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The people that pre-ordered from Rogers would be receiving units by now. Anything unique besides the branding ? Are features same? And what are the frequenecies listed on the side of the box? (pics please)
Anything else different or unique from what has been written about the AT&T model, please post here.
Picked up the Lumia 900 from my local Rogers store yesterday as soon as I got the call.
As you mentioned, the box is slightly different than what I've seen from the AT&T unboxing videos.
The unit itself thankfully has no Rogers branding whatsoever on it, so the Nokia logo is nicely centered unlike the AT&T version.
Another thing of note I guess is that the rogers version comes with a nokia in-ear headset (albeit cheap-looking).
Everything else is pretty much the same as the ATT (except no "Do not TXT and Drive" warning adhesive on device, just clear plastic ).
Sorry for no pics but I can list the frequencies for you that is on side of box:
Nokia 900.1 RM -808 ROGCA Black
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA/HSPA 850/900/1700/1900/2100
Hope that helps!
keepo12 said:
Picked up the Lumia 900 from my local Rogers store yesterday as soon as I got the call.
As you mentioned, the box is slightly different than what I've seen from the AT&T unboxing videos.
The unit itself thankfully has no Rogers branding whatsoever on it, so the Nokia logo is nicely centered unlike the AT&T version.
Another thing of note I guess is that the rogers version comes with a nokia in-ear headset (albeit cheap-looking).
Everything else is pretty much the same as the ATT (except no "Do not TXT and Drive" warning adhesive on device, just clear plastic ).
Sorry for no pics but I can list the frequencies for you that is on side of box:
Nokia 900.1 RM -808 ROGCA Black
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA/HSPA 850/900/1700/1900/2100
Hope that helps!
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Pics of the HSPA Bands? I wonder if the ATT version just has the 900/1700 bands disabled through firmware
keepo12 said:
Sorry for no pics but I can list the frequencies for you that is on side of box:
Nokia 900.1 RM -808 ROGCA Black
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA/HSPA 850/900/1700/1900/2100
Hope that helps!
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HELLO !!! Those specs are very nice !! If those bands are true
WCDMA/HSPA 850/900/1700/1900/2100, then if unlocked should work quite nicely with Mobilicity. T-Mobile people in the USA will want to take note !
I'll have to see if Rogers store has got any to sell. I'm not a Rogers customer and could not do a pre-order.
you guys could go to the website lol.
heres a pic, sorry for my awesome circle
http://i42.tinypic.com/o925qf.png
There IS a Rogers boot logo when you start up the phone unfortunately. Rogers also preinstalled a few apps but like all WPs, these are removable.
(Got mine yesterday as well)
Love to see a pic of the front. These are unlocked?
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you guys could go to the website lol.
heres a pic, sorry for my awesome circle
http://i42.tinypic.com/o925qf.png
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Well in typical fashion what is stated on the website and what is on the side of the box don't match ! This is why I ask the question because websites are hand typed by humans and they get it wrong. Especially at Rogers ! When I bought my Lumia 710 there, the specs on the website had no mention of 1700/2100 bands, yet the box had it listed. I unlocked my 710 and works like a charm on Mobilicity.
The box for the Lumia 900 is exactly what the 710 has, and there is no mention of LTE bands on the box at all. So more investigation is needed. But this is very encouraging to see.
I have verified at a WirelessWave kiosk (they had stock), and called a few Rogers store, and found a 1 store with stock. I would have bought it at WirelessWave but they would only sell off contract with a protection plan. The protection plan was another $100. No thanks!
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA/HSPA 850/900/1700/1900/2100
On my way out the door in 10 minutes. Need to do some more reading first.
If these are unlockable and have unrestricted tethering I think we have a real winner on our hands for using with T-Mobile.
What is the tethering situation?
It has potential. Here is a picture from the unit that I just bought. No pre-order, no waiting, just called around to see who had stock. Rogers store just south of me had them. I asked if they would sell off contract and they said sure. Went to store, no muss no fuss, checked the spec before making purchase, and here is the picture!
Will try to unlock now. I suspect that might take a day or two by the sounds of things.
Okay... paid for unlock code.. 35 minutes later... it arrived !
Now the snag... seems I'm not getting any reception. Wireless (WiFi) works, but no cell reception or carrier name coming up.
Checking in Nokia Apps, there is no Network Setup App on the phone or appearing to be available in the Market Place. Uh-oh....
