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[Q] 3G Modem dongle

Hi
Since Tab 10.1 can act as USB Host.
do you think Tab 10.1 Wifi Only will support connecting 3G USB Modem (Dongle)?
in this case you can use 3G when you want with your Wifi tab.

You can use your Smartphone and grant tethering/hotspot access, don't forget that ;]

bijo said:
Hi
Since Tab 10.1 can act as USB Host.
do you think Tab 10.1 Wifi Only will support connecting 3G USB Modem (Dongle)?
in this case you can use 3G when you want with your Wifi tab.
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While possible, it's highly unlikely. It would require the USB modem manufacturer to write an Android specific driver, and it would assume there's enough demand for those modem companies to go down that route.
Since cell companies are eager to sell you 3G/4G editions of the tablet, there certainly won't get any encouragement from the carrier side. Since the modem companies make money when they sell more modems (embedded or standalone), they're also largely uninterested in giving people more ways to live with a single modem.
Couple that with Honeycomb being young and a bit rough, there's probably also less interest in investing in Honeycomb drivers today when a converged Ice Cream Sandwich platform is due at the end of 2011. Why bother going through 2 dev cycles?
If you want to use your USB modem with your WiFi Tab, you're far better off buying a Cradlepoint PHS-300. That will let you use your modem with a Wi-Fi hotspot. Or alternatively, visit your local carrier and see about getting yourself upgraded to one of their MiFi devices.

alee said:
While possible, it's highly unlikely. It would require the USB modem manufacturer to write an Android specific driver, and it would assume there's enough demand for those modem companies to go down that route.
Since cell companies are eager to sell you 3G/4G editions of the tablet, there certainly won't get any encouragement from the carrier side. Since the modem companies make money when they sell more modems (embedded or standalone), they're also largely uninterested in giving people more ways to live with a single modem.
Couple that with Honeycomb being young and a bit rough, there's probably also less interest in investing in Honeycomb drivers today when a converged Ice Cream Sandwich platform is due at the end of 2011. Why bother going through 2 dev cycles?
If you want to use your USB modem with your WiFi Tab, you're far better off buying a Cradlepoint PHS-300. That will let you use your modem with a Wi-Fi hotspot. Or alternatively, visit your local carrier and see about getting yourself upgraded to one of their MiFi devices.
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Android use the Linux Kernel, doesn't it mean that all of the drivers that exists in the Linux Kernel will be support in Android too?
if so, I just need to find a modem that it is supported by the linux kernel

bijo said:
Android use the Linux Kernel, doesn't it mean that all of the drivers that exists in the Linux Kernel will be support in Android too?
if so, I just need to find a modem that it is supported by the linux kernel
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Somebody else chime in if I'm wrong, but I don't think it works like that...

Kevin Gossett said:
Somebody else chime in if I'm wrong, but I don't think it works like that...
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Definitely doesn't work like that.

I'm very interested in this too, It has been done fot the Acer A500:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118639

dcc22 said:
You can use your Smartphone and grant tethering/hotspot access, don't forget that ;]
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Sorry for the shameless bump on such an old post lol.. but are you saying i can connect my note to my tab and use the note as a 3g modem? If so how?
Cheers
Monkey

nuclearmonkeyuk said:
Sorry for the shameless bump on such an old post lol.. but are you saying i can connect my note to my tab and use the note as a 3g modem? If so how?
Cheers
Monkey
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in settings there is a tethering option, should make your note into a hotspot, then you just connect to the interwebs and go.

CDMA GNex

Hi all. I just got my GNex from Verizon. I've heard things about this phone on the CDMA side being abandoned by devs. Is this true? If so, should I get a different phone (I still have 9 days to take it back)? I'm coming from a DX, so I love hacking and flashing.. If this phone is still a keeper...can someone point me in the right direction to a thread for rooting and ROMs and flashing (oh my!)?
Thanks all
-Path
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Where did you hear that this phone was being abandoned?!
Keep it, you will be glad you did.

