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EVO vs TB 4g speeds wtf?

In the Seattle area the best I get is around under 8m up 1m down average around 3-4m down. how come the Thunderbolt speeds are ridiculously faster?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996183&highlight=speed 30m+ uploads wtf?

Different wireless technologies?

madflasher said:
In the Seattle area the best I get is around under 8m up 1m down average around 3-4m down. how come the Thunderbolt speeds are ridiculously faster?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996183&highlight=speed
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Nothing about the thunderbolt's 4g and the Evo's 4g are the same, except for the name. Two completely different technologies. The Evo uses Sprint/Clear's Wimax system, only capable of so much. The thunderbolt uses LTE, which is a completely different ball game. That's why you see all these thread's around talking about if Sprint is going to make the switch to LTE.

Does anyone know if sprint plans on stepping it up?
Went to the Vz store to try the TB thought I was on wifi. Checked. It was 4g. Makes wimax look like **** lol... Like EVO2, IF Vz gets a TB2.. Bye bye sprint.
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I've read of rumors that Sprint, even though they own the controlling share of Clearwire, have already started test LTE on there towers. Technically Sprint already own the frequency range that LTE falls in so it would be a matter of them just setting up the network. It would still be 2012 -> 2013 before it would roll out but if they want to stay in this wireless game then they will have to move to LTE.

Those upload speeds for the thunderbolt aren't accurate btw. Its a known issue with the phone. But yea, LTE is better than Wimax.

madflasher said:
In the Seattle area the best I get is around under 8m up 1m down average around 3-4m down. how come the Thunderbolt speeds are ridiculously faster?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996183&highlight=speed 30m+ uploads wtf?
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Also remember, VZW's LTE has like 2 users in Seattle.
Part of it is technology, yes, but the other part is that there's probably virtually no traffic on their LTE spectrum right now.

TonyArmstrong said:
Also remember, VZW's LTE has like 2 users in Seattle.
Part of it is technology, yes, but the other part is that there's probably virtually no traffic on their LTE spectrum right now.
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+1, since almost everyone who doesn't own an iPhart in seattle owns an evo, sprints wimax lags due to the heavy volume. Try your 4g late at night, it is notably faster.
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Also, it's interesting to note that maximum data-rate with WiMAX is actually (in theory) 20-30% faster than LTE.
The question is one of load per cell, and implementation. VZW says that their "loaded" LTE net will support 5-12Mbps depending on distance from the tower.
One has to wonder, if Clear hadn't spent money on trying to build a retail presence instead of doing more tower build out and optimizing its network for backhaul and QOS to handsets and dongles, what would our WiMAX 4G speeds be like...

T-Mobile 42Mbps?? Yeah right.

Is anyone pulling higher speeds then 700Kb a second on T-mobile's network? I am in Jacksonville, FL where apparently T-Mobile has recently upgraded the network to 42Mbps. I know that the G2 does not support that top speed, but I figure I should be getting better than 5Mbps when they are advertising 42Mbps.

G1ForFun said:
Is anyone pulling higher speeds then 700Kb a second on T-mobile's network? I am in Jacksonville, FL where apparently T-Mobile has recently upgraded the network to 42Mbps. I know that the G2 does not support that top speed, but I figure I should be getting better than 5Mbps when they are advertising 42Mbps.
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Its all BS, look @ the G2x the highest anyone got was 12mbps and its a 21mbps device as tmo advertised it. And those are the speeds we should be getting on the G2, not even 12 we should be getting even 10mbps, and the highest I've gotten was 9 and was just once in tampa florida, in NY the highest was 8
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androidfeen809 said:
Its all BS, look @ the G2x the highest anyone got was 12mbps and its a 21mbps device as tmo advertised it. And those are the speeds we should be getting on the G2, not even 12 we should be getting even 10mbps, and the highest I've gotten was 9 and was just once in tampa florida, in NY the highest was 8
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Thanks....its good to know I am not the only one.
If its to good to be true then it probably is.

You're getting better speeds than I am. I normally get around 2-3 or 4 Mbps here in socal. A few weeks ago I was getting speeds of 5-8 Mbps before they turned on the 42Mbps. And I'm on the new Tmo radio too.

