[Q] Clarification of Using Roms and version updates - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

I have a few questions about flashing ROMS on my E4GT.
I've read a little about the different ROMS and I'm not sure which one to choose. I think Codename ICS is the right one for me but I need help with that. What I'm looking for:
Faster and more stable
Customization such as battery percent instead of the battery
Working WiFi and 4G
"Bloatware" doesn't really matter to me...can any of the apps be installed if I decide I want them?
Will I need to flash a new ROM when there's a Jelly Bean update or will there be an upgrade option?

Number 1 can not be accurately be answered.
Number 2 is in Samsung's stock ICS as well as CyanogenMod9 and I would assume AOKP. Many custom gingerbread roms had it.
Number 3.... usually not an issue
Number 4 custom roms, aosp roms all usually very stripped. If your not on AOSP then most touchwiz stuff can be put back on a custom touchwiz rom. Some include a removed apps folder.
Flashing a rom, broad term. All updates are "rom flashes" minor updates will replace some files major updates can do a whole lot more including pushing new bootloaders.
Jelly Bean update? I laugh very hard and then return to the ways you will get jelly bean. Flash a ported rom of Jelly Bean, CM10 when it comes out, AOKP when it goes Jelly Bean. Maybe someone will waste the time to port a GS3 jelly bean rom?

From what I can tell, there are no "official" CyanogenMod ROMs that work well on the E4GT. CM7 has issues with 4G. I can't remember where I read that. I believe it was a fairly recent post.
To clarify my question about upgrading, are there ways of simply upgrading from GB to ICS the way we do with the OTAs from the carriers? Could one just upgrade from CM7 to CM9 to CM10 without flashing it fresh?

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s Beam on roms

was wondering if there was a way to install the s beam app for the gs3 rooted running a stock rom. i'm running aopk jelly bean and wanted to have the s beam feature. any ideas what to do?
If you want the stock Samsung apps like S Beam just Odin back to stock. From there root through Odin and as long as you don't flash any apps or anything you'll have a stock rooted ROM with all the S apps.
closest thing to s-beam right now afaik is the regular android beam. s-beam probably won't work on cm/aokp roms as it may be baked into samsungs framework. but then again maybe i'm wrong.
Ok now I'm thoroughly confused by the OP. He first asks if it's possible to have the S apps on a stock rooted ROM. Then it seems he wants it on a CM10 based ROM.
I think it's possible, but either not practical or the CM team has other priorities. When I first flashed CM9 on my SGS3 I was able to keep a few of the TW framework features, but lost them after a few days. No idea the cause or what actually was going in the background since I forgot to make a logcat and it's too late now.
Xanatos57 said:
Ok now I'm thoroughly confused by the OP. He first asks if it's possible to have the S apps on a stock rooted ROM. Then it seems he wants it on a CM10 based ROM.
I think it's possible, but either not practical or the CM team has other priorities. When I first flashed CM9 on my SGS3 I was able to keep a few of the TW framework features, but lost them after a few days. No idea the cause or what actually was going in the background since I forgot to make a logcat and it's too late now.
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I think he means stock android. I would go by what he says he is running. AOKP

Should i Root and install CM10 ?

Hi
I just bought a S3 yeah \o/
Now my question, im under BELL, the phone was originaly from ROGERS. So i have all the rogers app, booo.
I know Jelly Bean is coming soon.
So my question is :
If i Root, and install CM10 by exemple, i know the the original Rom in the S3 have a lots of nice tweek and option.
if i install CM10, will i loose all those option and tweek ? Or those should already be in CM10 ????
Other scenario, if i wait for BELL to push Jellybean, will it get all the rogers app out ? And be a real bell phone after the push ?
Thanks
patthe said:
Hi
I just bought a S3 yeah \o/
Now my question, im under BELL, the phone was originaly from ROGERS. So i have all the rogers app, booo.
I know Jelly Bean is coming soon.
So my question is :
If i Root, and install CM10 by exemple, i know the the original Rom in the S3 have a lots of nice tweek and option.
if i install CM10, will i loose all those option and tweek ? Or those should already be in CM10 ????
Other scenario, if i wait for BELL to push Jellybean, will it get all the rogers app out ? And be a real bell phone after the push ?
Thanks
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What tweaks are you talking about? CM10 is based on AOSP so all Touch Wiz options are gone, for example all the Motion features are going to be gone, and the camera features and settings those are also going to be gone.
CM10 has its own features, but they are not the same as TW interface.
You will lose all of the "smart" features by flashing any cm10/aokp rom. You will also have all of the bloat apps from rogers removed.
another alternative would be to root the phone, and install titanium backup and just remove the bloat apps yourself using that app. If you wanted to keep all of the "smart" features.
Either way it is very simple to restore back to stock rom so you can receive the OTA jellybean update whenever it pops off. You simply download the firmware for the Rogers device (unrooted and stock recovery) and then flash that using odin and it will bring you back to stock so you can get the jb update.
**go here and search i747m and get the rogers stock rom if you ever wish to restore so you can get the ota jb update, even though when its released you will see a pile of roms built based off of it so you could just flash one of those to get jellybean goodness**
http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/
To get rid of rogers apps without root all I did was find them in application manager and disabled them.
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To the OP, you can root and not have to try one of the custom roms. If you really like some of the samsung features then try one of the roms that is based on the samsung touchwiz roms. AOSP based roms like CM10 will be missing many of the little things that samsung put in their phones.
Sounds like you want all the Samsung tweaks, so I'd go with Drewgaren's rom, found in the android development section for this device. It's a great ROM but I still prefer CM10.
As a big camera guy, I REALLY like the Samsung camera app, but the AOSP setup is a lot cleaner, faster, is better with google services and more uniform looking... Currently JB AOSP based stuff isn't perfect either as there is no GS3 JB source, I've used AOKP a lot and really like it, but with searching for a new job I really need to make sure I have a stable and bug free phone.
I have a nandroid of both and swap back and forth occasionally... I'm crazy!
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Thanks guys i might wait a little bit for the jelly bean soon maybe
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Jelly bean should be out for the AT&T S3 within the next couple of weeks.
definitly flash cm10. you'll loose touchwiz features like s voice, smart stay, ect because you are flashing an aosp rom. the advantage is that the rom is alot smaller and lighter so you get a huge speed increase and better battery life. if your worried about stability i can say from experience cm10 is currently much more stable than what i got from at&t out of the box.
make a nandroid before you flash so you can always flash back and recieve the ota when it comes out.

