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[Q] Fresh vs. CM6 vs. Two Point Two

Hey guys, I am not a noob to flashing roms or anything but I have been on the new Fresh for awhile and I really want to try out a new rom. I have been eyeing CM6 and Myn's Two Point Two. I was just looking for some input of those that are currently running these roms as to why I should switch from fresh?
Thanks

Fresh is a great ROM. There's no real need to switch unless you just want to try something new (which seems to be the case here). CM6 is a fantastic ROM and it's even better when you run it with a >>Snap kernel in Turbo mode. CM6 offers a very slim and stock Android feel. The only bad thing is no 4G (unless you don't care about that). Other things to note about CM6 is that HDMI is not available either. I don't know if they got the FM radio working yet either but, really, who the hell uses FM radio on their EVO? I mean I could see the uses but still.....
Anyway, myn's Warm ROM is *really* nice if you like Sense ROMs. The screen transition animations are kinda trippy at first but you get used to them. I also like how dark the theme is. We're talking pitch black notification bar, black/gray notifications - pair that with a black wallpaper and your phone is super-dark. The font that comes with it is real nice to me but I can see why others wouldn't like it. Thankfully, myn includes the stock fonts in the OP on his thread. I like Warm. It's different (to me anyway). Worth giving a shot.
I'm a flashoholic though. I'll probably switch to something new or old within a matter of hours That's just how it goes. You'll be happy with either Warm or CM6 but if you like Sense-based ROMs give Warm a shot. I think you'll be enlightened.

beatblaster said:
Fresh is a great ROM. There's no real need to switch unless you just want to try something new (which seems to be the case here). CM6 is a fantastic ROM and it's even better when you run it with a >>Snap kernel in Turbo mode. CM6 offers a very slim and stock Android feel. The only bad thing is no 4G (unless you don't care about that). Other things to note about CM6 is that HDMI is not available either. I don't know if they got the FM radio working yet either but, really, who the hell uses FM radio on their EVO? I mean I could see the uses but still.....
Anyway, myn's Warm ROM is *really* nice if you like Sense ROMs. The screen transition animations are kinda trippy at first but you get used to them. I also like how dark the theme is. We're talking pitch black notification bar, black/gray notifications - pair that with a black wallpaper and your phone is super-dark. The font that comes with it is real nice to me but I can see why others wouldn't like it. Thankfully, myn includes the stock fonts in the OP on his thread. I like Warm. It's different (to me anyway). Worth giving a shot.
I'm a flashoholic though. I'll probably switch to something new or old within a matter of hours That's just how it goes. You'll be happy with either Warm or CM6 but if you like Sense-based ROMs give Warm a shot. I think you'll be enlightened.
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Wow, thanks man I wasn't expecting an in-depth explanation like you gave. I really appreciate it, and yeah I am pretty addicted to Sense unfortunately, everyone always bags on it though and says how its bogs down your phone etc. Thats why I was considering trying CM6. Does the Music Widget work for you on Warm? I had read that it wasn't working for some people and that was why I was apprehensive about switching. Also, what kernel would you advise to use with it. I have always been a netarchy guy never really tried out Kings too much.

The Music widget works for me. I've never had a problem with it. As for kernels, I'm with you man - Netarchy FTW! King's kernels are hit or miss for me. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. I don't mean to sound like a **** but I don't have time for hit or miss So, netarchy 4.1.9.1 CFS is working just fine for me at the moment.
As for Sense, I like Sense too although sometimes I miss LauncherPro. Then I move to LauncherPro and then I miss Sense. Go figure. I'm never happy with these things for long. Just keep an eye out for my sig as you wander through the forums. It changes, like, every other freakin day.

haha will do man I appreciate all of your help, in that case im gonna head on my way to the Warm. Just curious though I tried to use the CFS on the Fresh Rom and I was getting boot loops like crazy. What is the difference in BFS and CFS that is the only thing I have never been able to understand with kernels.?