Are you guys seriously complaining about something like this. Do you get on your internet service provider because they say you have 20mbs which I can almost guarantee you clock no where near that on a regular basis? The speeds advertised are all theoretical. Basically in the perfect conditions with no other traffic on the network you could attain the advertised speed. Our phones are actually not capable of the new speeds. They are only capable of the original hspa+ speeds that are advertised as 21mbs and lower. The new devices that they have for mifi and what not are the only ones that can use the new 42mbs. Go to any other carrier and you will find the same result. Its called marketing (4g anyone) and it will be around longer then you and I.

carsenj said:
Are you guys seriously complaining about something like this. Do you get on your internet service provider because they say you have 20mbs which I can almost guarantee you clock no where near that on a regular basis? The speeds advertised are all theoretical. Basically in the perfect conditions with no other traffic on the network you could attain the advertised speed. Our phones are actually not capable of the new speeds. They are only capable of the original hspa+ speeds that are advertised as 21mbs and lower. The new devices that they have for mifi and what not are the only ones that can use the new 42mbs. Go to any other carrier and you will find the same result. Its called marketing (4g anyone) and it will be around longer then you and I.
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I see nothing wrong with this thread. I'm not even close to what the G2 should be capable of.
Average down for me here in Sac, CA is 3.9 Mbps.

carsenj said:
Are you guys seriously complaining about something like this. Do you get on your internet service provider because they say you have 20mbs which I can almost guarantee you clock no where near that on a regular basis? The speeds advertised are all theoretical. Basically in the perfect conditions with no other traffic on the network you could attain the advertised speed. Our phones are actually not capable of the new speeds. They are only capable of the original hspa+ speeds that are advertised as 21mbs and lower. The new devices that they have for mifi and what not are the only ones that can use the new 42mbs. Go to any other carrier and you will find the same result. Its called marketing (4g anyone) and it will be around longer then you and I.
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To me, it's not complaining, but more observing. Especially when, my case I was getting better speeds a few weeks ago compared to now. I understand that more people on the network means more draw and therefore lower speeds. However, one would assume that if a carrier comes out with better service/speeds that older devices would benefit, even though they obviously aren't built for it. I think what's happening here is the same that's been going on, at least with T-Mobile, for the last few years: They come out with higher speeds and the new stuff can take advantage until they get a heavier load and then it suffers until they update the back-haul.
Besides, even though XDA is a technology forum site, it's the General and Q&A subforums like this that make it so people are allowed to have a conversation like this, of which I'm grateful. It could get pretty boring just being limited to just talking about ROMs.

uhh?
if this thread is cause of LATELY my G2 Speeds just got LOW AS HEK,than I'm in them 'Complaints".
for some reason out of nowhere, my speeds have gotten super low...like EDGE speeds. I have 4g icon/H icon and it still running like its on edge.
Market apps downloads takes up to 30 minutes to finish and it only works good on wi-fi.
I've changed my ROMS,KERNELS, & Radios and still LOW SPEEDS.
This has bin goin' on for about..a week and a half now..
anyone else experiencing massive low speeds?
Thanks.

What is the new tmobile radio?
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I pull between 6Mbps and 10Mbps. Just ran test and it was 9.38 down and 1.3 up
Oh and the "upgraded speeds" are only available in 55 markets...not every state in the union
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T-mobile 3G speed is sloooooooow.
But I have no choice and have to keep using it cause I have one of those very old low price family plan that are no longer offered to new customer.

Spastic909 said:
I pull between 6Mbps and 10Mbps. Just ran test and it was 9.38 down and 1.3 up
Oh and the "upgraded speeds" are only available in 55 markets...not every state in the union
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I get these speeds as well, all over Dallas. It's great!

Not again..
Fellas those speeds are only supported by the tmobile rocket right now.. As advertised.. Not any android device or cellphone.
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misbehave said:
T-mobile 3G speed is sloooooooow.
But I have no choice and have to keep using it cause I have one of those very old low price family plan that are no longer offered to new customer.
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I don't think you should be locked on 3g....did you try switching radios or wiping the efs?
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Lol you all should be lucky. I'm just outside the 3g/4g area (Kansas city/olathe/lawrence) so I'm stuck on the beautiful EDGE in Leavenworth. Soooooooooo slooooooooow
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I'm getting 2mb/1.4mb in the Anaheim, CA area, close to disneyland (i'm on vacation) and I currently have about 5.5GBs transferred for the month.
I will update again when I get home in a few days. (Portland, OR) I have been getting about 9mb/5mb there on a regular basis.
And for those of you who are having really slow 4G speeds, you might be getting throttled by tmobile for too much data usage.

