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Zagg screen protector

Has anyone tried the zagg screen protector for the vibrant? I watched few scratch videos and it looks like it is very durable. What I didn't like is the part where you have to apply it wet. Has anyone tried them on vibrant or any other phone?
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Mine shipped on Friday, I'll let you know as soon as I receive it and install it on the screen ... I got the easy kit, full application only to realize that I really only care about the screen ... the back is anyway cheap plastic and the phone already comes with a backup back cover ... meh, spilled milk ...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726134

dcchristopher said:
Mine shipped on Friday, I'll let you know as soon as I receive it and install it on the screen ... I got the easy kit, full application only to realize that I really only care about the screen ... the back is anyway cheap plastic and the phone already comes with a backup back cover ... meh, spilled milk ...
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lol, same here. But I only got the screen part.
I tried the invisible gadgetguard one though. Same installation process.

I will never buy another one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739482
I have changed over to the Realook and I couldn't be happier. Much more clear and much smoother.

I have the Zagg Invisible shield (screen only).. I will say it works as advertised as far as protection....
my disappointment is that my screen no longer feels like glass... its harder to use Swype because the screen is kinda rubbery and ur finger(s) dont slide as easily.
ALSO can't swear it's the reason... but trying to (for example) move the cursor when ur texting.. like trying to go back and add a ".... the precision is off... i have to try several times to get the cursor in the right place (makes me miss having a trackball).. I dont recall if this problem existed before i got the shield.

Damn, I wish I had read reviews like these before I dropped closed to thirty bucks on this crap. The protector needs to "cure" but already I can see a couple small (1cm and 2cm) straight vertical lines that at first looked like cracks (I had to throw away that pair of underwear). "Fortunately" I read the recent posts to this thread and found out it's not a problem with the screen. I thought perhaps all the squeegeeing messed it up.
The positive: it protects the screen from accidental scratches and acts like a oleophobic coating that should resist oily fingerprints (I don't know about you but I need that, bad).
The negative: the screen is no longer smooth to the touch so gestures are a little buffered but more consistent (without the shield, it would be best when the screen was clean but it would get jerky when the oil built up); the crisp picture is a little dull.
I don't think the hassle is worth it but I bet when you get that first scratch you'll wish you had the shield on. The grass is always greener on the other side.
Last but not least, at $30 for a piece of plastic, Zagg really needs to deliver perfection. This is just shameful.

If you like the Zagg, you might try www.bestskinsever.com since they're basically the same exact thing, just half the cost. I had them on my G1 and liked it. They're presently working on a Vibrant skin.

dcchristopher said:
Damn, I wish I had read reviews like these before I dropped closed to thirty bucks on this crap. The protector needs to "cure" but already I can see a couple small (1cm and 2cm) straight vertical lines that at first looked like cracks (I had to throw away that pair of underwear). "Fortunately" I read the recent posts to this thread and found out it's not a problem with the screen. I thought perhaps all the squeegeeing messed it up.
The positive: it protects the screen from accidental scratches and acts like a oleophobic coating that should resist oily fingerprints (I don't know about you but I need that, bad).
The negative: the screen is no longer smooth to the touch so gestures are a little buffered but more consistent (without the shield, it would be best when the screen was clean but it would get jerky when the oil built up); the crisp picture is a little dull.
I don't think the hassle is worth it but I bet when you get that first scratch you'll wish you had the shield on. The grass is always greener on the other side.
Last but not least, at $30 for a piece of plastic, Zagg really needs to deliver perfection. This is just shameful.
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Just request a full refund. They should honor their money back guarantee as long as you're still within the time period.

Just received mine and really am not disappointed with the product it is a little less glass like but is not hard to use swype, clarity seems the same and screen response is about the same I could tell a little drag with the screen nothing crazy,i will say onr thing that confuses me is the back cover does not even cover the edges which is very word to me considering that's the most likely part it will land on. I'd give it an overall 7 out of 10. For the price there are better alternatives but it willdo the job. As far as the vertical line problem I cannot comment on that as mine did not have that problem.
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I took it off ... got tired of looking at the wavy pattern of the plastic and the two "imperfections" on the shield ... I'd rather look at scratches. Plus, trying to swype only to fall short of the letter I was aiming for got old quick (the skin loses momentum from the extra resistance that the membrane introduces).
Anyone who claims their screen looks roughly the same after the Zagg Shield treatment is smoking something that he/she should share with the rest of us.
I also contacted Zagg regarding a refund ... let's see how that goes.

dcchristopher said:
I took it off ... got tired of looking at the wavy pattern of the plastic and the two "imperfections" on the shield ... I'd rather look at scratches. Plus, trying to swype only to fall short of the letter I was aiming for got old quick (the skin loses momentum from the extra resistance that the membrane introduces).
Anyone who claims their screen looks roughly the same after the Zagg Shield treatment is smoking something that he/she should share with the rest of us.
I also contacted Zagg regarding a refund ... let's see how that goes.
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I took off the Zagg too. I just couldn't handle the look and feel.
Go get the Realook and you'll be very pleased. Search Realook Vibrant on Ebay and get it from the seller "realook". Shipping is free and super fast (I got mine in two days and other have reported next day delivery).