Anyone got any suggestions?
Well...
I'm also with Mobilicity and I've been waiting on a confirmation that the phone has the AWS Band 4 frequency (1700). I'm afraid to say that the Lumia 900 clearly doesn't have the necessary bands even though the box says it does. I got my hopes up too, but it seems pretty definitive here. If you unlocked it and popped in the Sim card you should get phone reception no problem, you would only need the network app to configure the Data, but phone should definitely show bars within a min or so.
This blows big time. I say return it now that you've confirmed it doesn't have the frequency. But, complain big time to Nokia, because this is not right! Absolutely ridiculous that the box lists the frequency!
Hmm... in Settings>system>cellular right now. Punched in the APN. It does find Bell, Telus and CDN Roaming. No matter what Mobilicity or Wind is not there. Not giving up on this yet....
but,
that's the settings for data. If the phone had the 1700 frequency it would work on it's own, at least the phone. You'd be able to make and receive calls. Every phone I ever used, once you pop in the SIM card, if it has the frequency it will work at least to make calls. I don't see what can be done. The settings on the phone are limited, even IF it has the frequency and it's been disabled or something, nothing we can do, we can't enable it
I'm bummed about this too. I have the Lumia 710 on Mobilicity and was hoping this bad boy would work.
Try restarting the phone, pulling out the battery for 30 sec, and doing a hard reset....although I don't think it would do much. Let me know.
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oops, forgot battery can't be pulled.
Yes... it could be Rogers has some kind of other lock on it ? When WiFi is tunred on I can surf no issue. I went to the Market Place and the Network Setup App is not there. Could be Rogers has a profile setup on the phone and that cannot be changed?
I have a Lumia 710 as well and that is on Mobilicity with no issue other than standard unlock. I think the bands are right on the box (I took a pic and posted) but seems there is some other kind of lock.
PS: the 900 is a completely sealed phone... cannot pull battery. Will try a factory reset though.
PaullikesWINMO said:
Okay... paid for unlock code.. 35 minutes later... it arrived !
Now the snag... seems I'm not getting any reception. Wireless (WiFi) works, but no cell reception or carrier name coming up.
Checking in Nokia Apps, there is no Network Setup App on the phone or appearing to be available in the Market Place. Uh-oh....
Anyone got any suggestions?
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Where did you pay for the unlock code, exactly? I'm skeptical about most places. Thanks!
PaullikesWINMO said:
Yes... it could be Rogers has some kind of other lock on it ? When WiFi is tunred on I can surf no issue. I went to the Market Place and the Network Setup App is not there. Could be Rogers has a profile setup on the phone and that cannot be changed?
I have a Lumia 710 as well and that is on Mobilicity with no issue other than standard unlock. I think the bands are right on the box (I took a pic and posted) but seems there is some other kind of lock.
PS: the 900 is a completely sealed phone... cannot pull battery. Will try a factory reset though.
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According to Nokia, the Lumia 710 doesn't even HAVE the 1700MHz frequency. So how does it work exactly?
Update: Ok, so the US page has WCDMA Band IV which is 1700 for the Lumia 710. The Lumia 900 has LTE Band 4 which is 1700. Does Wind/Mobilicity support LTE?
MrGreencastle said:
Where did you pay for the unlock code, exactly? I'm skeptical about most places. Thanks!
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I bought it here....
http://www.remotecellunlock.com
Have used them before as well and they were quick.
JMackey said:
According to Nokia, the Lumia 710 doesn't even HAVE the 1700MHz frequency. So how does it work exactly?
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This is why the old saying... read the label... set a better table ! lol....
this might help.....
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_710-4276.php
I've been using the Nokia Lumia 710 from Rogers for well over a month now on Mobilicity. Was hoping the Lumia 900 would work is same fashion. I'm close but I think Rogers has got it locked down more than standard lock.
okay.. here is the picture again of the label that is on the box for the Rogers Nokia Lumia 900. It clearly reads:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA/HSPA 850/900/1700/1900/2100
Starting this thread to help document the specific findings and phone behaviour along with network quirks.
So we have a base line I am on Mobilicity with their $55 unlimited everything (calls, texts, data) plan which I went for the 50% off promo and it's $27.50 a month. I just picked up the Rogers Nokia Lumia 900 last night (already have the Lumia 710 from Rogers) and was lucky enough to pay for an unlock code and receive it in 35 minutes last night as well.
