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I'm seeing very erratic speeds in Manhattan with my new SGS II, but generally I'm in the 2-3 mbps down, 1 mbps up range anywhere I'm inside. Sometimes it is the same outside as well, but occasionally that will spike up to ~16mpbs down outside.
Any other NYC users having similar issues?
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Since when is 2-3Mbps slow? Really?
Try Sprint 3G/4G or Verizon 3G or AT&T "4G". 100-900Kbps is the norm on Sprint, Verizon and AT&T except AT&T has higher bursts. Verizon LTE is quick but it's already slowed down below 10Mbps here and coverage is not everywhere
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Since when is 2-3Mbps slow? Really?
Try Sprint 3G/4G or Verizon 3G or AT&T "4G". 100-900Kbps is the norm on Sprint, Verizon and AT&T except AT&T has higher bursts. Verizon LTE is quick but it's already slowed down below 10Mbps here and coverage is not everywhere
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Since it's advertised as HSPA+ 42mbps. Yes, really.
mbernusg said:
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How come? Is this sim defective somehow?
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Since it's advertised as HSPA+ 42mbps. Yes, really.
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No - you're not going to get close to a theoretical max speed. Sorry to break the news to you, but this is Wireless - there are no guarantees.
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No - you're not going to get close to a theoretical max speed. Sorry to break the news to you, but this is Wireless - there are no guarantees.
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Obviously I'm not expecting the 42mbps. But they made a big deal about this being the first DC-HSPA+ phone -- it is, in fact, why this phone doesn't have exynos. Sorry to break it to you, but 2-3 mbps is very slow even for HSPA+ 21mbps. This is slower than Sprint's ****ty wimax.
If you're content with 2-3 mpbs, great, I'm happy for you.
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Obviously I'm not expecting the 42mbps. But they made a big deal about this being the first DC-HSPA+ phone -- it is, in fact, why this phone doesn't have exynos. Sorry to break it to you, but 2-3 mbps is very slow even for HSPA+ 21mbps. This is slower than Sprint's ****ty wimax.
If you're content with 2-3 mpbs, great, I'm happy for you.
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It's not slower than WiMAX here, and if you are seeing a variance in speed it's obvious that you are bouncing between two different cell towers with two different loads or one without Dual Carrier HSPA deployed on it.
2-3Mbps for a network with 1 3G carrier which means all of the bandwidth on that sector is shared with other T-Mobile subscribers is NOT bad. 50-300Kbps/Sprint 3G speed is bad. Verizon 3G at 500-1000Kbps is mediocre but acceptable due to the low ping. 2Mbps is decent, not bad, and OK for a HSPA network.
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It's not slower than WiMAX here, and if you are seeing a variance in speed it's obvious that you are bouncing between two different cell towers with two different loads or one without Dual Carrier HSPA deployed on it.
2-3Mbps for a network with 1 3G carrier which means all of the bandwidth on that sector is shared with other T-Mobile subscribers is NOT bad. 50-300Kbps/Sprint 3G speed is bad. Verizon 3G at 500-1000Kbps is mediocre but acceptable due to the low ping. 2Mbps is decent, not bad, and OK for a HSPA network.
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I still have my Sprint Epic and this service is certainly slower than wimax.
Look, I'm not going to argue with you if you think 2mbps is just fine. I don't. What I'm interested in is whether other users in NYC are getting the same kind of speeds.
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I still have my Sprint Epic and this service is certainly slower than wimax.
Look, I'm not going to argue with you if you think 2mbps is just fine. I don't. What I'm interested in is whether other users in NYC are getting the same kind of speeds.
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This is a speedtest i ran and got the same score 3 times in bloomingdales 59th
Get a new sim bro
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This is a speedtest i ran and got the same score 3 times in bloomingdales 59th
Get a new sim bro
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I got 12mbps DL / 0.8mbps UL in Brooklyn last night. Right now I'm downtown and I have 113kbps DL / 381kbps UL.
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I got 12mbps DL / 0.8mbps UL in Brooklyn last night. Right now I'm downtown and I have 113kbps DL / 381kbps UL.
