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[SOLVED]"phone storage getting low"

Hi,
I run Leedroid HD V3.3.3. (Android 2.3.3), with Data++ so I am S-off have reformatted my NAND memory (CM7 Hboot I think) and 1GB EXT partition on my SD card.
So the point is, I should have more then enough space for apps and stuff. But I keep getting the message "phone is getting low on storage". When I go to "settings ->manage application". I see 267MB used, only 20MB free.
But when I add the apps I have installed, there is no way I have 267MB worth of apps installed...
I already tried clearing cache partition in recovery mode. And also tried to clear browser cache and history.
I searched google and found a lot of people with similar problems, but no real fix anywhere...
Can someone help please?
Grtz

Download diskusage app and check. Your app data is on /data so it is not that hard to fill /data partition on CM7R2. I have roughly 50mb free.

So how can I fix this then?

You can also check via Titanium Backup menu (app usage or sth like this), the best method is changing version of hboot (if Your ROM support other hboot!) or delete items which You don't use, move some apps to SD (if You use ROM in which we can move apps) with APP2SD app

swimon said:
Hi,
I run Leedroid HD V3.3.3. (Android 2.3.3), with Data++ so I am S-off have reformatted my NAND memory (CM7 Hboot I think) and 1GB EXT partition on my SD card.
So the point is, I should have more then enough space for apps and stuff. But I keep getting the message "phone is getting low on storage". When I go to "settings ->manage application". I see 267MB used, only 20MB free.
But when I add the apps I have installed, there is no way I have 267MB worth of apps installed...
I already tried clearing cache partition in recovery mode. And also tried to clear browser cache and history.
I searched google and found a lot of people with similar problems, but no real fix anywhere...
Can someone help please?
Grtz
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have you read through all of the FAQ for that rom, i found it very useful
it's likely you're running low because of dalvik cache on nand by default, you can move it to sd via a zip from that post. I used to run that rom, had plenty of space with cm7 hboot and dalvik on sd.
g1b50n said:
You can also check via Titanium Backup menu (app usage or sth like this), the best method is changing version of hboot (if Your ROM support other hboot!) or delete items which You don't use, move some apps to SD (if You use ROM in which we can move apps) with APP2SD app
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i agree, deleting unused apps is often the easiest way!
but no, no need to manually 'move to SD' with this rom, keep everything on 'internal', then apps will be moved to the partition by default.
(you can move to sd, but then you're using the FAT32 partition of the card, hence wasting the partition)

Check if you have correctly installed D2SD script.

Probably you have to move dalvik cache to your SD. I have a different Rom but had the same problem, moving dalvik cahce fixed it for me.

thanks for all the replies,
sorry I kinda lost eye of this thread (because it's my brothers phone)
but I will definately try to move the Dalvik to SD, hope that works.
Greetings

try a rom with amarullz's AD2SDX, like Runnymede AIO - by sebastiaan15
before i only had 15 MB free (had to deleting randomly some apps), now 340MB free (same apps installed).
must by s-off and an CM7r2 HBOOT

Moving Dalvik to Cache with the script from Leedroid's topic worked like a charm,
thanks everyone.
Grtz!

[Q] CM 7.1.0 Complete System Lost

Hello everyone,
I had CM 7.1.0 on my Desire for a long time.
I used S2E to move my /app partition and another big partition (dont know name any more and cant look) to my sd-ext and it worked for a long time.
Yesterday my phone said space on the /data partition (150mb) is nearly full (warning on 15mb left) and I moved the partition to sd, too.
It said I should reboot and after the reboot my whole system was gone.
Now I have a stock CM 7.1. The home button didnt work either, I couldnt get back to home or display the task switcher, every other button still worked.
Strangely 4 apps from my previous system remained: Aldiko, Teamviewer, Tetris and little piano. Aldiko even has my whole Ebook Library from the previous system but settings and bookmarks were lost.
But I found out that my whole picture gallery is still there.
My contacts (not synced) were on the phone and now are they lost, too.
In the recovery I tried to mount all partitions, but after every reboot the sd-ext partition was still unmounted. I tried to fix permissions too. Didnt work either.
My English is not the best and I dont know if I made a mistake.
But I really need your help quickly to get back my old system.
Best Regards

If you have a nand backup just restore if from recovery.