Other details are that I seem to be picking up CDN Roaming as a network and the other networks diplayed are Bell and Telus (no Rogers showing network). It could be showing CDN Roaming since it a Rogers phone unlocked, but my 710 does show Mobilicity. The 900 is lacking the Nokia Network Setup app and it's no longer downloadable from the Market Place. My 710 did have the app preinstalled.
I was having some significant issues with the phone last night. Not sure if it was me, the phone or the network. I did bring it to work and had a chance to show a co-worker the phone after 5PM. I told him what was going on. He says pop in the SIM and lets' see. Well... I now get CDN Roaming all the time and had to turn on roaming to get it to that state. Bars are anywhere from 2 to 4. Also trying to make an actual call, the bars will disappear and a small "do not enter" symbol is over the greyed out bars, but the call is still connected !! I will check my Mobilicity account to see if the phone is actually roaming, or the phone is just telling me it's roaming but its actually not.
Data does work as I tried basic web surfing on the browser, but it seems quite slow. Not sure if there's any tweaking I can do. So it does work but in a quirky way. I will now continue to fiddle with it to see what I can do for improvements.
Any comments or suggestions, please write them here.....
also I'm adding a pic of the phone label to show the bands that are listed from the factory. Not sure how I can confirm if these frequency bands are correct or not.
okay, definately there is no way of connecting from home location. I either get "no service" or "Emergency Only" displayed on the phone. I also checked on the calls I was able to make earlier today with a co-worker and they were billed as roaming calls. Not looking to promising that this phone will work. Will give it another half hour but the fact that the 4 calls I made today were billed as roaming calls, is putting a damper on things.
Did you end up calling Nokia?
That would be the only real way to find out if Band 4 (1700/2100) is capable of non-LTE connection.
Also, the Nokia Network Setup app only adjusts SMS, voicemail, and data settings. I don't think it would help in this situation.
No... didn't want to call Nokia until I could confirm performance. It's definately not working correctly at home location. My Lumia 710 works perfectly. I wonder if it could be the same issue of connections that the AT&T units have? Seems AT&T and Rogers are giving account holders $100 for the trouble.
I think I am just going to return it unless somone in the forum wants to buy it from me ? I will throw in the unlock for free ! Although it seems it would only work for Bell and Telus.
PaullikesWINMO said:
No... didn't want to call Nokia until I could confirm performance. It's definately not working correctly at home location. My Lumia 710 works perfectly. I wonder if it could be the same issue of connections that the AT&T units have? Seems AT&T and Rogers are giving account holders $100 for the trouble.
I think I am just going to return it unless somone in the forum wants to buy it from me ? I will throw in the unlock for free ! Although it seems it would only work for Bell and Telus.
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It should work on the sub-operators like Fido, Koodo, etc, too.
despite what the label on the box reads, here is the official Nokia Canada website....
http://www.nokia.com/ca-en/products/phone/lumia900/specifications/
The 1700/2100 are definately LTE.
PaullikesWINMO said:
despite what the label on the box reads, here is the official Nokia Canada website....
http://www.nokia.com/ca-en/products/phone/lumia900/specifications/
The 1700/2100 are definately LTE.
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I've contacted Nokia via both email and twitter asking if LTE Band 4 is backwards compatible with W-CDMA. We shall see...
Hey bud i just got one too in black. Tried it out on wind mobile. Exact same problem. Luckily Bell/Chatr/Fido work.
I heard about this baseband modification thing. I really like this phone and hope i can get it to work on Wind. I just upgraded from the HD7... well i still use it cause wind wont work on this.
I just got off the phone with Nokia and they told me that the Lumia 900 does indeed support Band 4 with WCDMA.
So either the lady I talked to was wrong, or there is something else going on here.
All I know is it was not working for me.
And trust me I've have plenty of cell phones and smart phones over the years. I suffered enough with a Rogers Samsung Focus on FIDO long enough that iIwasn't putting up with any kind of non-compatibility. So yes the label says one thing and that's why I bought it, but I have to go with the specs listed on the Nokia Canada website this time around.
BTW... sold the phone on Kijiji within 4 hours !
have you try to turn off both 2G(GSM) and LTE, leave only the 3G WCDMA and see if you can manual scan out wind/mobility/tmobile on it?
