I will post this in both Galaxy s3 sections because people need to know. This is a good read to know about their misleading advertising that their employee uncovered (unintentionally?) for me.
I am sorry I do not have any photos, because my camera just cant pick up the issues correctly...
I suggest to stay away from this product. It is not like the original invisibleshield.
It is very smooth, which is better than the original, but IT IS NOT DURABLE! The slightest pressure by my fingernail left an indent that has not gone away. I tried the same thing on my brother's original invisibleshield on his HTC Desire and it would not even leave an indent in the first place. If it flexed a little bit, it would heal itself right away.
My screen looks like I have been using the phone for 2 years! and I BABY the phone. Has always been in a case (which does not touch the screen), never shares my pocket with anything else, is face down in my pocket, hasnt been dropped yet (knock on wood) and have not bumped anything into the screen. I do not use a stylus.
I have had the protector on since June 27th and there are many indentations on the screen! It dents extremely easily and it does NOT HEAL.
I have been going back and forth with a Zagg employee in customer service and I will show the correspondence here, but I will remove his/her name.
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I have a new Samsung Galaxy s3 and I am wondering what the difference is between the regular invisible shield and the HD. I bought the HD and have had it installed for about 4 days now. It is very smooth which I like, but my brother has a standard invisibleshield on his HTC Desire and although it is not quite as smooth, it does not show any scratches.
The InvisibleShield HD shows scratches quite easily. I applied very light pressure with my fingernail to the corner and there was an indent. It still has not gone away since 3 days. On my brothers device, there is no indent shown as all with the same amount of pressure from my fingernail.
It seems to be less durable and more prone to damage, yet a higher price.
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Thank you for contacting ZAGG, where we are Zealous About Great Gadgets! My name is XX and I appreciate the opportunity to assist you.
Thank you for the purchase of the invisibleSHIELD. I'd like to confirm that the HD is a thinner than the original, which helps with the smoothness and clarity. However, due to the same fact, it does not absorb impact or scratches as well as the original invisibleSHIELD. It still has the original's ability to repair itself but it will take longer to do so. Furthermore, we normally recommend not to asses the quality of any invisibleSHIELD until after a couple of weeks from installation, if it was successful. This is because the adhesive is still curing on to the surface of your phone and may be more prone do damage. If the adhesive is disturbed while it's drying, it will most likely stay that way.
I would recommend to allow an extra week to determine whether or not your invisibleSHIELD will need to be replaced, which is very likely due to the curing procedure your invisibleSHIELD has endured. If so, you may place a warranty request to have a new one sent to you.
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I don't really see with what the surface of the screen protector has to do with the adhesive. The indents left in the screen protector are from absolute minimal pressure. I don't see how you are charging a premium for this product when in 2 weeks the screen will look horrendous being covered in indents.
Making it thinner but HIGHLY susceptible to indents is a terrible idea. I have also looked online briefly and I'm not the only one with this issue with the HD.
Zagg is generally known with quality products but this is crazy. A SCREEN PROTECTOR that can't withstand the smallest of pressure/contact/impact. Can you imagine if someone uses a stylus on here? I it would look like an ice rink after a week of crowds skating on it.
This product was not well thought through and I hope it is either redesigned or not made any more. My brand new phone and screen protector looks like I've owned it for over a year. (and I baby my phones. They never share a pocket with anything else, always use a case) for I have no idea how these marks could have even managed to get on there with that being said. I know only one I made on purpose to test it and it's at the bottom away from the screen, but there are many other marks on the screen. I hope it's not the COTTON FIBRES from my pocket making them...
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I am sorry to hear that you feel this way. However, it is unreasonable to compare different products and expect them to perform the same as others when they are in a different category. Different products are introduced to the market to satisfy different customers and provide a wider range of protection products. There will never be a "one-size-fits-all" product from any company.
To further elaborate on the adhesive part, if you were to remove part of the adhesive, you will see a noticeable line/scratch on the bottom (adhesive) side of the invisibleSHIELD because the adhesive has been removed/disturbed/stretched. As mentioned, the invisibleSHIELD is more vulnerable to damage while it is still drying.
We have also been selling the HD invisibleSHIELD for the iPhone 4/4S and iPad 3 (3rd Gen) with great success. In the iPad 3, it is not uncommon for customers to use fine stylus, such as the JOT stylus, which has a fine point.
I believe that the reason why you are not completely satisfied with the invisibleSHIELD you own is because you are comparing it to other products, as stated. However, if you are not happy with it, I would recommend seeking assistance from the retailer it was purchased from and inquiring about their return process.
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First off I want to address your comment of "There will never be a "one-size-fits-all" product from any company. " I guess you have not heard of SGP? They Flex HD wet applicator is incredibly clear and smooth..and THIN. There are many products that are just as smooth and "glass-like" as the HD, without warping to the slightest contact. Also many other screen protector brands are excellent, from Rearth, to Ghost Armour, and on, and on.
Your interpretation seems to be that, there is no "one size fits all" because your new HD is very weak and you pretty much admitted that when you said, "Thank you for the purchase of the invisibleSHIELD. I'd like to confirm that the HD is a thinner than the original, which helps with the smoothness and clarity. However, due to the same fact, it does not absorb impact or scratches as well as the original invisibleSHIELD."
Also, this insults me even more when you tell me that, " it is unreasonable to compare different products and expect them to perform the same as others when they are in a different category"
I am surely not comparing products in a different category and I'm shocked to even see you write that... They ARE in the same category unless Zagg is magically creating their own category. It is in a wet application screen protector category. ACCORDING TO YOU though, the difference is that... its weaker... because its thinner.
That is even more interesting and let me tell you why.
Here is a link to ZAGGs post on THEIR website - http://www.zagg.com/community/blog/...-for-iphone-and-ipad-with-an-invisible-video/
Look familiar?
"We took the original invisibleSHIELD, improved the clarity, and added a glass-like surface."
Ive spent over an hour searching online through various sources and nowhere does it mention the fact that it does not absorb impact or scratches as well as the original IS. Yes the fact that is is thin is mentioned, but that fact alone should not lead someone to assume that this MORE EXPENSIVE and new product is any WEAKER than the original. If its weaker but clearer/smoother... it should be the same price!
ON SECOND HAND lets take a look at my box for the invisibleshield HD !
"THE invisibleSHIELD HD DELIVERS THE SAME PATENTED, AWARD-WINNING, AND VIRTUALLY INDESTRUCTIBLE PROTECTIVE FILM AS THE ORIGINAL PATENTED invisibleSHIELD, WITH PREMIUM FEATURES INCLUDING ADVANCED CLARITY AND A GLASS-LIKE SURFACE."
Wow, I may have just stepped on my own toes there, it does not even mention that it is thinner! Also in HUGE letters above that it says "THE ORIGINAL, MILITARY GRADE FILM NOW IN HD"
It says its the SAME FILM as the ORIGINAL, but with PREMIUM features (clarity, smoothness). This is misleading advertising at its best.
Keep in mind I purchased the shield based on reading the box in the store, and now after the fact I am searching online and still doesn't really help ZAGGs case.
What else does it say on the box? SCRATCH PROOF
It also mentions that if its ever damaged, it will be replaced for the life of the product. I think scratches/indents are considered damage and since my first email, this thing has nearly twice as many issues with it now.
