Well over the weekend I tried 4 different JellyBean ROM's, I used stock kernel or kernels supplied by the ROM creator or Franco's. I just don't see what the excitement is about?! Am I crazy or blind or something? I figure I must be missing something and thus why the question. I want to know from you what you find so great about JellyBean that current ICS 4.0.4 ROM's don't already offer. Ya ya I know, it's early but still. You opt to drop a feature filled ROM for JB which to me is as plain jane as you can get. I think battery is better, wifi/data handling is better but beyond that I just don't see anything that says, GO TO JB! I guess I'm spoiled, I don't know. I use AOKP and BlackICE predominantly on my phone and the ability to change theme's, status bar options, nav bar resizing are all very important for me. So today I am back on BlackICE and just elated to have all my customization options back.
Well...While I'm camping AOKPM6 as well...
I also understand the thrive to be on the newest [best] thing.
Some people will trade features for simple bragging rights...
It's also got google now. And is much more fluid.
Aside from that; if you're currently happy where you are: stay there.
If you NEED the latest and greatest, you've probably already moved on.
Jelly Bean is way faster then stock ICS 4.0.4
Everything that I do is faster now. It's soo smooth! I haven't (yet) used a custom rom for my Galaxy NEXUS so I came from the most stock you can get. My phone is also just ~10 days old. I have never experienced android 4.0.1 to it's fullest extent because I went straight from 4.0.1 to 4.0.2 to 4.0.4 within 10 minutes (OTA update) Used 4.0.4 for a while since last thursday which is the day I got the update to Jelly Bean. It's just smoother. Especially the browser with playing youtube flash videos is way faster now. It used to be very laggy if I tried to zoom in/out and it was a little bit choppy when scrolling up and down. Now with Jelly Bean, the scrolling is way faster (not buttery smooth but it's faster!!) and zooming in/out is buttery smooth WITH playing video's through the stock browser (not chrome). Those were 2 720p video's playing at the same time and the performance was great. Way better then I had with Android 4.0.4
Now, if I find any slowdown I blame the phone, yet those same slowdowns also happen on a stock Galaxy S3 which my brother owns. The phone's UI is faster than a GS3 (which already is super fast!)
What jelly bean does is, it enhances the Stock android 4.0.4. You are on a custom rom which already enhanced stock 4.0.4. So I don't know how much a improvement you will notice but just wait till the dev's release an enhanced Jelly Bean Rom! That will kick ass for sure!
While I found some things faster I didn't find the whole experience better. I guess as you said I'm using a custom ROM and kernel. A lot of mix and match but its pretty lag free for me overall.
Ya I guessitmate it will be faster with a custom JB ROM. So far all ones I tried are just to stock and not much of an improvement.
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JB is awesome. and pretty fast. but in real world usage ( for me anyway ) not enough for me to stick with it over a custom ICS rom.. went back to AOKP and trinity . best combo for me. once the other roms catch up with JB etc. will switch.. but im content atm..
you just have to watch the Google IO Keynote yourselves...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuC0i4xTyrI (Jellybean starts at 4:58 and ends at 30:00)
I definitely sense the increase in smoothness and speed with Jelly Bean. I remain on ics for now though since aokp has spoiled me with all the extra features. Once they release JB with everything merged in I'm never looking back to ICS
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Idk how its possible to not see a noticeable difference between the 2 if you have used JB. I love JB but its killing me not having features of custom ROMs. So I'd definitely say stay on what makes you happy but once the same thing is available on JB there's def. No reason not to switch.
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see for me i find all those customization fetures kinda useless and over whelming at times. id find mself just changing stuff just cuz i could. often breaking or messing other apps up. took me a week to figure out that if you fool with the navigation bar the game nba jam (which i play daily) wouldnt start.
but on JB its all about performance. its smoother/faster than ICS. custom/stock. its its project butter engine.
animations more flluid, no choppiness and of course it has the siri competior google now. not to mention its prettied up a few gapps like google music/youtube/sms. the notification bar is waaaaaay more usefull, though still without toggles.
This thread makes no sense. Of course custom Roms are gonna be better. None of the devs have merged the jelly bean source her so we only have ICS Roms for now. Jelly bean brings significant smoothness and speed, Google now, offline speech text. Its great improvements.