Pneumatic said:
I took off the Zagg too. I just couldn't handle the look and feel.
Go get the Realook and you'll be very pleased. Search Realook Vibrant on Ebay and get it from the seller "realook". Shipping is free and super fast (I got mine in two days and other have reported next day delivery).
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Thank you sir! I will check it out.

BTW, folks, if one searches for Samsung Galaxy Gorilla, one finds many references to the Galaxy S phones having a Gorilla screen that is scratch-resistant (which is an understatement for the kind of abuse they can withstand). Sounds to me like many of us wasted time and money to protect something that didn't really need the protection. Just my two cents (albeit very, very late).
Good luck to all with their screen protection strategy.

Ghost Armor...
Ghost Armor...look into it! thinner than invisible shield so it's more responsive and doesn't get that orange peel...same lifetime guarantee, overall better product!

Well I got my 2 zagg screens, applied first 2 nasty vertical lines on the screen. removed it next day. Applied second thought what are the chances in getting two defective screens... same thing but this time only 1 line. Keeping this one on until my realook arrives.

Love my screen. Invisi sheild ftw
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I thought I'd input my 2 cents on this topic:
I got this directly from the manager of the 3M distribution facility for my area...
3M owns the patent for this kind of protection film.
Clearbra, Zagg, BestSkinsEver, basically anyone saying their product was designed for military use (on helicopter blades), they are all getting their materials from 3M. The only difference between vendors is the measurements they take, and ultimately the template they use for the application.
It sounds like Realook is a different material since it doesn't have that same rubbery feel to it, so they are probably not getting their stuff from 3M.

brodie7838 said:
It sounds like Realook is a different material since it doesn't have that same rubbery feel to it, so they are probably not getting their stuff from 3M.
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Having had both on my Vibrant I can tell you that they are definitely different material. The Zagg is flimsy rubber feeling material that requires water to install, the Realook is a harder plastic feeling material that appears to cling to the screen as it touches it.
After having both on the phone I can say without a doubt that the Realook is the superior product. It goes on easier, it's transparent, and it feels like the original glass.
Side note... I showed a buddy my phone the other day and he was playing around with it for a few minutes watching Avatar and playing a game. As he handed it back to me he said "you going to put a screen protector on there?" I said "It already has one". He looked again and he still couldn't tell that it was there, even after I told him.
Realook for the win!

