Using K9 mail v4.011 (newest as of todays date from play store) on Samsung GS3 ICS 4.0.4 running on T-mobile USA network.
I have it Setup for 2 Gmail accts, used K9 automatic setup.
If I go to K9 settings, global, network, background sync, and set this to ANYTHING except never, K9 mail leaves the data connection on constantly, draining the battery and eating bandwidth. No matter wifi or mobile data. the indicator in the top bar is continuous solid SEND/RECEIVE always on. I verified this with Network Manager (also from play store) too.
So I Disable the background sync, and the constant data connection stops, but when I get an email, I never get notified by K9. I have the Gmail app set up also for the same email accounts, and if I have the stock gmail app set to notify me of incoming emails, I get instant push notification of new mail from the gmail app but not the k9 app.
So, I obviously have something not set up correctly for k9 to receive push correctly, but I don't know what I have set wrong? can anyone PLEASE help me?
I'm having the exact same problem. K9 worked great for push e-mail with my Samsung Captivate, but with the Galaxy S3 it works only intermittently (possibly more frustrating than if it didn't work at all).
I tried clearing the data in K9 and re-entering the account info. That seemed to work for a few hours, but now I'm back to no push mail. The GMail app continues to work fine--I'd just go with that, but I like that K9 works with Tasker; GMail does not.
I had this issue too a while back, it was when i was playing with the polling folder options. The only way I could get it back was to uninstall it, and reinstall with the factory settings. I don't have any issues with it receiving push on my S3.
pdk269 said:
I had this issue too a while back, it was when i was playing with the polling folder options. The only way I could get it back was to uninstall it, and reinstall with the factory settings. I don't have any issues with it receiving push on my S3.
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Thanks for the input. I just uninstalled and reinstalled K9, and I'm still having a problem receiving push mail. I guess I'll just have to go with GMail.
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Thanks for the input. I just uninstalled and reinstalled K9, and I'm still having a problem receiving push mail. I guess I'll just have to go with GMail.
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I think the issue might be that you have both GMAIL and K9 pulling the same accounts. Trying setting up one that is not also in the GMAIL app. There may be a delay and K9 doesn't getting push. I seem to remember one time i played around with the incoming/outgoing servers too and had to actually use the POP servers.
Araltd said:
Using K9 mail v4.011 (newest as of todays date from play store) on Samsung GS3 ICS 4.0.4 running on T-mobile USA network.
I have it Setup for 2 Gmail accts, used K9 automatic setup.
If I go to K9 settings, global, network, background sync, and set this to ANYTHING except never, K9 mail leaves the data connection on constantly, draining the battery and eating bandwidth. No matter wifi or mobile data. the indicator in the top bar is continuous solid SEND/RECEIVE always on. I verified this with Network Manager (also from play store) too.
So I Disable the background sync, and the constant data connection stops, but when I get an email, I never get notified by K9. I have the Gmail app set up also for the same email accounts, and if I have the stock gmail app set to notify me of incoming emails, I get instant push notification of new mail from the gmail app but not the k9 app.
So, I obviously have something not set up correctly for k9 to receive push correctly, but I don't know what I have set wrong? can anyone PLEASE help me?
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From what I went thru, you can not use gmail app with K9 at the same time, un-install one or the other. and which ever one you use, do the settings there, btw, the only way I could get K9 to work was use a system uninstall and get rid of the worthless generic gmail app. Up to you, hope this helps, I have 4 email accounts in K9 and it polls correctly.
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From what I went thru, you can not use gmail app with K9 at the same time, un-install one or the other. and which ever one you use, do the settings there, btw, the only way I could get K9 to work was use a system uninstall and get rid of the worthless generic gmail app. Up to you, hope this helps, I have 4 email accounts in K9 and it polls correctly.
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Thanks. I'll try fully uninstalling GMail. Most of the time, I've had it frozen in Titanium Backup, and I've still had the intermittent push failure in K9. I defrosted GMail and used it at the same time as K9 only as a control to test whether K9 was working.
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Hey there everyone, just wanted to see if anyone's experienced the same problems as I have.