I laugh at the same "nano-memory technology" on this packaging which is what you advertised on the original IS as well because NONE of the marks have gone away.
Also, interestingly enough, there is no mention of what you told me, "This is because the adhesive is still curing on to the surface of your phone and may be more prone do damage. If the adhesive is disturbed while it's drying, it will most likely stay that way."
Seriously? You dont mention that to the consumers? So this terrible screen protector will always look terrible now, You want us to leave the phone is a protective box for over a week allowing it to cure? That never happened with the original IS. This is the worst advertising for a product.
This is nothing against YOU because you did not manufacture or create the product packaging and advertising (that I know of), and you did shed some light on the misleading nature of this product for me, but don't tell me this is in a different category and that its not fair to compare to your original IS. Thats insulting my intelligence. I can read the packaging of the product sitting here in front of me that claims, again, ""THE invisibleSHIELD HD DELIVERS THE SAME PATENTED, AWARD-WINNING, AND VIRTUALLY INDESTRUCTIBLE PROTECTIVE FILM AS THE ORIGINAL PATENTED invisibleSHIELD, WITH PREMIUM FEATURES INCLUDING ADVANCED CLARITY AND A GLASS-LIKE SURFACE."
It CLEARLY says its the same, original film, but with added features. That would mean its in the same category, or if you want to play the category game, it would be in a premium category BASED ON THE PACKAGING AND ADVERTISING since it does not mention that it is weaker.
I was going to just return this to BestBuy and get them to refund the difference and just go with the original invisbleshield, but because of our correspondence which has made me look closer at the brand and its advertising for this product, I refuse to support this product. I will get a refund and purchase a better, wet protector applicator with glass like smoothness, military grade, great clarity, at a better price, and that will not indent like play-doh - and trust me, there are enough choices for this CATEGORY of screen protector on the market.
ps. this is not an isolated incidence, I have a friend who also purchased this and agrees with me.
pps. Your comment about your Apple products - if they have the same HD material that the Galaxy s3 has, I find it hard to believe that theirs arent weak as well. Although at the same time, people I know with Apple products dont really complain about any accessory they buy for them even when they break in the first week or have other faults.
I will be making these issues publicly known and voicing my displeasure with the brand and product.
Thank you and have a good day.
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Read my last quote, probably the best summary.
This product is advertised as the original invisibleshield, but with premium features like more clarity and a smoother surface.
What they dont tell you, and what he admitted, is that this product is weaker.
It has dented and scratched very easily and he pretty much admitted that ... thats what will happen.
Does the dents and scratches occur on the screen protector or the screen itself? I've read good reviews on the Zagg HD but not the Zagg's until now I guess.
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Does the dents and scratches occur on the screen protector or the screen itself? I've read good reviews on the Zagg HD but not the Zagg's until now I guess.
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They appear on the screen protector. Yes its good that its not on the screen, but these should not be appearing on the protector anyway, especially from such slight pressure.
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They appear on the screen protector. Yes its good that its not on the screen, but these should not be appearing on the protector anyway, especially from such slight pressure.
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Ok, I was going to pick a pack up because I read they cover edge to edge and clear. I used SGP's before which I liked but they don't cover the full screen. I'll have to think twice about these Zagg's now. Any others I should consider now?
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Ok, I was going to pick a pack up because I read they cover edge to edge and clear. I used SGP's before which I liked but they don't cover the full screen. I'll have to think twice about these Zagg's now. Any others I should consider now?
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Well I believe the SGP Flex HD, which is a wet screen protector like the Zagg, covers the entire screen? There is at least one review of it on youtube.
If you want a wet applicator - SGP Flex HD, Ghost Armor, wrapsol. Those are some of the well reviewed ones.
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Well I believe the SGP Flex HD, which is a wet screen protector like the Zagg, covers the entire screen? There is at least one review of it on youtube.
If you want a wet applicator - SGP Flex HD, Ghost Armor, wrapsol. Those are some of the well reviewed ones.
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Any good dry ones? Not a fan of wet applicators hence why I liked the Zagg HD ones. Thx
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Any good dry ones? Not a fan of wet applicators hence why I liked the Zagg HD ones. Thx
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A dry one that covers the entire screen? I actually havent seen one yet for the s3.
Generally for a dry protector, I would recommend SGP though.
Rearth has one called the Ringbo for the s3 that also seems good - but again it does not cover the entire screen.
The dry ones dont cover the entire screen because they dont properly stick to the curved edges of the s3. Thats why they are all cut a bit short all the way around.
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A dry one that covers the entire screen? I actually havent seen one yet for the s3.
Generally for a dry protector, I would recommend SGP though.
Rearth has one called the Ringbo for the s3 that also seems good - but again it does not cover the entire screen.
The dry ones dont cover the entire screen because they dont properly stick to the curved edges of the s3. Thats why they are all cut a bit short all the way around.
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I thought the Zagg HD covers the entire screen?
Have you tried a replacement? I put on my Zagg HD as soon as the phone arrived. Tons of use, and lots of in and out of pockets and it is still perfect.
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I thought the Zagg HD covers the entire screen?
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The Zagg HD is a wet apply screen protector.
Have you tried a replacement? I put on my Zagg HD as soon as the phone arrived. Tons of use, and lots of in and out of pockets and it is still perfect.
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I will get Best Buy to put another one on for me (for free) and I'll see. But again, that makes me even more mad because yours is fine, but this Zagg person is telling me its perfectly fine that mine is all dented up because the product is thinner and weaker... Come on, really?
Should have just said that its probably an issue. I would have said ok and drove over to best buy. But then he gives me some other kind of crap about being a different category (the product box says its the same film as the original but with premium features) and such...
Just buy SKINOMI shields they are way better and don't have orange peel look! They hsve the same lifetime guarantee and warranty and you can sometimes get them on amazon for $4 free shipping. Or normal price $19.99
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Well I believe the SGP Flex HD, which is a wet screen protector like the Zagg, covers the entire screen? There is at least one review of it on youtube.
If you want a wet applicator - SGP Flex HD, Ghost Armor, wrapsol. Those are some of the well reviewed ones.
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I have been very happy with the XtremeGuard skins. They are inexpensive but have a smooth finish and resist scratches/dents pretty well. The cut of the ones I have done have been pretty spot on too. I really dont have any complaints other then the order not being complete, but thats ... a different category then the quality of the skin. lol
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I have been very happy with the XtremeGuard skins. They are inexpensive but have a smooth finish and resist scratches/dents pretty well. The cut of the ones I have done have been pretty spot on too. I really dont have any complaints other then the order not being complete, but thats ... a different category then the quality of the skin. lol
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and yeah I was an idiot and waited until the 75% off coupon expired for the xtremeguardz. The initial thought about them was that the cut was not very good, but I guess they improved the cut.
Ah yeah, Skinomi was one of the brands I forgot to mention in my email to them.
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and yeah I was an idiot and waited until the 75% off coupon expired for the xtremeguardz. The initial thought about them was that the cut was not very good, but I guess they improved the cut.
Ah yeah, Skinomi was one of the brands I forgot to mention in my email to them.
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I think I heard on amazon it was .99, still not bad....
There has to be something wrong with yours. I have one on this phone and a tablet and haven't experienced those issues.
