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W0w. My Bizlink MHL adaptor & Rii mini keyboard has just arrived!

Hi all,
I have just received my BizLink MHL addaptor and my Rii mini Bluethooth keyboard with touchpad from Mobile Fun. I have just connected them all up tried a brief bit of sofa surfing and then I thought I would test out the bluetooth keyboard and MHL by posting this message to you all.
I have just checked on the Mobile Fun website and the MHL adaptor has now just sold out [it was shown as in stock yesterday] but I am guessing that a lot of you will now have your MHL addaptor. As for the the keyboard there are some issues with it, but as these are the first words that I am typing on it, it will take me some time to get use to it. The keyboard has the four cursor keys [up down left right] which are really useful and the touchpad right mouse button acts as the back button.
However before you rush out and buy this key board I am having serious issues with the key board that I will investicate more after I have clicked send on this post. I will provide more details later.
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OK I have now had some time to test the Rii mini keyboard with the MHL adaptor connected up to the TV. Generally it has the potential of being a very positive experience (apart from some bluetooth communication issues with the keyboard -- more about that later). The four cursor keys work very well as they are fully supported by Android and are especially good for editing text and I can easily navigate round the phone and the browser using them. The keyboard it self is too small for serious typing (if you want to do that then I would recommend getting a full size keyboard). The F1 key acts as the menu button and the esc key and the right mouse button both act as the back button. I can't find find any way to access the home button using the keyboard.
The touchpad works perfectly on when using it connected upto a PC but does not work quite so well when connected to the S2. This shows that this must be android issues with the mini keyboard touch pad rather than the Rii device it self. There is no pinch zoom with the touch pad and dragging the screen to scroll using the touch pad and pressing and holding the left mouse button is possible but very awkward.
The phone works best in landscape mode when connected to the tv but does not always go into landscape mode so you have to go and lift the phone up give it a little shake to make it go into landscape. The software keyboard occasionally comes up on the screen when you don't want it to so you have to press the right mouse button to make it go away. I have found a little trick on the stock browser -- pressing shift and one of the cursor key makes it easer to scroll the browser.
The youtube app works the best when connected to the TV as it automatically plays out the video in landscape at full resolution for an HD def video.
I haven't got to the bottom of the reason that is causing reliability issue with s2 MHL and the mini key board, but it looking like it may be interference on the bluetooth connection. The issue shows it self as the auto repeat characters keep appearing when you don't want them to causing the alternate character choice popup from the virtual key board to keep appearing.

I think bluetooth is generally broken on S2
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I just got the Rii Keyboard and it works just fine on my Galaxy Note. The only problem is that i can't find out how to zoom for example in the browser. does anybody have an idea how to do that??? the keyboard is perfekt when you whant to sit on the sofa an connect your phone to the TV an play some games or surf in the internet.

how does it pair with G Note.
I have a Galaxy Note too and thinking about getting one of these keyboards.
What i want to know is, can the Note pair up direct to to the keyboard or do you need to use an otg cable and supplied bt dongle.
Thanks
John.

Google Glass Peripherals BT/USB/WiFi

I have been working with Launchers and Android native apps.
The conversations often turns to the ability to control glass in different ways.
Here we can talk about what we have done, what works and what doesn't.

Works for me
Bluetooth
Paired Bluetooth Peripherals with sideloaded Bluetooth Manager for Glass
http://ddrboxman.github.io/Bluetooth-Manager-for-Glass/
Logitech Keyboard and Mouse MX5000
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Cordless-Desktop-Laser-967558-0403/dp/B000AY5ZIS
MOGA Pro (tested playing SNES emulator)
http://www.amazon.com/Mobile-Gaming-Android-Smartphones-Smartphone-Tablet/dp/B00BTDBSXU
Best of all BlueputDroid with Rooted Note 10.1 (paired Note 10.1 tablet to glass and use tablet to control Glass mouse and keyboard)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=berserker.android.apps.blueputdroid&hl=en
Audio
Hands Free Headset (Micro USB Stereo) OEM EHS49UD0MEBSTD for Samsung Flight (Black)
Got them on Amazon for less then five bucks
USB OTG cable
I hear this works but i have not tried it, would love to hear what others may have done with this

thet1nman said:
I have been working with Launchers and Android native apps.
The conversations often turns to the ability to control glass in different ways.
Here we can talk about what we have done, what works and what doesn't.
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I noted this in a post elsewhere, but it's obviously more appropriate for this conversation.
I've been playing with background services on Glass that listen for a controller application via Bluetooth commands. The main limitation I've come across is the service's need to be a system app to control Glass globally. Inside a tester app within the same package however, the service works pretty well, other than a delay.
The service has other uses other than global control of Glass. The most appealing idea to me would be using the code within an emulator of some sort (GameBoy maybe?) and using your handheld device as a controller. Even more appealing would be the use of gestures for controls, instead of buttons on a touchscreen. Using gestures, you won't have to look down at your phone to see if your pressing the right button.