And also this might be the Micro SIm issue, since offically Mobility and Wind don't have a Micro Sim, and the mini Sim cutting might not work, > just saw another post from t-mobile threadmentioned the Sim card cutter not work s on Lumia 900.
Thinking of this phone too, using N8 with both rogers and Wind works on, so really wish it supports Wind too.
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have you try to turn off both 2G(GSM) and LTE, leave only the 3G WCDMA and see if you can manual scan out wind/mobility/tmobile on it?
And also this might be the Micro SIm issue, since offically Mobility and Wind don't have a Micro Sim, and the mini Sim cutting might not work, > just saw another post from t-mobile threadmentioned the Sim card cutter not work s on Lumia 900.
Thinking of this phone too, using N8 with both rogers and Wind works on, so really wish it supports Wind too.
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I sold the phone long ago so can't test anything else. Maybe once Rogers releases the update and if somone want to unlock their phone, I am willing to test with my SIM card. Yes it was a regular sim cut down to microSIM (works in my lumia 710).
This ad seems to suggest the 900 works on Mobilicity !?
http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-...-Mobilicity-Phones-SPECIAL-W0QQAdIdZ372455155
I've send them an email but I doubt they will respond.
Is there anyone out there with an unlocked Rogers Nokia Lumia that has been updated willing to let me test my Mobilicity SIM card ? Or alternatively, I'm willing to pay for an unlock code if I can do some testing with your phone. The unlock code should be $9 or less anyway. If you are in Markham/Richmond Hill area (north of Toronto) and willing to try, let me know.
I don't have Wind/Mobilicity line, but I noticed when I search for available networks on my Lumia 900 (which btw I am using on a TELUS line), neither Wind nor Mobilicity show up as available network. All it shows is Bell, Telus and Rogers.
Mobilicity on unlocked 900 - a work in progress
Hello good folks.
I've been reading XDA for awhile but stayed quiet in the background until I have something good to share.
Quick background: I've mod iphone 2G, 3G, Andriod Galaxy Nexus S, and worked on WP7 and WP 7.5 on the Lumia 800, 900 and HTC HD7. I have active Bell, Rogers and Mobilicity lines for testing.
I went through hell and back to try to get the 900 to work on Mobilicity and still with no success, yet.
Here's the snippet:
I cut my Mobilicity normal SIM chip with razor sharp hair shear to the micro sim chip size. I made sure the SIM chip board marking lined up with another Micro-sim I had;
Popped in the now downsized Mobilicity SIM into the Rogers Lumia 900;
It recognizes it as an active chip and displays the locked phone message;
I went to cellunlocker dot net to purchase the unlock code for $16;
Voila, phone is now unlocked;
Inserted in the mobilicity chip and it doesn't pick up the network automatically;
Tried switching network setting to AUTO\ 4G, reboot then 3G, reboot then Edge... nothing worked. Then tried the same series of testing with Network Selection for each network type;
Punched in dial code to access the field test area ##3282# ;
In 3G WDCMA, it shows "RRCStatus Disconnected" even though it picks up all the other settings in the WCDMA field. Crap!
Went to Mobilicity to get an official Micro-SIM designed for their 710, just in case the cutting affected the chip. No success;
Had them activate their micro sim chip. No success;
I called up Nokia support and they couldn'tr troubleshoot it. They also tried the explanation that if I unlocked the phone that they would not TS it but I said I am working for Mr Ballmer and was doing test case studies with this phone and needed it to work in unlock mode. I also indirecty worked for Rogers too on a different technology, so I could easily contacted who I needed to inside Rogers for the unlock code if need be (I would need a name though).
So the conversation continued and they directed me to go to the Nokia service center in Newmarket Ontario;
Hopped into the car and drove while I still had the official active micro-sim from mobilicity and checking it during the drive to see if it picks up any signal.
Passing north of Toronto into the Aurora area, I noticed the phone automatically picked up the CDN Roaming labelled network! I tried dialing out, failed.
I arrived at the service center, called Flextronic (213 Harry Walkers Parkway South, Newmarket, Ontario);
Long story short, the engineer did not know how to work on or troubleshoot the Nokia 900 yet. He said usually Nokia would send down their own engineer to train Flextronic on how to TS and code configure the 900. They currently only knew the 710. I asked if anything he knew from the 710 could help configure the 900 RRCStatus from disconnected to connected, says no.