So I have 2 email accounts with gmail, one personal and one work account. I've enabled both of these accounts in both the mail app and the gmail app, and set notifications to be true for both accounts in each app.
Whenever a new email is sent however, it doesn't seem like the default mail app sends any notifications. Another thing is that even when I go into the app and force a sync, the icon on Home will only show the unread count for only 1 of the accounts.
I am still rather confused as to whether 'Sync Automatically' has to be turned on along with either WIFI/Mobile Internet to be able to receive notifications? Do you need to have 'Sync Automatically' enabled all the time, or would an active WIFI connection suffice?
Thanks in advance!
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It seems the Gmail App works fine, but not the Mail app regardless of whether only one or both are running... any ideas?
Bumping this up...
Anyone experience any problems with the default mail notifications?
Am I the only one who's disenchanted with the Gmail app on Android? I was hoping it would be better with my Nexus, but nothing has changed.
It doesn't seem like true push. If I set Gmail up as an exchange account in the mail app, it receives my e-mail and notifies me within seconds of sending a test message. The Gmail app randomly notifies me within about 15 minutes or so. Call me anal, but I like to receive my e-mail as soon as possible (sometimes it's important) and I don't see why there's a delay on the official Gmail app.
I know this has been an ongoing issue for some time with Android and my co-worker claims that he's perfectly happy just using the Gmail app, but my experience is that the Email client receives e-mail faster and that's important to me.
I've been using the gmail app for a while on 4 different devices (N1,G2,Sensation,GNex), and I've never noticed more than a couple second lag receiving emails. I have noticed something since 4.0.4 or possibly the latest gmail update. When I mark an email as read on my computer, the notification no longer clears itself on my phone. I have to manually clear it.
It can be strange, and in some cases frustrating. More often than not, my emails come really quick (as they should). There has been a few occurances where an email was delayed by several hours.
And it does seem as though the mail app works better than the gmail app for push email.
Edit: I only use the gmail app, but have used the mail app in the past.
Never had more than a 30 second delay personally.
See, my co-worker swears he doesn't notice a delay either, but I have tested it over and over. When I have notifications on for both the default e-mail client and Gmail, I will get a notification immediately from the e-mail client and nothing from Gmail. More troubling, when I open Gmail, the e-mail is not there yet. It's like it's on periodic check, instead of push.
Currently, I have notifications turned off for the Gmail app and use it to sync everything, then have Gmail set up as an exchange account and only have it pulling in e-mail (no contacts or calendar). It still seems a tad redundant, but its' the only way to ensure that I get my e-mail reliably.
I've not noticed any delay with using the app.
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No delays here either. I relay email from POP3 accounts to Gmail for the push functionality and it works flawlessly.
All good here too. Matches my desktop Gmail timing. Btw I love the Gmail app its the best damn email experience I've ever seen on a phone, I use it constantly.
I can't be the only one having this issue. Is it possible that no one here knows any different simply because they haven't tried it as an exchange account through the regular e-mail app? Again, I have had this issue on pretty much every Android phone I have owned. And I can duplicate it any time.
Would anyone care to add Gmail as an Exchange account through the e-mail app and then send themselves a test message? Let me know if you get it in both apps around the same time. In my case, it shows up instantly in the e-mail app and won't show up for several minutes in the Gmail app unless I push the sync button manually.
i've noticed delays too. really frustrating because i have no idea what can be done about it...
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i've noticed delays too. really frustrating because i have no idea what can be done about it...
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Nothing that I know of, because it only seems to affect a small percentage of users. I can find a few posts on the internet with other users complaining about the same issue, but most people who reply say they have no problem (just like this post). It makes me wonder if I created a completely new Gmail account and tied it to my phone, if I'd get e-mail instantly on that account.
Unfortunately, that's not an option. I've had this address for years.
How long is your delay, less than a minute? I send myself a test email from my corp work email and it comes thru in less than a minute.
RogerPodacter said:
How long is your delay, less than a minute? I send myself a test email from my corp work email and it comes thru in less than a minute.