It is not being abandoned, Google is just dropping official support for it. That's it.
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Miscellaneous posts from people lol
I thought it was odd considering I bought this phone because it was known for being hackable..
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Here is a thread to get you started for unlocking and rooting...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400871
Check out this forum for all kinds of ROMs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1455

joshnichols189 said:
It is not being abandoned, Google is just dropping official support for it. That's it.
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Google just dropped it as a developer phone. the updates will still be rolling out.Google stated that clearly. the update might take a bit longer than the GSM nexus..but v will still get it....
trust me the nexus will see updates quicker than anybody.
the nexus will see official version 5.0 android os... None of the Droid line ups will see official android 5.0 version on them..trust me
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PathologyX said:
Hi all. I just got my GNex from Verizon. I've heard things about this phone on the CDMA side being abandoned by devs. Is this true? If so, should I get a different phone (I still have 9 days to take it back)? ...
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Take it back. Get the GSM version. Get anything else.
CDMA is pretty **** to begin with, but Google has admitted that AOSP Android cannot fully support CDMA. You cannot use the Android source to create a working CDMA build without proprietary blobs, delivered by Google, if the carrier permits it.
Google's support for CDMA depends on carriers permitting it. On a Nexus device.
Think about that.
You wont find any shennigance like that in the GSM world because the system is not ass-****ed enough to begin with to allow such carrier-control. GSM is open. GSM is the freedom you want.
Yes. Like the poeople here will tell you: For now the CDMA devs can hack a release together just fine. They can give you a working ROM based on hacking blobs and Android source. But no, but there are no guarantees it will remain that way. One day, you might be out of luck.
The CDMA/Verizon Galaxy Nexus is a carrier-neutered Nexus. It's not the real goods. And it never was. Think about the months delayed release, because a carrier had objections to what Google put on a "clean" developer phone.
The result is carrier bloatware, and Android features like tethering removed.
The CDMA/Verizon Nexus: It's not what you want. It wasn't when it was announced, and with AOSP support taken back, it definitely isn't now.
Just return that POS and get anything else. I've had non-Nexus phones miles more open than the "Verizon Nexus". It's a joke. It's the laughing-stock of the internet.

I have to have Verizon though :\
Where I live, GSM carriers (ATT is really the only one) get horrid service..
So, knowing that, what's your opinion?
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Keep it...
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

PathologyX said:
I have to have Verizon though :\
Where I live, GSM carriers (ATT is really the only one) get horrid service..
So, knowing that, what's your opinion?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
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Please don't listen to this guy he has been trolling these boards for a couple days now, makes me wonder if the mods are on vacation
(Last part of that was a joke/sarcasm of course)
Verizon is just as hackable, you will have no shortage of ROM's for at least a year or year and a half.

Okay, good to know
Thanks for all of your help/suggestions (minus the troll.. gtfo)
I'll keep it then ;D
Now let's see if I can hack this one worse than my DX xD doubtful
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josteink said:
Take it back. Get the GSM version. Get anything else.
CDMA is pretty **** to begin with, but Google has admitted that AOSP Android cannot fully support CDMA. You cannot use the Android source to create a working CDMA build without proprietary blobs, delivered by Google, if the carrier permits it.
Google's support for CDMA depends on carriers permitting it. On a Nexus device.
Think about that.
You wont find any shennigance like that in the GSM world because the system is not ass-****ed enough to begin with to allow such carrier-control. GSM is open. GSM is the freedom you want.
Yes. Like the poeople here will tell you: For now the CDMA devs can hack a release together just fine. They can give you a working ROM based on hacking blobs and Android source. But no, but there are no guarantees it will remain that way. One day, you might be out of luck.
The CDMA/Verizon Galaxy Nexus is a carrier-neutered Nexus. It's not the real goods. And it never was. Think about the months delayed release, because a carrier had objections to what Google put on a "clean" developer phone.
The result is carrier bloatware, and Android features like tethering removed.
The CDMA/Verizon Nexus: It's not what you want. It wasn't when it was announced, and with AOSP support taken back, it definitely isn't now.
Just return that POS and get anything else. I've had non-Nexus phones miles more open than the "Verizon Nexus". It's a joke. It's the laughing-stock of the internet.
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Claiming misinformation as fact - check
Trolls numerous CDMA GN threads - check
Listen, bud, the *only* things missing are the blobs, which can be extracted, no need for any hacking ATM, by users.
The fact that you need to result to swearing just goes to show how juvenile you really are.
Bloatware? Two apps? Hardly a big deal unless it is you trying to make a point by drastic exaggeration. Those on these boards who have the phone are running ROMs that doesn't include them so it is opt-in.
Tethering removed? That is just an outright fabrication by you.
Enjoy your GSM and let the OP enjoy twice the storage capacity of your phone and four times the transfer speed of yours.