If I had one I wouldnt ask this urgently ^^

if you want to keep all your apps and settings, this could be quite difficult.
try:
- reflashing the rom without wipe. i don't know if this will work to be honest, if your data partition has actually been moved and got corrupted, i don't know of a way to recover it.
- if possible install titanium backup, and if it can see your apps back them up, because it would be better to start all over from this point.
if neither of these methods work, then the 'easiest' way is to full wipe and start all over again (you will lose all apps + settings etc. your photos are still there because they're on the FAT32 partition of your sd card).
the problem you had is that you are still on stock hboot, so your small data partition fills up quickly. you shouldnt have to move it to sd, as it runs better/faster from internal nand memory. you had a large part of system partition unused, so so your overall objective should be to s-off and switch to cm7r2 hboot.
in summary from your position i would:
1. (make sure sd card is properly partitioned using gparted, 1-1.5GB maximum ext4 depending on number of apps you have)
2. s-off using revolutionary (think this is possible as your phone is still booting?)
3. change to cm7r2 hboot
4. boot into recovery, format all partitions except sd card (format system, data, sd-ext, cache, dalvik...everything so clean)
5. install rom
6. install S2E if this is your preferred method, just move apps to sd-ext.
7. restore apps if you managed to make a titanium backup
8. (if you start to run out of space again, then use S2E to move dalvik as well)
general guides for revolutionry, changing hboot etc here
in future:
- always backup your contacts to google
- i know it's easy to say this now...but have a nand backup before making big changes like this, and keep a few on your PC for safe keeping (they're stored in sdcard/clockworkmod/backup)

ghtwex moratus
A Big Thank You eddiehk6!
So you think it wasnt my fault, the partition got corrupted?
Strangely my phone space (150mb) on the stock CM 7.1.0 is full.
I would like to start from scratch and try your MildWild ROM the only thing I need very badly are my contacts.
Is there a way to extract them?
Btw I already have Revolutionary S-OFF
Best regards

Daniel2650 said:
A Big Thank You eddiehk6!
So you think it wasnt my fault, the partition got corrupted?
Strangely my phone space (150mb) on the stock CM 7.1.0 is full.
I would like to start from scratch and try your MildWild ROM the only thing I need very badly are my contacts.
Is there a way to extract them?
Btw I already have Revolutionary S-OFF
Best regards
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don't know whose fault, but moving critical data partition sounds like a bad idea anyway...
your phone space can easily fill up because it's so small, 150MB can quickly be taken up by data/dalvik cache. stock hboot is also very wasteful, you probably wouldnt have fun into this problem if you were on cm7r2 hboot.
no idea how to extract contacts out a non-booting rom. if you have an old nandroid backup you could try restoring it to extract contacts from there, that's the only way i can think of. when you sync your contacts with google you'll discover how useful it is for situations like this...
at least you are already s-off so relatively easy from here.
not "my" rom lol, but i like it!
- change to cm7r2 hboot
- full wipe all partitions except sd
- install rom
- read OP for setting up app2sd by default (assuming you have correctly partitioned sd card with gparted or 4ext recovery)
regardless of what ROM you decide, use an app like 'diskusage' to check how all your partitions are being used, very useful for troubleshooting "low space" issues

[Q] SD-card partitioning / storage layout on desire

Dear XDA forum,
since a few roms i always get a "low on storage" warning, even after factory reset and flashing a new rom.
So i'd want to ask for a small summery of what storage there is inside the desire and on the sdcard and how to solve this problem
My sdcard is 16GB class 10. I didnt partition it manually (i think).
according to my desire it has effective 14.2gb.about 2gb are used and 4gb are free? that doesnt sound right.
so i guess its 2 partitions?
could anyone please tell me which mountpoint is which?
and how do i solve the low storage problem? do i need some a2sd script or do i have to more the internal storage to the sdcard?
which mountpoints do the scripts actarlly move?
i have no problem with repartitioning my sdcard. i was given to understand that u usually need a fat32 partition (for apps i guess) and an ext2/3 partition afterwards. some scripts even allow a swap partition at the end of the sdcard to be used as swap space. is that a good idea?
i know its a lot of questions :/ but i hope for some good answers :>
thanks & greetings,
soomon