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Ouch on the downtown.
ap77 said:
I still have my Sprint Epic and this service is certainly slower than wimax.
Look, I'm not going to argue with you if you think 2mbps is just fine. I don't. What I'm interested in is whether other users in NYC are getting the same kind of speeds.
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The 2.5GHz network reaches few people. In a market where Clear actually has people using the network the speeds are much lower due to the traffic. NYC is still very much brand new with few WiMAX users, not a valid comparison. Here, it's 1Mbps all day long due to the maturity of the network and the usage
Unless they're on the same tower as you -- they're going to get different speeds, higher and even lower depending on load. Something you can't comprehend. It's not going to be 10+ everywhere. What are you desperately needing 10Mbps at home for anyway? Do you have an unlimited plan with no throttle cap you desperately want to use? I don't get it.
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The 2.5GHz network reaches few people. In a market where Clear actually has people using the network the speeds are much lower due to the traffic. NYC is still very much brand new with few WiMAX users, not a valid comparison. Here, it's 1Mbps all day long due to the maturity of the network and the usage
Unless they're on the same tower as you -- they're going to get different speeds, higher and even lower depending on load. Something you can't comprehend. It's not going to be 10+ everywhere. What are you desperately needing 10Mbps at home for anyway? Do you have an unlimited plan with no throttle cap you desperately want to use? I don't get it.
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For god's sake, will you take your concern trolling elsewhere? "Why do you even need something that fast?" Unbelievable.
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The 2.5GHz network reaches few people. In a market where Clear actually has people using the network the speeds are much lower due to the traffic. NYC is still very much brand new with few WiMAX users, not a valid comparison. Here, it's 1Mbps all day long due to the maturity of the network and the usage
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Meant to add: I don't care at all about how wimax works where you are (Vegas?). Here in NYC, I have pretty uniformly seen lower speeds on TMO than I did on wimax, sometimes substantially so. I'm curious about the speeds that others in NYC with DC-HSPA+ are generally seeing on average. Your entire contribution to this thread has been a giant non-sequitur.
This is what im getting in Delaware .....very nice
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Meant to add: I don't care at all about how wimax works where you are (Vegas?). Here in NYC, I have pretty uniformly seen lower speeds on TMO than I did on wimax, sometimes substantially so. I'm curious about the speeds that others in NYC with DC-HSPA+ are generally seeing on average. Your entire contribution to this thread has been a giant non-sequitur.
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Your babbling about how you aren't getting 16Mbps everywhere. I'm surprised you can even get a WiMAX signal that doesn't cut out all over the place. It matters because you can't comprehend network load or variances.
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Your babbling about how you aren't getting 16Mbps everywhere. I'm surprised you can even get a WiMAX signal that doesn't cut out all over the place. It matters because you can't comprehend network load or variances.
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Or never at all. I just noticed your sig -- "LTE killer." Right -- killer 2mbps. Obviously dealing with a fanboy troll here. Move along.
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Or never at all. I just noticed your sig -- "LTE killer." Right -- killer 2mbps. Obviously dealing with a fanboy troll here. Move along.
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I get 10 Mbps+ on dual cell HSPA which usually outperforms Verizon LTE in Las Vegas on a regular basis, at a much lower price with better phones to boot. Again, you don't/can't comprehend variances per tower. Grasp that first and you will understand why you don't get 16Mbps *EVERYWHERE*
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I get 10 Mbps+ on dual cell HSPA which usually outperforms Verizon LTE in Las Vegas on a regular basis, at a much lower price with better phones to boot. Again, you don't/can't comprehend variances per tower. Grasp that first and you will understand why you don't get 16Mbps *EVERYWHERE*
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Are you seriously this slow? PLEASE, PLEASE stop trolling this thread.
Again, I don't give a **** about your experience in Vegas. This thread is about NYC. Believe me, 2mbps is beyond a joke compared to VZ's LTE in NYC. And, hey, you got 20mbps+ *everywhere* with VZ LTE here. My mighty 2-3mbps DC-HSPA+ is not match.
Seriously, please just stop. You're killing value with every character in this thread.
