So I rooted a couple of days ago. I havent flashed any roms yet. Now sprint is finally releasing ICS tomorrow and wondering a few things:
1. Should I update to it?
2. Do I loose root(IM guessing yes)?
I kind of want to wait for JellyBean....but
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You will lose root, updating is up to you. If it is FF18 with no changes then I don't see a point to doing the ota.
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If you updated to FF18, 99% chance you already have what the OTA would give you.
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If you updated to FF18, 99% chance you already have what the OTA would give you.
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Im not running ICS now. I have a GB stock on here.
sugewhite said:
Im not running ICS now. I have a GB stock on here.
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Well you have 2 choices, maybe 3. Take the OTA and lose root, having to root it the exact same way you would get rooted FF18 anyways (because you have to flash the full firmware to obtain rooted FF18) or if the OTA isn't the same exact build that was leaked you will have to wait a couple days and still get rooted FF18 the same way is.
We do not know for certain the leak is the same as the OTA though it probably is. From a rooted phone you can flash an unrooted tar and root it or you can flash a rooted tar through ODIN. There is no root exploit that will give you root after you take the OTA you can flash it now or you can flash it later (assuming the leak is the OTA).
Rooted FF18 = Taking the OTA is irrelevant in all eventuality.
Has anyone tried the temp unroot and ota root keeper options in superuser?
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cheyne1 said:
Has anyone tried the temp unroot and ota root keeper options in superuser?
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Well if I understand what you are asking, it's late here so I might not. But I don't think anyone can try that yet as the OTA has not happened( few more hours to go I think) Should start to see it roll out here pretty quick and I would imagine someone may try doing just that.
I would expect a few changes in the OTA since FF18 came out 3 weeks ago. If it happens like the last OTA update, the official will be rooted soon and packed into a tar file that we can flash with Odin anytime we want or we can use it to go to stock rooted ICS. If you want to pass and wait for jelly bean, that could take awhile. You would have to update to the ICS update before you could get the next OTA.
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Ok so I'm currently on Gingerbread 2.3.6. My phone is rooted. I AM NOT USING ANY SORT OF ROM. I am on the stock T-mobile rom.
The only programs I have installed on it are Titanium backup. I have performed a backup using nandroid as well as TB.
My question to you all is: Is it safe to update to the OFFICIAL ICS when T-Mo rolls out with it on June 11th?
If so, do I have to unroot? Or can I just run the update when I hook up my phone and open KIES?
Help!
If you're running the stock ROM, you should be able to update without issue. You will almost certainly lose root, though. I'm hoping it only takes a day or so for someone to bang out a rooted, deodexed, etc. stock ICS ROM once the update is released.
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If you're running the stock ROM, you should be able to update without issue. You will almost certainly lose root, though. I'm hoping it only takes a day or so for someone to bang out a rooted, deodexed, etc. stock ICS ROM once the update is released.
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I hope so too man. At last, T-Mo rolls out the update.
When I plug into KIES, I have another random update but I'm not going to do install it until June 12th.
solutioni9e said:
Ok so I'm currently on Gingerbread 2.3.6. My phone is rooted. I AM NOT USING ANY SORT OF ROM. I am on the stock T-mobile rom.
The only programs I have installed on it are Titanium backup. I have performed a backup using nandroid as well as TB.
My question to you all is: Is it safe to update to the OFFICIAL ICS when T-Mo rolls out with it on June 11th?
If so, do I have to unroot? Or can I just run the update when I hook up my phone and open KIES?
Help!
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You may need to flash the stock recovery via odin if you have CWM installed to update to ics
solutioni9e said:
I hope so too man. At last, T-Mo rolls out the update.
When I plug into KIES, I have another random update but I'm not going to do install it until June 12th.
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Install that lastest update b4 u update to ics. The update b4 ics is to prevent your phone from bricking when going thru the update process to ics.
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Install that lastest update b4 u update to ics. The update b4 ics is to prevent your phone from bricking when going thru the update process to ics.
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Ok but will I need to revert back to anything? Like i said in my original post, I havent loaded any custom ROMS. I've only rooted the phone via ODIN.
It is okay to be rooted, but what Mr Knitty is asking is are you on the UVLDE build of gingerbread or the KL1? You need to be on the newer, updated UVLDE.