mutelight said:
Claiming misinformation as fact - check
Trolls numerous CDMA GN threads - check
Listen, bud, the *only* things missing are the blobs, which can be extracted, no need for any hacking ATM, by users.
The fact that you need to result to swearing just goes to show how juvenile you really are.
Bloatware? Two apps? Hardly a big deal unless it is you trying to make a point by drastic exaggeration. Those on these boards who have the phone are running ROMs that doesn't include them so it is opt-in.
Tethering removed? That is just an outright fabrication by you.
Enjoy your GSM and let the OP enjoy twice the storage capacity of your phone and four times the transfer speed of yours.
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Funny thing is, on ICS the bloatware can be "Disabled" which is basically the same thing as freezing the app in TiBu which also removes it from your app drawer and stops it from running, essentially removing it from your phone.
Oh and I think what he means in terms of tether is that you have to pay to use it, which is the same with any other carrier just with the CDMA model it is pre built in that it is blocked.
Either way this guy is just an obvious troll.

Me a troll? Come on. Sorry for spreading the good word of freedom around the Nexus forums then.
If anyone should be called a troll at this point it should be Verizon. So far they've completely butchered the Nexus program, and nobody is even pointing a finger at them.
Good job. Really. I'd be surprised to see Google even bother with a non-standard carrier anytime again, if the Nexus program isn't sabotaged enough to be dead by then.
I'll piss off. Enjoy your carrier-approved, carrier-branded Nexus.
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miketoasty said:
Oh and I think what he means in terms of tether is that you have to pay to use it, which is the same with any other carrier just with the CDMA model it is pre built in that it is blocked.
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On all carriers I have had, I pay for data. How I use it is entirely up to me. Tethering is a phone-level function and not anything the carrier can or should control.
And least of all disable or strip free, built-in tethering from the phone. Jesus christ that is invasive to the point of being illegal where I live.
Sorry. There is a free market out there, and there **** like this is not accepted. I thought people buying Nexus-devices would be aware of things like that.
I guess that defines a troll around here, being European.

josteink said:
Me a troll? Come on. Sorry for spreading the good word of freedom around the Nexus forums then.
If anyone should be called a troll at this point it should be Verizon. So far they've completely butchered the Nexus program, and nobody is even pointing a finger at them.
Good job. Really. I'd be surprised to see Google even bother with a non-standard carrier anytime again, if the Nexus program isn't sabotaged enough to be dead by then.
I'll piss off. Enjoy your carrier-approved, carrier-branded Nexus.
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What did Verizon do in all this mess other than put their name on the back and put some (Removable) bloatware on the phone?
You don't back up your points at all but whine about how terrible this phone is, obvious troll is obvious.

miketoasty said:
What did Verizon do in all this mess other than put their name on the back and put some (Removable) bloatware on the phone?
You don't back up your points at all but whine about how terrible this phone is, obvious troll is obvious.
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They stripped the built in, free Android-tethering and replaced it with a for-pay service?
In the rest of the world, you'd return the phone over a defect like that.

josteink said:
On all carriers I have had, I pay for data. How I use it is entirely up to me. Tethering is a phone-level function and not anything the carrier can or should control.
And least of all disable or strip free, built-in tethering from the phone. Jesus christ that is invasive to the point of being illegal where I live.
Sorry. There is a free market out there, and there **** like this is not accepted. I thought people buying Nexus-devices would be aware of things like that.
I guess that defines a troll around here, being European.
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You are free to use data as you wish, as it is pre defined in your agreement you make with the carrier when you use their network. Verizon has tethering in their contract as a paid service. I understand it may be different where you live but here in the states that's just how it is.
The tethering is usable once you enable a tethering plan to your account so why would they remove it?
Yes there is a free market out there but there are also contracts we sign so we can use these phones, and like I said it may be different around here than it is out there.
Enjoy your phone and we will continue to live in our idiotic bliss.
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josteink said:
They stripped the built in, free Android-tethering and replaced it with a for-pay service?
In the rest of the world, you'd return the phone over a defect like that.
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Read above post, and they stripped nothing, just added a message (If you don't pay for the service) that you need to pay for it before you use it.

josteink said:
They stripped the built in, free Android-tethering and replaced it with a for-pay service?
In the rest of the world, you'd return the phone over a defect like that.
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If you don't have the technical knowledge, then don't speak of what you do not know.
They stripped nothing. They have a provisioning apk in place for legit users. Its easily bypassed and we leave it out of aosp.