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Any good dry ones? Not a fan of wet applicators hence why I liked the Zagg HD ones. Thx
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I haven't received my S3 just yet, but on my HTC Evo (original) i use the Seidio Ultimate brand. Seidio Ultimate Screen Protector Dry installation.
I've had my Evo just over 2 years (got it day one and put the protector on about a week later). The package was a 2 pack... I've never needed to put the 2nd one on !! The original screen protector, while it has a few thin scratches if you look extremely closely, still looks like new 2 years later.
I see that on Seidio's site they have an S3 version and unless I find some review stating otherwise, I'll probably end up buying these for my S3 as well.
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There has to be something wrong with yours. I have one on this phone and a tablet and haven't experienced those issues.
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I will say the same thing to everyone that is not experiencing the same thing as me.
It frustrates me even more! Because this Zagg representative is telling me that its perfectly fine/normal that I am having all of these issues with my screen protector because it is actually thinner and it is actually weaker than the original one.
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I will say the same thing to everyone that is not experiencing the same thing as me.
It frustrates me even more! Because this Zagg representative is telling me that its perfectly fine/normal that I am having all of these issues with my screen protector because it is actually thinner and it is actually weaker than the original one.
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I know how you feel and what your saying but there are always dopey reps in every company that don't know or confuse things. Get it replaced and then you'll know for sure. Good luck.
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Has anyone tried the zagg screen protector for the vibrant? I watched few scratch videos and it looks like it is very durable. What I didn't like is the part where you have to apply it wet. Has anyone tried them on vibrant or any other phone?
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Mine shipped on Friday, I'll let you know as soon as I receive it and install it on the screen ... I got the easy kit, full application only to realize that I really only care about the screen ... the back is anyway cheap plastic and the phone already comes with a backup back cover ... meh, spilled milk ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726134
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Mine shipped on Friday, I'll let you know as soon as I receive it and install it on the screen ... I got the easy kit, full application only to realize that I really only care about the screen ... the back is anyway cheap plastic and the phone already comes with a backup back cover ... meh, spilled milk ...
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lol, same here. But I only got the screen part.
I tried the invisible gadgetguard one though. Same installation process.
I will never buy another one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739482
I have changed over to the Realook and I couldn't be happier. Much more clear and much smoother.
I have the Zagg Invisible shield (screen only).. I will say it works as advertised as far as protection....
my disappointment is that my screen no longer feels like glass... its harder to use Swype because the screen is kinda rubbery and ur finger(s) dont slide as easily.
ALSO can't swear it's the reason... but trying to (for example) move the cursor when ur texting.. like trying to go back and add a ".... the precision is off... i have to try several times to get the cursor in the right place (makes me miss having a trackball).. I dont recall if this problem existed before i got the shield.
Damn, I wish I had read reviews like these before I dropped closed to thirty bucks on this crap. The protector needs to "cure" but already I can see a couple small (1cm and 2cm) straight vertical lines that at first looked like cracks (I had to throw away that pair of underwear). "Fortunately" I read the recent posts to this thread and found out it's not a problem with the screen. I thought perhaps all the squeegeeing messed it up.
The positive: it protects the screen from accidental scratches and acts like a oleophobic coating that should resist oily fingerprints (I don't know about you but I need that, bad).
The negative: the screen is no longer smooth to the touch so gestures are a little buffered but more consistent (without the shield, it would be best when the screen was clean but it would get jerky when the oil built up); the crisp picture is a little dull.
I don't think the hassle is worth it but I bet when you get that first scratch you'll wish you had the shield on. The grass is always greener on the other side.
Last but not least, at $30 for a piece of plastic, Zagg really needs to deliver perfection. This is just shameful.
If you like the Zagg, you might try www.bestskinsever.com since they're basically the same exact thing, just half the cost. I had them on my G1 and liked it. They're presently working on a Vibrant skin.
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Damn, I wish I had read reviews like these before I dropped closed to thirty bucks on this crap. The protector needs to "cure" but already I can see a couple small (1cm and 2cm) straight vertical lines that at first looked like cracks (I had to throw away that pair of underwear). "Fortunately" I read the recent posts to this thread and found out it's not a problem with the screen. I thought perhaps all the squeegeeing messed it up.
The positive: it protects the screen from accidental scratches and acts like a oleophobic coating that should resist oily fingerprints (I don't know about you but I need that, bad).
The negative: the screen is no longer smooth to the touch so gestures are a little buffered but more consistent (without the shield, it would be best when the screen was clean but it would get jerky when the oil built up); the crisp picture is a little dull.
I don't think the hassle is worth it but I bet when you get that first scratch you'll wish you had the shield on. The grass is always greener on the other side.
Last but not least, at $30 for a piece of plastic, Zagg really needs to deliver perfection. This is just shameful.
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Just request a full refund. They should honor their money back guarantee as long as you're still within the time period.
Just received mine and really am not disappointed with the product it is a little less glass like but is not hard to use swype, clarity seems the same and screen response is about the same I could tell a little drag with the screen nothing crazy,i will say onr thing that confuses me is the back cover does not even cover the edges which is very word to me considering that's the most likely part it will land on. I'd give it an overall 7 out of 10. For the price there are better alternatives but it willdo the job. As far as the vertical line problem I cannot comment on that as mine did not have that problem.
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I took it off ... got tired of looking at the wavy pattern of the plastic and the two "imperfections" on the shield ... I'd rather look at scratches. Plus, trying to swype only to fall short of the letter I was aiming for got old quick (the skin loses momentum from the extra resistance that the membrane introduces).
Anyone who claims their screen looks roughly the same after the Zagg Shield treatment is smoking something that he/she should share with the rest of us.
I also contacted Zagg regarding a refund ... let's see how that goes.
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I took it off ... got tired of looking at the wavy pattern of the plastic and the two "imperfections" on the shield ... I'd rather look at scratches. Plus, trying to swype only to fall short of the letter I was aiming for got old quick (the skin loses momentum from the extra resistance that the membrane introduces).
Anyone who claims their screen looks roughly the same after the Zagg Shield treatment is smoking something that he/she should share with the rest of us.
I also contacted Zagg regarding a refund ... let's see how that goes.
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I took off the Zagg too. I just couldn't handle the look and feel.
Go get the Realook and you'll be very pleased. Search Realook Vibrant on Ebay and get it from the seller "realook". Shipping is free and super fast (I got mine in two days and other have reported next day delivery).
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I took off the Zagg too. I just couldn't handle the look and feel.
Go get the Realook and you'll be very pleased. Search Realook Vibrant on Ebay and get it from the seller "realook". Shipping is free and super fast (I got mine in two days and other have reported next day delivery).
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Thank you sir! I will check it out.
BTW, folks, if one searches for Samsung Galaxy Gorilla, one finds many references to the Galaxy S phones having a Gorilla screen that is scratch-resistant (which is an understatement for the kind of abuse they can withstand). Sounds to me like many of us wasted time and money to protect something that didn't really need the protection. Just my two cents (albeit very, very late).
Good luck to all with their screen protection strategy.
Ghost Armor...
Ghost Armor...look into it! thinner than invisible shield so it's more responsive and doesn't get that orange peel...same lifetime guarantee, overall better product!
Well I got my 2 zagg screens, applied first 2 nasty vertical lines on the screen. removed it next day. Applied second thought what are the chances in getting two defective screens... same thing but this time only 1 line. Keeping this one on until my realook arrives.