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It is okay to be rooted, but what Mr Knitty is asking is are you on the UVLDE build of gingerbread or the KL1? You need to be on the newer, updated UVLDE.
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Ok I just checked my phone settings , I am on:
Gingerbread.UVKL1
and the kernal version is 2.6.35.11
and the baseband version is:
t989UVKL1
So what can I do now?
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Ok I just checked my phone settings , I am on:
Gingerbread.UVKL1
and the kernal version is 2.6.35.11
and the baseband version is:
t989UVKL1
So what can I do now?
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Install kies on the pc, plug your phone in, and accept the update. Im not positive, but i think you need to be on stock recovery too.
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what exactly happens when you lose root? is it JUST that apps like titaniumbackup won't function as they won't have root access?
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what exactly happens when you lose root? is it JUST that apps like titaniumbackup won't function as they won't have root access?
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Yes. You will lose root access
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grawkiller73 said:
Install kies on the pc, plug your phone in, and accept the update. Im not positive, but i think you need to be on stock recovery too.
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Alright , I'll give it a go once I get home.
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Ok but will I need to revert back to anything? Like i said in my original post, I havent loaded any custom ROMS. I've only rooted the phone via ODIN.
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I tried connecting my phone to Kies after rooting and it says that a firmware update isn't supported on my device. In order for me to do anything in that regard, I'd have to unroot and then upgrade. If I were you, I'd just wait until Tmo pushes out the ICS update and when someone puts the rooted version out just install it. It will save you the trouble of having to unroot and root again just to get what your phone is already capable of getting via root.
Is there a thread for upgrading from a modded rom, like Juggernaut? Searched, but then again my eyes aren't the greatest. If I need the UVLDE update, how would I go about not bricking during such process? Sorry to intrude, just thought this was the closest thread to ask.
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Is there a thread for upgrading from a modded rom, like Juggernaut? Searched, but then again my eyes aren't the greatest. If I need the UVLDE update, how would I go about not bricking during such process? Sorry to intrude, just thought this was the closest thread to ask.
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Theres a thread dedicated specifically to flashing the update. That thread covers every possible scenario. Look for the words flash, UVLDE, how to, and update in the titile. Its plain as day.
I think I got answer on my question in here.....
I didn't have to change back to stock recovery to update or unroot.
If on stock just flash the root file again through Odin and your good to go.
If your on a custom GB ROM. Just flash through Odin instead of Kies. Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1682955
Tmobile T989UVLDE
If coming from a leaked custom ICS ROM. I would use the super wipe and cache wipe. Then flash through Odin.
Of course back up everything with your preferred method.
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Wait, so this flashes updated stock, but updated? I would lose my current rom setup?
*EDIT*-Nevermind, found what I was looking for. Just going to go back to stock, and wait it out.
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dont worry
My phone its rooted just stock just to be able to use good apps like titanium addfree etc etc and when i update laat week did not gave me a problem so im thinking if u have stock rom just rooted i dont see a problem plus everyone here at xda wont let u down...trust me
What I would do, is just wait like 2 or 3 more days so someone can come out with a completely stock ICS. That way you don't have to worry about losing root
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Hi Im new to XDA and I have the Epic 4g touch, now I just saw that Sprint is finally releasing the ICS update on July 12th and I was wondering if there is a way to root my phone after the update WITHOUT losing any data. Or should I root the phone before the update on gingerbread but would I be able to update to ICS with root still intact?
Root now... Then wait for a dev to post a rooted/debloated version of the OTA.
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SouthPhilly said:
Root now... Then wait for a dev to post a rooted/debloated version of the OTA.
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^^^What he said :thumbup:
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Thanks Southphilly, is there any root out there that is the best without bricking and offers OTA updates?
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Thanks Southphilly, is there any root out there that is the best without bricking and offers OTA updates?
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As long as you don't apply a rom or remove any bloatware you'll get the ota, and when you accept, you'll lose root.
Thought apparently there's an app called ota root keeper or something along those lines in the market that'll alow you to keep root
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Great Advice Thanks
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I had the same question. Thanks for the heads-up.
Im digging the new xda theme!
If you just want stock + root you can get sfhub's Odin one click NODATA package in the Dev forum. Based on the screenshot from AC this is the build that is going to be pushed by OTA.
And for people thinking that they may pack something else in - any change usually requires a new RDF. No new rdf means it's 99.9999% the same that we already have. So no need to wait for OTA either IMHO.