ShareKM Glass XE16
Wanted to post this up here since it is an amazing why to control Google Glass
There is an android app called ShareKM. It has been abandoned by its developer but there is a small group of people trying to keep it alive. At any rate the point of it is to control and android device from a computer. There is an apk in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52164367 that has made it so I can plug my Google Glass XE16 into a PC over USB and my PCs keyboard and mouse will throw over. So it acts like it sees my Glass as another screen and just walks the mouse and keyboard over!!!!
If your glass is rooted you can use bluetooth or wifi but a direct USB connection really links your PC mouse and keyboard to your glass. It is just like a PC application I love called Synergy. I use synergy to link one keyboard and mouse across a windows box, a Linux box and a Mac box. A three screen computer effect but three different operating systems!
So when I use Glass Launcher i can use ShareKM to interact with my android apps on my glass. Give it a try it is amazing!

OUYA Controller with CM11

How do I use the ouya controller like a mouse? e.g. freely movable d-stick instead of having to scroll left or right through the clickable objects?

My controller works fine on CM11 using the trackpad in the middle as the mouse with the normal tap to click.

Billyvnilly said:
How do I use the ouya controller like a mouse? e.g. freely movable d-stick instead of having to scroll left or right through the clickable objects?
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Id like this as well. My nVidia Shield has this and itd be much better than using the track pad on the controller.

newbyp said:
My controller works fine on CM11 using the trackpad in the middle as the mouse with the normal tap to click.
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really? any settings you changed? right now i am at vanilla cm11, i haven't changed any settings. do i need to disconnect keyboard for it to work? thanks

I only loaded the nightly and the controller overlay zip but nothing else. I just paired it and that was it.

Work fine here too

I think he's talking about using the analog stick, not the trackpad in the middle of the controller. I find the trackpad be very hard to use especially when trying to click and drag. Having the analog stick control the mouse would be great imo

Hi guys, I'm new to posting on here but have been following all over XDA for a while.
The track pad on the stock Ouya controller is very buggy when not running on the stock platform. If you connect the Ouya controller to another Bluetooth device, you will see for yourself the controls become erratic. I was using the track pad on the controller while running CM 11 on my Ouya but found it annoying at best. I have read all over, that if you connect most any 3rd party Bluetooth controller, they will work much better with the Ouya than then stock controller. Personally, I purchased a powered 7-port USB from Amazon, the Amazon basics brand. It has 2 USB 2.0 USB and 5 1.1 USB ports. I can plug in external hard drives, keyboards, USB mouse, and charge my phone while I'm at it. Bluetooth media remotes work well too, check amazon. But they are pricey and can run you more than a decent media keyboard.
As for successfully get the analog stick to control the arrow, it would be great. But I haven't seen it yet. Try a computer mouse. You have a powerful computer at your disposal.
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What is the best Mouse/ keyboard to use with AFTV?

What is the best way to get mouse control on a AFTV? A few apps need a mouse. My AFTV is wired, so the apps on my mobile don't seem to work. Thanks.

Logitech Wireless Touch Keyboard K400 avail on Amazon.

I considered the Logitech, but am now Thinking something smaller (mini keyboard)​

I have a Logitech K700 for the GoogleTV. It works wonderfully, even in CWM.

I just bought a MeLe F10 Deluxe combo remote/keyboard/air-mouse and it's pretty fantastic. I had to do a bit of .kl editing to remap the home button to work, so root came in handy, but other than that the thing is great. I was able to program in all of the important buttons from my TV's IR remote so I was able to ditch that remote entirely. It even surprisingly works in CWM and Rbox's boot loader. Well worth $30.

I got an IPazzPort KP-810-16 5-in-1 (air mouse, back-lighted mini keyboard, learning IR remote). It works so well that I am considering buying their Bluetooth version (for my other FTV) so I don't have to plug a RF dongle in the USB of the FTV

How is the Mouse Controls with the MeLe F10 Deluxe Combo, is it done by moving the remote around in the air?
The IPazzPort KP-810 looks good and small. Is the keyboard not to small to use and hows the mouse control?

Thilly1 said:
How is the Mouse Controls with the MeLe F10 Deluxe Combo, is it done by moving the remote around in the air?
The IPazzPort KP-810 looks good and small. Is the keyboard not to small to use and hows the mouse control?
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Yes, it's motion controlled like a wiimote. Right above the directional pad is the button for left mouse click. You click that button when you want to turn mouse mode on (which also turns the back button into right click), and then when you want to turn it off you can just press any of the directions on the D-pad. It works great if you only need a mouse here or there for navigating certain apps, but I wouldn't exactly try to play games with it. That said, my LG TV came with an airmouse remote when I bought it, and the airmouse on this is so much smoother and useable than that remote that it's not even funny. It works surprisingly well.

What about the Lenovo N5902, as anyone tried it with the Fire TV?

I have a mini bluetooth keyboard with touch screen and mouse button that I got from Amazon. It works well. It is a QQ-Tech model lS11-BT05. I first side loaded the settings app and used it to find the keyboard.

I've tried several wireless keyboard/pads (not all with the Fire TV). Though not perfect, the K400 is the best of the lot.