I am using myn's right now and is extremely quick for a sense rom. Battery life is great as well. I can go 16 hours on a charge with 4g always on. Best sense rom I have used to date. I am also a flash-a-holic, LOL.
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squiggie said:
I am using myn's right now and is extremely quick for a sense rom. Battery life is great as well. I can go 16 hours on a charge with 4g always on. Best sense rom I have used to date. I am also a flash-a-holic, LOL.
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What kernel are you running? I am getting ready to flash I just would like to have everything good to go with flash number 1 haha

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haha will do man I appreciate all of your help, in that case im gonna head on my way to the Warm. Just curious though I tried to use the CFS on the Fresh Rom and I was getting boot loops like crazy. What is the difference in BFS and CFS that is the only thing I have never been able to understand with kernels.?
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CFS vs BFS..... they have to do with different CPU schedulers if I understand it correctly. Theoretically, you're supposed to get slightly better performance with BFS but it's been a little buggy on my phone (launch day, 002 hardware) and what's performance without stability? CFS works just as fine but, honestly, you're going to have to search for this answer on your own. King's kernel threads are where I found a really good explanation of the differences between the two and I remember it's how I decided CFS was probably best for me just for the life of me I can't remember what was said now that I think about it. Not all EVO's are created equal. For some, CFS rocks and for others it sucks. Same goes for BFS. Just try both and see how it goes. I'd start with CFS if I were you.
Sorry I couldn't give you a better answer! That's not usually my style

Well I appreciate all your help man, its not every member that is willing to give an in-depth response. Very rarely do you see that. So thanks a million for that man.

No problem. Just doing my part to pay it forward.

i just flashed a few roms tonight i have been using fresh but wanted to try a new one ive tried calks 2 virus roms and now warm i personally like it like a previous post its real snappy and my set cpu isnt even installed on my phone kings bfs 9 seems to work the best for me ive tried other roms with other kernels mixed and matched but im stuck on kings

What do you like better about Warm over Fresh?
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You just happened to mention the only three roms that I have ran for long lengths of time.
CyanogenMod:
I ran CM6 the longest and it is a very lean and snappy rom - it also got me hooked on LauncherPro. I really loved the customization ability of CM6 and it was a pleasant change from SenseUI. Also one of the biggest factors was it was the first Rom that I used with FPS unlocked. This is the only rom I used SetCPU with and everything ran stable and quick.
Having said that...
I found myself missing some sense widgets (LauncherPro paid version really addresses this but there is a smoothness in the sense widgets that it is missing). Also there is the issue with 4G and some quirkiness I experienced with CM6.
Fresh 3.2 and 3.3:
I flashed Fresh 3.2 and fell back in love with Sense. The new HTC kernel 11 came out and the FPS cap was gone (Fresh 3.3 I think). There was much I had missed from Sense - it is refined and just feels complete with everything (4G, camera, etc...) working properly. I can't hit the quadrant scores that I could on CM6 but I realized that I no longer cared about that. The rom was smooth and snappy. It did everything that I wanted it to.
Myn's Warm Two.Two:
I am currently on Myn's Warm 2.2 with HTC #11 and I'm loving it. For me, it's just about the looks of this thing. It's sleek and snappy with sort of a minimalist look. It retains the functionality of sense with a completely custom look and feel. The black themed keyboard fits so well with it - I really think HTC would have been better off with this design.
Conclusion:
Your real decision is do you prefer AOSP or Sense. I personally find myself enjoying the functionality of Sense more - however, I can totally see where others love AOSP. I love them both - but prefer the refinement of Sense and it is plenty smooth and snappy for me.
AOSP - CyanogenMod
Sense (stock look) - Fresh
Sense (custom look) - Myn's Warm
My Perfect Rom - SenseUI (including widgets) with LauncherPro launcher. Unfortunately for me, this doesn't exist yet
Note:
I know battery life is a hot topic and influences the rom and kernel that people select. I often wonder if it is hardware or application related because I have seen 24+ hour battery life from each of these roms/kernels. Some may have been a little better but the difference was negligible.
I don't really consider myself a heavy user - but not a light one either. Maybe I have just been lucky so far. I generally put my phone on charge every night (I've missed a night here or there) and I have NEVER gotten below 15% battery life - even camping for two days in airplane mode)

[Q] Best Dinc ROM for (stable and battery life)

Hey guys, just wondering what the most stable (fewest bugs) ROM available right now is. I am also wanting to extentd my battery life. I have a rooted stock 2.2 SLCD Dinc. I know that some things work differently on the SLCD versions than on the AMOLED versions.
I have recently come from an eris and had a great support group on the eris xda section. Since the eris has been around a lot longer than the Dinc it was easy to tell what ROM's were widley used due the activity on that thread. It is not as easy in the Dinc threads because they are so even in numbers.
Thanks for any advice!

You will get a better response in the Q&A forum.

prob skyraider
i love the true vanilla roms like ruby and CM but im not sure if you would consider them 100% stable and i know theres been problems with the SLCD screens

as far as stability.. the Virtuous rom is basically the stock rom with a few user friendly options to tweak things.

