (no numbers or anything).
I suspect that you are correct -- that I am fighting a driver issue -- but I don't know how to get the Windows 7 computer to recognize the non-working Kindle Fire as a Android Composite ADB Interface. It happily recognizes the working Kindle Fire as Composite, so I know the driver is on the PC.
Any ideas of how to go forward are appreciated. I think that I have tried everything that I know to try on that Windows 7 PC, so at this point, my next plan is to play with this Kindle Fire using the FireKit tools and a Debian Linux PC. Maybe that will help -- or at least I will learn something.
lob455 said:
Thanks @Thepooch for the detailed reply.
I spent several hours playing with this Kindle Fire, a different Kindle Fire (stock unit that works), regular USB and factory cables, kfu, and adb. Here are my observations that may or may not be significant:
1) With the working stock Kindle Fire: this shows up in Device Manager as Android Phone > Android Composite ADB Interface. In KFU, this working Kindle Fire shows ADB Status: Online and Boot Status: Unknown. If I run the "adb devices" comand, it happily gives me a 17BExxxxxxxxxxxx response.
2) With the non-working Kindle Fire that I am working with: This does not show up in Device Manager UNLESS I am in the FFF (white & blue logo screen) with the 3 boot choices listed at the bottom of the screen (Normal Boot, Recovery, Reset Boot Mode). If those 3 choices are shown, then Device Manager recognizes this as Android Phone > Android ADB Interface (it does not say "Composite" -- no matter how hard I try to delete that Android ADB Interface driver). This non-working Kindle Fire then disappears from Device Manager completely if in any TWRP screen or any FFF screen other than the one with the 3 boot choices at the bottom. When I run the "adb devices" command, I get a message "List of devices attached" with nothing below (no numbers or anything).
I suspect that you are correct -- that I am fighting a driver issue -- but I don't know how to get the Windows 7 computer to recognize the non-working Kindle Fire as a Android Composite ADB Interface. It happily recognizes the working Kindle Fire as Composite, so I know the driver is on the PC.
Any ideas of how to go forward are appreciated. I think that I have tried everything that I know to try on that Windows 7 PC, so at this point, my next plan is to play with this Kindle Fire using the FireKit tools and a Debian Linux PC. Maybe that will help -- or at least I will learn something.
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Android adb interface alone is a detection of fastboot composite is normal boot. This could be due to a partially broken shell try while the device is in recovery not at the bootloader your bootmode is iffy.
What is current Twrp versiom? 2.7.1.0?
If the problem is Kindle software, a could try a couple of things
adb commands should not work in bootloader mode
fastboot commands should work in bootloader mode
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fastboot devices
if that works could try flashing twrp, I would Flash a different version so you know it worked, like 2.6.x.x http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/blaze
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What is current Twrp versiom? 2.7.1.0?
If the problem is Kindle software, a could try a couple of things
adb commands should not work in bootloader mode
fastboot commands should work in bootloader mode
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fastboot devices
if that works could try flashing twrp, I would Flash a different version so you know it worked, like 2.6.x.x ..................
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Thanks @sd_shadow for the reply.
In recovery mode, TWRP reports that it is version 2.6.3.1
I did try the "fastboot devices" command. When I am in the initial FFF screen (blue & white kindle fire logo with "Press power button for boot menu") or I am in the FFF menu with the 3 boot choices at the bottom (Normal Boot, Recovery, Reset Boot Mode), the "fastboot devices" command returns "0123456789ABCDEF fastboot". I didn't make up that number. It reports the hexadecimal digits in order from 0 through F, followed by the word "fastboot". It is pretty apparent that this is not a valid device ID number, but it is reporting something. I just don't know what it means.
If I am in any screen other than those, the "fastboot devices" command returns nothing, and it goes back at the command prompt.
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Thanks @sd_shadow for the reply.
In recovery mode, TWRP reports that it is version 2.6.3.1
I did try the "fastboot devices" command. When I am in the initial FFF screen (blue & white kindle fire logo with "Press power button for boot menu") or I am in the FFF menu with the 3 boot choices at the bottom (Normal Boot, Recovery, Reset Boot Mode), the "fastboot devices" command returns "0123456789ABCDEF fastboot". I didn't make up that number. It reports the hexadecimal digits in order from 0 through F, followed by the word "fastboot". It is pretty apparent that this is not a valid device ID number, but it is reporting something. I just don't know what it means.
If I am in any screen other than those, the "fastboot devices" command returns nothing, and it goes back at the command prompt.
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I press the power button, to show boot menu (Normal Boot, Recovery, Reset Boot Mode) so it will pause the boot process for 2 mins or so.
the "0123456789ABCDEF fastboot" could be good, I believe that is what i usually get, and would go ahead and flash twrp.
fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.1-otter.img (or whatever version you are trying)
or try the reboot command
fastboot reboot
When in recovery if there is no adb my first thought is driver. Two other things are possible missing or broken shell or broken recovery. I myself lean to the side of it being a driver issue. Attach your working Kindle to pc while in recovery. Type adb devices it should say 12345678 blah blah recovery. If it does not then it's your driver.