Shields and screenprotectors experience topic

There are many topics in this forum about screenprotectors and shield. That's why I decided to make one topic on this subject based on my experience. I've used protectors for the Xperia X1 and the HTC Desire, i've used the following:
Screenprotectors
Brando UltraClear My experience with the Brando's are very good. They are easy to install as they don't use glue, but some kind of static energy, I don't know what it is exactly. Due this, they can be reapplied by peeling them off and reapply them. And you can even clean them with water. This is also a disadvantage, as the protector can move a little around the screen and can be lifted up by sharp objects.
Color distortion due the brando is negligible and in my opinion the brando's have a nice feel to them, which is of course quit important for a screenprotector.
Ebay I've had some experience with these protectors, and while they are cheap, I'm not a big fan of them. They feel cheap and there is too much resistance while touching the screen. I also have my doubts about the protection, especially with sharp objects penetrating the protector, but I have no experience with that. Color distortion depends on how you apply the protector, I have seen some people with some vague lines on the screen due these protectors.
Martin Fields These appear to be the best protectors but I have no experience with them. Please post your experience so this can be a nice overview topic
Shields
StealthGuards This is the shield/screenprotector i use at the moment. The problem with shields is that over time, the small parts (in my case the side of the phone) tends to get loose. That happened to my Zagg shield which I originally bought for my Desire. Since I didn't want to spend $25,- again I browsed around the internet and found this alternative. They are incredibly cheap (Free + shipping, so around $2,-) and hard to beat at that price. The feel of the screenprotector isn't as nice as from the brando. But it's better then the Zagg and good enough for all day use.
The protection you get is very good, every part of the phone is protected by some plastic looking and feeling material. The StealthGuards offers the same protection as the Zagg, and scratches automagically restore as long as they aren't too deep. So you have a lot of extra protection without the bulk and at a low price. Disadvantage could be that your phone gets more glossy. For a matte phone like the desire this isn't something i'm happy about, but you can order matte shields for a small price (which I didn't btw, so I'm not sure how that will look). Also you can't reapply them as they use some kind of glue. Personally I didn't have any problems peeling them off (no glue left on the phone, or easily removable).
ZaggIs more or less the same as the StealthGuard, but more expansive. You do get 2 year warrenty and free replacement for that price, and I guess it's more scratch resistant but with normal use the SG is sufficient for me. I've scratched both with my keys and didn't see much difference. They have more resistance then the SG and I wasn't a big fan of using the Zagg as screenprotector so i ordered a Brando. Installation is better then SG, as SG doesn't even provide instructions or the installation fluid (but you don't need it really, I just pushed it on the phone and it sticked).
BSE is mentioned in this post and is also a cheaper alternative to Zagg.
Installation
For installation of your protector I recommand BillTheCat's excellent installation technique post that can be found here
Conclusion
On a low budget I recommend the StealthGuards, as they are dirty cheap, offer way better protection then the cheap ebay protections and feel better. If you have some more money to spend I would go for a SG + Brando UltraClear combination. This is primarily for the feel on the touchscreen, which I like a lot on the brando. Maybe the MF is better, but I can't recommend it as I personally never used one.
If you have a lot the spend you could look into the Zagg, but you will definitely want another screenprotector alongside the Zagg, which makes it even more pricy. I guess it's protection is better then the SG, but I doubt you'll need it.
This is all based on my personal experience I had with these products, yours can be entirely different and if so, please post it below. I will update this post if users provide useful descriptions on there phone protections.

Great post! A lot of useful information here for those looking to get a screen protector for their phone.
I only have experience with the Zagg Invisible Shield. I tried it on my old hero, and while it's a solid product I just couldn' get used to the way it felt uner my fingertips. I ended up removing it after only 4 days of use. That being said, when I recently retired the old Hero it didn't have a single mark on the screen. So, for me the screen protector from Zagg didn't do anything except lower the usability of my phone.
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Nice post.... I got a nice HTC branded pouch from amazon for £7.50 ($12.20) and it's great.
amazon.co.uk/HTC-Pouch-PO-S520-smartphone/dp/B003HRZRCE/

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Nice post.... I got a nice HTC branded pouch from amazon for £7.50 ($12.20) and it's great.
amazon.co.uk/HTC-Pouch-PO-S520-smartphone/dp/B003HRZRCE/
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I don't like pouches, they add weight and slow the process of quickly checking my phone This one looks nice though

I've been using Martin Fields protectors for a few years now. Better quality than most and cut very well so that they cover the entire screen. Easy to apply without bubbles forming and can be removed without leaving residue on the screen.
One thing that i have noticed is a discoloration/wearing on the shield in the most frequently used areas of the screen. It's only noticeable when the screen is off though.
These are very costly compared to most but offer a good level of protection and last for ages.

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I've been using Martin Fields protectors for a few years now. Better quality than most and cut very well so that they cover the entire screen. Easy to apply without bubbles forming and can be removed without leaving residue on the screen.
One thing that i have noticed is a discoloration/wearing on the shield in the most frequently used areas of the screen. It's only noticeable when the screen is off though.
These are very costly compared to most but offer a good level of protection and last for ages.
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I heard the same story, since my protector is slightly damaged after 3/4 year of heavy use i'm thinking of buying one and check them out. How does the martin field feel compared to the original screen?

cyleo said:
I heard the same story, since my protector is slightly damaged after 3/4 year of heavy use i'm thinking of buying one and check them out. How does the martin field feel compared to the original screen?
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I actually found the naked N1 screen a bit hard to get along with. My finger wouldn't swipe across smoothly and felt 'sticky'. The MF protector was actually an improvement although it takes a days use to wear in properly. I've had the same protector on for a year now and it's still going strong

i use a zagg and love it! goes on great but does feel funny something you just have to get use to the only bad thing i noticed is when i tried to put the one from my white streak on my black streak the screen was totally unresponsive so i had to get a new one bestbuy replaced it so no big deal couple of my friends had the same problem so i guess you can't use it more than once. it will mark up i dropped my streak and tried to stop it with my shoe and ended up kicking it across the room and it put 2 small marks on the zagg but other than that its great and i do recommend it. a little pricey though!

A very good alternative, actually better and a lot cheaper than Zagg, is BSE: http://www.bestskinsever.com/
I started using them on my last 3 devices and have never looked at another product since.