So what sort of data speeds are people seeing on their GSM Nexus on AT&T? I know this thing has the 21mbps HSPA+ built in, but do you ever see even close to that on AT&T? (I recognize data speed varies by area. I'm in DC, and I usually saw between 3-7mbps on my Infuse)
I ask because with Google now selling the Galaxy Nexus for $399 it has become a competitive buy. I still have time left to return my Galaxy Note which is only $100 cheaper and extends my contract. I do love my LTE speeds though, since I am frequently seeing 40mbps or better speeds. Better development and true AOSP support are enough to woo me away from the Note if data speeds are decent.
Your speeds are not likely going to be any were near 40mbs or even 21mbs. The best I ever got was 12mbs on my S2 and that was at 1AM.
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So what sort of data speeds are people seeing on their GSM Nexus on AT&T? I know this thing has the 21mbps HSPA+ built in, but do you ever see even close to that on AT&T? (I recognize data speed varies by area. I'm in DC, and I usually saw between 3-7mbps on my Infuse)
I ask because with Google now selling the Galaxy Nexus for $399 it has become a competitive buy. I still have time left to return my Galaxy Note which is only $100 cheaper and extends my contract. I do love my LTE speeds though, since I am frequently seeing 40mbps or better speeds. Better development and true AOSP support are enough to woo me away from the Note if data speeds are decent.
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There are already expansive threads on this.
The speeds depend on so many factors. For a 21mbps HSPA+ radio, you can expect real-world maximum speeds to be about 60% of that. I'd say the best speeds I've seen in this thread for AT&T users is 10mbps down.
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There are already expansive threads on this.
The speeds depend on so many factors. For a 21mbps HSPA+ radio, you can expect real-world maximum speeds to be about 60% of that. I'd say the best speeds I've seen in this thread for AT&T users is 10mbps down.
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I did some searching and couldn't find tons of threads on this in general or q&a so I asked.
The speeds you stated line up about what I saw prior on my Infuse. I hope someone from the DC area can chime in.
As mentioned before lots of factors. Generally expect faster speeds at night. Atnt specific apns might help speed some. And generally don't expect speeds faster than 5mb/s. Day or night. The gnex is capable of handling anything Atnt is throwing out right now.
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Hey guys I just got my Galaxy Nexus yesterday and I've been noticing that I am not getting 4G or 4G speeds in the areas that I used to with my Galaxy S 2. Just so you know I'm on T-mobile. I haven't seen 4G or a 4G speed once. What's going on? I'm running CM9 Nightly
GS2 and galaxy nexus do not have the same HSPA radio
GS is 42mbit
GN is 21mbit
also the icon on the GSM GN is just H
Zepius said:
GS2 and galaxy nexus do not have the same HSPA radio
GS is 42mbit
GN is 21mbit
also the icon on the GSM GN is just H
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Oh dang. Well that really sucks.
GSM Nexus do not have LTE radio, you need to get the LTE Nexus, which i believe is carrier locked.
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GSM Nexus do not have LTE radio, you need to get the LTE Nexus, which i believe is carrier locked.
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T-Mobile USA doesn't have LTE, so it doesn't matter what device he gets.
OP, what are your speeds? Sounds like you're falling for some serious marketing speak. The T-Mobile branded SGSII has 42mbps HSPA+ radio compared to the 21mbps HSPA+ radio in the Galaxy Nexus. Real-world speeds will be a bit lower, that's just how it is.
Also, the Galaxy Nexus doesn't have a "4G" icon. When its connected to HSPA+ you'll see an "H" icon. It'll be connected to the exact same network. Its just an icon.
I understand that. I just though the gnex was 42mbps hspa. I'm getting 3-6 mbps real world whereas before I was getting 9-15
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Tynen said:
I understand that. I just though the gnex was 42mbps hspa. I'm getting 3-6 mbps real world whereas before I was getting 9-15
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hmm. Well that's too big of a gap to blame it on the radio. I easily post 9mbps on mine. And the blame is all on you. Its extremely well documented this device is 21mbps.
Totally. What's speed on att radio?
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Totally. What's speed on att radio?
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I don't get what you're asking...
HSPA+ (H) is being marketed as 4G on T-Mobile.