Thilly1 said:
The IPazzPort KP-810 looks good and small. Is the keyboard not to small to use and hows the mouse control?
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Keyboard is not too small, I think the size is good. I tried other wireless keyboard, either key presses are not registered or key presses got repeated. Those issues don't happen with the IPazzPort and that's why I said it is good. Air mouse control is good too, easy to use

Logitech k400 works great. Best choice imo.

wellersl said:
I've tried several wireless keyboard/pads (not all with the Fire TV). Though not perfect, the K400 is the best of the lot.
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doblecero said:
Logitech k400 works great. Best choice imo.
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Agreed, I have tried many also, k400 is the best, however, I also own
an old logitech revue, the keyboard for it is a k700 keyboard. It is the mac daddy of them all. it has directional and enter keys below the touchpad.
Here is a link to a picture of it. note the directional arrows below the touchpad. much nicer I am only posting this link so you can see a picture of what it is I'm refering to. not for sale or purchase reasons.
http://www.blinq.com/detail/electro...nkTYhtPQrEmVDb04zUKNKID-A-ARB5O5ugaApdX8P8HAQ
I retired my logitech revue after getting my aftv. Since the keyboard does not come with a usb dongle I just used a regular logitech usb nano receiver and used the software from logitech to link the two in windows. I then connected the nano reciever to the aftv where it is "The Best" keyboard in my opinion. If you don't have a dongle then just buy a logitech mouse at the store or order the nano receiver for $12 off amazon.
before you nay say me you better own own one. lol

I own several Logitech Revues. The keyboard is great. I thought it was IR, not Rf but I could be wrong. Good to know I will be able to reuse it. Do they sell them standalone and with bluetooth?
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tekweezle said:
I own several Logitech Revues. The keyboard is great. I thought it was IR, not Rf but I could be wrong. Good to know I will be able to reuse it. Do they sell them standalone and with bluetooth?
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no bluetooth that i"m aware just wireless with usb nano receiver compatible. A logitech nano receiver can allow up to 8 logitech unity compatible devices. you just have to have your own and program it with the logitech unity software.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Unif...r=8-1&keywords=logitech+unifying+usb+receiver
http://support.logitech.com/en_us/software/unifying
I wish I had more of these keyboards.

Sumvision Paradox Touch
Using one of these . nice keyboard with touch panel. The media keys also work (most) which is nice as the play button is enter. I don't usually like touchpads but in thus situation it's fine. I also have a generic. Acer branded off of my revo tested and working.
The Sum vision is Samsung compatible for your info. P
UPDATE just checked media buttons . all work in xbmc including volume. Stop play etc in youtube and the Home button most everywhere. I also would let you know it trips into standby quite quickly to save battery a quick press on connect wakes it up
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sumvision-Paradox-Wireless-SlimKeyboard-Built-In/dp/B005KCGRW8

Can one load a web browser on the FireTV if its rooted etc?
I'd be curious in getting a wireless keyboard/mouse combo.. But I'd also like to be able to use it as a web browser type of device?

Yes, I have chrome sideloaded on my AFS which is not rooted. Works well with a mini keyboard mouse TouchPad combo.
Sent from a Freedompop HTC Evo 4G

tekweezle said:
Yes, I have chrome sideloaded on my AFS which is not rooted. Works well with a mini keyboard mouse TouchPad combo.
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And it works just like it would on a mini pc? Any downsides?
So what keyboard/mouse combo you have?

[Q] Wired USB Mouse / Cursor

Hi,
I tried plugging in a wired, USB mouse in the back of my Fire TV Box... I get nothing on screen. I tried a second mouse.. same result. Does the Fire Tv NOT support a mouse? I searched around online and found conflicting info. The only reason I wanted to use the mouse is to click the big "Start Test" button at the center of the screen in the Speedtest.net app I sideloaded... It can't be reached via the remote.
Thanks!

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Well u can look for aft general tread download download an apk call wukong remote launch the app, it will search for aft in address that's what working for me

My firetv recognized my mouse with no special settings. I just plugged the mouse directly into the USB slot... same for a USB keyboard.
Mouse = old Gateway mouse
Keyboard = cheap Dynex

Did you happen to be on the default launcher when you tried? Since the last three updates the mouse cursor is invisible on the Fire TV launcher, when system menus are on the screen and inside some native Fire TV apps. I don't think the cursor being invisible effects everyone, cause only a few people said they experience the problem when I made a thread about it.It only happens if I use a USB or Bluetooth mouse, but if I use a remote mouse app like Wukong the cursor is visible on the whole system. Try opening an app that was not made for the Fire TV, like Kodi and see if it works, cause my cursor is visible inside all my apps, but if I go to the Fire Launcher it becomes invisible. Its kind of annoying not being able to see the cursor on Fire TV apps, but I have gotten used to it.
To be clear, the mouse still works its just invisible, so its kinda useless because you can't click on system menus, cause you cannot see where the cursor is. As soon as you open an app like Kodi the cursor will reappear.

Thnks everyone for the replies. I had USB debugging turned on in the developer options which knocked out my mouse. Everything is working now.