[Q] Question coming from cyanogen 10

I noticed that some people in other threads were having a problem flashing a jelly bean rom while coming from cyanogen, and some said that its because cyanogen uses a different kernel. Right now I am on cyan and if I look to flash a different jelly bean rom what would be the proper procedure? Plus I have a nandroid backup of both frosty jelly, as well as the official jelly bean, would it be possible to do a full restore of one of these and then flash a different rom?
Just checking before I do anything, I dont want to be another "think I bricked my phone".
On a seperate note cyanogen is awesome, Im just trying to find the right the fit.
Thanks.

Stock JB Rom

Im running JB RENOVATE 12 rom i was wondering if theres any way i can revert back to stock jb rom on one x?
Come on XDA anybody!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35106724
If you learnt how to search, you wouldn't have to wait so long for your question (which has been seen a bunch of times before) to be answered.
The guide is for returning to ICS, but the principles are the same.

Running AOSP kernels

Hi guys,
I'm running stock 4.1.2 Jelly Bean on my d2tmo Galaxy S3. When I look up kernels and whatnot, they are labelled many different ways. Some have JB in the name, some with AOSP in the name. I'm wondering: what types of kernels can I flash if I'm running a rooted stock ROM? I don't want to flash any custom ROMs because I'm a musichead and I like the stock music player
Thank you!
First of all you can get then stock music player with a custom rom
Second you can only run aosp kernels with an aosp rom. Aosp stands for android open source project. Aosp is not stock.
You can only use kernels labeled stock or touchwiz if you are using stock based rom
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3rd of all, what in the heck do you want? Haha, you say you are running a 4.1.2 rom (only aosp available on TMO) so AOSP... but you want a kernel for stock (4.1.1) touchwiz rom? The stock music apk is great and works on all stock touchwiz based roms, and in my resource guide I have a huge list of what is available and what is what, if the kernel says 4.1.1 TouchWiz then it is for 4.1.1 TouchWiz. if it says 4.2 AOSP it is for 4.2 AOSP, if it says 4.1 AOSP then it is for 4.1 AOSP... Look in my resource bible in my signature, or in the dev sections for [kernel].
See, that's where I get confused. Sorry for the noob questions. I've been looking around but can't find clear, precise answers.
I'm running the stock TouchWiz, out of the box, 4.1.1 Jelly Bean (updated while not rooted to 4.1.2). That stock ROM is not the same as an AOSP ROM or an AOKP ROM, is it? I have another Android device that runs CM10.1 so I know a bit here and a bit there about ROMs and whatnot, but I'm not so confident when it comes to my S3.
Simply put, I want to keep that stock ROM, but get a custom kernel, because the stock kernel SUCKS. I need to know what kernels I can flash, and clninja already said I can only flash kernels labelled stock or TW. Am I correct, so far?
Thank you!
Well here's a Kernel that is supposed to be supported for STOCK rooted : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785466 :highfive: But seriously you should get a custom ROM, the performance improvement is incredible and power management too ! :laugh:
There is a 4.1.2 stock ota ROM?!? I suck lol.
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kruse1944 said:
Well here's a Kernel that is supposed to be supported for STOCK rooted : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785466 :highfive: But seriously you should get a custom ROM, the performance improvement is incredible and power management too ! :laugh:
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That ROM is labelled Jelly Bean in the title but underneath that it says it's only compatible with ICS. Question mark.
Question: when you're running a custom ROM, if there's an update for it, say from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1, you can just flash the update right over and not worry about problems right? Or do you need to factory reset through recovery and wipe the caches all over again?
seokhun said:
That ROM is labelled Jelly Bean in the title but underneath that it says it's only compatible with ICS. Question mark.
Question: when you're running a custom ROM, if there's an update for it, say from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1, you can just flash the update right over and not worry about problems right? Or do you need to factory reset through recovery and wipe the caches all over again?
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There are a couple of touchwiz kernal's around, Ktoonsez is one that I would recommend, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1871946
Usually the general rule of thumb with upgrading custom rom is full wipe and flash, but some users has dirty flashed and had no problems so it depends whether your phone likes you or not.
mt3g said:
There is a 4.1.2 stock ota ROM?!? I suck lol.