Butter makes it better, duh!
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So I basically just flashed my yakjuxw build to yakju, to get my hands on Jellybean. The experience is more than awesome, buttery smooth and fast! Now, I wonder, what will (for example) AOKP bring to the table to make it 'even more' buttery and fast, etc? I'm not much of a tweaker, I just really wonder if there will be any SIGNIFICANT advantages over stock rom. It all seems a bit silly to me.
Every other Android phone I have had I've flashed all the ROMs available purely to try and have the stock experience or get to a new version of Android. I purchased the Galaxy Nexus so I would get all the updates when released and to enjoy the stock experience, I have no intention of installing custom ROMs on this device.
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aokp brings few options to try with not the speed. It's the user experience that get enhanced with custom roms.
Similarly cm10 aosp and stock custom Roms do the same but not as much as cm10 and aokp do natively.
atifsh said:
aokp brings few options to try with not the speed. It's the user experience that get enhanced with custom roms.
Similarly cm10 aosp and stock custom Roms do the same but not as much as cm10 and aokp do natively.
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So what you're saying is that it's mostly visual differences? I mean what are the key elements that AOKP/ CM10 provide?
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So what you're saying is that it's mostly visual differences? I mean what are the key elements that AOKP/ CM10 provide?
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Watch a video or something. Aokp brings a lot of new features, such as customizable navbar, options to move your clock and change your battery icon and what not, weather and calendar on your lock screen. That's the type of things you'll see on a custom ROM.
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Custom ROMs are more about extra features. At least when it comes to builds like Jelly Bean. I don't see Jelly Bean needing much in performance enhancements.
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Aokp or cyan brings TONS of useful real world features. Its not just visual stuff or fluff. If you are asking then you aren't aware what these roms offer.
The problem is their JB versions don't have much added yet. So you'd have to flash their ICS version to see a fully loaded rom.
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Aokp or cyan brings TONS of useful real world features. Its not just visual stuff or fluff. If you are asking then you aren't aware what these roms offer.
The problem is their JB versions don't have much added yet. So you'd have to flash their ICS version to see a fully loaded rom.
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Noted. It sounds interesting. It's just that it makes my head spin sometimes, all the possibilities I guess we have to wait until a good JB rom shows up. However, isn't it slightly annoying you have to reflash the whole time to get the newest builds etc? I just don't see myself doing that the whole time
I am getting a nexus Monday. Right now I have a note. I have been reading the last coupledays to try and catch up but maybe I have missed something. Isn't there already good jellybean roms out already? Like Paranoid Android?
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Noted. It sounds interesting. It's just that it makes my head spin sometimes, all the possibilities I guess we have to wait until a good JB rom shows up. However, isn't it slightly annoying you have to reflash the whole time to get the newest builds etc? I just don't see myself doing that the whole time
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Alot of roms use Rom Manager or Goo Manager to host or link to their roms, with goo manager you can update most roms like an ota update when ever the dev updates the rom on Goo.im , same holds true with Rom Manager though i dont recall which website is used.
As far as both CyanogenMod and AOKP you can use these applications so that you dont have to search for the latest and greatest, just hit a button telling the application to check for updates and if there is one it applies it for you and phone updates nice and easy, of course you have to let the phone reboot to recovery and what not but the entire process becomes automated.
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Noted. It sounds interesting. It's just that it makes my head spin sometimes, all the possibilities I guess we have to wait until a good JB rom shows up. However, isn't it slightly annoying you have to reflash the whole time to get the newest builds etc? I just don't see myself doing that the whole time
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No not at all. Before jelly bean, I just flashed a loaded aokp and ran it for months and months. No need to upgrade. Currently JB roms need to be merged but once they are finished just flash one and go live life using the extra functions. If you are looking for a hobby then yes flash each week.
And as mentioned, most of the time you can just flash the rom update just like an OTA and you don't lose anything. Its just like an official ota update.
I'm really enjoying cm10 on my nexus, and have for months. I feel very little compulsion to upgrade to a 4.2.1 rom, but at the same time...I'm and android user! Flashing roms is what we do!