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I press the power button, to show boot menu (Normal Boot, Recovery, Reset Boot Mode) so it will pause the boot process for 2 mins or so.
the "0123456789ABCDEF fastboot" could be good, I believe that is what i usually get, and would go ahead and flash twrp.
fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.1-otter.img (or whatever version you are trying)
or try the reboot command
fastboot reboot
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@sd_shadow -- the "fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-...." command worked, and TWRP now reports that it is running version 2.7.1.0 (it was 2.6.3.1). It was immensely satisfying to find a command that this Kindle seems to like. Seriously. Thank you.
My next stupid question is, can I use another fastboot command to program the ROM, or can I use some fastboot command to load the ROM on sdcard via USB and then install it with TWRP? If I can do either of those things, then I think this problem is licked.
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@sd_shadow -- the "fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-...." command worked, and TWRP now reports that it is running version 2.7.1.0 (it was 2.6.3.1). It was immensely satisfying to find a command that this Kindle seems to like. Seriously. Thank you.
My next stupid question is, can I use another fastboot command to program the ROM, or can I use some fastboot command to load the ROM on sdcard via USB and then install it with TWRP? If I can do either of those things, then I think this problem is licked.
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Just place a Rom on your Sdcard and flash it.
lob455 said:
@sd_shadow -- the "fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-...." command worked, and TWRP now reports that it is running version 2.7.1.0 (it was 2.6.3.1). It was immensely satisfying to find a command that this Kindle seems to like. Seriously. Thank you.
My next stupid question is, can I use another fastboot command to program the ROM, or can I use some fastboot command to load the ROM on sdcard via USB and then install it with TWRP? If I can do either of those things, then I think this problem is licked.
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Try the mount option in twrp again
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Try the mount option in twrp again
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Thanks both of you for your help. But not all stories have a happy ending.
Over the past couple of days, I have been fighting a battle with the battery. The battery charge level indicated in the main TWRP menu would decrease even when connected to the 2A charger. I found that I could temporarily add a few percent charge by disconnecting the USB cable, reconnecting to the 2A charger. However, that trick would only last for a few minutes and a few percent charge, and then the power button light would go out and discharge would start again.
I think that the battery is now pretty dead. Power button light stays off event with the charger connected. If I disconnect the USB cable and reconnect, then I can *occasionally* get the power light to go green then orange, and it will fire up into a FFF blue&white logo screen, but then it shuts off again.
At this point, I think I have to decide if I want to spend the $ for a replacement battery and then try to fight the rooting battle again. I was never able to get the PC to recognize the device in normal mode so no adb -- only fastboot would work.
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Thanks both of you for your help. But not all stories have a happy ending.
Over the past couple of days, I have been fighting a battle with the battery. The battery charge level indicated in the main TWRP menu would decrease even when connected to the 2A charger. I found that I could temporarily add a few percent charge by disconnecting the USB cable, reconnecting to the 2A charger. However, that trick would only last for a few minutes and a few percent charge, and then the power button light would go out and discharge would start again.
I think that the battery is now pretty dead. Power button light stays off event with the charger connected. If I disconnect the USB cable and reconnect, then I can *occasionally* get the power light to go green then orange, and it will fire up into a FFF blue&white logo screen, but then it shuts off again.
At this point, I think I have to decide if I want to spend the $ for a replacement battery and then try to fight the rooting battle again. I was never able to get the PC to recognize the device in normal mode so no adb -- only fastboot would work.
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The battery will always charge in recovery. When it goes flat you end in a 5 second boot loop. Try 2 things since your bootloader is equipped to hand such things as a failsafe attach to pc via USB right when it powers on long press power button till it powers off and let sit for 24 hours. The low level charge might even kick in and indicate charging on the screen if so let it sit and it will eventually boot properly on its own. Good luck
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@sd_shadow @Thepooch
Thanks both of you for your help. But not all stories have a happy ending.
Over the past couple of days, I have been fighting a battle with the battery. The battery charge level indicated in the main TWRP menu would decrease even when connected to the 2A charger. I found that I could temporarily add a few percent charge by disconnecting the USB cable, reconnecting to the 2A charger. However, that trick would only last for a few minutes and a few percent charge, and then the power button light would go out and discharge would start again.
I think that the battery is now pretty dead. Power button light stays off event with the charger connected. If I disconnect the USB cable and reconnect, then I can *occasionally* get the power light to go green then orange, and it will fire up into a FFF blue&white logo screen, but then it shuts off again.
At this point, I think I have to decide if I want to spend the $ for a replacement battery and then try to fight the rooting battle again. I was never able to get the PC to recognize the device in normal mode so no adb -- only fastboot would work.
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I suspect it's the usb port that is bad, not the battery. The Kindle's usb port is weak and has a high failure rate, it can be repaired but likely not worth it, unless you know how to solder connections.