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I see what you did there. :highfive:
seokhun said:
Question: when you're running a custom ROM, if there's an update for it, say from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1, you can just flash the update right over and not worry about problems right? Or do you need to factory reset through recovery and wipe the caches all over again?
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Most of the times when you flash a ROM that is built off itself, you can "dirty flash". Example--> That means if you are already on a RootBox Nightly 2/17 with a clean install and RootBox 3/6 comes out, all you have to do is wipe /cache and /dalvik-cache and then flash the new version of the ROM. If any bugs creep up, then if you dirty flashed, chances are that is why.
If you are going to go from a TWiz ROM to an AOSP/AOKP ROM then I suggest a full factory reset and wipe accordingly. That way you have a clean install.
Read the OPs of the ROMs
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Usually the general rule of thumb with upgrading custom rom is full wipe and flash, but some users has dirty flashed and had no problems so it depends whether your phone likes you or not.
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Yup. Thankfully my phone likes me, plus I kind of know what I am doing with regards to diagnosis.
@OP Can you please post exactly what your Build Number says in Settings>About Phone?
seokhun said:
That ROM is labelled Jelly Bean in the title but underneath that it says it's only compatible with ICS. Question mark.
Question: when you're running a custom ROM, if there's an update for it, say from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1, you can just flash the update right over and not worry about problems right? Or do you need to factory reset through recovery and wipe the caches all over again?
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You could install the update, but seriously I never do updates. I manual flash the whole new ROM. ( and I never had any accidents or bugs)
For the kernel, its was a example kernel chose the one you prefert ( THAT SUPPORT TOUCHWIZ STOCK ROM ) or just flash a new ROM with build-in kernel like the ParanoidKANGdroid 10.2 ROM !
I flashed the FrostyJellybean ROM with Xone kernel and it's been good so far. I'm a religious person when it comes to battery, but so far it's about the same as the normal drainage on the stock ROM, no noticeable improvements.
Another question (whoop): if I run a Nandroid backup, does that backup include the ROM itself? In other words, if I'm running the Frosty ROM, and there's a ROM I want to test, will creating a Nandroid include the Frosty, or will it just backup the system image excluding the ROM itself? I'm asking this because I have wanted to restore my Nandroids but didn't know if that backup may overwrite my existing ROM with the previous ROM.
Thank you guys for taking your time to help me out, I really appreciate it!
Woody said:
@OP Can you please post exactly what your Build Number says in Settings>About Phone?
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I have flashed a new ROM, so I no longer have the stock Build Number. It now says FrostyJellybean v11.6. I can tell you for a fact that I was previously running 4.1.1 rooted but without any customization or mod whatsoever outside the phone's original settings, so as stock as you can get.
A Nandroid is essentially a snapshot of your ROM at that point in time. You can back it up, try a new ROM and if you don't like it, then restore your Nandroid. A Nandroid should be done before you flash anything. You don't necessarily have to keep them all except your latest, but at least have one for when you try something out.
You can flash and restore just fine from ROM to ROM. Only thing is, you can't restore across platforms. Meaning, if you are on JB 4.1.1, you couldn't restore to ICS 4.0.4. Likewise you can restore a JB 4.1.1 if you are on a JB 4.2.2 ROM because of the file structure. There are ways to do it, but I won't go into that right now. Moral of that story is you can flash and restore laterally as far as builds go, but you cannot restore across different base builds.
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I just wanted to see your Settings>About Phone>Build Number because in your OP, you stated that you were running "stock 4.1.2 Jelly Bean". We don't have a stock 4.1.2 ROM, so I was making sure you didn't have another phone. Sure, could be a T999 but there are Canadian versions out there that require different things.
Oh, about the Android version, yes, it's 4.1.1. I wrote 4.1.2 because I thought there was some stuff going on, like wireless and whatnot, and had previously read somewhere that 4.1.2 was rolling out and my phone was doing the "Android is upgrading" thing when it booted up and I didn't check the version before writing that. No worries, it was the stock 4.1.1.
Thank you so much for answering my questions, you guys are awesome!

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