Love my screen. Invisi sheild ftw
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I thought I'd input my 2 cents on this topic:
I got this directly from the manager of the 3M distribution facility for my area...
3M owns the patent for this kind of protection film.
Clearbra, Zagg, BestSkinsEver, basically anyone saying their product was designed for military use (on helicopter blades), they are all getting their materials from 3M. The only difference between vendors is the measurements they take, and ultimately the template they use for the application.
It sounds like Realook is a different material since it doesn't have that same rubbery feel to it, so they are probably not getting their stuff from 3M.
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It sounds like Realook is a different material since it doesn't have that same rubbery feel to it, so they are probably not getting their stuff from 3M.
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Having had both on my Vibrant I can tell you that they are definitely different material. The Zagg is flimsy rubber feeling material that requires water to install, the Realook is a harder plastic feeling material that appears to cling to the screen as it touches it.
After having both on the phone I can say without a doubt that the Realook is the superior product. It goes on easier, it's transparent, and it feels like the original glass.
Side note... I showed a buddy my phone the other day and he was playing around with it for a few minutes watching Avatar and playing a game. As he handed it back to me he said "you going to put a screen protector on there?" I said "It already has one". He looked again and he still couldn't tell that it was there, even after I told him.
Realook for the win!
There are many topics in this forum about screenprotectors and shield. That's why I decided to make one topic on this subject based on my experience. I've used protectors for the Xperia X1 and the HTC Desire, i've used the following:
Screenprotectors
Brando UltraClear My experience with the Brando's are very good. They are easy to install as they don't use glue, but some kind of static energy, I don't know what it is exactly. Due this, they can be reapplied by peeling them off and reapply them. And you can even clean them with water. This is also a disadvantage, as the protector can move a little around the screen and can be lifted up by sharp objects.
Color distortion due the brando is negligible and in my opinion the brando's have a nice feel to them, which is of course quit important for a screenprotector.
Ebay I've had some experience with these protectors, and while they are cheap, I'm not a big fan of them. They feel cheap and there is too much resistance while touching the screen. I also have my doubts about the protection, especially with sharp objects penetrating the protector, but I have no experience with that. Color distortion depends on how you apply the protector, I have seen some people with some vague lines on the screen due these protectors.
Martin Fields These appear to be the best protectors but I have no experience with them. Please post your experience so this can be a nice overview topic
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StealthGuards This is the shield/screenprotector i use at the moment. The problem with shields is that over time, the small parts (in my case the side of the phone) tends to get loose. That happened to my Zagg shield which I originally bought for my Desire. Since I didn't want to spend $25,- again I browsed around the internet and found this alternative. They are incredibly cheap (Free + shipping, so around $2,-) and hard to beat at that price. The feel of the screenprotector isn't as nice as from the brando. But it's better then the Zagg and good enough for all day use.
The protection you get is very good, every part of the phone is protected by some plastic looking and feeling material. The StealthGuards offers the same protection as the Zagg, and scratches automagically restore as long as they aren't too deep. So you have a lot of extra protection without the bulk and at a low price. Disadvantage could be that your phone gets more glossy. For a matte phone like the desire this isn't something i'm happy about, but you can order matte shields for a small price (which I didn't btw, so I'm not sure how that will look). Also you can't reapply them as they use some kind of glue. Personally I didn't have any problems peeling them off (no glue left on the phone, or easily removable).
ZaggIs more or less the same as the StealthGuard, but more expansive. You do get 2 year warrenty and free replacement for that price, and I guess it's more scratch resistant but with normal use the SG is sufficient for me. I've scratched both with my keys and didn't see much difference. They have more resistance then the SG and I wasn't a big fan of using the Zagg as screenprotector so i ordered a Brando. Installation is better then SG, as SG doesn't even provide instructions or the installation fluid (but you don't need it really, I just pushed it on the phone and it sticked).
BSE is mentioned in this post and is also a cheaper alternative to Zagg.
Installation
For installation of your protector I recommand BillTheCat's excellent installation technique post that can be found here
Conclusion
On a low budget I recommend the StealthGuards, as they are dirty cheap, offer way better protection then the cheap ebay protections and feel better. If you have some more money to spend I would go for a SG + Brando UltraClear combination. This is primarily for the feel on the touchscreen, which I like a lot on the brando. Maybe the MF is better, but I can't recommend it as I personally never used one.
If you have a lot the spend you could look into the Zagg, but you will definitely want another screenprotector alongside the Zagg, which makes it even more pricy. I guess it's protection is better then the SG, but I doubt you'll need it.
This is all based on my personal experience I had with these products, yours can be entirely different and if so, please post it below. I will update this post if users provide useful descriptions on there phone protections.
Great post! A lot of useful information here for those looking to get a screen protector for their phone.
I only have experience with the Zagg Invisible Shield. I tried it on my old hero, and while it's a solid product I just couldn' get used to the way it felt uner my fingertips. I ended up removing it after only 4 days of use. That being said, when I recently retired the old Hero it didn't have a single mark on the screen. So, for me the screen protector from Zagg didn't do anything except lower the usability of my phone.
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Nice post.... I got a nice HTC branded pouch from amazon for £7.50 ($12.20) and it's great.
amazon.co.uk/HTC-Pouch-PO-S520-smartphone/dp/B003HRZRCE/
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Nice post.... I got a nice HTC branded pouch from amazon for £7.50 ($12.20) and it's great.
amazon.co.uk/HTC-Pouch-PO-S520-smartphone/dp/B003HRZRCE/
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I don't like pouches, they add weight and slow the process of quickly checking my phone This one looks nice though
I've been using Martin Fields protectors for a few years now. Better quality than most and cut very well so that they cover the entire screen. Easy to apply without bubbles forming and can be removed without leaving residue on the screen.
One thing that i have noticed is a discoloration/wearing on the shield in the most frequently used areas of the screen. It's only noticeable when the screen is off though.
These are very costly compared to most but offer a good level of protection and last for ages.
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I've been using Martin Fields protectors for a few years now. Better quality than most and cut very well so that they cover the entire screen. Easy to apply without bubbles forming and can be removed without leaving residue on the screen.
One thing that i have noticed is a discoloration/wearing on the shield in the most frequently used areas of the screen. It's only noticeable when the screen is off though.
These are very costly compared to most but offer a good level of protection and last for ages.
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I heard the same story, since my protector is slightly damaged after 3/4 year of heavy use i'm thinking of buying one and check them out. How does the martin field feel compared to the original screen?
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I heard the same story, since my protector is slightly damaged after 3/4 year of heavy use i'm thinking of buying one and check them out. How does the martin field feel compared to the original screen?
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I actually found the naked N1 screen a bit hard to get along with. My finger wouldn't swipe across smoothly and felt 'sticky'. The MF protector was actually an improvement although it takes a days use to wear in properly. I've had the same protector on for a year now and it's still going strong
i use a zagg and love it! goes on great but does feel funny something you just have to get use to the only bad thing i noticed is when i tried to put the one from my white streak on my black streak the screen was totally unresponsive so i had to get a new one bestbuy replaced it so no big deal couple of my friends had the same problem so i guess you can't use it more than once. it will mark up i dropped my streak and tried to stop it with my shoe and ended up kicking it across the room and it put 2 small marks on the zagg but other than that its great and i do recommend it. a little pricey though!