Tynen said:
Totally. What's speed on att radio?
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I get like 5-6Mbps on ATT, but that's the Max I ever get with all my phones. So its normal for ATT I say.
I am really curious about this as well. I have speed tested a GSII and a One S and seen speeds around 20mb, where I get a consistent 3.5mb in the same place with my GN.
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I am really curious about this as well. I have speed tested a GSII and a One S and seen speeds around 20mb, where I get a consistent 3.5mb in the same place with my GN.
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Okay, 20mbps on T-Mobile? Sorry, don't think that's a standard consistant speed you can reproduce. There's no way you held a SGSII and a GN next to each other, one getting 20mbps and the other getting 3.5mbps. Something is wrong there.
Realize the speeds are different, but cmon. I get 7-9mbps on my GNex + T-Mo no problem.
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Okay, 20mbps on T-Mobile? Sorry, don't think that's a standard consistant speed you can reproduce. There's no way you held a SGSII and a GN next to each other, one getting 20mbps and the other getting 3.5mbps. Something is wrong there.
Realize the speeds are different, but cmon. I get 7-9mbps on my GNex + T-Mo no problem.
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The review of the one s on tmonews shows consistent speeds of 20mbps+.
I know the One s is "42mbps" but I do sometimes wonder if they are holding non-tmobile phones down.
My sensation speeds were crap when I moved from the nexus one initially. I changed my phone on my account from unknown to the sensation and I was getting consistent 7-9mbps instantly. The sensation is only 14.4mbps.
I rarely get 9mbps with the GNex.
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Okay, 20mbps on T-Mobile? Sorry, don't think that's a standard consistant speed you can reproduce. There's no way you held a SGSII and a GN next to each other, one getting 20mbps and the other getting 3.5mbps. Something is wrong there.
Realize the speeds are different, but cmon. I get 7-9mbps on my GNex + T-Mo no problem.
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Yeah, I know there is something wrong, that's why I have been asking around. And to be honest it was the One S that was hitting 20+ consistently, the GSII hit 14-18mb while I never hit faster than 3.6. If anyone had anything helpful let me know, I have already tried two or three different radios with no noticeable difference, and I have read about some kernels having a data speed lock problem, so I tried different kernels with no noticeable difference as well. And in the end, I have never hit any higher than 3.8 download speed with my GN here in Reno and we do have the 42mb towers.
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I get over 7 Mbps easily. Phone set to unknown on my account. highest was 11 Mbps xxla2
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I always thought that as long as the tower back haul is not maxed out, a 21 Mbps and 42 Mbps phone should get identical speeds as long as you're not hitting any of the limits. So I mean if the 42 Mbps phone pulls down 15 Mbps, then the 21 Mbps phone should also pull down 15 Mbps, up till the 21 Mbps limit.
So I'd say its artificially limited by T-Mobile giving preference to their phones over unlocked phones. Or some wrong apn setting.
About a month ago my area upgraded from EDGE to HSPA+. I finally decided to play with the speedtest.net app yesterday and I was only managing download speeds of maybe 1 or 2Mb, on a good test. This is enough for casual use, I suppose, but most people (on this board at least) seem to be getting much better speeds than that. A nearby area where the State University resides also produces similar speeds on my GNex and my previous phone (AT&T Galaxy S2).
Is this normal or do I need to change something on my phone?
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About a month ago my area upgraded from EDGE to HSPA+. I finally decided to play with the speedtest.net app yesterday and I was only managing download speeds of maybe 1 or 2Mb, on a good test. This is enough for casual use, I suppose, but most people (on this board at least) seem to be getting much better speeds than that. A nearby area where the State University resides also produces similar speeds on my GNex and my previous phone (AT&T Galaxy S2).
Is this normal or do I need to change something on my phone?
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1-3mbps is pretty normal for me indoors with 2-3 bars of signal, with 4-5 or so outdoors with better signal. I can only pull down those crazy numbers of 10+ with HSPA+ late at night when the towers aren't as busy. I'm in a small town, but we've had HSPA+ for a good year or more now (heck, I was on Verizon when it was switched on, so I don't know exactly how long...). Maybe your network is still getting upgraded / installed and the process isn't done yet?