XPerties said:
A very good alternative, actually better and a lot cheaper than Zagg, is BSE: http://www.bestskinsever.com/
I started using them on my last 3 devices and have never looked at another product since.
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+1 for BSE, I've used them on almost every phone since my BlackBerry days. I've tried others and keep going back.

The ShieldGuards are really good they might be better than zagg I recommend this

Invisible Shield from Zagg is always a good choich but a little bit pricey. They just recently released the universal screen pack to Radioshack so they should be available to you locally. Which is always ideal for me.
They price at 14.99 for three.

I have never tried bestskinsever, but I used Zagg a couple of times when it was still called Invisible Shield.
Is bestskinsever the same sort of product? That is, is it sticky to touch, or does the finger slide like it does on the screen?
Also, does the screen protector part have the orange peel effect, or is it mirror-like, like a normal screen protector?
The Zagg style protectors are fantastic for the body of electronics items, but imho very bad news for screens, especially touch screens.

Updated startpost with BSE. I will take some pictures of the Stealthguard installed on my device

Im thinking about getting a zagg. they just gave me a simple screen protector from verizon when i picked up my thunderbolt. definitely not going to cut it.

Updated OP with link to the installation technique guide from BillTheCat

Skinomi its good too! Easy to put on only sucky part is u have to wait 12-24 hours for it to dry (
Sent from a flashed CM7 myTouch 4g

winxx said:
Skinomi its good too! Easy to put on only sucky part is u have to wait 12-24 hours for it to dry (
Sent from a flashed CM7 myTouch 4g
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Those are new to me. How do they feel and react to scratches?

bought my hd 2 with a screenprotector today and the protector is shining under the sun. can't see a thing.

It seems the StealthGuard is no longer free, however, for $10,- you get 2 protectors, so it's still very competitive when compared to the others.
Edit: There seems to be a workaround and still get the protectors for free if you sign up to become a devaffiliate. I haven't tried this myself (mine is still on), but it's worth a shot. (here or here)

Disappointed with Zaggs InvisibleShield for E4GT

I got the Zaggs I ordered for half price on black friday today...
Very disappointed with the E4GT full-body shield. The back cover's texture prevents a good seal, so it looks shrink-wrapped. The side panels are not cut accurately enough, so there are gaps and overlaps.
Overall, not good.
My wife's Nexus S full-body shield was perfect, however.

Never been a big fan of soft film type protectors.
I like the ones that are hard and go on dry but these type do get scratched and I count on having to replace them once or twice a year. I had a Steinheil protector for my Incredible that was cut absolutely prefect, never had a protector fit so good. I was so impressed with it, I bought one for the EVO 4G and the cut was not that good. I think it's hit or miss for lots companies.

I used invisishield for 3 years on the iphone until I realized that the screen is more scratch and smudge resistant than any of these shields are. And naked glass just feels way better to the touch too. Forget screens, save your money.
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I used clear armor for the iphone 3G and loved it, but that phone didn't have a back. I am currently using a TPU case and their updated screen protector and am happy with it, all for about $15

I'm using the screen shield, which is pretty good/pretty standard for Zagg. I can't vouch for the body protector though.
I usually prefer the Bodyguardz to the Zagg, but it was available in the store so I went with the Invisible Shield. The Bodyguardz always seem to have a little more firm and smooth surface.

OP did you get the wet or the dry one?

jblues1969 said:
I got the Zaggs I ordered for half price on black friday today...
Very disappointed with the E4GT full-body shield. The back cover's texture prevents a good seal, so it looks shrink-wrapped. The side panels are not cut accurately enough, so there are gaps and overlaps.
Overall, not good.
My wife's Nexus S full-body shield was perfect, however.
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The back cover texture of the ET4G isn't Zagg's fault. Maybe you just got a crappy install. I have one and other than the back cover (which really doesn't need to be wrapped anyways) it looks great. I have it in a CaseMate Pop case too and it seems practically indestructible.

No, I had the wet one, by the way. I installed myself and the back cover eventually got better over the texture, but the overall fit was 2mm short in width. I found the camera opening to be much too large also. Just a bad fit. The screen protector was the best part of it, but I still didn't like it - not perfectly transparent and had an iridescence to it that hurt visibility.