Are there any features that I'm really missing out on in 4.2.1 that you have grown to love?
Most of the 4.2 apps like camera which has photosphere can be installed on 4.1 so things like that, you dont need to update for. The few things you would get from updating are the lock screen widgets and quick settings. Thats all I can think of off the top of my head. Maybe some performance increases and other stuff under the hood. I'm on CM 10.1 and loving it though.
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Most of the 4.2 apps like camera which has photosphere can be installed on 4.1 so things like that, you dont need to update for. The few things you would get from updating are the lock screen widgets and quick settings. Thats all I can think of off the top of my head. Maybe some performance increases and other stuff under the hood. I'm on CM 10.1 and loving it though.
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Oh yeah, should have clarified that I'm already running the 4.2 app transformation pack, so I'm using the 4.2 apps. Otherwise that would be a great reason to upgrade.
Pretty much just the pulldown toggles. While I do run pmg and some mods I enjoy stock and the pulldown means that 4.2 is the first time I've been able to run basic stock and not feel like I was missing something.
The keyboard is my favorite feature, but that can be installed w/o the update. The quick settings are okay, but meh. CM's G+ page says 10.1 "M Series" is coming soon.
No real to die for features IMO. I am on 10.1 only for Faux kernel tbh... if he still supported 10 I'd have stuck with it.
Everything you get in 10.1 is there in CM10 with the exception of the poorly implemented lock screen widgets that I've disabled anyway.
Nope. Nothing killer. But it's new, and thus we flash it.
Not really features but I get much better battery life and for the most part 4.1.2 ROMs and kernels are no longer being updated
No to die for features. And 4.2 is a lot less stable right now than 4.1 with all the SoDs and stuff. I say stick with the transformation pack and wait for another update from Google
Hey guys Ive been thinking lately of trying the new ota but I have a few questions/concerns.
Im on bugless beast 4.1.2 and couldn't be happier. Never an f/c, no stuttering, perfect stable setup. Will I find the same on a stock-like 4.2.2 rom? I tried some 4.2.1 roms but always walked away disastified (jittery crt animation, buggy, laggy). Any bugs on 4.2.2? Hows the speed over 4.1.2? I dont really care about the new toggles and lockscreen but if the speed is better and is stable id be interested.
Thanks!
No major changes. Believe me. Just update to be up to date. No other visible reasons.
All new versions run slower than previous. Custom kernels - we all know are just a placebo. Except kernel configuration possibility (for instance to slow down the phone to save the battery (which I doubt makes any sense) or turn on the fast charge).
So your phone won't be faster and your battery won't run longer.
If you want a decent standby and screen time (the default is - 12-16h and 2h screen time MAX!):
1. Disable Wifi
2. Disable Data
3. Switch to 2G
Everything else - waste of time
So 4.2.2 is slower than 4.1.2?
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So 4.2.2 is slower than 4.1.2?
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I've heard people say that it's smoother on their devices, but... the most reliable way to know would be to backup and flash it yourself. It seems that everyone's device is different, and everyone's choice of running apps is different as well. So only you would likely know if it is faster for you or not.
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Hey guys Ive been thinking lately of trying the new ota but I have a few questions/concerns.
Im on bugless beast 4.1.2 and couldn't be happier. Never an f/c, no stuttering, perfect stable setup. Will I find the same on a stock-like 4.2.2 rom? I tried some 4.2.1 roms but always walked away disastified (jittery crt animation, buggy, laggy). Any bugs on 4.2.2? Hows the speed over 4.1.2? I dont really care about the new toggles and lockscreen but if the speed is better and is stable id be interested.
Thanks!
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I was on 4.1.2 since December because 4.2.1 was junk.
4.2.2 runs great, they polished the quirks out and I don't feel the need to switch back. Google stock image, stock kernel.
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I was on 4.1.2 since December because 4.2.1 was junk.
4.2.2 runs great, they polished the quirks out and I don't feel the need to switch back. Google stock image, stock kernel.
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Ah thats what I wanna hear
Hey Guys, I just want to say that I'm really frustrated. I've been on an OCD-like flash binge looking for a smooth, stable, graphically glitch free rom, and I haven't been able to find one.