So just to clarify, if I download the one click from odin without data restore on gingerbread the dev team will have a OTA update for this version with root access still intact? And how will I know that they released the OTA update and how to download it?
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If you just want stock + root you can get sfhub's Odin one click NODATA package in the Dev forum. Based on the screenshot from AC this is the build that is going to be pushed by OTA.
And for people thinking that they may pack something else in - any change usually requires a new RDF. No new rdf means it's 99.9999% the same that we already have. So no need to wait for OTA either IMHO.
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Which source would you recommend I have EL29 right now, but I want FF18 rooted, should I go with FF11 root right now?
AKush1279 said:
Which source would you recommend I have EL29 right now, but I want FF18 rooted, should I go with FF11 root right now?
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Go with FF18, it's the official build release anyway.
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Which source would you recommend I have EL29 right now, but I want FF18 rooted, should I go with FF11 root right now?
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FF18
Here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
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Working on possibly having a BT hot-spot suluton.
Im usually on hardware side on the these of thing that was close to want I was needed. Tried an search, that was close to want I, but I feel a nudge in the right direction would be appreciated.
Can I still receive OTA updates while rooted and custom recovery? I ask because I am not getting the notification people are talking about. I tried unrooting and it still says I'm up to date. I have TWRP recovery. U would like to receive OTAs at least until Jellybean comes out, then I'll go custom. I'm coming from a Samsung Vibrant that I was really used to updating and it seems like some things have changed since then.
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Can I still receive OTA updates while rooted and custom recovery? I ask because I am not getting the notification people are talking about. I tried unrooting and it still says I'm up to date. I have TWRP recovery. U would like to receive OTAs at least until Jellybean comes out, then I'll go custom. I'm coming from a Samsung Vibrant that I was really used to updating and it seems like some things have changed since then.
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Do you have custom rom? On custom roms there is no notification about OTA updates.
I just made a guide that might help you for stock rooted roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842142
It will take you the Kies route to get your update. I also did not receive a notification.
I do not have a custom Rom. I am using the stock, root injected Rom and TWRP. I have the original recovery of I need it and OTA root keeper. I thawed out all of my frozen bloatware apps, so I should be fairly straight, besides root and recovery.
Also curious if I flash Wildchild's deodexed stock OTA update, would I still be able to get notifications or does that classify as "custom"since it's deodexed?
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I just made a guide that might help you for stock rooted roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842142
It will take you the Kies route to get your update. I also did not receive a notification.
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I assume your guide method will trip the flash counter and I use Triangle away to resolve that? I used the no trip method to get root the first time, that's why I ask about Wildchild's deodexed version because I have flashable one downloaded already if all is well with future OTAs.
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I assume your guide method will trip the flash counter and I use Triangle away to resolve that? I used the no trip method to get root the first time, that's why I ask about Wildchild's deodexed version because I have flashable one downloaded already if all is well with future OTAs.
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Yes, on my guide you will trip the flash counter when you install the custom recovery again in ODIN. But like you said, triangle away and your good.
Where are you located? OTAs are generally sent out in waves, by region i think. Just may not be pushed to your area yet.
And if you are rooted, you can download the updated but it will fail at install.
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Where are you located? OTAs are generally sent out in waves, by region i think. Just may not be pushed to your area yet.
And if you are rooted, you can download the updated but it will fail at install.
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I'm on the west coast of the U.S. I'm sure I'm not in the wave yet, but I'm impatient (as it seems like most of us in these forums are) and I'm going to flash the deodexed version... now. Thanks for your quick replies and I'm keeping cybrnook's guide for later reference just in case.
Okay, so I flash that root injected OTA update and new modem with no flash counter trip, but now my device status is modified. Can I get future OTA notifications?
I am rooted with cwm and wicked rom v2. I got the notification and was able to download it however when it rebooted and went into cwm recovery and it says aborted and failed.
So I think if you have a custom recovery you will not be able to do ota updates but might be possible for Kies update never tried Kies so not sure
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As long as you are on a stock based rom and the ota componets are intact, you should get notified if there is an update.
The update will fail though so you have to either get it as a custom rom or update via kies or odin.
Most people say it fails because of root, but I think it can also fail due to either a custom recovery and/or having a deodexed rom. (Not 100% about that last one though)
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DocHoliday77 said:
As long as you are on a stock based rom and the ota componets are intact, you should get notified if there is an update.