my advice would be to backup your sd card and (re)partition using gparted, start from scratch because I don't know what your current configuration is, step 5 here
choose ext3/ext4 partition (max ~1.5GB) depending on rom requirements, most support ext4 and should be slightly faster. most roms don't need swap partition.
in simple terms, your space will get taken up by apps (apks), dalvik cache, app cache and app data. most custom roms will automatically move apks to your sd-ext partition. there are various different scripts which move the other bits around. generally it is better to keep app data on internal (/data partition)
regardless of which rom you choose, use an app like 'diskusage' to browse all your partitions, so you can work out where and how all your space is being use.
to maximise space you also need to be s-off and correct hboot for the rom (again should be stated within each rom thread, or search within it)

ok so the first partition on the sdcard will become my sd-ext which will replace the /data partition on the internal storage.
I guess is hould try data2sd then?
with a class 10 it should not get that slow and i get loads of space on that partition.
thanks for your help.

also use links2d,very usefull.....

hi again,
as i see in a terminal emulator by typing "df -h"
my data is 150mb and has 15mb left, so i guess i better moe the whole partition to the sdcard as i'd have to move all the apps to the sdcard anyway sooner or later.
my /system has only 5mb of 250mb left. is that a problem?

soomon said:
hi again,
as i see in a terminal emulator by typing "df -h"
my data is 150mb and has 15mb left, so i guess i better moe the whole partition to the sdcard as i'd have to move all the apps to the sdcard anyway sooner or later.
my /system has only 5mb of 250mb left. is that a problem?
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depends entirely what rom you're running if any, and what scripts it uses. basically you should be able to find some way to install many apps without running out of space (one of the main reasons for rooting in the first place ).
with your current setup, you could try something like link2sd to just move apps and dalvik to sd, see if you have enough space that way. you shouldnt have to manually 'move to sd', keeping them on 'internal' tricks them to sd-ext. (you can use something like 'diskusage' to check they're actually on the sd-ext)
the system partition is meant to be mostly full. free space on /system is wasted space.
you're still on stock hboot, which is why your data partition is so small.
if you install another rom, many of them have a smaller system size, so if you're s-off you can flash a different hboot to repartition your internal memory layout: your system size will reduce to roughly match your rom, and the saved space is converted into extra data space, see alpharev.nl for hboots.
e.g. if your rom system is 140MB, will fit nicely into cm7r2 hboot with 145MB system, and you get 287MB of data instead of 150MB. 287MB can be enough to store app data and dalvik cache if you don't have too many apps.
i refer you to these sets of guides for further reading, should explain a lot more, and better than i have...

thanks eddie,
i'm still s-on and stock hboot, but i use a custom rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766550
i guess the problem is that LBE gues 4 and lookout together need over 22mb of space :/
i'll try link2sd then.
thanks!

hm.. when i try to install link2sd i get "insufficient storage available". that program is not even 1MB in size and i have 15mb of free space on the internal storage.. what can i do?
edit: i'll try to install it at home with an adb tool. maybe i have more luck with that.

follow instructions for a2sd with that rom (scroll down). this will move apps and dalvik to sd-ext automatically. or follow/search the thread for other methods, it's regularly discussed...
[not used link2sd, it should in theory do the same thing, but my advice would be to stick with the instructions as that's the recommended way if you really need/want to install link2sd...uninstall something else to make more space ]

ofc removing apps might help (althrough i only installed 2 or 3). but 15mb should be enough to install a 800kb software
gonna try to install some apps later after running a2sd.
thanks a lot man didnt see that information.