Drove back south to Toronto and once I entered TO, I lost the CDN Roaming connection and it could no longer pick up any network.
Side Note:
Once the 900 was code unlocked, I was able to plug in my Bell micro-sim and it worked.
I pluged in my Rogers micro-sim and it worked too for obvious reason.
I wished we weren't stuck with the Rogers version of the OSPL. It annoys me to even see the Rogers logo when it boots up. My 800 is direct from Nokia marketing so it's never been locked and doesn't have any carrier mucking with the OS or the OSPL. Unfortunately it doesn't support the Band IV, 1700 wave.
Cheers and hope this saves you time from trying out the steps above.
Great summary !
Yes I too got CDN Roaming in the 404/Major Mackenzie area and actually was able to make calls (had money in the "my wallet" account). It actually charged out as roaming as funds were less in the account when I checked it from home.
Luckily I had limited the calls so I was down about 60 cents.
Rogers probably had the phone programed much like AT&T did so you can't use it on AWS networks. Kind of cuts the competition in half so to speak.
Wish there was a Microsoft store in Canada like they have in the USA, but not sure if the phones would be totally wide open for all networks.
Should be interesting to see what happens during Microsoft's World Partner Conference this coming July in Toronto. I understand there is about 15,000 people from around the world attending. My suspicions are Windows 8 will be launched and there will be more phones and tablets introduced that will run the platform. Should be a spectacle to see. About 7 weeks to go. Can't wait !
PaullikesWINMO said:
Great summary !
Yes I too got CDN Roaming in the 404/Major Mackenzie area and actually was able to make calls (had money in the "my wallet" account). It actually charged out as roaming as funds were less in the account when I checked it from home.
Luckily I had limited the calls so I was down about 60 cents.
Rogers probably had the phone programed much like AT&T did so you can't use it on AWS networks. Kind of cuts the competition in half so to speak.
Wish there was a Microsoft store in Canada like they have in the USA, but not sure if the phones would be totally wide open for all networks.
Should be interesting to see what happens during Microsoft's World Partner Conference this coming July in Toronto. I understand there is about 15,000 people from around the world attending. My suspicions are Windows 8 will be launched and there will be more phones and tablets introduced that will run the platform. Should be a spectacle to see. About 7 weeks to go. Can't wait !
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This model simply does not have HSPA band IV (AWS 1700/2100). The EMEA model lacks LTE, but has pentaband HSPA. You can't use the Rogers or AT&T model (which has the same hardware) on AWS only providers like Mobilicity or WIND.
let's hope a true AWS 1700/2100 model becomes available soon.
This might get slightly off topic but there is a BIG announcement coming from Microsoft on Monday. Likely it's for Microsoft Tablet, but who knows maybe it's more phones in preparation for new OS ?
alextheangel said:
have you try to turn off both 2G(GSM) and LTE, leave only the 3G WCDMA and see if you can manual scan out wind/mobility/tmobile on it?
And also this might be the Micro SIm issue, since offically Mobility and Wind don't have a Micro Sim, and the mini Sim cutting might not work, > just saw another post from t-mobile threadmentioned the Sim card cutter not work s on Lumia 900.
Thinking of this phone too, using N8 with both rogers and Wind works on, so really wish it supports Wind too.
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I had my SIM card (Rogers) from my Galaxy Note cut yesterday and it DOES work in my Nokia Lumia 900 with no issues.
Just wanted to advise...
https://negrielectronics.com/nokia-lumia-900-rogers-unlocked-black.html?utm_source=Master+Retail&utm_campaign=336584ca72-RTL_4-27_2012&utm_medium=email#.T5qwIcXko-Z
Already a thread about the 900 working on mobile. Plus that isn't newly released. Its just a Rogers version with a carrier unlock code
I think the question is, if/how well it will work on Tmobile.
harolds said:
I think the question is, if/how well it will work on Tmobile.
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Just spoke to the manager over at Negri, he says that the phone will not work on Tmobile's 3g/HSPA+ Network
EDIT: He changed his mind and said that it could and will let me try it on TMO. If it doesn't work he said I could send it back
Apply all updates first without inserting any sim card. Then once the phone has all updates try your TMO sim. It likely will not work. I tried many times to get a Rogers Nokia Lumia 900 to work with Mobilicity and it was futile. That was before the updates came out. I sold the phone well before that so don't have anything to test with.