josteink said:
Take it back. Get the GSM version. Get anything else.
CDMA is pretty **** to begin with, but Google has admitted that AOSP Android cannot fully support CDMA. You cannot use the Android source to create a working CDMA build without proprietary blobs, delivered by Google, if the carrier permits it.
Google's support for CDMA depends on carriers permitting it. On a Nexus device.
Think about that.
You wont find any shennigance like that in the GSM world because the system is not ass-****ed enough to begin with to allow such carrier-control. GSM is open. GSM is the freedom you want.
Yes. Like the poeople here will tell you: For now the CDMA devs can hack a release together just fine. They can give you a working ROM based on hacking blobs and Android source. But no, but there are no guarantees it will remain that way. One day, you might be out of luck.
The CDMA/Verizon Galaxy Nexus is a carrier-neutered Nexus. It's not the real goods. And it never was. Think about the months delayed release, because a carrier had objections to what Google put on a "clean" developer phone.
The result is carrier bloatware, and Android features like tethering removed.
The CDMA/Verizon Nexus: It's not what you want. It wasn't when it was announced, and with AOSP support taken back, it definitely isn't now.
Just return that POS and get anything else. I've had non-Nexus phones miles more open than the "Verizon Nexus". It's a joke. It's the laughing-stock of the internet.
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u mad
......

josteink said:
... It's the laughing-stock of the internet.
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I'd return it asap.. who'd ever want to be the laughing stock of the internet!?

[Q] Has wifi-calling been ported to any ROMs? For t-mobile

I tried searching the roms forum, but I couldn't find anything.

It hasn't yet.
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Nope. And I wouldn't count on it. Its extremely hard to port it to an all-new platform. The apps are special-made for branded T-Mobile devices.

They are actually just built into the ROMs. A dev on HD2 forum has a really great solution, but it used to be an app of some sorts that needed a specific lib to run. Now it seems that they have started to integrate it into the OS. It has a settings page now, no actual app that needs to run.
There is some development going on for it right now over on the T989 forums. I may just go for it even without wifi calling.

albanianbrotha said:
I tried searching the roms forum, but I couldn't find anything.
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Bump as this would be great for those wanting this phone but suffer from poor indoor T-Mobile reception. This is the only thing making me hold off on getting this device over an SGSIII.

quailallstar said:
Bump as this would be great for those wanting this phone but suffer from poor indoor T-Mobile reception. This is the only thing making me hold off on getting this device over an SGSIII.
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It will never come. Do not hold off expecting T-Mobile Wi-Fi Calling to come to this device.

Not having wifi calling was a concern for me but also manyytimes I had problems withnnoticeable delayon a call using ewifiand also yoibmight find that fforcing your phone to 2g where you normally use wifi calling will give you good signal (did for me).

martonikaj said:
It will never come. Do not hold off expecting T-Mobile Wi-Fi Calling to come to this device.
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HD Voice (anyone notice any change?)

http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/t-mobile-network-advancements
wonder if this is only for stock/unmodded phones only.
anyone notice sound quality change?

atb1183 said:
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/t-mobile-network-advancements
wonder if this is only for stock/unmodded phones only.
anyone notice sound quality change?
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interesting, I assume they will need to do an update to each phone's radio?

Hahaha that suppose to be starting yesterday. Weird that just today y friends started telling me that they cant hear me well. That my voice comes and goes but this is suppose to be for tmobile users not the callers

Probably be in an update. Haven't gotten anything on my end.
I am all about it though. Especially my stepdaughters Nokia Lumia as it is ridiculously terrible on the voice side, which is strange as Nokia used to be known just for how good their call quality was. Been through 3 replacements to boot....
My S3 sounds fine as well on most other phones, but the more the merrier as the old saying goes.
Sent from a galaxy far away!

Funny thing is with all the teaming off att frequency band AND thus hd voice thing, my s3 signal quality been worsening. More dropped calls and when not dropped, sounds quality is mediocre to not useable.
Only recently though.used to be quite useable
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atb1183 said:
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/t-mobile-network-advancements
wonder if this is only for stock/unmodded phones only.
anyone notice sound quality change?
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If you go into Service mode *#0011#, you will see AMR 12.2Kbit/s. Im guessing that this is it. I wonder if you need to have noise reduction enabled for this? Also, I've noticed my signal improved( Usually -89dBm) I'm reading 83dBm now...