[Q] Some questions

Hello everyone
I finally decided to "unlock" my HTC Desire GSM because I plan to get a new phone in some months time anyway so I thought it's worth the risk.
I managed to s-off the device with Revolutionary, then flash superuser, then flash 4ext recovery to partition my sd-card (ext4 filesystem). Then I flashed the newest radio and installed CM 7.2.0.1 with gapps and finally installed s2e.
I decided to let s2e symlink my app and private app folder. But now they are missing when I start the phone (including s2e itself and google playstore). I goggled it already but haven't found an answer really.
I have to say I use the stock sd-card that came with the desire (it's a class 2).
So my questions are:
Can you experienced users recommend me a ROM that's good concerning speed, battery life, stability or did I choose the perfect ROM already? I don't need all that bloatware that was installed with the stock rom. But I need some space on the memory, so I would need some sort of App2SD.
Also will my class 2 card be fast enough or will it slow down stuff considerably? What filesystem would you recommend for the sd-ext partition? And how can I avoid this "disappearing apps" problem in the future?
And btw can I just install apps with Titanium Backup when changing the ROM or does it mess up stuff?
I hope you people can help me a little with those questions.
This is the first time I'm "unlocking" a phone.

don't worry about 'perfect' rom, because you'll get far too many different answers from different people recommending what's best for them.
try a few roms for yourself to see what you like. CM7 should be solid anyway.
- generally all roms have some sort of app2sd built in with a script already. or you flash a different script, or activate it via terminal commands. reach each rom OP or search each thread for details.
- with CM7, you can use space a little more efficiently by switching to cm7r2 hboot, search for guides.
- your class 2 card may be too slow. i'd recommend keeping app data on internal memory. sd cards are quite cheap nowadays anyway. ext4 should be faster, so stick with it.
- regarding your specific issue with s2e and google play, don't symlink google play, best kept on system partition anyway. don't know why the other apps disappear, they shouldn't. try full wipe, flash cm7r2 hboot as above, flash rom, install s2e and reboot. then restore apps with titanium.
- i've always used titanium backup to backup and restore apps when switching roms, not had a problem. just don't restore system data. if you have problems, try just installing the apps from google play, then restore data only.

eddiehk6 said:
don't worry about 'perfect' rom, because you'll get far too many different answers from different people recommending what's best for them.
try a few roms for yourself to see what you like. CM7 should be solid anyway.
- generally all roms have some sort of app2sd built in with a script already. or you flash a different script, or activate it via terminal commands. reach each rom OP or search each thread for details.
- with CM7, you can use space a little more efficiently by switching to cm7r2 hboot, search for guides.
- your class 2 card may be too slow. i'd recommend keeping app data on internal memory. sd cards are quite cheap nowadays anyway. ext4 should be faster, so stick with it.
- regarding your specific issue with s2e and google play, don't symlink google play, best kept on system partition anyway. don't know why the other apps disappear, they shouldn't. try full wipe, flash cm7r2 hboot as above, flash rom, install s2e and reboot. then restore apps with titanium.
- i've always used titanium backup to backup and restore apps when switching roms, not had a problem. just don't restore system data. if you have problems, try just installing the apps from google play, then restore data only.
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Thanks for your answers.
I still have some questions now though
First, is it right that almost all ROMs have some sort of app2sd but CM7 is not one of them? I read that CM7 has no apps2sd of any sort and that's why I installed s2e in the first place.
Second, maybe there is some advanced mode for s2e or sth but I could only click whether I want to symlink my apps, cache, data etc. as a whole like in this picture:
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I couldn't really choose which apps to symlink and which not to. So google play and s2e apps would be symlinked as well since they didn't come with the ROM I guess.
Also when I plan to flash a new ROM is it necessary/better to format/wipe the system partition as well or do I only have to wipe cache and data? Or will it be wiped by the process of flashing the ROM anyways?