Sprint's LTE to pull even faster speeds than VZW's network.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432756

Keep in mind that that is with a completely unloaded tower...
Sprint only has 10 mhz of spare spectrum in the PCS band, so before Clearwire or Lightsquared (if it gets FCC approval) roll out LTE, or Sprint decommissions the iDEN network, everyone will be using this small slice of spectrum. That means that each cell will be limited to a maximum of 40-60 mbps for all users to share.
Verizon uses at least 20 mhz of spectrum in all of its LTE coverage areas, so I don't think it's likely that Sprint's LTE will be able to outperform VZW's in its first year.

I love the "(At Least For Now)" nonsense.
I think I'll unfollow "android police" now.
Never see anyone make these type of comments directed at At&t or Verizon.
The fact is, even at their absolute best, Verizon and At&t LTE speeds were not even this fast.
However, I couldn't care less about having these speeds on a phone.
Anything above 10mbps is 'nice sounding' but honestly useless.
Keep it unlimited.

I don't know about you guys, but speeds like that are completely unnecessary. The speeds I get on 4g now is more than enough for everything I need, I'd rather have unlimited internet which I can use without worry, rather than have to deal with overages and etc.
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JSarella said:
I don't know about you guys, but speeds like that are completely unnecessary. The speeds I get on 4g now is more than enough for everything I need, I'd rather have unlimited internet which I can use without worry, rather than have to deal with overages and etc.
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I AGREE...but the good thing is more bandwidth should mean less server/network traffic which is good for the end users and should mean faster overall speeds

mattykinsx said:
I love the "(At Least For Now)" nonsense.
I think I'll unfollow "android police" now.
Never see anyone make these type of comments directed at At&t or Verizon.
The fact is, even at their absolute best, Verizon and At&t LTE speeds were not even this fast.
However, I couldn't care less about having these speeds on a phone.
Anything above 10mbps is 'nice sounding' but honestly useless.
Keep it unlimited.
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Actually there are people that still get 40-50 mb download speeds on verizon even now WITH people on the network. Perhaps you should do a little more homework.

brownhornet said:
Actually there are people that still get 40-50 mb download speeds on verizon even now WITH people on the network. Perhaps you should do a little more homework.
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Lmfao.
Completely full of ****.
Never seen anyone talk about anywhere close to those speeds, even when LTE for Verizon was just released
http://www.phonearena.com/news/4G-s...e-holds-the-fort-in-smartphone-speeds_id17405

I ran a speedtest against a verizon customer inside Fry's electronics in Roseville, CA and the guy's phone hit 29mbps consistently. It doesnt sound TOO unrealistic to me.
Edit: I can't remember if he was using a thunderbolt or bionic at the time but regardless he destroyed me lol
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Didn't have all the WooHoo commentary, but did show 50mbps on Verizon LTE using Pantech USB modem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5AGEj7ftK4&feature=related

sfhub said:
Didn't have all the WooHoo commentary, but did show 50mbps on Verizon LTE using Pantech USB modem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5AGEj7ftK4&feature=related
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Dedicated modem versus a phone. Does show the potential versus the usual reality though. Kinda makes me hope I move to NC. Verizon LTE coverage in the middle of no where I should be getting all the bandwidth
I heard from a friend his RAZR was netting 20/15 at best which beats the hell out of the 1.4 upload im getting now which would be the only complaint. Seems like the average users upload is a bit slower around 2-5 but still an improvement.

Overstew said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432756
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Did you just link to a forum thread, in a new thread, when both threads are in the same forum?