Mobilicity works on same AWS 1700/2100 frequency that TMO has so I'm going to say it will not work. But hey.. no harm in giving it another go. Let us know how it works out. Make sure you can get your money back !
Yeah try it with the updates. The update is supposed to fix connectivity issues. I'm curious to know. I would have purchased one already to try on Tmobile but I can't until June when I'm back in the states.
It is to my understanding that unless Tmo changed in your are how it handles 3g and 4g you will be stuck with Edge. Tmo traditionally used UMTS 1700/2100. Tmo had announced that they where going to use 1900 for hspa+ (4G). If they did then you will be able to use Lumia with 4g and edge. Thats what I understand at least.
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It is to my understanding that unless Tmo changed in your are how it handles 3g and 4g you will be stuck with Edge. Tmo traditionally used UMTS 1700/2100. Tmo had announced that they where going to use 1900 for hspa+ (4G). If they did then you will be able to use Lumia with 4g and edge. Thats what I understand at least.
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According to the Rogers 900 box, it has 1700/2100 HSPA/WCDMA band on the phone plus the Rogers version is a HSPA 42 device (ATT's is only HSPA21). I will give it a try and see what happens. I have screen shots of the online chat I had that said I could get all my money refunded if it didn't work on T-mobile. I won't get it until the end of the week
If it does have hspa 1700/2100 it should work yes. But why would they sell another device? Wouldn't it be cheaper to take the one they are already selling and unlock it and sell it as is? Regardless no specs on it.
Have you received the phone yet? any news?
Sorry, I have been swamped with final exams this week. I didn't receive the phone. Actually before it got shipped, the guys over at Negri tested the phone out with a Tmobile sim card and they only got edge speeds out of it. I told them to send it to me anyways. I figure worst case senario I can still sell this thing on Ebay (unlocked ones go for around $700-750) or let my girl friend use it (she's been dying to get out of her iPhone)
I've had my Roger's 900 for a week now unlocked and can only get Edge data speeds on Tmobile. I spoke to Roger's and Tmobile and they don't understand why. I think I'm going to sell on Ebay and wait for the Tmobile 900. I've confirmed that they are training employees on the 900 so it should be soon.
davidwojo said:
I've had my Roger's 900 for a week now unlocked and can only get Edge data speeds on Tmobile. I spoke to Roger's and Tmobile and they don't understand why. I think I'm going to sell on Ebay and wait for the Tmobile 900. I've confirmed that they are training employees on the 900 so it should be soon.
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Because Tmo uses 1700/2100 and most unlocked phones do not run on that freq. Memory serves me right Rogers runs same freq as A&T so it won't be able to gt 3g, Maybe hsdpa+ IF Tmo is broadcasting it on 1900 but I doubt that.
Because it's LTE 1700/2100 not AWS 1700/2100. I wrote ths message back about a month ago. Check the Rogers Nokia Lumia 900 on Mobilicity posts.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594870
*bump* feedmylittletroll Soo have you received yours yet?
Hey guys.
So I have a Bell Note 2 that I bought in full from my carriers store and they were from the first batch shipment to western Canada.
I've been poking around looking into how they might of setup the locks on the phone and what dialer codes work to do what. I decided to pop in a Telus sim card to check on the lock status of my phone and to my surprise the thing is already Factory Unlocked!
I'm curious if this was on purpose with Bell's Note 2's or did I somehow luck out with a factory unlocked one?
When searching around I've found that NCIX.com is planning on selling Bell Note 2's in Full and they have told me they are also Factory Unlocked as well.
Anyone else with a Bell phone can tell me if theirs is unlocked as well and also anyone with a Rogers and Telus ones too. I'm curious about this as its not like a carrier to sell you phones that are not locked to their network.
Even though Canadian carriers don't do this. I feel that if you buy a phone out in full they should offer you a free unlock code just as AT&T does in the states.
If this is legit and Bell has actually decided to sell their phones no longer locked to their network when buy in full this is a big Plus in my book with them and customer service towards people that pay full price for their phones.
dbzgod said:
Hey guys.
So I have a Bell Note 2 that I bought in full from my carriers store and they were from the first batch shipment to western Canada.
I've been poking around looking into how they might of setup the locks on the phone and what dialer codes work to do what. I decided to pop in a Telus sim card to check on the lock status of my phone and to my surprise the thing is already Factory Unlocked!