I am currently using a Steinheil protector on my touch with a matte black tpu case and love the original look of the glass and slim profile of the case. My sister had invisishield on hers and it made the screen looks funky (the one where you spray there little solution to put on). The steinheil protector fits better than the invisishield and feels better too. if you use an exacto knife and cut the area that covers the volume button then it makes the button 10x easier to press(but hard to accidentally press it). I recommend you give ste steinheil a try. No, I don't work for them haha.

jblues1969 said:
I got the Zaggs I ordered for half price on black friday today...
Very disappointed with the E4GT full-body shield. The back cover's texture prevents a good seal, so it looks shrink-wrapped. The side panels are not cut accurately enough, so there are gaps and overlaps.
Overall, not good.
My wife's Nexus S full-body shield was perfect, however.
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idk about u but mine fits perfectly and it looks quite nice. i think its just the matter of how u put it on. i spent like 15-30 mins on mine. but it was worth the time

I thought the epic touch used gorilla glass? does it even need a screenie?

I dont like my zaggs either, but it was available so i figured id try.

phantom skinz ftw! Same as invisishield but without the orange peel effect, it smooth..
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I thought the epic touch used gorilla glass? does it even need a screenie?
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It does but it still glass, wheather or not they say it scratch resistant. It not, that advertising for ya.. Just like when you buy a phone that comes with 16gb. It not really 16 gb more like 15 something or 14 something..

MikeC84 said:
It does but it still glass, wheather or not they say it scratch resistant. It not, that advertising for ya.. Just like when you buy a phone that comes with 16gb. It not really 16 gb more like 15 something or 14 something..
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It does come with 16, just 1-2gbs are used by the system. The OS has to live somewhere on the device.
And you don't really NEED a screen protector on this with the Gorilla glass. I've done tests of this stuff and its pretty strong, you screenie is far less scratch resident, and I personally like the feel and look of the bare glass, but you will always be better off with one. Just in case.
IMO the supper expensive ones are worth it when the screen is as good as it is now, a cheeper one is fine.
EDIT: Just the other day I dropped my epic face down, no protector, and it slid about 2 feet across asfault. I picked it up, brushed it off, and went on my way. No damage

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It does come with 16, just 1-2gbs are used by the system. The OS has to live somewhere on the device.
And you don't really NEED a screen protector on this with the Gorilla glass. I've done tests of this stuff and its pretty strong, you screenie is far less scratch resident, and I personally like the feel and look of the bare glass, but you will always be better off with one. Just in case.
IMO the supper expensive ones are worth it when the screen is as good as it is now, a cheeper one is fine.
EDIT: Just the other day I dropped my epic face down, no protector, and it slid about 2 feet across asfault. I picked it up, brushed it off, and went on my way. No damage
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More than just one of myCIS teachers have said the same thing in their lectures, it all about advertising. Then tell me why when I format my 8GB mini sd card it says the total space is only 7.41? There is nothing on there.

this is a bit of an ego fight between software guys and hardware guys.
Hardware guys see a megabyte as 1000 kb and a Gigabyte as 1000 mb
so 8gb is 8000mb and they really are about this big.
but SOFTWARE guys see a megabyte as 1024kb and a gigabyte as 1024mb
do the math. 8000 divided by 1024 is what?
7.8125 now add in the space "formatting" always consumes and you get your 7.4gb
this is why 16gb is 15.625gb in 1024 language and then add in overhead and your at what? 14.61gb or something like that?

Costs way too much for a screen protector.
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I just put the wet zagg on my ET4G and noticed that it's not perfectly matched to the phone also. The statement about it being 2mm too narrow is pretty accurate. I ended up lining it up with the right edge of the screen so that i have a full 2mm gap at the left side. I usually hold my phone with cap. buttons on the right when I'm in landscape, so this way my finger doesn't catch a lip of the protector when i'm swiping the notification bar down.
As for the discussion about whether Gorilla Glass needs a protector, I have to say for the most part I agree, it doesn't. However, my OG epic did end up with a few scratches that were very light and not visible with the screen on. Given a perfect install, however, I am always happier with the ZAGG shields because of the 'orange peel' look being better for glare and fingerprints. If it isn't perfect, it always bothers me.
Can't speak for the back cover but I didn't really want one anyway. Also, FYI, radio shack has the invisibleshields on sale for 14.99 in store right now. A little more expensive than online but they will install it for you for free if you wait around, or exchange it if you screw up (according to the manager I talked to yesterday).