The update will fail though so you have to either get it as a custom rom or update via kies or odin.
Most people say it fails because of root, but I think it can also fail due to either a custom recovery and/or having a deodexed rom. (Not 100% about that last one though)
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This +1 (fails due to custom recovery I believe)
Hi All,
I just recently got my gs3 and have already rooted it.
I am still running stock rom with the latest update. I have use titanium backup to freeze a few apps but other than that I havent done much.
I just heard from a friend that the gs3 are recieving their 4.1 official jellybean update soon. If i am on Stock and Rooted with a few apps frozen, is it possible for me to get the ota update. If it isnt possible please say. If it is possible but there are some drawback like unroot or lost apps, please mention that aswell. Also if there is a possibility of flashing the updated 4.1 stock rom directly to my phone using cwm, please let me know. Thanks For the help!
I would unfreeze everything before trying to update (there's Batch defrost in TiBu,i think). As for root, have to wait until someone figures it out for 4.1, just like any new version.
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I would unfreeze everything before trying to update (there's Batch defrost in TiBu,i think). As for root, have to wait until someone figures it out for 4.1, just like any new version.
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Thanks for the reply but I wanted a more detailed answer
You should be able to get the update, just unfreeze everything. I received an update on an older device when it was rooted. But, because it was a newer version of Android it didn't root in the same manner as before.
I've made versions of the last two OTAs that can be installed through CWM without losing root and I'm confident I or someone else will do the same shortly after the JB OTA is released. I'm also confident full versions of the ROM installable through CWM will be available shortly thereafter.
I wouldn't worry about rooting LH9 or freezing apps, or even installing a custom ROM. Worse case you have to wait a few days to install JB.
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I've made versions of the last two OTAs that can be installed through CWM without losing root and I'm confident I or someone else will do the same shortly after the JB OTA is released. I'm also confident full versions of the ROM installable through CWM will be available shortly thereafter.
I wouldn't worry about rooting LH9 or freezing apps, or even installing a custom ROM. Worse case you have to wait a few days to install JB.
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Thanks very much for the responce, I fell preety good that I dont have to unroot or anything. And yea, I can wait a couple of days, so its all good!
do you know if the official JB update has come to Rogers in Canada?
If it has, there would already be a couple dozen threads on it here.
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I've made versions of the last two OTAs that can be installed through CWM without losing root and I'm confident I or someone else will do the same shortly after the JB OTA is released. I'm also confident full versions of the ROM installable through CWM will be available shortly thereafter.
I wouldn't worry about rooting LH9 or freezing apps, or even installing a custom ROM. Worse case you have to wait a few days to install JB.
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Could you link me to the threads for those, please?
My phone is rooted and keeps trying to download and install the updated, but CWM keeps denying it.
Thanks.
Majin Kaioh said:
Could you link me to the threads for those, please?
My phone is rooted and keeps trying to download and install the updated, but CWM keeps denying it.
Thanks.
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The LH9 OTA is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31802808
The easiest way to apply it is to download all the files in the PIECES section and flash them all in recovery before you reboot. Make sure you flash the kernel after the ROM. If you do it that way, you don't need to worry about getting to unmodified LG1 first.
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So i have ics rooted with the snapdragon program. JB is coming out soon so if I am rooted and I get the update what will happen to my root? If the root will go away what is another option to upgrade to Stock JB and also have root?
There are various threads on this topic. You will lose root if you upgrade. You can always root again afterwards. Our you can use rootkeeper. But I'm not sure if it will work.
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You will need to return phone to stock rom when update is released. Root might not be an issue but bloat will be required.
Don't worry about losing root. As soon as it's released there will be instructions on how to root. Devs rule!
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You will need to return phone to stock rom when update is released. Root might not be an issue but bloat will be required.
Don't worry about losing root. As soon as it's released there will be instructions on how to root. Devs rule!
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I am already on stock and all my bloat is there nothing has been frozen, but otherwise u are saying root will remain? and also if i upgrade with the root can i get the phone bricked and will i loose any of my data?
When update is released back up your data to sdcard, remove card, run update via kies (I assume as this was the way my s2 skyrocket received updates) and then root again. Getting root back will not be an issue. We are still a week or 2 away... until then sit tight
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