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The delay varies. Sometimes it's instant, other times it's anywhere from a 5-15 minute delay. I always get the e-mails instantly in the e-mail app when Gmail is set up as an exchange account.
The moral of the story is, it's not reliable. I can never count on getting my e-mail in a timely manner in the Gmail app.
Sign in to the Google Talk application and make sure you're always signed in. I believe that the gTalk-connection is used for push-messages, so if you're signed in into gTalk, push should work.
I also had the delay once, after I restored a backup of the gmail data after a factory reset(actually, yakjuxw -> yakju). I deleted the gmail data and re-configured it. That fixed the problem for me.
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Sign in to the Google Talk application and make sure you're always signed in. I believe that the gTalk-connection is used for push-messages, so if you're signed in into gTalk, push should work.
I also had the delay once, after I restored a backup of the gmail data after a factory reset(actually, yakjuxw -> yakju). I deleted the gmail data and re-configured it. That fixed the problem for me.
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I'm glad you mentioned this. I have the gmail issue (won't ever recieve push email...have to manually sync) AND I cannot sign into GTalk from my phone.
I wish I could fix.
Sorry to revive a dead thread, but was there ever a resolution to this? I'm having the exact same problem on my HTC One X (AT&T).
Gmail or Gtalk delays are due to router (firewall issues). Just forward the necessary Google ports, and you'll be good to go.
tibere86 said:
Gmail or Gtalk delays are due to router (firewall issues). Just forward the necessary Google ports, and you'll be good to go.
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This occurs when I'm connected to AT&T's lte network too
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I am struggling with this issue as well
Me too, lately it's been brutal for me
OK. I need some help PLEASE. I'm trying to migrate to a GS3 from an iPhone 4. My GS3 is stock, t-mobile, and no mods, just downloaded some apps.
OK: I have GMAIL, the "EMAIL" app that was stock, and I added K9 mail. All 3 are configured with my 2 email accounts I use. I have disabled notifications on Gmail and Email, and let notifications on in K9 because K9 was the only one I was able to get to format the emails FIT TO SCREEN - the other 2 wanted me to scroll left and right which seemed really strange to me, and I am use to the way iPhone handles email, which does always fit width to screen... and K9 did that so I liked it the best because of that.
Apparently it CONTINUOUSLY connects thru whatever network/data connection you have (wifi/mobile) and EATS battery and bandwidth. I had to set sync to never to stop it. Now of course, I'm not being notified of emails arriving at my box(es).
Obviously I'm doing something wrong? My goal is to have this phone sync contacts with my gmail account (like my iphone did with google-sync-exchange).. and get instant email notifications pushed to my device (like my iphone did).
WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?
I am using the Email app from Samsung. I have it synching to both Gmail, and to a Yahoo account. It notifies me for the Yahoo, but not the Gmail.
Now, I had turned off Gmail notification in the Gmail app, as I had gotten dual notifications: one from Gmail, one from Email. But now I find I am not getting notification from the Email app for Gmail, although I do for Yahoo. So, I have turned Gmail notification back on, and I do get notification from it. But of course then in the notification bar, it takes me to Gmail app, and I prefer to use the Email app.
Any suggestions?
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I am using the Email app from Samsung. I have it synching to both Gmail, and to a Yahoo account. It notifies me for the Yahoo, but not the Gmail.
Now, I had turned off Gmail notification in the Gmail app, as I had gotten dual notifications: one from Gmail, one from Email. But now I find I am not getting notification from the Email app for Gmail, although I do for Yahoo. So, I have turned Gmail notification back on, and I do get notification from it. But of course then in the notification bar, it takes me to Gmail app, and I prefer to use the Email app.
Any suggestions?
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Afraid I don't have any suggestions since I've worked all weekend trying to fix the problem. If it's any consolation the yahoo mobile mail update site has dozens of irate comments. Seems as if the new update (around Dec 12) is the culprit. Don't find anything from Yahoo but surely they'll get it fixed before long.
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Afraid I don't have any suggestions since I've worked all weekend trying to fix the problem. If it's any consolation the yahoo mobile mail update site has dozens of irate comments. Seems as if the new update (around Dec 12) is the culprit. Don't find anything from Yahoo but surely they'll get it fixed before long.