A very good alternative, actually better and a lot cheaper than Zagg, is BSE: http://www.bestskinsever.com/
I started using them on my last 3 devices and have never looked at another product since.
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A very good alternative, actually better and a lot cheaper than Zagg, is BSE: http://www.bestskinsever.com/
I started using them on my last 3 devices and have never looked at another product since.
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+1 for BSE, I've used them on almost every phone since my BlackBerry days. I've tried others and keep going back.
The ShieldGuards are really good they might be better than zagg I recommend this
Invisible Shield from Zagg is always a good choich but a little bit pricey. They just recently released the universal screen pack to Radioshack so they should be available to you locally. Which is always ideal for me.
They price at 14.99 for three.
I have never tried bestskinsever, but I used Zagg a couple of times when it was still called Invisible Shield.
Is bestskinsever the same sort of product? That is, is it sticky to touch, or does the finger slide like it does on the screen?
Also, does the screen protector part have the orange peel effect, or is it mirror-like, like a normal screen protector?
The Zagg style protectors are fantastic for the body of electronics items, but imho very bad news for screens, especially touch screens.
Updated startpost with BSE. I will take some pictures of the Stealthguard installed on my device
Im thinking about getting a zagg. they just gave me a simple screen protector from verizon when i picked up my thunderbolt. definitely not going to cut it.
Updated OP with link to the installation technique guide from BillTheCat
Skinomi its good too! Easy to put on only sucky part is u have to wait 12-24 hours for it to dry (
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Skinomi its good too! Easy to put on only sucky part is u have to wait 12-24 hours for it to dry (
Sent from a flashed CM7 myTouch 4g
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Those are new to me. How do they feel and react to scratches?
bought my hd 2 with a screenprotector today and the protector is shining under the sun. can't see a thing.
It seems the StealthGuard is no longer free, however, for $10,- you get 2 protectors, so it's still very competitive when compared to the others.
Edit: There seems to be a workaround and still get the protectors for free if you sign up to become a devaffiliate. I haven't tried this myself (mine is still on), but it's worth a shot. (here or here)
I received my full body protection from Zagg and to be honest I am not 100% satisfied. First off, on a side issue, I ordered the "full body maximum" protection from a seller on eBay and only received the "full body" despite paying the extra for it. That however is something I shall take up with the seller.
Upon beginning the installation and attempting to peel off the thin plastic, it became apparent that it was stuck to the paper it came on and resembled that of what sellotape looks like once stripped from paper it was applied to. See attached picture and you can see the state that the paper is in. I have fitted Bodyguardz products to both my previous HTC Desire HD and HD2 with no such problems.
I was not happy and almost stopped there ready to box it all back up and return. Instead, I tried my best and and despite it being very fiddly I managed to peel it away from the paper it was stuck to and decided to proceed with the installation. The front and back went on fine. Then came the top bit (or whatever bit its supposed to be). I am a little confused as to why Zagg would include 3 parts in their "full body" and then include one extra bit in their "Maximum". Either that or I did receive that "maximum" and its only supposed to have 3 parts but I would of presumed it would of been front and back in one type and then front, back, top, bottom and sides in the "maximum" protection pack?
The annoyance as you can see in the picture attached, is that this random extra bit is cut so poorly that it neither fits at the top or the bottom. At the bottom, it would directly be blocking the USB socket. At the top, it isn't cut in a way that would avoid blocking the headphone socket.
So.....whilst the front/back pieces dry up on my SGS2 overnight tonight (Ihaven't bothered with that extra bit), I shall be contacting both the eBay seller about receiving the wrong product and Zagg about my disappoint with the products cut. Any suggestions on what I should do? Am I best contacting my supplier alone, will I have to return the protection Ive got for a refund, or am I best going straight to Zagg in which case would they request I send the invisibleshield back?
Whether you want to buy one for yourself, I'll let you decide that!
in your second picture that part goes on the bottom of the phone and that cut out is for the speakers !!!
i have the same kit and the bottom part should not extend to the USB port.
Zagg sucks real bad! Used to have 2 of them on my Galaxy S and I spent almost 5 hours installing the second one. the end result was awesome. You couldn't tell it was there.
But then after 3 weeks, it started to peel off near my home button... And then I always had to be careful while I wanted to get the phone out of my pocket!
I ain't going anywhere near that $hit on my Galaxy S II.
Do'h!!!
Well I feel a tad stupid.....oh well, a slight oversight on my part it seems!!
I shall put this down to experience.....
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Are you sure the product is genuine?
I ordered a screen protector last week from the site of ZAGG
and is also a maximum package.
The package had not arrived yet
Do you recommend me not open the box and sell it? or maybe install only the front screen protcetor?
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Are you sure the product is genuine?
I ordered a screen protector last week from the site of ZAGG
and is also a maximum package.
The package had not arrived yet
Do you recommend me not open the box and sell it? or maybe install only the front screen protcetor?
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I'd think it'd be safe if it came from the original Zagg site. After overcoming my daft moment, I installed the final piece and relatively happy with it. The back has a section of bubbles which haven't gone yet, they should hopefully disappear. Annoyingly there is a tiny 'bit' underneath the protector on the front of the screen producing a black dot. Heres hoping that goes too!
I ordered a maximum coverage from Zagg.com and thats not what it looked like.... close, but a little off... And your opening remark states you got it from ebay...
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I ordered a maximum coverage from Zagg.com and thats not what it looked like.... close, but a little off... And your opening remark states you got it from ebay...
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Really? What did yours look like, as in what differences from what you can tell? The one I received was a dam good fake if it was, has Zagg printed on the bottom right of the front protector, came with instructions etc I believe it to be authentic.
I used to use the IS for my blackberries. But ever since I got my iphone and other smart phones I haven't touched IS. I don't know. I don't like them anymore. It takes too long (12-24 hours to dry) and I can't be that long without my phone, and then within a few days the corners begin to peel and then I have to pay shipping to get new parts then the 12-24 hours begin again. Get a nice case That's that! It won't make it as thin, but it will protect it more, and there's no peeling or waiting or anything
That is why you never buy Zagg, they are probably the worse out of all the skin protectors that are used for NASA and luxurious cars, I believe its called thermo something . The best ones are Skinomi's TechSkin and Ghost Armor.Although, I prefer Skinomi, due to their less orangepeel effect and they cost about half the price of Ghost Armor. NEVER BUY ZAGG they have the worst Orange peel effect and are overpriced!!!
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That is why you never buy Zagg, they are probably the worse out of all the skin protectors that are used for NASA and luxurious cars, I believe its called thermo something . The best ones are Skinomi's TechSkin and Ghost Armor.Although, I prefer Skinomi, due to their less orangepeel effect and they cost about half the price of Ghost Armor. NEVER BUY ZAGG they have the worst Orange peel effect and are overpriced!!!
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Thanks for the advice. How do you find the coverage on the Skinomi, which areas are protected e.g. top, sides and bottom?
I have friends that tried Zagg products before and the results were devastating.
I don't recommend them at all and I don't recommend any product at all, that it's application involves solutions of any kind...
The reasons should be obvious to everyone...