Zergy said:
Thanks for your answers.
I still have some questions now though
First, is it right that almost all ROMs have some sort of app2sd but CM7 is not one of them? I read that CM7 has no apps2sd of any sort and that's why I installed s2e in the first place.
Second, maybe there is some advanced mode for s2e or sth but I could only click whether I want to symlink my apps, cache, data etc. as a whole like in this picture:
I couldn't really choose which apps to symlink and which not to. So google play and s2e apps would be symlinked as well since they didn't come with the ROM I guess.
Also when I plan to flash a new ROM is it necessary/better to format/wipe the system partition as well or do I only have to wipe cache and data? Or will it be wiped by the process of flashing the ROM anyways?
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CM7 doesn't have app2sd. That's what s2e was made for. The majority of roms have some kind of script. Only the really old ones lack such a thing.
S2e doesn't have an "advanced mode".You can symlink one app at a time with Link2sd. Give it a search on the play store.
Before you flash a rom, just do a factory data reset. That will wipe cache, data and sd-ext. Your system will be auto-wiped when you'll install a new rom.

abaaaabbbb63 said:
CM7 doesn't have app2sd. That's what s2e was made for. The majority of roms have some kind of script. Only the really old ones lack such a thing.
S2e doesn't have an "advanced mode".You can symlink one app at a time with Link2sd. Give it a search on the play store.
Before you flash a rom, just do a factory data reset. That will wipe cache, data and sd-ext. Your system will be auto-wiped when you'll install a new rom.
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Will do.
I actually looked and microsdhc cards seem to be really cheap indeed. I didn't know they were THAT cheap. If I buy one would you recommend to get a class 6 or a class 10 one? I heard that class 10 can make problems? Doesn't really matter concerning price, there seem to be class 6 cards that cost more than class 10 cards and the price difference is that small anyway.

Where can i get Data2SDReinstaller.zip?

i have just gotten my hand on a HTC desire over the weekend, with zero knowledge on rooting or android. after installing a few apps, namely FB, gmail, maps, flipboard and whatsapp i was given the "low memory" warning. uh... i have not even installed candy crush yet... so i did some read up on a few sites and straightaway attempted to mod the desire to increase the internal memory.
what i did :
s-off using Revolutionary tool and installed CWM.
partitioned an 8gb class10 card, 2048mb ext3 and the balance FAT32,
CyanogenMod 7.0.2.1 stable release.
Data2SD
to my delight everything work out and i get increased internal memory and i was happily re-installing all the above apps. problem is some of the apps -youtube and facebook, could not be started. after choosing "move to sd" then it can be started and used, albeit a tad laggy. the only issue left is whatsapp, after activation, it went on and on in the "initialising" for a very long time without any sign of it ever getting into working condition, i had to force close it.
i am thinking of repeating the whole process once again, clean install, but based on the read-up about data2sd, if i were to reflash rom on a device that already has data2sd prior, i would need to use Data2SDReinstaller.zip instead of Data2SDinstaller.zip that i have acquired earlier.
after googling up like mad, i still could not find anywhere to download Data2SDReinstaller.zip. hope that anyone who still has this would share it up here. Thanks a lot!

Well done for getting this far on your own! A few things you could do to improve check:
- How did you partition your sd card? Should be done in gparted or 4EXT recovery only, not minitool. Also might as well use ext4, slightly faster than ext3
- Next you should also install cyanogenmod on cm7r2 hboot to maximise your actual internal memory. Currently you're still on stock hboot with 250MB /system and you're only using ~140MB. You can convert this wasted 110MB into extra /data (internal memory), goes from 147MB to 287MB
- I personally don't recommend data2sd. Might the reason you're getting errors. Also you shouldn't need to use 'move to sd' anymore that moves to the fat32 partition not the sd-ext. Use a different script to move apps and dalvik to sd-ext, keep app data on internal.
So try:
- backup everything if you haven't already (titanium backup for apps etc)
- change hboot to cm7r2 using fastboot, search for guides
- (optional) flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- backup and repartition sd card if necessary using 4EXT as above
- full wipe and reinstall ROM again
- use another app/script such as mount2sd, S2E or darktremor A2SD, move apps and dalvik to sd-ext. They do the same thing. You won't necessarily see you're internal memory increase to 'internal + sd-ext' but it's working. Don't 'move to sd' as before, keep them on internal to trick to sd-ext.
- restore apps. Install something like diskusage to check your partitions are working.