I would recommend the steinheil ultra crystal screen protector if you want to use one. I have tried five or six different ones, this one is nice and clear seems like othingi s on there.
It DOES wear over time, I got about 50 days of HARD use out of one before the scratches got too bad to bear, some big ones too.
Glass underneath, good as new. I am afraid of scratching the glass to be honest, so I will be lighter and try and get more life per cover. I would like 3 or four months at $7.50 each so...
JC

I had Zagg for the past 3-4 years and I loved it until I upgraded to this phone --- then headed to the local mall and at one of those little kiosks the guy was doing the whole phone in a 3M Alternative for $20 bucks. I'll never go back to Zagg. You can barely feel anything on it, plus the thing I hated most about Zagg is that sticky feeling --- not even close to the 3M. Definitely would recommend stopping by and finding the 3M kiosk. Wayyyy better IMO

Xtreme Guard Screen Protectors - $1.99 ea

Pretty cheap, and if you need to replace one, you're not out much
http://www.ebay.com/itm/320803239584?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_2415wt_1373

Normally one of the first screen protectors on ebay after a phones release. Im not of fan of wet installation screen protectors. You get what you pay for. Mines barely lasted a week.

I've used those Invisible Shields for a LONG time. I'm a big fan, but not for touch screen devices. They're good for the sides and the back and such, but I don't care for them for the feeling they have when you try to slide your finger over the "glass." Strange. Regardless, if you DO like them, I'd highly recommend Zagg Invisible Shield. They're over priced but they've never let me down yet.

i don't get it guys? how is that the screen protectors fall off your phone? if you install it properly without any bubbles last even 1 year.unless gets too many scratch on it and i wanna put on a new one.never happend to me.and i always buy cheap ones.like 10 pieces for 3 pounds!
cheers!

Bad. Real bad stuff. They are kinda stuffy. Soft. More like thin layer of rubber. Can barely be used for touch screen, without having touchy fingers.
I bought them for my Samsung Focus and they aren't really good for the screen. For the sides and back, this case might be ordered.

vasishta.sushant said:
Bad. Real bad stuff. They are kinda stuffy. Soft. More like thin layer of rubber. Can barely be used for touch screen, without having touchy fingers.
I bought them for my Samsung Focus and they aren't really good for the screen. For the sides and back, this case might be ordered.
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They have sold over 300 of them. I guess if they are as crappy as you say, I will say so in my feedback.

I bought one. Was actually just looking for a dry screen protector. Didn't realize it was similar to a zagg shield until I opened it up.
If you follow the directions it only takes a few minutes to apply.
I don't like the rubbery feel...but for 2 bucks it works. Just a side note...if you use the s pen you can see the markings on the screen protector. I'll be on the lookout for a cheap replacement because that is a little annoying.

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Did I not tell ya That thing is good enough for everything but the screen.

I just got one partly due to prices, mainly per delivery time-fastest. I didn't know it was a wet installation and with the feedbacks i am apprehensive on using it. Any problems peeling it off the screen and did it leave unremovable streak marks for those that have used it?

No problems with the removal or leftout marks. At least give it a try.

There is no REAL issue with it, and if it's properly installed it will last a while. I don't use any additional cases and all the in-out action of my pocket usually takes off the screen protector, sides, or back within 2-3 weeks.
It has sold over 300 of them because they're so cheap. People will say "for two bucks, I'll give it a try" and even I was about to buy one until I realized that it's a zagg pretty much. Gimme a TPU / Hard shell case any day and those e-cell screen guards and I'm good.

any screen guard which dosent get scratched with s-pen?

Have one on my note, got ripped off cause I have bought it on the official website for five bucks. Personally, the rubber skin feels right, I have the same on all my other devices : touchpad, sgs 1, sgs 2, transformer, etc...
But with Note it is just impossible to make it last longer than a month with the s pen : I drew like 2 minutes and there already is several deep scratches in the rubber layer, very annoying and it messes the vision of the screen.
So for the note it's a no go imho, I'll invest in a dry protection I guess...
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Just got mine today. They are thick and seem durable, but you simply cannot use the stylus on it effectively. That must be why they're $1.99

Yeah it is annoying the indentations caused by the stylus, but at least it is offering me protection while I wait for my long term solution to arrive by mail

I bought one of those $1.99 screen protectors for my note, had it on for 5 minutes then promptly ripped it off and threw it away. The S-pen leaves trails and I was hoping it would be clearer than the matte finish protector I received with the phone but it was just as fuzzy or rainbowish. Waiting on an Ultra Optic now and will accept it even if its not as clear as I want.

DBA "Just Like Glass®" Screen Protector - ZAGG Killer?