DonutGrunt said:
Did you just link to a forum thread, in a new thread, when both threads are in the same forum?
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There was a thread on it already, so I edited the OP. I was hoping this thread would die. lol

Ok...apparently no one here has read about how sprint is going to use a multi-switching system on all they're towers. Which means, its going to free up a lot more spectrum and allow for much more capacity. On top of it, when sprint completely converts to lte network, even more spectrum is going to be available. That's why a lot of these carriers are going or have gone lte. (Long term evolution). Instead of sprint running at 1900mhz , they will run lte at 700mhz.
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androidmaster1 said:
Ok...apparently no one here has read about how sprint is going to use a multi-switching system on all they're towers. Which means, its going to free up a lot more spectrum and allow for much more capacity. On top of it, when sprint completely converts to lte network, even more spectrum is going to be available. That's why a lot of these carriers are going or have gone lte. (Long term evolution). Instead of sprint running at 1900mhz , they will run lte at 700mhz.
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Why would anyone read?
Its Sprint, everything they do is wrong and a lie.

I can survive with 4-5 Mbps. What I need is unlimited data with no throttling, including when I use wifi tether.

Jayavarman said:
I can survive with 4-5 Mbps. What I need is unlimited data with no throttling, including when I use wifi tether.
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+1
I have a thunderbolt, its data connection is extremely fast, but I use my phones consistently throughout the day, and this means that I hit the 2GB limit within 3 weeks.
This is just regular use, If I were to steam on spotify, or last.fm or anything else, I'd be screwed within a week or two.

RainMotorsports said:
Dedicated modem versus a phone. Does show the potential versus the usual reality though. Kinda makes me hope I move to NC. Verizon LTE coverage in the middle of no where I should be getting all the bandwidth
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The Sprint "test" was said to be dedicated Huawei modem also so it is one-to-one comparison.
BTW the Verizon test was supposedly done in *NYC*, not NC.

androidmaster1 said:
Ok...apparently no one here has read about how sprint is going to use a multi-switching system on all they're towers. Which means, its going to free up a lot more spectrum and allow for much more capacity. On top of it, when sprint completely converts to lte network, even more spectrum is going to be available. That's why a lot of these carriers are going or have gone lte. (Long term evolution). Instead of sprint running at 1900mhz , they will run lte at 700mhz.
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Can you post a link?
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Okay....how long have I been saying this now? Seriously wise up people and start listening to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn0Drfu7QYM

For the many of you that don't understand/don't "believe" in network vision...

For the many of you that don't understand/don't "believe" in network vision...
Android police posted this article which is actually pretty informative.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ce-but-the-800mhz-rollout-will-drop-your-jaw/

mattykinsx said:
Android police posted this article which is actually pretty informative.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ce-but-the-800mhz-rollout-will-drop-your-jaw/
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...I understand the underlying concepts and already knew that's what the 800mHz band was capable of....but...to see it laid out like that--even as overly optimistic as internal corporate presentation slides likely are--holy ****.
Thanks for the post...I gotta admit, my jaw dropped as well.

daneurysm said:
...I understand the underlying concepts and already knew that's what the 800mHz band was capable of....but...to see it laid out like that--even as overly optimistic as internal corporate presentation slides likely are--holy ****.
Thanks for the post...I gotta admit, my jaw dropped as well.
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I've talked to Sprint technicians that are working on the project and they truly believe this will bring them inline with, or better than, the big two.
And that seems very likely.
Lets just hope they keep unlimited data and don't turn into At&t and Verizon.

I've had Sprint for able 6 years, my family has had it for I wanna say 15+, they've had their ups and downs but I believe it's a stable cell phone provider. I can't ever picture myself without it loving my speeds, loving my service (I currently live in the country AND getting 4G) I'll always be a loyal sprint customer and this link you posted makes me happy haha

Anyone have the link to check and see if you have tower updates in your area in the past 6 months or scheduled?

Oh wow...I knew Network Vision was supposed to give them a boost but I didn't think it'd be this much of a boost.

cds0699 said:
Anyone have the link to check and see if you have tower updates in your area in the past 6 months or scheduled?
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network.sprint.com
It burns when I tapatalk...

Still impresses me every time I see it, thanks for the reminder of what's to come.
It burns when I tapatalk...

I've learned over the years to believe it when it is done rather than believe the powerpoint.
There are always caveats like, coverage is factoring in 800MHz, but some phones aren't FCC certified to work at 800MHz even though they might be otherwise capable (Photon comes to mind)
Are they running both the 1xAdvanced voice and EVDO carrier at 800 in every market on just the voice carrier or only augmented 800 in select markets? If some markets only get LTE on 800, then that won't help our phones out.
Conceptually Network Vision is the right thing to do, but there can be a significant difference between the design and implementation. The latter is where they usually see the unanticipated issues.
So yeah, it looks good on paper, let's see it in action.