Here are pics of my phone with the maximum protection on it. I like it because I can toss the phone around and still keep it in my PDAir belt case. It's the first time I used Zagg's (I've used others) and it went on more easily than most. To the poster who seemed concerned, the solution they include is lubricant, not caustic acid.
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Thanks for the advice. How do you find the coverage on the Skinomi, which areas are protected e.g. top, sides and bottom?
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Just go to the website, google it, since rules say you can't post outside direct links. They offer the full body skin front, back, and sides $19.95. Also, just the screen $11.95. They carry the Carbon Fiber skin in 2 colors black and silver as well, it comes with the screen protector $24.95. Also a wood full skin also $24.95. They are probably one of the cheapest and best out there.
Sorry for the late reply btw. I just bought the silver Carbon Fiber Skin today. The Screen Protector is great.
They ship internationally too.
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To the poster who seemed concerned, the solution they include is lubricant, not caustic acid.
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One question only my friend:
For how long are you using zagg ultimate protection???
* Of course I know that the solution is lubricant, I am not as stupid as you think...
Only zagg recommends lubricant for the application of the ''shield''...
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One question only my friend:
For how long are you using zagg ultimate protection???
* Of course I know that the solution is lubricant, I am not as stupid as you think...
Only zagg recommends lubricant for the application of the ''shield''...
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About a month. The lubricant made it way easy to put on because you can slide the pieces in to place once they're on the phone. When it dries there are no finger prints and no bubbles as you can see in the pics. Their covering is a bit grabbier than others I've used but I buff it with some ArmorAll occasionally to keep it slippery. I'm not a Zagg's fan - it's the first time I've used their products. The big benefit to me is that the phone looks naked and I can slide it in and out of my belt case and use the Samsung accessories without the protector coming off.
Last time I used a Zagg "shield" was on my old N97 (...) It looked great for a while ( a few months actually) but then the glue started to come loose and the shield started peeling off slowly plus due to it coming loose the edges started to look really scruffy and dust kept piling under it.
So I guess what I am trying to say is, it'll work well for a while but you will need to replace it sooner than if you were using other products already mentioned on this thread (Skinomi), but then again this is my experience, you may be luckier.
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Last time I used a Zagg "shield" was on my old N97 (...) It looked great for a while ( a few months actually) but then the glue started to come loose and the shield started peeling off slowly plus due to it coming loose the edges started to look really scruffy and dust kept piling under it.
So I guess what I am trying to say is, it'll work well for a while but you will need to replace it sooner than if you were using other products already mentioned on this thread (Skinomi), but then again this is my experience, you may be luckier.
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That is why you have the lifetime warranty... Also, I have heard Best Skins Ever also may be an alternative. Also, I only recommend Skinomi if you take good care of your device as if you push down on the Skinomi screen protector the mark WILL NOT DISSAPEAR. So use only if you take care of your device i.e. Having a pouch for it, careful installation, and only finger not fingernail use.
A really good solution would be Ghost Armor, but they don't have the S2 available yet as they are located in America and not much demand I guess, sent them an email and they haven't replied for about a week.
I bought the full body armor as well and was a bit dissapointed too. The fit is good and I manage to install it within reasonable effort. But as expected, the bit for the battery cover won't stick properly due to the texture of the cover. I was expecting some kind of hard plastic protection, but instead, the cover feels soft and you can mark it easily with finger print. I didn't even bother installing the screen protection. Won't buy it again.
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That is why you have the lifetime warranty... Also, I have heard Best Skins Ever also may be an alternative. Also, I only recommend Skinomi if you take good care of your device as if you push down on the Skinomi screen protector the mark WILL NOT DISSAPEAR. So use only if you take care of your device i.e. Having a pouch for it, careful installation, and only finger not fingernail use.
A really good solution would be Ghost Armor, but they don't have the S2 available yet as they are located in America and not much demand I guess, sent them an email and they haven't replied for about a week.
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Yup that's correct, but even with the warranty I feel it's too much faffing about, but others may be OK with it.
And yes you do need to take care of your device, but then again these phones are so expensive you would be a fool not to .
Like I said tho, people have different experiences & taste, in my experience clear shields, clear cases, clear desktop towers (yup .. I had one of them 100% clear lol...) etc. always get manky in the end, this time I went with a Zenus leather case thingy, lets see how this works out.
But yes, indeed you are quite right
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00668QSWY/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details
One or two guys on here have mentioned it already, but if any of you are wondering about which one to get, i cannot comment on any of the others, but reallook is pretty decent.
I can't apply screen protectors to save my life, but I went to a wireless store, and had one of the guys do it for me. And it came out pretty good.
It's well made enough to where you can't even tell you have a screen protector on it. But it is a fingerprint magnet.
But still really well made, and possibly the best screen protector for the note?
And a good bonus is that they give you 2 screen protectors, and even screen protectors for the camera lens (4 total!!)
Hope this helps some people that are looking for a screen protector.
Also, the protectors are absolutely clear imo, so if you're looking for some sort of shaded protectors, this is not it.
And you MUST figure out which is the sticky side, (it's actually the second tab which is sticky, which really threw me off)
Got this one too, basically because 2 cost less than one Steinheil and people reported it not to have the rainbow effect (RGB glittering from adhesive like e.g. the Zagg ones).
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It's absolutely clear.
No rainbow/glittering.
It's extremely precisely cut.
It sticks rock solid.
It's comparatively inexpensive.
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It's the worst fingerprint magnet ever.
Cleaning away fingerprints is a pain, this must be some special oleophilic coating.
Fitting it on took forever, easily 10 trials, 1 hour and I still could not get it to stay 100% flat. Right now there's a small area (2x2mm) next to the home button that's not sticking. I left it like that because the other 9 times it'd be flying on any one corner no matter what.
Tiny and not so tiny scratches after only 2 weeks AND the Samsung Flip Cover...
I would not recommend this. Installing it is a real pain and seeing how maintenance (cleaning) time drastically increases while durability is to be questioned (scratches), it seems like a waste of time and money.
I installed my real look perfect the first time... I do own a wireless shop though and do it all the time. My point is that the difficult install is not relevant to the quality of the product, it has to do with experience. If you messed up this one you will probably would have messed up any other brand as well. IV used real look for a while and yes its a fingerprint magnet (like most other "crystal" protectors), and yes it scratches (that is the point to scratch these and not the beloved phone) but I believe it to be as high a quality product as any you would pay 2 or 3X the price for... that's why I use it!
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I may not have the experience you do but this wasn't the first screen protector I have put on a device, must've done this nearly a dozen times. The other protectors ranged from dirt cheap (read: free with other accessory) to quite expensive (Invisible Shield). None were this tricky to attach and besides this one there was only the PSP with it's notorious raised edge one one side of the screen where I/the foil failed to achieve a perfect on-surface attachment.
As for the scratches, of course what you say is the point. But a decent quality foil should certainly not get scratches this fast with additional protection (flip cover) over it. For comparison, my PSP's $3 foil served some 2 years of almost daily carrying the device in messenger bags with no additional protection and to this day has barely any scratches.
One thing I forgot to mention is the costumer service at Reallook is incredibly good. Any questions or complaints I had, the guys there tried there hardest to kiss my ass.
It is a shame though that the protector is SUCH a finger print magnet. But some other guy on here said that these protectors are thicker than the SGP. If this is true, then maybe Realook is worth it just by the fact that it offers superior protection. I bought a nice screen protector to protect my $700 phone, it better damn well do it.