I'm curious if this was on purpose with Bell's Note 2's or did I somehow luck out with a factory unlocked one?
When searching around I've found that NCIX.com is planning on selling Bell Note 2's in Full and they have told me they are also Factory Unlocked as well.
Anyone else with a Bell phone can tell me if theirs is unlocked as well and also anyone with a Rogers and Telus ones too. I'm curious about this as its not like a carrier to sell you phones that are not locked to their network.
Even though Canadian carriers don't do this. I feel that if you buy a phone out in full they should offer you a free unlock code just as AT&T does in the states.
If this is legit and Bell has actually decided to sell their phones no longer locked to their network when buy in full this is a big Plus in my book with them and customer service towards people that pay full price for their phones.
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Interesting, I`d like to test my Bell unit now but I don`t have another carriers Micro SIM to test.
dbzgod said:
Hey guys.
So I have a Bell Note 2 that I bought in full from my carriers store and they were from the first batch shipment to western Canada.
I've been poking around looking into how they might of setup the locks on the phone and what dialer codes work to do what. I decided to pop in a Telus sim card to check on the lock status of my phone and to my surprise the thing is already Factory Unlocked!
I'm curious if this was on purpose with Bell's Note 2's or did I somehow luck out with a factory unlocked one?
When searching around I've found that NCIX.com is planning on selling Bell Note 2's in Full and they have told me they are also Factory Unlocked as well.
Anyone else with a Bell phone can tell me if theirs is unlocked as well and also anyone with a Rogers and Telus ones too. I'm curious about this as its not like a carrier to sell you phones that are not locked to their network.
Even though Canadian carriers don't do this. I feel that if you buy a phone out in full they should offer you a free unlock code just as AT&T does in the states.
If this is legit and Bell has actually decided to sell their phones no longer locked to their network when buy in full this is a big Plus in my book with them and customer service towards people that pay full price for their phones.
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I should've checked mine before unlocking (USB service) it this afternoon.
My rogers note 2 was unlocked as well from what I have been told this was an oversight with the first batch. Not gonna complain though
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my rogers one has sim lock
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Does anyone know of an easy way to check and see if your phone is unlocked. ( I don't have a foreign SIM to use to check). Is there a dial pad code you can type to see? My Note 2 box does not have any indication on it that says it is for Roger so I am wondering if it came unlocked? For my S3 I can type *#7465625# and it will tell me the lock status but it won't work on the Note 2.
To the original poster, my rogers phone was locked when trying a Tmobile Sim.
Could be that Telus and Bell using same network so might work.
Same is true between rogers Fido
Canadoc said:
To the original poster, my rogers phone was locked when trying a Tmobile Sim.
Could be that Telus and Bell using same network so might work.
Same is true between rogers Fido
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No, they do NOT use the same network, they only share towers. Each have their own MNC's. Telus/ Koodo share a network, Bell/Virgin share a network. Also check post 4, Rogers user with an unlocked unit.
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Sword Fish said:
Does anyone know of an easy way to check and see if your phone is unlocked. ( I don't have a foreign SIM to use to check). Is there a dial pad code you can type to see? My Note 2 box does not have any indication on it that says it is for Roger so I am wondering if it came unlocked? For my S3 I can type *#7465625# and it will tell me the lock status but it won't work on the Note 2.
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I was hoping those codes to check on the lock status were going to work too, seeing as how the NA Note II is running the same Exynos Processor as the international one and built the same. But it appears that since we are using the Qualcomm modem for our LTE support they have once again modified what codes work for our custom NA models :/
Looks like the only way to check on the lock status is by just inserting a Micro Sim from another carrier.
Anyone with a Telus Note II that has theirs factory unlocked as well? still curious about this.
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My rogers note 2 was unlocked as well from what I have been told this was an oversight with the first batch. Not gonna complain though
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No, they do NOT use the same network, they only share towers. Each have their own MNC's. Telus/ Koodo share a network, Bell/Virgin share a network. Also check post 4, Rogers user with an unlocked unit.
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I stand somewhat corrected but Virgin/Bell
Rogers/Fido have often worked despite being locked because they operate on same network. thought maybe since Telus shares infrastructure for 3g with Bell that maybe that would explain it too.