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Hmmm...maybe I didn't write it up clearly. The Yahoo site is notifying fine (again, in the Samsung Email app). Googlel is not.
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Hmmm...maybe I didn't write it up clearly. The Yahoo site is notifying fine (again, in the Samsung Email app). Googlel is not.
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Here's the link. You might be interested to see if anyone else has your specific problem.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yahoo.mobile.client.android.mail&hl=en
For what it's worth. I found a copy of the old yahoo mail apk, uninstalled the current version, installed the old version and it worked perfectly. Unfortunately, yahoo automatically upgraded in less than an hour. Tried it again with the same results. Found out that you cannot stop upgrades. If you have time, I'd like for you to try the old version just to see if your results are the same.
Turn off automatic upgrades?
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What would trying Yahoo have to do with me not receiving notifications from Gmail in the Samsung email app?
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Turn off automatic upgrades?
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I had just done that and posted a note with results back on the yahoo web site before seeing your post. I wasted many hours this past weekend that could have been spent watching football if I had had your insight. Anyhow I appreciate your advice and the following is the note I sent along for other frustrated yahoo users:
A possible temporary fix for Yahoo Mail
I have at least temporarily fixed my non-notification problem with the new update of Yahoo Mail. First I opened google market, uninstalled yahoo mail, while in market I opened menu and unchecked automatic updating. I then downloaded yahoo mail 1.4.5 apk and installed it. This can be found on numerous sites after googling. After signing in I opened the app went to menu and picked the notification procedures I wanted. I'm on a galaxy s3 and so far so good. Seems to be holding.
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What would trying Yahoo have to do with me not receiving notifications from Gmail in the Samsung email app?
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Don't know for sure but it seems likely that you're seeing a conflict between similar programs. One is probably establishing precedence. I had a number of similar problems this weekend when I was trying to use light flow along with gmail and stock mail and yahoo. When I would get one working the others wouldn't. Finally had stock mail and yahoo working but notification was a sometime thing. I'll be if you reinstall yahoo apk 1.4.5, yahoo will work as a stand alone program and the others will work as expected. Let me know.
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I had just done that and posted a note with results back on the yahoo web site before seeing your post. I wasted many hours this past weekend that could have been spent watching football if I had had your insight. Anyhow I appreciate your advice and the following is the note I sent along for other frustrated yahoo users:
A possible temporary fix for Yahoo Mail
I have at least temporarily fixed my non-notification problem with the new update of Yahoo Mail. First I opened google market, uninstalled yahoo mail, while in market I opened menu and unchecked automatic updating. I then downloaded yahoo mail 1.4.5 apk and installed it. This can be found on numerous sites after googling. After signing in I opened the app went to menu and picked the notification procedures I wanted. I'm on a galaxy s3 and so far so good. Seems to be holding.
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Don't know for sure but it seems likely that you're seeing a conflict between similar programs. One is probably establishing precedence. I had a number of similar problems this weekend when I was trying to use light flow along with gmail and stock mail and yahoo. When I would get one working the others wouldn't. Finally had stock mail and yahoo working but notification was a sometime thing. I'll be if you reinstall yahoo apk 1.4.5, yahoo will work as a stand alone program and the others will work as expected. Let me know.
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Interesting.
I have two programs: gMail, and eMail. I don't have Yahoo installed. With that theory, it seems adding a third app would add to the problem.
It is interesting that the email app will notify when I receive messages from Yahoo email, but not Gmail.But I think you may be right about some kind of conflict. It's also interesting that when on ICS, both alerted for Gmail. So I would get double notification. So I had turned off notification in Gmail for the inbox, but left it on for a particular folder (I wish the email program would let me set different notifications for different labels, like Gmail will).
I doubt I can uninstall Gmail, but maybe I can. I might try uninstall it and see if I get notifications from the Email one, and then reinstall and see what happens.
OH, by the way, I too have Lifghtflow installed. ANd while writing this post I had my wife send me a test email to my Gmail account. The light came on for LIgfhtwave, but neither app notified. I may just try turning on sounds, etc, and do it all from Lightwave.