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Thank you very much.

Hopefully Sprint does not have too much trouble raising the additional $3 billion needed to complete Network Vision.

I just went on an ADD fueled wikipedia/internet spree because I realized as I was reading that article that I knew nothing about sprints actual network or network at all. I had to keep looking up each term, staring further down Sprint's rabbit hole. I found a lot of interesting information but what really stunned me was that WiMax 4G network runs at 2.5Ghz. By comparison, Verizon's LTE network, which technically by definition is not a true 4G network, runs at 700Mhz.
I cannot wait for this upgrade to come to my area soon enough.

My area:
Past 6 months: 3 data speed upgrades
Planned: 4 data capacity upgrades
Nice!

doesn't Verizon use a 700mhz wavelength for lte which would make better
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Well i just speed tested both a sprint EvDo revA and roamed on versizons EvDo rev0.... Guess what. I got 1.2mb/sec on sprint ( its 3am here so ones on the towers) on verizon i got 1.9mb/sec.... Wtf!?!? I though EvDo revA was way faster than Rev0!? Yet rev0 its litterally 80% faster! Please, some one explain this to me. Please, this is actually a serious queztion
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bluefire808 said:
Well i just speed tested both a sprint EvDo revA and roamed on versizons EvDo rev0.... Guess what. I got 1.2mb/sec on sprint ( its 3am here so ones on the towers) on verizon i got 1.9mb/sec.... Wtf!?!? I though EvDo revA was way faster than Rev0!? Yet rev0 its litterally 80% faster! Please, some one explain this to me. Please, this is actually a serious queztion
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Rev0 vs RevA is just the air interface. If you connect a fast air connection to a slow backhaul then the lowest common denominator is the backhaul and that will limit your speeds. If there are too many people on the tower sharing the limited bandwidth, that will limit your speeds too.
If you connect a 802.11n wireless router to a 56k modem, what would you expect your Internet speeds to be? That is analogous to what is happening with Sprint, though the backhauls are more capable (and also shared amongst more people)
Assuming you are sure the Verizon connection was Rev 0, it is theoretically capable of 2.45Mbps while Rev A is theoretically capable of 3.1Mbps. Drop around 18-20% for actual use and you get the real-world #s.
So a fast Rev0 could easily beat a rate limited RevA on the download side.
Now the upload side, RevA beats Rev0 by more than an order of magnitude. .15M vs 1.8M theoretical. I'd be surprised if a Rev0 uplink beat a RevA uplink, but if the towers are overloaded enough, anything can happen.

sfhub said:
Rev0 vs RevA is just the air interface. If you connect a fast air connection to a slow backhaul then the lowest common denominator is the backhaul and that will limit your speeds. If there are too many people on the tower sharing the limited bandwidth, that will limit your speeds too.
If you connect a 802.11n wireless router to a 56k modem, what would you expect your Internet speeds to be? That is analogous to what is happening with Sprint, though the backhauls are more capable (and also shared amongst more people)
Assuming you are sure the Verizon connection was Rev 0, it is theoretically capable of 2.45Mbps while Rev A is theoretically capable of 3.1Mbps. Drop around 18-20% for actual use and you get the real-world #s.
So a fast Rev0 could easily beat a rate limited RevA on the download side.
Now the upload side, RevA beats Rev0 by more than an order of magnitude. .15M vs 1.8M theoretical. I'd be surprised if a Rev0 uplink beat a RevA uplink, but if the towers are overloaded enough, anything can happen.
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That was just the info i needes. I had also wiki'd it and saw that too. But i like your real world explanation. Yup 2Mb/sec on verizon rev0 and 1.2Mbsec on sprinta revA. Eh o well. Thanks again for getting back to me. Big props to you brother!
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iSkylla said:
I found a lot of interesting information but what really stunned me was that WiMax 4G network runs at 2.5Ghz. By comparison, Verizon's LTE network, which technically by definition is not a true 4G network, runs at 700Mhz.
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They have a wider bit of spectrum down there at 700mhz at a much lower wavelength. WiMax and LTE are pretty much just protocols. Verizon's LTE would suck on that thin slice of 2.5gHz and Sprint's WiMax would kick ass at 700mHz....roughly....and that's not taking into considering signal propagation and obstruction penetration.