DBA is a lesser-known company specializing in phone cases and screen protectors. One of their newer products, the "Just Like Glass®" screen protector promises to be the best screen protector you'll ever have.
Here's what Scott of DBA has to say about the screen protector:
We also had an independent third party test directly against ZAGG and destroyed them.
Testing with Laser Beams for distortion, regular glass of course had 0, Just Like Glass had 11.50, and Zagg had 666.
ZAGG doesn't even claim to increase the break resistance of the glass while ours has tested for an increase of near 40%.
In a wear test equivalent to putting it in and out of your pocket ZAGG showed wear after 345 times and our showed no wear even after 10,000.
ZAGG is more scratch resistant but at the cost of creating the distortion. And the difference isn't that great.
Just like glass screen protectors are stain proof. You can get makeup on the, dirt, oil, dye, etc... and you can wipe it off. ZAGG you can't. I personally tested ours with a black sharpie (not really the best decision looking back on it) and it did come off with a little elbow grease.
As far as being smoother than glass, if you use glass as the baseline Just Like Glass is 20% smoother while ZAGG was -147%. You can really feel it.
Ours don't have the orange peel effect that ZAGG does.
I wouldn't be doing this at all if I didn't have something that I would use and that was better than everything else.
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It's a wet-application (like ZAGG), but the included application kit makes it easy. This protector covers the viewing area, allowing it to work with cases perfectly.
It looks very promising and costs only $13.50 (by comparison, the ZAGG protector is $14.99).
Here's the site: DBA "Just Like Glass®"

I had a heck of a time getting it out of the plastic and in the process it got dimples from trying to pull it out. I contacted them to see if they will get a replacement sent out what a bad experience because they decided to make the plastic bag it comes in too damn tight with no leeway at all. The other con I noticed is it says to use a hard card but it does not come with one so I used the squeeze I have from Skinomi that I used on the Transformer Prime tablet.
Now I do have to admit it does feel like glass and not the soft rubbery feel I am use to with my mothers Skinomi. I always hate how the Skinomi drags on the tablet but this no drag at all. I will let you know how customer support is like after contacting them for a replacement for this one that got dimpled getting it out of the too tight plastic bag. Next time I will use a knife to cut the bag instead of trying to pull it out.
Oh and one more thing no sensitivity decrease at all that I can tell. I will try to get some pictures of it with my mothers camera to post but just to let you know it just a few mm larger than the screen so only covers the screen so great for cases.
I also tested the permanent marker on a piece of the excess plastic that I pulled it from and the marker after drying wiped right off so definitely appears to hold up to the claim of stain proof.

I guarantee you they will have issues calling it glass. You guys have no idea how dumb people are when it comes to these things.

Now I'm curious.

How was the fit on the screen? Full to the edge coverage? Custom cutouts or just a chunk cut out?

I'm interested in this. Anyone else who bought willing to share?

Ok here is the pictures I promised. BTW I was not able to attach the pictures here got a security token was missing error.. any idea why? I was only able to attach picture by uploading from a picture site like Photobucket. Anyways I think I did a pretty good job of these pictures and you will see the 3 blemishes/dimples I caused pulling the protector out of the plastic but it came out better than I thought it would for only my second wet application install.
The fit is just about 1-2 mm larger than the screen so it only covers the screen and really works well with my case. The case is quite narrow for one with a kickstand and been very happy with the $10 purchase for it.

pmoradi2002 said:
I guarantee you they will have issues calling it glass. You guys have no idea how dumb people are when it comes to these things.
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Everyone in every retail setting will tell you customers are dumb. Letting those customers know on a forum is a bad thing for your business.

From the DBA website, it appears that this is a fairly new company; a start-up by one individual. Do we have any independent evaluation of his claims regarding his screen protector and cases?

So this only covers the screen area and not the full frontal glass?

kuratsu said:
So this only covers the screen area and not the full frontal glass?
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Yes just like the pictures show. You can see the edges on the top down view of the phone. It's the area I was worried about and it is not rubbery or tacky like on my mothers Skinomi.

Century21J said:
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I'm guessing that's what the other guy did for spectre?
this looks promising. the thing i hate about wet application is the tacky feel to it. but if this promises to be "just like glass", might be worth trying it out.
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Yeah it's not a bad price and definitely not rubbery/tacky at all. BTW if you have any other questions on it let me know I'll answer to the best of my knowledge this was my first actual review so hope I covered all the bases in what was important to know Hope it was useful to you all.