Ugh...but then I may still have issues with the other Gmail folder.
I'll keep status posted here.
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Interesting.
I have two programs: gMail, and eMail. I don't have Yahoo installed. With that theory, it seems adding a third app would add to the problem.
It is interesting that the email app will notify when I receive messages from Yahoo email, but not Gmail.But I think you may be right about some kind of conflict. It's also interesting that when on ICS, both alerted for Gmail. So I would get double notification. So I had turned off notification in Gmail for the inbox, but left it on for a particular folder (I wish the email program would let me set different notifications for different labels, like Gmail will).
I doubt I can uninstall Gmail, but maybe I can. I might try uninstall it and see if I get notifications from the Email one, and then reinstall and see what happens.
OH, by the way, I too have Lifghtflow installed. ANd while writing this post I had my wife send me a test email to my Gmail account. The light came on for LIgfhtwave, but neither app notified. I may just try turning on sounds, etc, and do it all from Lightwave.
Ugh...but then I may still have issues with the other Gmail folder. I'll keep status posted here.
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I don't think you can uninstall gmail. However, what I did was to go to settings, then app manager, highlight gmail, delete data, and then force close. That takes it out of commission for awhile and gives you time to try other things. Don't know what brings it back to life after a FC but I know that a reboot does bring it back. I've been messing around with android devices for a few years and it seems that the S3 is the most unforgiving and most demanding of protocol of any yet. But I really do like it.
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I am using the Email app from Samsung. I have it synching to both Gmail, and to a Yahoo account. It notifies me for the Yahoo, but not the Gmail.
Now, I had turned off Gmail notification in the Gmail app, as I had gotten dual notifications: one from Gmail, one from Email. But now I find I am not getting notification from the Email app for Gmail, although I do for Yahoo. So, I have turned Gmail notification back on, and I do get notification from it. But of course then in the notification bar, it takes me to Gmail app, and I prefer to use the Email app.
Any suggestions?
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I have tested some things. My initial setup was no Gmail account in the Samsung Email app, and no sync for Gmail in my Google account's settings.
So I activated auto-sync of Gmail in my Google account's settings on my phone. Then, I added my Gmail account to Email app. I added my Gmail account as an Exchange ActiveSync type account, so it would use push-email (instead of polling with POP3/IMAP).
On my computer, I opened Gmail webmail and sent myself an email.
- Within seconds, Email app rang and showed me a notification in my notifications bar.
- Waited a couple of minutes, but the Gmail app would not show a notification. I went to my Google account's settings and clicked Sync all. Now, Gmail app synced and rang and added a notification in the notification bar.
I guess I was just too impatient and did not wait long enough before Gmail app sync, but the two apps (Gmail and Email) show me notifications. You might want to try configuring your Gmail account as an Exchange account in Email. (What Are the Gmail Exchange ActiveSync Settings?)
Stock ROM, Gmail stopped syncing. No more email comes in unless I manually go and hit refresh in the Gmail app, or go to settings and force sync it. This just started happening. Have the phone for almost a month without any issues, then as of say an hour ago, it just stopped syncing emails. No error messages in the sync menu. Normally if there is an issue with sync, there is a red exclamation mark stating an issue, but there isn't any. It just shows that Gmail was last synced at the last time I manually synced it.
Any thoughts?
Upon further testing, I see that Gmail does have an active connection to the server. If I mark an email unread in Gmail, it immediately reflects on the Gmail client in the Note II. If I send a test email, my Gmail.com shows the new email, but the Note II Gmail app does not until I manually sync it. It's very weird.
Clear data. Should work.
also you might try opening up your settings in gmail, and go through those settings. There is an option there to have gmail sync on or off. I was going to suggest clear data in the gmail app, but that already been suggested.
I used to have this problem frequently on my last phone. I never found a permanent fix but did notice that somehow the settings in gmail would change by themselves and gmail sync on/off was one of them as well as the one where you can decide to let it notify you for every email or just once for the initial email.
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Clear data. Should work.
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+1 -- usually fixes issues.