My 3G speeds suck... but who cares, 4G has gone through the roof down here.
3mb/s -> 9mb/s in my living room
5mb/s -> 18mb/s in my friend's house
I'm gonna go drive all over and run speed tests now.

Orrr... they are showing the map like that because there won't be any buildings in 2013 to penetrate.
Food for thought gentleman.
PS. Jk
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Is it normal/acceptable for "4g" speeds to be less than 2 Mb?

About a month ago my area upgraded from EDGE to HSPA+. I finally decided to play with the speedtest.net app yesterday and I was only managing download speeds of maybe 1 or 2Mb, on a good test. This is enough for casual use, I suppose, but most people (on this board at least) seem to be getting much better speeds than that. A nearby area where the State University resides also produces similar speeds on my GNex and my previous phone (AT&T Galaxy S2).
Is this normal or do I need to change something on my phone?

blackplague1347 said:
About a month ago my area upgraded from EDGE to HSPA+. I finally decided to play with the speedtest.net app yesterday and I was only managing download speeds of maybe 1 or 2Mb, on a good test. This is enough for casual use, I suppose, but most people (on this board at least) seem to be getting much better speeds than that. A nearby area where the State University resides also produces similar speeds on my GNex and my previous phone (AT&T Galaxy S2).
Is this normal or do I need to change something on my phone?
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1-3mbps is pretty normal for me indoors with 2-3 bars of signal, with 4-5 or so outdoors with better signal. I can only pull down those crazy numbers of 10+ with HSPA+ late at night when the towers aren't as busy. I'm in a small town, but we've had HSPA+ for a good year or more now (heck, I was on Verizon when it was switched on, so I don't know exactly how long...). Maybe your network is still getting upgraded / installed and the process isn't done yet?
I'm on the T-mobile $30 plan, by the way. I've heard AT&T's HSPA+ can be significantly slower in some places, so that may be part of it?

if they just rolled out the towers a month ago and upgraded to HSPA+, I'm not at all surprised by those speeds.

Att's hspa is notoriously slow compared to Tmo. I see between 6 and 18 mbps on my Tmo phones and my Att phones max out at around 6, averaging around 3.
For an area that just now got hspa turned on when the rest of the country is getting LTE, those speeds you are describing seem perfectly normal.
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I'm on T-Mobile and 1-2Mb is normal for me with 5 bars. If I'm extremely lucky I sometimes see 3Mb.
T-Mobile's "4G" in Phoenix is exactly the same speed as my 3G Vibrant.

Ravynmagi said:
I'm on T-Mobile and 1-2Mb is normal for me with 5 bars. If I'm extremely lucky I sometimes see 3Mb.
T-Mobile's "4G" in Phoenix is exactly the same speed as my 3G Vibrant.
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True, location also plays a big role.
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I would be happy to get 6Mb down with AT&T in Austin. Max is about 3.1Mbps which I think is crap since we know it is capable of more. Interestingly, AT&T LTE in the same areas rock!

TJBunch1228 said:
Att's hspa is notoriously slow compared to Tmo. I see between 6 and 18 mbps on my Tmo phones and my Att phones max out at around 6, averaging around 3.
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Well that's also because T-Mobile has HSPA+ 42mbps deployed, and devices that can make use of it. Most AT&T devices are at best 21mbps capable, and not all of their towers are.

Depends on signal strength. On VZW LTE I can pull 20+ mbps in Seattle, but only 2-5 mbps in outlying areas.
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Winesnob said:
Depends on signal strength. On VZW LTE I can pull 20+ mbps in Seattle, but only 2-5 mbps in outlying areas.
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Well, we're talking about AT&T HSPA+ in here so...

martonikaj said:
Well, we're talking about AT&T HSPA+ in here so...
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...so the thread title asked about 4g speeds. 4g = HSPA+ or LTE.

Winesnob said:
...so the thread title asked about 4g speeds. 4g = HSPA+ or LTE.
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"4g" in quotes, and OP specifically is talking about AT&T.

I'll have to run speedtest some more when I'm out of town and see what kind of numbers I can get. I would be interested to see what speeds a 3G phone gets in the same region as my "4G" Gnex (HSPA+ via AT&T, not LTE via Verizon).