Here's what I tried and what about these roms led me to flash away:
- [Chad's 4.1.2 AOSP]. Cyanogen-free Stock AOSP, smoothest of all of them and no graphical glitches (open an app and watch the transitions, most if not all apps will be choppy in their transitions when opening, small detail, but it's there. In most ROMS. Except this one) However, stuck on 4.1.2, associated with drama apparently, and lock screen would be slow to start up on times
-[slimbean, Liquidsmooth, carbon] Latest releases. They're all smooth and apparently stable; however, graphical glitches plague them all. Apart from the transition choppiness mentioned earlier, these roms have a transparent nav bar that messes things up. For example when opening an app, a white bar shows up where the status bar is, even though its for a half a second, it's annoying. Plus I'm not a big fan of so many contradictory options from the rom - I like it minimal and functional, but that's not really an issue.
-{mrom} march 9. After being almost blinded by the horrible orange theme (no offense, just my taste), I switched to a stock theme that was mercifully included. This is the one I'm running now w/ Leankernel, as the status bar glitch isn't there. But the transitions are still choppy at times, as well as any music playing (cyanogen mod issue apparently). RIght now im hoping that his upgrade to the 3.4 kernel fixes many of the issues.
But that's been my journey so far to find something as minimal and functional as the stock that comes with Nexus line of phones. I've tried a bunch of other aosp roms not listed, but so far same experience as liquidsmooth and the others.
If you guys know of any rom that is just PERFECT, please let me know, as I'm 12 steps away from becoming a flashaholic I apologize as I know Isound like a whiny bizznitch, but my inner soul wont rest until I flash in peace.:angel:
I to have been on a flashing spree lately. I'm now happy with the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2116531 ROM. Absolutely amazing. You have the option to do just about anything you want with the ROM. Morphology is awesome. You should definitely check it out. You can also add MultiView which is cool.
I prefer the look of stock Google. Even with touch wiz I had some lag and bad battery life. I just flashed back to the anthrax ROM. 4.2.1 but its smooth. Want to go back to 4.2.2 tho Lol. Never ending cycle
Well this is the question Jellybean is really awesome but Ics still almost the same. What you think? A newer version of android is always better then old ones?
Should i switch to Ics just for stability or stay on Jellybean and laugh of how fast is my phone.
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Do you like stability or new features? That will tell you your answer.
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Well this is the question Jellybean is really awesome but Ics still almost the same. What you think? A newer version of android is always better then old ones?
Should i switch to Ics just for stability or stay on Jellybean and laugh of how fast is my phone.
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Good question. Find myself asking the same thing these days. Lately, I've begun to realize my application preferences may end up driving my primary choice of ROM toward that/those one(s) that provides support for them.
More specifically, wifi-calling, voip, and sip applications have become a priority. ROM support for these applications are more important to me than any other.
I'm less than thrilled with the thought of "downgrading" my ROM from aokp jb 4.2.2 with all its current level of stability, silkiness, and polish to a 4.0.4 ics ROM. Was/am hoping that I can have my application preferences and choice of ROM too. Ultimately, having certain applications run with a arbitrary level of sophistication is more important than any alternative that doesnt provide consistent results.
Bottom line for me at this time: time to see if the tools i want to have available to me work better for me on ics or jb. Since I've tried with aokp jb it's time for me to try some ics versions to see if consistent results are more likely with ics or jb. If there's little to no difference, I'll go back to jb; otherwise, it'll be ics for me until I can achieve a similar level of performance with jb or newer.
It really depends on whats important to you. For me personally, I can find all the things *I* want in a 4.0.4 ROM. Ive tried many 4.2.1 and 4.2.2 ROMS, and as good as they are, they just arent as stable, and *for me* its not worth giving up wifi calling. All the "tweaks" in 4.2.x, IMHO, are worthless. Stuff like customizing whether my clock is gone, on the right, or center screen...customizing vibration...stuff like that I could care less about. Although I havent bench marked (again, I could care less about benchmark scores) the apps *I* use dont feel any faster on 4.2.x than on ICS.
So, *for me*, ICS stability > JB, app response in ICS = JB, and the customizations in JB dont customize anything I really care about.
YMMV though.