The biggest advantage to buying realook is the back camera screen protector that comes with it.
And again, read the instructions if you do get this one. Tab 1 is supposed to be pealed off first, but it's actually the non-sticky side.
If anyone finds a better protector that offers more protection, please post it on here so I can try it out.
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I may not have the experience you do but this wasn't the first screen protector I have put on a device, must've done this nearly a dozen times. The other protectors ranged from dirt cheap (read: free with other accessory) to quite expensive (Invisible Shield). None were this tricky to attach and besides this one there was only the PSP with it's notorious raised edge one one side of the screen where I/the foil failed to achieve a perfect on-surface attachment.
As for the scratches, of course what you say is the point. But a decent quality foil should certainly not get scratches this fast with additional protection (flip cover) over it. For comparison, my PSP's $3 foil served some 2 years of almost daily carrying the device in messenger bags with no additional protection and to this day has barely any scratches.
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In no way am I trying to argue but just want to point out that invisible shield and the cheap junk that come with cases are totally different therefore comparing apple to oranges. I can assure you that there is zero difference between installing a real look and an sgp, etc. These are equally as difficult as the ultimate ____ crystal whatever that people pay $40 for and absolutely no difference. Of course there are some with oil coatings that would keep the fingerprints away but yet again, apples to oranges. My one and only point is that the real look clear and the sgp ultimate crystal, and any other multi-layered hard screen protector are all equally difficult to align and install perfectly... it simply is a tough job to get it perfect in one (or four) tries. That being said, I WILL NEVER PUT THAT DISTORTING ZAGG JUNK ON MY DEVICE AGAIN! I'd buy 10 of these before having orange Peel effect... my eyes have been opened! Lol!
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I WILL NEVER PUT THAT DISTORTING ZAGG JUNK ON MY DEVICE AGAIN! I'd buy 10 of these before having orange Peel effect... my eyes have been opened! Lol!
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Amen! Had that on my OG Droid ... for maybe a week. Ugh, what an overhyped, overpriced, gross, look AND feel destroying pos that was.
i thought all the same???
I got the realook on my note and agree with the op. I used it in conjunction with a tpu case for decent protection. Can't really see much scratches after a few weeks and definitely prefer it to zagg shields I used in the past.
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Well I've done this for the Nexus guys MOD EDIT: Links removed I figured I'd offer this to the S III guys too :kiss:
This will be the same exact thing as the Nexus Tempered Glass, just a different shape.
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Feel free to ask me any questions you may have, and be sure to use coupon code "SEXYS3" to receive $5 as a special pre-order special :angel: (valid thru 07/05)
Does it cover the whole screen? I mean those round edges of the screen...
Great work but,
How do people justify paying/charging $30 for a screen protector?
(SGP too)
hanhav said:
Does it cover the whole screen? I mean those round edges of the screen...
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This will cover the entire screen, but it will not curve down as it is completely flat.
Wond3r said:
Great work but,
How do people justify paying/charging $30 for a screen protector?
(SGP too)
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The way we see it is that a $30 investment will be less of a loss if broken than a $200+ screen replacement.
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The way we see it is that a $30 investment will be less of a loss if broken than a $200+ screen replacement.
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That comment makes it seem like you think there are NO other screen protectors on the market... and much cheaper. Half the price and even less too
You could have a diamond screen protector but if it spoils touch sensitivity it can ruin the phone. So how does this affect it and is it just design overkill like the iPhone glass back that shatters when you drop it.
Awesome! In for one... totally a huge fan of this type of screen cover. Had one on my S2 from SGP, missed it on my Galaxy Nexus but glad you guys have this one for the S3! Thanks!
Michael_P said:
You could have a diamond screen protector but if it spoils touch sensitivity it can ruin the phone. So how does this affect it and is it just design overkill like the iPhone glass back that shatters when you drop it.
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Touch sensitivity is not affected at all. It is as if nothing is there. The point is that if you drop your phone that the tempered glass screen protector will break as opposed to your phones screen. Would you rather be out $30, or $200? Not to mention that the tempered glass is extremely tough and will not scratch, unlike the phones screen.
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That comment makes it seem like you think there are NO other screen protectors on the market... and much cheaper. Half the price and even less too
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There are no other tempered glass screen protectors for the S III. This is the only one out on the market. The other cheaper screen protectors that you are referring to are PET films, which are in a completely different league than this.
do you have any actual pics of the tempered glass on a unit vs one without it? Dunno if that's possible to capture. I just wanna see the thickness of it.
Curious if it affects the case I'm using..
Can you please make it for HTC One X/XL phones?
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There are no other tempered glass screen protectors for the S III. This is the only one out on the market. The other cheaper screen protectors that you are referring to are PET films, which are in a completely different league than this.
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SGP might be making the Glas for it .. but will still be priced high, and I would present them the same argument.
Its in a different league because its glass?
Who cares if its glass?
Its only in a different league because of the PRICE and your marketing, making people think they need that.
You (and many others, but I refer to you because you are actually here on the forums) are the MONSTER (brand) of screen protectors lol
I have seen SGP Glas protector chipped and shattered...
Tell me why, in everyday terms and practicality, that someone should spend $30 on that when I can spend $14 on the Ultra Crystal, which has 4H hardness (which is more than enough by the way).
I saw your photos on the site, and I dont see how that is ANY better than the Ultra Crystal.
Our shatter-proof design keeps both you and your screen safe from cuts and scratches. When suffered major damage, the screen protector will crack and not shatter much like a car's windshield.
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That quote along with the image of it describes exactly what happened to my SGP Ultra Crystal for my Motorola Milestone a long time ago when it took a hard impact from a point in the center of it. Guess what? I paid $12 for that...
This is for the people that buy what they dont need just because it has nice looking features and numbers that they will never use realistically.
ie. Lamborghinis - very nice, very pricey, but why buy one for everyday use. No practical point. (although yes I would love one)
If these things cost 15-20, thats more reasonable. But $10 more just because it is glass even though it wont REALLY make a difference...
I could issue a challenge and GUARANTEE that if someone were to use your screen protector for .. 6 months, and a different one for 6 more months, there would be NO BENEFIT to using yours. By that I mean, their actual PHONE SCREEN, would not have any damage with EITHER screen protector applied.
I would put money on it.
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do you have any actual pics of the tempered glass on a unit vs one without it? Dunno if that's possible to capture. I just wanna see the thickness of it.
Curious if it affects the case I'm using..
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Can you please make it for HTC One X/XL phones?
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I'll see what I can do, it's quite a possibility.
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SGP might be making the Glas for it .. but will still be priced high, and I would present them the same argument.
Its in a different league because its glass?
Who cares if its glass?
Its only in a different league because of the PRICE and your marketing, making people think they need that.
You (and many others, but I refer to you because you are actually here on the forums) are the MONSTER (brand) of screen protectors lol
I have seen SGP Glas protector chipped and shattered...
Tell me why, in everyday terms and practicality, that someone should spend $30 on that when I can spend $14 on the Ultra Crystal, which has 4H hardness (which is more than enough by the way).
I saw your photos on the site, and I dont see how that is ANY better than the Ultra Crystal.