Just Like Glass Screen Protectors
Hey all,
I'm not really new but I tend to post on other forums. I come here for the good stuff on rooting.
I'm the CEO of DBA Cases, Inc.
I did start the company, however I had several investors. After having an Original Droid, a Bionic, and a Galaxy Nexus I had a very good idea of what people liked.
Personally I hated screen protectors and was not going to sell one until we came up with this. I have it on my phone and love it. It protects against breaks as well - my photographer asked me why I went into making cases so I took the phone out of the case and it squirted out of my hand - hit the wall and then our tile floor. No damage at all to the phone but a very small micro scratch on the Just Like Glass Protector. It probably would have shattered. I've found that the most you can do is give it micro scratches - you can't feel them or see them with the screen on. That's what I got from the fall and it doesn't bother me at all.
I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have.
Scott

molitar said:
Nice idea but I can not buy any case without a kickstand I watch alot of videos on mine.
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I completely understand. I wanted to put a kickstand on the Ultra but it would have been too bulky. Also the cost of adding a kickstand is nearly the same amount as making the mold for the case.
I have a different solution I use.
I'm planning on making my own stand but I have them wherever I may need it.
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While I'm taking pictures...
The Ultra and the Thin Grip
Please ignore the mess behind them.

The case does not look that much skinnier than the Amaze I am using which does have a kickstand.

Promising
Looks pretty cool. How does it keep your screen safe? doest it last well?

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How can you tell how thin the cases are from my picture
Stands must be made out of polycarbonate or abs in order to hold the case up. That means some bulk. It doesn't have to be a ton but I looked into a ton of stands and didn't decide to do it.
I wanted to - in fact I was going to make a stand of the same material they use in snap watches would would be made of TPU. Press a button and the stand comes out and can bend.
Problem is that it increases the cost of the case by at least $10,000. In fact I was talking to the CEO of another case company last week and he said it took three molds to make his stand. That's a ton of money.
Since I had a budget I decided to do without - some day.
Both of my cases could not be any thinner than they are.
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I was looking at the depth where the camera lens is. Yes it is a thinner but I was just commenting not that much thinner considering that the Amaze is a bit thicker with the kickstand. I really am impressed how thin the Amaze is with a kickstand as most are bulky considerably with a kickstand. The sides look the same almost in width as yours but the back is probably about twice as thick as yours due to the kickstand. It may not be a very strong kickstand but strong enough for regular use as long as don't drop it with it out as it has the really skinny piece of support plastic that holds it open the other part of the kickstand is quite thick. The stand itself is about 2mm thick and the plastic support is only I would say about 1mm thick.
Now the screwdriver portion was not that impressive as there is no way to tell how much force is being used each time. But the screwdriver and rotary was quite impressive as there was no getting around how hard the screen was being hit by that key. The only thing I notice is the oil from my hands tends to smudge the screen more than the glass but for the protection I can live with that but would be nice if they found a way to eliminate some of the smudges with it. Other than that really happy with the screen and registering on the site for the replacement so I can get this one replaced without the 4 dimple spots. BTW a video installing it would be a good idea I used the shower method in bathroom for dust and lint.

molitar said:
I was looking at the depth where the camera lens is. Yes it is a thinner but I was just commenting not that much thinner considering that the Amaze is a bit thicker with the kickstand. I really am impressed how thin the Amaze is with a kickstand as most are bulky considerably with a kickstand. The sides look the same almost in width as yours but the back is probably about twice as thick as yours due to the kickstand. It may not be a very strong kickstand but strong enough for regular use as long as don't drop it with it out as it has the really skinny piece of support plastic that holds it open the other part of the kickstand is quite thick. The stand itself is about 2mm thick and the plastic support is only I would say about 1mm thick.
Now the screwdriver portion was not that impressive as there is no way to tell how much force is being used each time. But the screwdriver and rotary was quite impressive as there was no getting around how hard the screen was being hit by that key. The only thing I notice is the oil from my hands tends to smudge the screen more than the glass but for the protection I can live with that but would be nice if they found a way to eliminate some of the smudges with it. Other than that really happy with the screen and registering on the site for the replacement so I can get this one replaced without the 4 dimple spots. BTW a video installing it would be a good idea I used the shower method in bathroom for dust and lint.
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We are going to do a video soon for installing but the instructions on the site are the newest versions. Doing it in the shower is the safest method but if I suggest it people probably will freak out about how hard it is when it's really pretty easy.
In the video that was a glass puncher. I know it's hard to tell how hard it's being pushed but it's the same force. One is done on the film which stops the force and one on the glass which does not. The key test was pretty intense and then taking the rotary to it was cool. (if people are wondering it's on the Facebook page).
Samsung with the Galaxy Nexus and the S3 have made great glass that doesn't pick up prints. The one irritation about the protector I have is that it does. Not terribly but I'm used to not worrying about it. We are working on a way to get rid of the micro scratches and the fingerprints. The problem is if we add a layer it makes it feel more plastic and ruins the visibility. It has to be a chemistry solution and I didn't take chemistry in college so I just ask them to try...

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I wonder how these screen protectors compare to the ZAGG EXTREME