eddiehk6 said:
Well done for getting this far on your own! A few things you could do to improve check:
- How did you partition your sd card? Should be done in gparted or 4EXT recovery only, not minitool. Also might as well use ext4, slightly faster than ext3
- Next you should also install cyanogenmod on cm7r2 hboot to maximise your actual internal memory. Currently you're still on stock hboot with 250MB /system and you're only using ~140MB. You can convert this wasted 110MB into extra /data (internal memory), goes from 147MB to 287MB
- I personally don't recommend data2sd. Might the reason you're getting errors. Also you shouldn't need to use 'move to sd' anymore that moves to the fat32 partition not the sd-ext. Use a different script to move apps and dalvik to sd-ext, keep app data on internal.
So try:
- backup everything if you haven't already (titanium backup for apps etc)
- change hboot to cm7r2 using fastboot, search for guides
- (optional) flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- backup and repartition sd card if necessary using 4EXT as above
- full wipe and reinstall ROM again
- use another app/script such as mount2sd, S2E or darktremor A2SD, move apps and dalvik to sd-ext. They do the same thing. You won't necessarily see you're internal memory increase to 'internal + sd-ext' but it's working. Don't 'move to sd' as before, keep them on internal to trick to sd-ext.
- restore apps. Install something like diskusage to check your partitions are working.
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hi eddie, thanks for your pointers!
i used CWM to partition the card earlier on, only to discover that it was partitioned on ext3 with no choice to . prior to data2sd, i have tried link2sd, with the impression that it is similar to S2E & mount2sd. sad to say that after installing apps as listed earlier, the same low memory warning still popped up, so i assumed these script is not what i wanted.
for my next step, i plan on a full wipe and start afresh, thinking of using minitool to hammer the whole card flat on a single, FAT32 partition, and then using Aparted to create an ext4 partition. (downloadable from market, yeah that would mean putting the phone into stock CM firmware first and re-wipe again after that).
i have zero knowledge on linux nor any of my machines running it and i am so used to windows environment, that is the reason i did not start out on using Gparted in the first place, and used CWM's own partitioning tool.. 4ext recovery could be an alternative from what i read, but can 4ext be installed when CWM is already in place?
just to update, found the download for the data2sdreinstaller files, in some sections of xda i forgot which thread but i have it now. i will try on re-doing data2sd first. if the phone still give me issues then next would be doing as what you have suggested. thanks again!

Don't use clockworkmod. It's not that it's a bad recovery generally, but for desire it's not recommended as it tends to not create properly aligned partitions.
Backup sd, delete all partitions and repartition from scratch, use gparted or 4EXT recovery, don't recommend anything else. Now that you're s-off it's quite easy to change recovery, it will simply replace CWM.
gparted is also not that bad once you get the hang of it, I use bootable live cd and personally prefer it as I can see everything. I never used linux either... Use this guide
I've never had any luck with link2sd, never liked it. Yes it's supposed to do the same thing, but the idea of linking seemed a bit odd, maybe just not for me, and you may not have had any luck due to a bad partition. Try the others suggested, move apps and dalvik to sd-ext.
Remember to also change hboot to optimise space further.

eddiehk6 said:
Don't use clockworkmod. It's not that it's a bad recovery generally, but for desire it's not recommended as it tends to not create properly aligned partitions.
Backup sd, delete all partitions and repartition from scratch, use gparted or 4EXT recovery, don't recommend anything else. Now that you're s-off it's quite easy to change recovery, it will simply replace CWM.
gparted is also not that bad once you get the hang of it, I use bootable live cd and personally prefer it as I can see everything. I never used linux either... Use this guide
I've never had any luck with link2sd, never liked it. Yes it's supposed to do the same thing, but the idea of linking seemed a bit odd, maybe just not for me, and you may not have had any luck due to a bad partition. Try the others suggested, move apps and dalvik to sd-ext.
Remember to also change hboot to optimise space further.
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noted with many a thanks. hopefully learning this on Desire would allow me to do the same on some other Android devices in future. Funny to think i am doing this as all these while i am just a plain nokia user with all stock firmware.
the jargons for androids are abit overwhelming for me.

Don't worry, it's all a learning process. For most in the desire forums it was their first android device, like me too.
All of the stuff I've written above, I knew none of that at the start either.
Like anything, the more you read the more you learn. It'll start to make sense sooner or later