That quote along with the image of it describes exactly what happened to my SGP Ultra Crystal for my Motorola Milestone a long time ago when it took a hard impact from a point in the center of it. Guess what? I paid $12 for that...
This is for the people that buy what they dont need just because it has nice looking features and numbers that they will never use realistically.
ie. Lamborghinis - very nice, very pricey, but why buy one for everyday use. No practical point. (although yes I would love one)
If these things cost 15-20, thats more reasonable. But $10 more just because it is glass even though it wont REALLY make a difference...
I could issue a challenge and GUARANTEE that if someone were to use your screen protector for .. 6 months, and a different one for 6 more months, there would be NO BENEFIT to using yours. By that I mean, their actual PHONE SCREEN, would not have any damage with EITHER screen protector applied.
I would put money on it.
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Before we do this do realize I'm not arguing with you :good:
There's a huge difference between 4H and 8H. If you drop your phone using a PET film, the phone screen will crack/damage as a PET film provides no shock absorption. If you drop your phone with a glass protector on, the 8H comes into play and keeps everything in one piece. If dropped severely, the glass protector will crack and not the phones screen as it is the primary line of defense. This is what is was designed for. Don't forget that our glass also includes a coating to prevent fingerprints and makes oily residues very easy to wipe in 1 or 2 passes.
You also need to take into account that to make a mold for this is ridiculously expensive, hence the higher price. Then you need to take into account shipping and customs fees. Everybody always figures China products are super cheap and they are, but when you take all this into account you'll figure out why there's such a mark up.
some of you are so quick to jump on this guys case.
if you think you can do better for cheaper, man up. damn.
The only people who are complaining are ones that haven't used something like this before. The treated tempered glass screen cover is something I miss dearly from my Galaxy S2. I've used literally every popular screen cover, dry and wet and nothing gave me the satisfaction a glass cover gave me.
I'll be picking one of these up when it becomes available. Well worth the money if you ask me.
pmoradi2002 said:
We should be receiving samples in next week which I will post pictures of.
I'll see what I can do, it's quite a possibility.
Before we do this do realize I'm not arguing with you :good:
There's a huge difference between 4H and 8H. If you drop your phone using a PET film, the phone screen will crack/damage as a PET film provides no shock absorption. If you drop your phone with a glass protector on, the 8H comes into play and keeps everything in one piece. If dropped severely, the glass protector will crack and not the phones screen as it is the primary line of defense. This is what is was designed for. Don't forget that our glass also includes a coating to prevent fingerprints and makes oily residues very easy to wipe in 1 or 2 passes.
You also need to take into account that to make a mold for this is ridiculously expensive, hence the higher price. Then you need to take into account shipping and customs fees. Everybody always figures China products are super cheap and they are, but when you take all this into account you'll figure out why there's such a mark up.
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I HAVE dropped my phone with a 4h screen protector and nothing happened. I am speaking out of first hand experience. The screen was fine and so was the protector actually. The only thing that damaged it was what I described earlier, and in that instance the 4H kept everything in one piece and I was amazed by it! I had no idea that would happen. It looked like a car's windshield. Again, I repeat, this is on a 4H hardness screen protector that I paid less than half the price for. Actually it was a few years ago too so they may have even somehow improved their products since then.
Your point about the difference between the 8h and 4h is correct on paper, but in real life use - which I have. 4H does the exact same thing!
I wish we could get SGP in this discussion too and maybe prices would be lowered lol.
You need to price it that way to make money due to the higher cost to manufacture - nothing to argue about there! But the price a consumer pays for it is not practical vs other alternatives.
Also, oleophobic coatings are known to wear off of even the most reputable brands. But thats not a big deal.
durandSGS3 - if you actually read my posts, I was jumping on the case of companies in general over charging for products - I mentioned SGP as one of them. Also, not sure what this has ANYTHING to do with "manning up" but if its the case, its been done.
konman795 - I've used a phone with the glas screen protector and I didnt notice MUCH difference over other good quality protectors. None especially worth $10.
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I HAVE dropped my phone with a 4h screen protector and nothing happened. I am speaking out of first hand experience. The screen was fine and so was the protector actually. The only thing that damaged it was what I described earlier, and in that instance the 4H kept everything in one piece and I was amazed by it! I had no idea that would happen. It looked like a car's windshield. Again, I repeat, this is on a 4H hardness screen protector that I paid less than half the price for. Actually it was a few years ago too so they may have even somehow improved their products since then.
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You know, how a screen/screen protector breaks depends completely on the angle it hits the ground at.
Just because you had a drop with a 4H film and survived, doesn't mean it's any better. It's all about the angle. You just got lucky.
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I HAVE dropped my phone with a 4h screen protector and nothing happened. I am speaking out of first hand experience. The screen was fine and so was the protector actually. The only thing that damaged it was what I described earlier, and in that instance the 4H kept everything in one piece and I was amazed by it! I had no idea that would happen. It looked like a car's windshield. Again, I repeat, this is on a 4H hardness screen protector that I paid less than half the price for. Actually it was a few years ago too so they may have even somehow improved their products since then.
Your point about the difference between the 8h and 4h is correct on paper, but in real life use - which I have. 4H does the exact same thing!
I wish we could get SGP in this discussion too and maybe prices would be lowered lol.
You need to price it that way to make money due to the higher cost to manufacture - nothing to argue about there! But the price a consumer pays for it is not practical vs other alternatives.
Also, oleophobic coatings are known to wear off of even the most reputable brands. But thats not a big deal.
durandSGS3 - if you actually read my posts, I was jumping on the case of companies in general over charging for products - I mentioned SGP as one of them. Also, not sure what this has ANYTHING to do with "manning up" but if its the case, its been done.
konman795 - I've used a phone with the glas screen protector and I didnt notice MUCH difference over other good quality protectors. None especially worth $10.
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
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You know, how a screen/screen protector breaks depends completely on the angle it hits the ground at.
Just because you had a drop with a 4H film and survived, doesn't mean it's any better. It's all about the angle. You just got lucky.
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Correct. :highfive:
I think the part that stood out to me most was the fact that my SGP Glas never scratched. I used their ultra crystal covers and they constantly scratched and I had to replace them so much. The other covers I've tried weren't as clear as the ultra crystals but they didn't scratch as easily. I guess what I'm trying to say is the SGP Glas was the best of both worlds. Ultra clear and didn't scratch while I had it.
dpwhitty11 said:
You know, how a screen/screen protector breaks depends completely on the angle it hits the ground at.
Just because you had a drop with a 4H film and survived, doesn't mean it's any better. It's all about the angle. You just got lucky.
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Yes because you have tested each and every angle of drop using a 4h and an 8h to factually determine that the 8h is just that much better right?
I have experience with it, do you have any experience with it?
And I have not only dropped it 1 time by the way.
Open your mind a bit to more possibilities than what you're fed to believe by claims that have no substance.
No offense to OP!
konman795 - The only CHEAPPP protector I use is on my ipod touch 3g, and it was like $2 off ebay. - That doesnt even have any scratches and that thing has been through abuse from little cousins.
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Anyway, Believe what you guys want and spend what you want. I just wanted to express my opinion and I will leave this topic now.
To the OP - good luck with your business - and I'm not just saying that. I wish you luck.
To everyone else - (and NOT knocking OP) Do some research into products to see what is practical and what is overkill.