I have had the best experience with skyraider's roms, I like the CM6.1 RC's but always get better battery life with skyraider.

JaydenR said:
You will get a better response in the Q&A forum.
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Sorry about that, how do I move this to that forum?

By posting it in the q&a section
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Try IncRom. Battery life is outstanding

Myn's Warm RLS 3 is the best I've ever used. It is pristine. 2 days of battery life, no FC's, awesome speed.

Thank you for all of the suggestions. I am reading about all of them and realy wrestling with which one to try...

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Myn's Warm RLS 3 is the best I've ever used. It is pristine. 2 days of battery life, no FC's, awesome speed.
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what kernel are you using? im on ziggys but theres no way i could ever get 2 days out of my battery with low to moderate use

uninc4709 said:
what kernel are you using? im on ziggys but theres no way i could ever get 2 days out of my battery with low to moderate use
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2.32.17 stock kernel. Seems to be really nice.
Special note though, the use of games will drain that sucker like a vampire victim.

Fretless said:
2.32.17 stock kernel. Seems to be really nice.
Special note though, the use of games will drain that sucker like a vampire victim.
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Yeah I agree with you on that. I'm using Virtuous 3.1 which comes with the new htc kernel and it's blown my mind on battery life and charging times.

The cool thing about roms is the ability to backup and install brand new ones with no risk of really messing anything up. Try them all and find out which you like best. I try a new rom everyday practically... I'm on Myn's right now but I'm probably about to go back to rEVOlution... or Incdoes' Desire Z.... The choices...

truegrass said:
Thank you for all of the suggestions. I am reading about all of them and realy wrestling with which one to try...
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Don't sweat over which one to go with, try them all and then decide for yourself. Once you try one or two you will become hooked and you'll be changing rom's on a daily basis and your girlfriend will be yelling at you because you're always messing with your phone....
...everyone has that problem, right?

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Don't sweat over which one to go with, try them all and then decide for yourself. Once you try one or two you will become hooked and you'll be changing rom's on a daily basis and your girlfriend will be yelling at you because you're always messing with your phone....
...everyone has that problem, right?
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+1 I CONSTANTLY get yelled at. ;-)

localceleb said:
Don't sweat over which one to go with, try them all and then decide for yourself. Once you try one or two you will become hooked and you'll be changing rom's on a daily basis and your girlfriend will be yelling at you because you're always messing with your phone....
...everyone has that problem, right?
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HAHA, yes! I thought I was really the only one. I was like, baby, you're being stupid, no one else cares.... guess I was wrong. It used to be changing phones all the time, but once I got an incredible, I haven't had the desire to change hardware, just software...
Glad I'm not the only one, kinda makes me feel more like a man now.

gfs and rom flashing
man, same here....i think at 11pm no one is going to call me and i can finally flash the rom i've been waiting all day to flash, but boom! gf calls and im like damn. lol. then i spend another hour trying to make it look like how it was before i flashed, ex: download the apps (i still have learned how to use titanium backup to restore the apps), put icons in their places, login all the apps, setup emails, etc....and by the end of the week, new version of a different rom is out and i wanna flash that now.

My wife WANTS an incredible, but she HATES my phone. Shes always saying "Why cant you just PICK ONE and GO WITH IT. Im SO TIRED of your LOVE AFFAIR with your PHONE!"
Shes grown to tolerate it over the year. Kinda.
But back on topic, the ones i tried and liked so far have been
Sense: Uncommon Sense, Myn's Warm, and anything with hey its lou
AOSP: Cyanogen is great on battery, Ruby is nice and smooth, and I've liked the stuff from IncDoes.

To be honest, I don't think that the ROM affects your battery life that greatly. The kernel and what applications your running has a much greater effect. For example, I found that I got the best battery life with either an AOSP ROM, or a Sense ROM with Rosie removed (keeping all the other parts of Sense intact, just replacing Rosie with ADW.Launcher or LauncherPro). Also, LiveWallpapers destroyed my battery.
That said, stability is definitely affected by your ROM. SkyRaider seemed okay, but I had my phone wipe itself one morning, which someone else confirmed as being an issue. My personal best experience has been with Redemptive rEVOlution. Great theme, not much bloat, and nearly bugfree.

Been out of the game for a while. Hoping for some discussion.