I'm on the T-mobile $30 plan, by the way. I've heard AT&T's HSPA+ can be significantly slower in some places, so that may be part of it?
if they just rolled out the towers a month ago and upgraded to HSPA+, I'm not at all surprised by those speeds.
Att's hspa is notoriously slow compared to Tmo. I see between 6 and 18 mbps on my Tmo phones and my Att phones max out at around 6, averaging around 3.
For an area that just now got hspa turned on when the rest of the country is getting LTE, those speeds you are describing seem perfectly normal.
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I'm on T-Mobile and 1-2Mb is normal for me with 5 bars. If I'm extremely lucky I sometimes see 3Mb.
T-Mobile's "4G" in Phoenix is exactly the same speed as my 3G Vibrant.
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I'm on T-Mobile and 1-2Mb is normal for me with 5 bars. If I'm extremely lucky I sometimes see 3Mb.
T-Mobile's "4G" in Phoenix is exactly the same speed as my 3G Vibrant.
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True, location also plays a big role.
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I would be happy to get 6Mb down with AT&T in Austin. Max is about 3.1Mbps which I think is crap since we know it is capable of more. Interestingly, AT&T LTE in the same areas rock!
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Att's hspa is notoriously slow compared to Tmo. I see between 6 and 18 mbps on my Tmo phones and my Att phones max out at around 6, averaging around 3.
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Well that's also because T-Mobile has HSPA+ 42mbps deployed, and devices that can make use of it. Most AT&T devices are at best 21mbps capable, and not all of their towers are.
Depends on signal strength. On VZW LTE I can pull 20+ mbps in Seattle, but only 2-5 mbps in outlying areas.
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Depends on signal strength. On VZW LTE I can pull 20+ mbps in Seattle, but only 2-5 mbps in outlying areas.
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Well, we're talking about AT&T HSPA+ in here so...
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Well, we're talking about AT&T HSPA+ in here so...
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...so the thread title asked about 4g speeds. 4g = HSPA+ or LTE.
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...so the thread title asked about 4g speeds. 4g = HSPA+ or LTE.
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"4g" in quotes, and OP specifically is talking about AT&T.
I'll have to run speedtest some more when I'm out of town and see what kind of numbers I can get. I would be interested to see what speeds a 3G phone gets in the same region as my "4G" Gnex (HSPA+ via AT&T, not LTE via Verizon).
Dont know If anyone noticed this. I live in wash dc and 3 days ago LTE went live here. The thing is this though: I have a galaxy s3 with tmobile which supports hspa+ 42MB but not LTE and before the greatest LTE lauch here I was having like 21MB/s down and 3MB/s up on HSPA+ network. However after the LTE lauch my speeds on HSPA+ network went way down to constant 8MB/s down and 2.2MB/s up no matter what time u do the test no matter what server u use. I just hope this is not just another Tmobile trick to force me to update to an LTE ready device to be able to access higher speeds after I just got the not LTE ready galaxy s3. Can anyone in an LTE area confirm this?
My speeds are a little slower
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It all depends on spectrum licenses in your area. Where T-Mobile has to refarm their spectrum for LTE it will cut HSPA down to 21mbps.
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Well now that sucks. So my speeds go down when they turn on LTE? How lovely...
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I think the problem is stemming from excess bandwidth consumption by those markets that have LTE and people with Note IIs ready to use it. The backhaul needs to be increased. Just like what happened when they launched UMTS... Give it some time. Or go get an LTE phone.
I live in KC and have not experienced any drop. My market and towers were confirmed by tmo to be running both.
The issue really is how good your PCS (1900) coverage is... The refarming will slide the AWS HSPA to 1900 to make room for LTE. This will cause problems in markets that don't have full PCS licenses or decent PCS coverage. And obviously indoor speeds will be slower when on PCS due to building penetration.
I also remember reading that part of the reason T-Mobile's HSPA+ was so fast was the fact that it uses one frequency for upload and the other for download, whereas PCS just uses one frequency for both. So I guess we will be as average as the rest now?
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Same for LV. I have not noticed any major drop in data speed.