I got one of first batch of Rogers and it certainly was locked
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I stand somewhat corrected but Virgin/Bell
Rogers/Fido have often worked despite being locked because they operate on same network. thought maybe since Telus shares infrastructure for 3g with Bell that maybe that would explain it too.
I got one of first batch of Rogers and it certainly was locked
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Ya doesnt really seem to be a patterm to it, just some lucked out. Some didnt.
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Sword Fish said:
Does anyone know of an easy way to check and see if your phone is unlocked. ( I don't have a foreign SIM to use to check). Is there a dial pad code you can type to see? My Note 2 box does not have any indication on it that says it is for Roger so I am wondering if it came unlocked? For my S3 I can type *#7465625# and it will tell me the lock status but it won't work on the Note 2.
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Yeah I agree with you. I'd like to find a way to check the lock status as well as i don't have another micro sim card either and that code doesnt work for me.)
Anyone else?
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Would like to know as well. Just got my Note 2 but I travel a lol. FYI if you travel a lot, look into a company called roam for US sim.
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Darn it, just paid $24.99 before checking!
No working code for the Canadian Note 2? I'm really considering picking up one from TELUS, but I would want/need to unlock it for all of my US work travel.
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Would like to know as well. Just got my Note 2 but I travel a lol. FYI if you travel a lot, look into a company called roam for US sim.
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Looked them up. I think T-Mobile prepaid is still a better deal. $3/day for unlimited everything, and the first 200 MB/day at 4G (42 Mbps HSPA+) but still unlimited after that only at 2G speeds. Roam would be $4.95 for similar service (not unlimited data either, only 100 MB per day). The only bonus is if you SMS back to Canada a lot, as that seems free/included. Looking at their coverage map, it looks identical to T-Mobile, and given the max of 42 Mbps, I'd wager they are really just an MVNO on top of T-Mo to begin with. Personal preference, but I think you might as well go right to T-Mo instead.
I picked up a Bell Note II on a hardware upgrade in Vancouver on Monday. All Bell stores were sold out of the first batch but I managed to get one from The Source. Mine was definitely locked, both a British and Spanish SIM I use for travel gave an unauthorized SIM message. Bought an unlock code last night and now all is good.
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No working code for the Canadian Note 2? I'm really considering picking up one from TELUS, but I would want/need to unlock it for all of my US work travel.
Looked them up. I think T-Mobile prepaid is still a better deal. $3/day for unlimited everything, and the first 200 MB/day at 4G (42 Mbps HSPA+) but still unlimited after that only at 2G speeds. Roam would be $4.95 for similar service (not unlimited data either, only 100 MB per day). The only bonus is if you SMS back to Canada a lot, as that seems free/included. Looking at their coverage map, it looks identical to T-Mobile, and given the max of 42 Mbps, I'd wager they are really just an MVNO on top of T-Mo to begin with. Personal preference, but I think you might as well go right to T-Mo instead.
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I did unlock my phone with an unlock code from 1 of the online providers. So that Avenue does work for unlocking it. I was recently in Florida using a T mobile sim card on the prepaid. A word of warning the thing will work on edge data speeds but does not work on the 4g network there. There are very few 4g cell towers on the T Mobile network in the US that are compatible with Rogers phones. They work on a different frequency. The LTE bands would work in theory, however they have not yet been activated on the T Mobile network in the US.
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I know this is in the FAQ but I am in need of some clarification. I intend to buy an unlocked international Note 3 (Negri, Amazon, etc.) and would like to know which model(s) (N9005/N900W8) will work best if I just swap out SIM cards from a previous T-mobile device to work on T-Mobile's networks.
Sm900 T (T mobiles version) is the only one that will get lte as for the n9000 if you live in a refarmed area you will beable to get 3g. If you dont live in a refarmed area youll only get edge
Yeah. You're probably better off getting the 900t.
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Okay so I went ahead and ordered the unlocked N900T from Negri Electronics and the order is currently being processed but with one major warning. They have warned me about the device possibly being black listed via IMEI on T-mobile's own networks. Is there a legitimate cause for concern here that my device will be blacked out, or should I be fine?
The only reason I could see that a carrier would black list a device is if it is reported stolen or misused/abused on the carrier's network.
That is very interesting for Negri to do that. Is Negri implying they source their phones from a shady source? You're better off buying a 900t from T-Mobile directly and spending ~$3 using chain fires region unlock app to sim unlock your phone.
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