Hey guys running miui and haven't been keeping up on all the roms as of late.
Just wanted to see if anyone would like to recommend any new roms and kernels to try out.
Big things im looking for is speed,stability, and battery life. Also the look of the rom.
4g isn't as important but would be nice though battery life is really important though can't stress that enough.
And about kernals could someone explain the main differences totally lost on those. Like the havs and cuts and what not.
So any suggestions?
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guess i posted in the wrong section or something......just looking for some friendly advice.

thorpe24 said:
Hey guys running miui and haven't been keeping up on all the roms as of late.
Just wanted to see if anyone would like to recommend any new roms and kernels to try out.
Big things im looking for is speed,stability, and battery life. Also the look of the rom.
4g isn't as important but would be nice though battery life is really important though can't stress that enough.
And about kernals could someone explain the main differences totally lost on those. Like the havs and cuts and what not.
So any suggestions?
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You're in the right place, people aren't just replying. But anyways...to the point
Sense rom- Mikfroyo, Myn's Warm 2.2, Azrael, Evio, are the talk from what I hear, all offer good battery life, and performance. All have 4g, as being a sense rom
AOSP- Personally I recommend CM7 Nightlies, android 2.3 You can also get the nightly version w/ wimax, based off build 24.
Kernels:
Savaged zen HAVS CFS+ works well for me giving me
HAVS- basically has a "preset" setcpu installed to regulate battery voltages
NO HAVS ^ none of that
SBC -superior battery charger, trickle charges your battery to get the "full 100%" can damage your battery, use at your own risk, and can cause the phone to lag
CFS- a fair scheduler to moderately disperse, well rounded
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894880 <- all ya need to know on kernels. I hope this helps.
Edit: http://mirror.munkibizness.com/ link to the savaged zen kernels. Also, give a kernel 2 or 3 days to "set in" for you phone to get used to it. Won't see a change right off the bat.

Thanks Alot Man, appreciate it.

Anytime man. Let me know if there's anything else I can help ya' with.

What version of MIUI are you on? I've been running MIUI since the beginning of November, I really can't use anything else. Nothing compares.

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What version of MIUI are you on? I've been running MIUI since the beginning of November, I really can't use anything else. Nothing compares.
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i'm running 1.1.28 and having alot of stability and force close problems hang ups freezes etc. it's really annoying and while i love the look, which is basically prettier iphone with widgets. wish folders were as easy as ios though a little annoying on here so i haven't organized my apps since i had to reinstall all my apps.
i'm really just looking for the best battery life first, then stability/speed. and i'm so low on time to test stuff. working for a startup that just got funded so we are in overdrive trying to do the work of 20 odd people with just 4 or 5

Did you run calk's format all script before flashing? I'm on 1.1.28 as well and it has been more stable for me than any ROM i've ever tried. Not a single force close or reboot, it doesn't hang, and my battery can last two full days. Also have you tried any different kernels? For folders I use SiMi Folder Widget, it's very easy to organize and it looks great.

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Did you run calk's format all script before flashing? I'm on 1.1.28 as well and it has been more stable for me than any ROM i've ever tried. Not a single force close or reboot, it doesn't hang, and my battery can last two full days. Also have you tried any different kernels? For folders I use SiMi Folder Widget, it's very easy to organize and it looks great.
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yes i did interested in your setup it's nice what do you use

Well like I said, I'm on MIUI 1.1.28 with the kernel that it comes with, LauncherPro Plus, SiMi Folder and SiMi Clock. All of the icons are part of DreamLyfe icon packs. I use Agenda Widget and System info Widget on one page and then Beautiful Weather and Pandora widgets on the other. That's pretty much it, I like to keep things nice an simple.

[Q] Looking for a new ROM

Hello peoples, Im looking for new ROM. One that has great batt life, one that will always get sms and mms. Any suggestions? I like sense ROM's and all the goodies that come with them. Also one that I can add my own touch to.

Stickies exist for a reason
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245

Yea I know stickes are there, but I want some first hand advice. Not something that was put together over time.

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Yea I know stickes are there, but I want some first hand advice. Not something that was put together over time.
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In that case, the search feature exists for a reason.
**LINK**
Edit: By the way, nobody can tell you what ROM is the best. There are a plethora of ROMs out there. Half the fun of having a rooted phone is to get flash happy with various ROMs. You need to try out different ROM/kernel combinations and find which one has the features you want with the performance and battery sustainability you need. My setup works amazingly well for me. But I've seen people who have the exact same setup and have crap battery life, bugs in their system, or just don't like the UI. It's all user preference. Get flash happy until you find one that works best for you and your style.

for sure mikg 2.58 seneless. i use the no lock version. its legit. beast battery better than aosp and fast. using agressive freedom kernel. everything works.