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wonder if this is only for stock/unmodded phones only.
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I read somewhere that you need T-Mobile wifi-calling/IMS for VoLTE (Voice over LTE, or in this case HSPA+ "4G")
Oh yes, it is also going to be used for T-Mobile's VoLTE for its 2013 LTE launch, too. So it really does need to become supported in CM9 and AOSP soon.
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Source: xda post
T-Mobile open sourced IMS, which is used to allow apps to use wifi-calling (source is here). In order for "HD voice" to work on AOSP based/non-TW ROMs, IMS support will have to be added to the ROM. AFAIK, it can be done with the code T-Mobile and Movial released, but whether it ever gets added is looking slim as no ROM developer has expressed any interest in it it looks like the source T-Mobile released is pretty useless without knowing how to connect or authenticate with T-Mo's servers.
Sorry if I sound bitter, but I'd personally love to see wifi-calling ported to CM10 T-Mobile ROMs (especially the S3), but it doesn't look like it'll happen. I get horrible coverage in my home and drop calls/lose signal if I move into most areas inside. That said, wifi-calling is the only thing keeping me from ditching TW for a nice CM10 based ROM.

+1 and agree with you. That is the only thing keeping me from a cyanogenmod based rom. I prefer those anyway over everything else. But until wifi calling comes to an aosp rom i will have to stay on tw

10.1 (2014) and Smartphone Pairing

I'm looking at a new smartphone in addition to picking the this tablet. Does anyone know if there is an advantage to having a Samsung phone or would any cross compatibly be the same regardless of manufacturer? This would be my first smartphone and tablet purchases so I hope I'm not asking a dumb question...

Toolshed11 said:
I'm looking at a new smartphone in addition to picking the this tablet. Does anyone know if there is an advantage to having a Samsung phone or would any cross compatibly be the same regardless of manufacturer? This would be my first smartphone and tablet purchases so I hope I'm not asking a dumb question...
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Some of the apps used on the Note 10.1 are proprietary to Samsung so you would need a Note 1,2,3 to use them on a phone. I run a custom ROM and have none of those apps on my N1 so I can't really say what the advantage would be to being able to use them on both devices other than familiarity.

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Some of the apps used on the Note 10.1 are proprietary to Samsung so you would need a Note 1,2,3 to use them on a phone. I run a custom ROM and have none of those apps on my N1 so I can't really say what the advantage would be to being able to use them on both devices other than familiarity.
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Thanks for the advice. :good:

Toolshed11 said:
Thanks for the advice. :good:
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NP, I've never owned a tablet so I can't speak for that but I bought the Galaxy Note 1 on the day it was released and have been very satisfied.
If you end up going with these 2 I would think you will be as well. Also note that if you end up rooting the Note 3 you can use it as a wifi hotspot for your tablet so if you're looking to save some money you can just get the wifi version and not the LTE or 3g version.

Toolshed11 said:
I'm looking at a new smartphone in addition to picking the this tablet. Does anyone know if there is an advantage to having a Samsung phone or would any cross compatibly be the same regardless of manufacturer? This would be my first smartphone and tablet purchases so I hope I'm not asking a dumb question...
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Well if you get Samsung Galaxy phone you get function like S-beam which uses NFC to initiate connection then transfers files via WiFi direct much faster then doing Dropbox upload then download.
Also with Galaxy phone's you get S-Memo which sync's with all the Galaxy devices same like Evernote but with Note devices you get to draw or hand write memo.

SousukeUK said:
Well if you get Samsung Galaxy phone you get function like S-beam which uses NFC to initiate connection then transfers files via WiFi direct much faster then doing Dropbox upload then download.
Also with Galaxy phone's you get S-Memo which sync's with all the Galaxy devices same like Evernote but with Note devices you get to draw or hand write memo.
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checked a lot of sites and i believe that the note 10.1 2014 wont have nfc. at least not the wifi version

wingswrath said:
checked a lot of sites and i believe that the note 10.1 2014 wont have nfc. at least not the wifi version
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Hmmm..... weird!
NFC is such common thing that I never actively looked for it in the articles, I thought it was given as how every Samsung high end devices from S3 forward got it.
Not having it on tablet would turn one of the best function of touchWiz the S-Beam totally redundant!
Some sites are saying yes and some saying no. Maybe the final product will have it?
The tablet is not out yet for reviews, so we shall see how it pans out.
I'm still on the fence between Sony Xperia Z tablet or Note 10.1, as I'm still waiting for the price of 4G model.