The new FreshEvo 4.3.1 with the standard Freedom kernel has been giving my two Evo's over 12 hours with heavy usage. It runs smooth as "buddah"...
But it is a personal choice. Fresh is a Sense ROM, which may or may not be to your taste.

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for sure mikg 2.58 seneless. i use the no lock version. its legit. beast battery better than aosp and fast. using agressive freedom kernel. everything works.
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Really? I love my miui setup. It gets a full day from wake up to time I go to bed. I always thought aosp had better battery than sense. I might give Mikg a shot.
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markjc12 said:
Hello peoples, Im looking for new ROM. One that has great batt life, one that will always get sms and mms. Any suggestions? I like sense ROM's and all the goodies that come with them. Also one that I can add my own touch to.
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I run synergy with the carousel mod. has great battery life on my hardware and is the best when it comes to getting text/mms on time. I have tried almost every sense rom that has come out in the past 4 months and keep going back to synergy.

The Blazing Roms team working on FEARDEme and Hybrid really have something sweet going. Granted, they're still in late beta, but if you follow their thread and their site, they really have some great stuff.

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The Blazing Roms team working on FEARDEme and Hybrid really have something sweet going. Granted, they're still in late beta, but if you follow their thread and their site, they really have some great stuff.
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I agree that they are great stuff, I used FEARmede for a while and would still be on it, i just couldnt go without my 4g. If 4g is not a big deal for you then by all means take some of team blazes roms for a ride. Make sure to read the features on all of them, they differ a little from each other.
link to their forum
http://blazing-roms.com/forumdisplay.php/4-EVO-4G

Thank you all for the input and not telling me to search a sticky or that there is this or that for a "reason". You think I havent tried all sorts of ROMs/kernals? I cant tell you how many times I flashed a new ROM/kernal. I was hooked on flashing for a while, damn near had to go to rehab for that shyt. Yes, I know, every phone is different, but I just wanted some first hand advice from my fellow XDA'ers. I really apprecaite the feed back with the replies I got. So thank you all again. Time to get flash happy, woohooo!!!!

try the evo classic v0.0.3 by tommytomatoe one sweet Rom fast as a jackrabbit with a firecracker up his ass and I stay with about 225 RAM with my 7 homesreens full of widgets. and my battery lasts all day I can get 13 or so hrs of screen on time on my 3500 and about 6 or 7 on the stock battery and that's straight screen on almost the entire time cuz I never put my phone down. when I'm not on it all day my 3500 will go 12 plus hrs and be around 75% or so with moderate use but usually I overheat and bootloop b4 my battery dies from playing modern warfare 2 all damn day.

How To Best Put New Life In This Old Device

I've been running a ROM, Bugless Beast, but its started causing trouble lately. I'm thinking of reverting to CM7.2 and was wondering if anyone had good thoughts to improve performance. I'm thinking I may try out the mod EXT4All and perhaps even the script V6 Supercharger. Anyone had good results with these? Would switching to Incredikernel help also? Just figuring out what all I could do before breaking down and simply buying a new phone.... Thanks in advance! Hope someone has been successful in maximizing performance from this device.

just a suggestion but let me just give a plus 1 for updating to the new Tiny CM10.1 rom. it;s really breathed new life into my device. while not everything works perfectly, it is has been pretty stable for me. i have to do without a working video camera and a few other minor bugs but overall it;s been positive.
maybe it;s an illusion but what i find surprising is how long my battery lasts in standby.
plus since going this route, i haven;t had a 2am reboot.
I also have the ext4 mod installed to fix the low 149 mb application space issue(a must do for any Dinc owner as this stupid limit is about the equivalent of the old dos 640k memory limitation)-supposedly since the file system is ext4, its supposed to run things faster as well-i don;t know how to test that.

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just a suggestion but let me just give a plus 1 for updating to the new Tiny CM10.1 rom. it;s really breathed new life into my device. while not everything works perfectly, it is has been pretty stable for me. i have to do without a working video camera and a few other minor bugs but overall it;s been positive.
maybe it;s an illusion but what i find surprising is how long my battery lasts in standby.
plus since going this route, i haven;t had a 2am reboot.
I also have the ext4 mod installed to fix the low 149 mb application space issue(a must do for any Dinc owner as this stupid limit is about the equivalent of the old dos 640k memory limitation)-supposedly since the file system is ext4, its supposed to run things faster as well-i don;t know how to test that.
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tiny's cm 10 (not 10.1) rom with ext4 is just about perfect, if you want something slightly more stable